Glee to honor Steve Perry & Journey

[Saint John]

If Arnel's documentary ever get's out the gate it could be a Journey summer, media wise.

What's the hold up? Wasn't that supposed to be released last Christmas or am I thinking of something else?

They're probably trying to find a market for it.

Do I surprise you every now and again?

No, you're always an idiot ...

[jrnyjetster]

I say, Steve...just fucking SING for cryin' out loud and prove all us naysayers wrong!

[portland]

I say, Steve...just fucking SING for cryin' out loud and prove all us naysayers wrong!

Works for me!!! ^^^^^^

[Jubilee]

So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

[Rockindeano]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

[Don]

I think it will be one of those scenes were Steve Stops by and they tell him much they adore the music and they a do a melody of songs (I'm thinking Faithfully might not be there as Perry doesn't have a credit on that one). I don't see it being a big deal.

[Jubilee]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

'Tis true, 'tis true. Maybe it's just me, but I would think Journey would be a little tweaked that they're still out there on the road (and in the studio) keeping the music alive while the guy who's doing nothing but collecting a fat check is getting "honored". Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly watch "Glee" just to see this tribute, but, it can't help but be a little awkward. These are the things that can cause a guy to get a knot in his 'fro...I'm just sayin'.

[Don]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

'Tis true, 'tis true. Maybe it's just me, but I would think Journey would be a little tweaked that they're still out there on the road (and in the studio) keeping the music alive while the guy who's doing nothing but collecting a fat check is getting "honored". Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly watch "Glee" just to see this tribute, but, it can't help but be a little awkward. These are the things that can cause a guy to get a knot in his 'fro...I'm just sayin'.

Well, Journey could have one of its members who has co-writing credits on these songs turn around and say the show can't use them. And of course another member could turn around say don't use songs that he co-wrote on the band's DVDs or more importantly one of the member's documentary.

I don't think it will happen but unlike audio, when it comes to video presentation, copyright can be a stickler if someone would want to go down that path.

[Rockindeano]

Well, Journey could have one of its members who has co-writing credits on these songs turn around and say the show can't use them. And of course another member could turn around say don't use songs that he co-wrote on the band's DVDs or more importantly one of the member's documentary.

I don't think it will happen but unlike audio, when it comes to video presentation, copyright can be a stickler if someone would want to go down that path.

Wait a minute here. Are you saying Steve Perry can prohibit Journey from using DSB in their live shows? Or am I mistaking what you said? Also, could use of "shared written music" be negotiated by their attorney's for said usage?

[Monker]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

[Monker]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

'Tis true, 'tis true. Maybe it's just me, but I would think Journey would be a little tweaked that they're still out there on the road (and in the studio) keeping the music alive while the guy who's doing nothing but collecting a fat check is getting "honored". Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly watch "Glee" just to see this tribute, but, it can't help but be a little awkward. These are the things that can cause a guy to get a knot in his 'fro...I'm just sayin'.

Well, Journey could have one of its members who has co-writing credits on these songs turn around and say the show can't use them. And of course another member could turn around say don't use songs that he co-wrote on the band's DVDs or more importantly one of the member's documentary.

I don't think it will happen but unlike audio, when it comes to video presentation, copyright can be a stickler if someone would want to go down that path.

Unless it is a performance with Perry in the band, I doubt there is much he can do about Journey releasing video with Arnel in the band. If Glee performs their own version, I bet there isn't much Journey can do about that one either. The problem would occur if Glee wants to use the original recordings (or rerecords, yeah, sure), or if the documentary about Arnel wants to use footage of the band with Perry in it. In fact, I wonder if it is the band or Sony who has control over the orignal recordings?

But, at this point, why would either side care? It's publicity for everybody, not one 'side' or the other.

[Rockindeano]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

Agreed, but it's a double sided coin too. The only reason Neal and Jon get recognition is because perry left them with the name. I mean, who really owns the name to Journey? What if Perry wanted to stake a claim to the name? Hell, he has as much right as any of those guys to do that.

And as for Perry struggling to break away from Journey and make a name for himself, well, you are right again, but why should he have to do that? You think Neal and Jon made much headway when they broke way from "Journey?" Not really. Bad English was moderately successful at best..and IMO, Steve perry solo was more popular. Yes?

[Ehwmatt]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

Agreed, but it's a double sided coin too. The only reason Neal and Jon get recognition is because perry left them with the name. I mean, who really owns the name to Journey? What if Perry wanted to stake a claim to the name? Hell, he has as much right as any of those guys to do that.

And as for Perry struggling to break away from Journey and make a name for himself, well, you are right again, but why should he have to do that? You think Neal and Jon made much headway when they broke way from "Journey?" Not really. Bad English was moderately successful at best..and IMO, Steve perry solo was more popular. Yes?

Hm, I'd say it's about equal between BE and SP solo.

I know off the top of my head I know BE had a #1 and #5 hit in When I See You Smile and Price of Love, respectively. I think ST, released in the far more musical friendly climate of 1984 for AOR style music, had comparable success, at least single-wise. FTLOSM clocking in as a top 10 album in the extremely hostile waters of 1994 is pretty impressive, but then, BE's two efforts were 1989 and 1991 (correct me if I'm wrong), which was just about when AOR was breathing its last mainstream breaths.

It would have been a lot more interesting for comparison's sake to see what happened if BE's albums had come out earlier in the 80s, like Street Talk.

On the other hand, comparing the two as a barometer of the importance of PErry to Neal/Jon or vice versa is sorta silly apples-oranges kinda stuff since a singing voice is so much of what drives pop success, assuming the songwriting is at least competent if not good. So, comparing SP to BE begs the question: Is it SP being measured against Neal and Jon's songwriting/instrumentation, or SP being measured against John Waite? It's probably somewhere in between to be realistic, but still... end point, the comparison is really not worth troubling that much over, regardless of your allegiances.

[Don]

Well, Journey could have one of its members who has co-writing credits on these songs turn around and say the show can't use them. And of course another member could turn around say don't use songs that he co-wrote on the band's DVDs or more importantly one of the member's documentary.

I don't think it will happen but unlike audio, when it comes to video presentation, copyright can be a stickler if someone would want to go down that path.

Wait a minute here. Are you saying Steve Perry can prohibit Journey from using DSB in their live shows? Or am I mistaking what you said? Also, could use of "shared written music" be negotiated by their attorney's for said usage?

No I'm talking about the music being used in video media (TV shows DVDs, movies, etc,) Those type of things require the permission of the songwriters. Remember how Perry almost blocked the Sopranos usage. Jon and Neal seemed fine with it but all it takes is one guy to withhold permission. I'm pretty sure if Perry really,really wanted to be a jerk, he could block DSB from being used in Arnel's documentary, regardless if Arnel is the one singing the song. All he has to do is say the song is being used as promotion and he as a co-copyright holder, he doesn't want it be used, just like he almost did with the Sopranos. Shrek, Glee, all these shows can be barred from using the music if one writer doesn't want it done. You can't block someone from doing an audio cover of your songs, provided they don't alter the melody or lyrics and pay royalties but when it comes to using the song as video, the songwriter has a lot more rights.

If I wrote something, it doesn't matter if I am not the one singing, it's still my intellectual property. If you are going to air it on video you need my permission, it's as simple as that.

I'm not implying that these guys would ever be this petty, I'm just saying copyright is a lot more intricate than people make it out be.

[Art Vandelay]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

Agreed, but it's a double sided coin too. The only reason Neal and Jon get recognition is because perry left them with the name. I mean, who really owns the name to Journey? What if Perry wanted to stake a claim to the name? Hell, he has as much right as any of those guys to do that.

And as for Perry struggling to break away from Journey and make a name for himself, well, you are right again, but why should he have to do that? You think Neal and Jon made much headway when they broke way from "Journey?" Not really. Bad English was moderately successful at best..and IMO, Steve perry solo was more popular. Yes?

I agree 100% on this. I always felt that Neal always wanted to break away from the Journey umbrella, but never had success at it (Bad English, Hardline). He always had to go back to Journey to be recognized. It seems to me that greed also got the best of Neal. He knew that he was stuck in the band, and that new records wouldn't bring in the profit that they used to. What does he do? He takes the path of Prince and tries to tie in a CD with ticket purchases to bump up sales. Doesn't work the way that it did with Prince, so what does he do with the next CD? Ties in the Greatest Hits remake to get some attention. How else can we push it? Let's play up the "found a singer on Youtube" angle till we're blue in the face. That'll get attention of the media! How about jump onto the coattails of Ellen and Oprah? They help sell everyone's product!!!

[Michigan Girl]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

Agreed, but it's a double sided coin too. The only reason Neal and Jon get recognition is because perry left them with the name. I mean, who really owns the name to Journey? What if Perry wanted to stake a claim to the name? Hell, he has as much right as any of those guys to do that.

And as for Perry struggling to break away from Journey and make a name for himself, well, you are right again, but why should he have to do that? You think Neal and Jon made much headway when they broke way from "Journey?" Not really. Bad English was moderately successful at best..and IMO, Steve perry solo was more popular. Yes?

I agree 100% on this. I always felt that Neal always wanted to break away from the Journey umbrella, but never had success at it (Bad English, Hardline). He always had to go back to Journey to be recognized. It seems to me that greed also got the best of Neal. He knew that he was stuck in the band, and that new records wouldn't bring in the profit that they used to. What does he do? He takes the path of Prince and tries to tie in a CD with ticket purchases to bump up sales. Doesn't work the way that it did with Prince, so what does he do with the next CD? Ties in the Greatest Hits remake to get some attention. How else can we push it? Let's play up the "found a singer on Youtube" angle till we're blue in the face. That'll get attention of the media! How about jump onto the coattails of Ellen and Oprah? They help sell everyone's product!!!

Poor Neal ...

[Art Vandelay]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

Agreed, but it's a double sided coin too. The only reason Neal and Jon get recognition is because perry left them with the name. I mean, who really owns the name to Journey? What if Perry wanted to stake a claim to the name? Hell, he has as much right as any of those guys to do that.

And as for Perry struggling to break away from Journey and make a name for himself, well, you are right again, but why should he have to do that? You think Neal and Jon made much headway when they broke way from "Journey?" Not really. Bad English was moderately successful at best..and IMO, Steve perry solo was more popular. Yes?

I agree 100% on this. I always felt that Neal always wanted to break away from the Journey umbrella, but never had success at it (Bad English, Hardline). He always had to go back to Journey to be recognized. It seems to me that greed also got the best of Neal. He knew that he was stuck in the band, and that new records wouldn't bring in the profit that they used to. What does he do? He takes the path of Prince and tries to tie in a CD with ticket purchases to bump up sales. Doesn't work the way that it did with Prince, so what does he do with the next CD? Ties in the Greatest Hits remake to get some attention. How else can we push it? Let's play up the "found a singer on Youtube" angle till we're blue in the face. That'll get attention of the media! How about jump onto the coattails of Ellen and Oprah? They help sell everyone's product!!!

Poor Neal ...

Yeah. And I understand that it's business and you have to push to sell your product, and I'm sure that people are gonna bring up the flip side of Perry re-releasing his material a number of times. The Journey marketing side of things have just left a really bad taste in my mouth over the years. That's why I have no interest in the current band.

[hoagiepete]

All of the Journey family wins here. The drunks, the Narcissists, the retarded, the alternative lifestyle livers, they all benefit here.

[bluejeangirl76]

This is about the funniest thing I have heard, Journey-wise, in a long time.

"Hey, since Journey's DSB is one of the big songs we've used on our show, let's pay tribute on the season finale to... Steve Perry!"

I love it. Hilarious.

I wish I could see the look on Old Sourpuss when he hears it. Friga-what?!

[Art Vandelay]

This is about the funniest thing I have heard, Journey-wise, in a long time.

"Hey, since Journey's DSB is one of the big songs we've used on our show, let's pay tribute on the season finale to... Steve Perry!"

I love it. Hilarious.

I wish I could see the look on Old Sourpuss when he hears it. Friga-what?!

They'll be 'paying tribute' to the band, but singled out his name in the interview because he made an effort to visit the set and has given praise to the show. I doubt if his name will even be mentioned in the show, but rather they'll just sing a melody of Journey songs.

[Don]

This is about the funniest thing I have heard, Journey-wise, in a long time.

"Hey, since Journey's DSB is one of the big songs we've used on our show, let's pay tribute on the season finale to... Steve Perry!"

I love it. Hilarious.

I wish I could see the look on Old Sourpuss when he hears it. Friga-what?!

They'll be 'paying tribute' to the band, but singled out his name in the interview because he made an effort to visit the set and has given praise to the show. I doubt if his name will even be mentioned in the show, but rather they'll just sing a melody of Journey songs.

It will be a great way to kick start Journey's tour this summer.

[CatEyes]

They'll be 'paying tribute' to the band, but singled out his name in the interview because he made an effort to visit the set and has given praise to the show. I doubt if his name will even be mentioned in the show, but rather they'll just sing a melody of Journey songs.

Don't get so damn reasonable and logical - not in this crowd - they will eat you alive.

Your only defense is to be an hysterical conspiracy theorist (pref. some combination of Obama/Gore/Perry)

[annpea]

All of the Journey family wins here. The drunks, the Narcissists, the retarded, the alternative lifestyle livers, they all benefit here.

The love is always there no matter how bad the Journey family's behavior is toward each other now and again. much love to all of the Journey family members XOXOS.

[steveo777]

This is about the funniest thing I have heard, Journey-wise, in a long time.

"Hey, since Journey's DSB is one of the big songs we've used on our show, let's pay tribute on the season finale to... Steve Perry!"

I love it. Hilarious.

I wish I could see the look on Old Sourpuss when he hears it. Friga-what?!

They'll be 'paying tribute' to the band, but singled out his name in the interview because he made an effort to visit the set and has given praise to the show. I doubt if his name will even be mentioned in the show, but rather they'll just sing a melody of Journey songs.

It will be a great way to kick start Journey's tour this summer.

Neal's tour or Perry's tour? There isn't any Journey tour scheduled, unless you are getting info from Philippine radio stations that the rest of us aren't privy to. As I know it, only one of the afore mentioned is touring.

[portland]

This is about the funniest thing I have heard, Journey-wise, in a long time.

"Hey, since Journey's DSB is one of the big songs we've used on our show, let's pay tribute on the season finale to... Steve Perry!"

I love it. Hilarious.

I wish I could see the look on Old Sourpuss when he hears it. Friga-what?!

They'll be 'paying tribute' to the band, but singled out his name in the interview because he made an effort to visit the set and has given praise to the show. I doubt if his name will even be mentioned in the show, but rather they'll just sing a melody of Journey songs.

It will be a great way to kick start Journey's tour this summer.

Neal's tour or Perry's tour? There isn't any Journey tour scheduled, unless you are getting info from Philippine radio stations that the rest of us aren't privy to. As I know it, only one of the afore mentioned is touring.

Gunny you have a fish on your line ^^^^^^

[steveo777]

This is about the funniest thing I have heard, Journey-wise, in a long time.

"Hey, since Journey's DSB is one of the big songs we've used on our show, let's pay tribute on the season finale to... Steve Perry!"

I love it. Hilarious.

I wish I could see the look on Old Sourpuss when he hears it. Friga-what?!

They'll be 'paying tribute' to the band, but singled out his name in the interview because he made an effort to visit the set and has given praise to the show. I doubt if his name will even be mentioned in the show, but rather they'll just sing a melody of Journey songs.

It will be a great way to kick start Journey's tour this summer.

Neal's tour or Perry's tour? There isn't any Journey tour scheduled, unless you are getting info from Philippine radio stations that the rest of us aren't privy to. As I know it, only one of the afore mentioned is touring.

Gunny you have a fish on your line ^^^^^^

Not anymore. I see what he did there.

[Red13JoePa]

Good for Steve, he deserves a lot of credit for the resurgence of DSB.

Yep flogs it like a rented mule.

[Jana]

Good for Steve, he deserves a lot of credit for the resurgence of DSB.

Yep flogs it like a rented mule.

LOL

[Saint John]

Good for Steve, he deserves a lot of credit for the resurgence of DSB.

Yep flogs it like a rented mule.

Give him a break (No hips jokes! Ok ... maybe one. ). There's not much else to do when you can't sing.

[Monker]

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So, lemme get this straight. They're going to honor Perry with a great big ol' Journey tribute?? Haven't they heard the news? Perry no longer has anything to do with Journey. They're doing their thing, and he's doing his. Separate ways. Divorced. Stone cracked. As in it's ovah! Do they really intend to do a tribute to Journey without Journey?

Maybe they should just sing a few bars of "Oh, Sherrie" and call it good.

I see your point here. Just goes to show you how important the lead guy is. Seriously, when casual people think of Journey, they think of that guy with the awesome voice. Like I said, I see what you are saying and it would really be unfair to Schon and Cain if they weren't somehow honoured too. Perhaps they don't want to be, being that Perry will be there?

I disagree...I think it shows how Perry was never able to break away from Journey and create his own career. The only way to create a Perry tribute IS with Journey music - everything else has been forgotten.

Agreed, but it's a double sided coin too. The only reason Neal and Jon get recognition is because perry left them with the name. I mean, who really owns the name to Journey? What if Perry wanted to stake a claim to the name? Hell, he has as much right as any of those guys to do that.

And as for Perry struggling to break away from Journey and make a name for himself, well, you are right again, but why should he have to do that? You think Neal and Jon made much headway when they broke way from "Journey?" Not really. Bad English was moderately successful at best..and IMO, Steve perry solo was more popular. Yes?

I'm not arguing with any of that...Neal and Jonathan are just as tied to Journey as Perry is.

My point is, when Glee wants to make a tribute to Perry, they do it with Journey music....not Street Talk or FTLOSM. He needed Journey to have any claim to fame. So, it's not just the front guy up there singing making everybody a success. It is also the songs that he is singing. I also have no problem if you want to make this same argument using Neal or Jonathan. The only guy who was truly able to break away and become a 'success' outside of Journey was Steve Smith.