Yes We Can ! ;)

[Sarah]

I am seriously thinking of taking all my net worth, selling everything and moving to Costa Rica...I am not kidding...if I sell everything I own now I can live a VERY good life there...by some nice property...sit by the beach and get on the internet and watch the USA fall apart.

+1

OK,, that makes 2 of you now, wanting to move away from US cause of the healthcare system, to Costa Rica who already does have the healthcare system youre running away from.

No No No...its not the healthcare system...that is what you fail to see...its what trying to enact this garbage is going to do to our economy via the National Debt. I want to be somewhere that my money will have value (Buy gold and silver, the dollar won't be worth the paper it's printed on). For $500K I will be able to live like Bill Gates in Costa Rica.

AND NOTHING OF VALUE WOULD BE LOST but we all know you two won't actually go anywhere. If you would really live like bill Gates there, isn't that enough incentive to just gtfo?

[StevePerryHair]

True and I'm leaving this discussion too, pointless. And I understand what you're saying and have had the same exact insurance as you for years. Had to pay out of pocket for things for A's surgeon his first year of life, and yes it sucked. But we paid it. However, our insurance does not suck completely for what we pay. They cover all the crap you're well aware I have to have checked every 6 months after my mom's breast CA death, and they could very well tell me to pack sand if they wanted, and not cover any of it.

People aren't looking at the ENTIRE picture of what's going to happen, so I'm done. Not worth it. We have more fun things to talk about, lol.

No Melissa. I actually value your opinion here and was and still am hoping to learn something from you regarding this, no matter what side of the fence you're on. Same as Natalie. she brought up the point of frivolous lawsuits and tort reform and I agree 100% with her on that. I am sure you could shed a lot of light here for those of us not in the industry.

Please reconsider, and re-engage. I promise I'll listen to some europe today in your honour.

[conversationpc]

There truly aren't as many Dems in the US Senate as the numbers bear out. You know good god damned well the blue dogs aren't real Dems..they basically got voted in because the republicans were so fucking pathetic, and W was and is an embarrassment, that no real republican stood a chance. The blue dog dems are pubbies in Dems clothing.

Bullcrap...The ultra-leftist progressives are the ones intent on sending America down the crapper. I can agree to disagree with moderate and even liberal Democrats but these jackbooted dimwits only care about their own agenda and government owning the lives of everyone in their vicinity.

[Lula]

it is true, the whole being a woman thing was a pre existing condition-

"She was turned down because she had given birth by Caesarean section. Having the operation once increases the odds that it will be performed again, and if she became pregnant and needed another Caesarean, Golden Rule did not want to pay for it. A letter from the company explained that if she had been sterilized after the Caesarean, or if she were over 40 and had given birth two or more years before applying, she might have qualified.

"“getting beaten up by your spouse is a pre-existing condition.” The insurance industry figures that if “you are in a marriage with someone who has beaten you in the past, you’re more likely to get beaten again than the average person and are therefore more expensive to insure,” but what it really does is punish these victims for something that wasn’t their fault. "

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/17/cse ... eexisting/


nancy pelosi, with all of her faults, championed against the absurdity and has corrected this humongous wrong against women by the insurance companies.

[Melissa]

True and I'm leaving this discussion too, pointless. And I understand what you're saying and have had the same exact insurance as you for years. Had to pay out of pocket for things for A's surgeon his first year of life, and yes it sucked. But we paid it. However, our insurance does not suck completely for what we pay. They cover all the crap you're well aware I have to have checked every 6 months after my mom's breast CA death, and they could very well tell me to pack sand if they wanted, and not cover any of it.

People aren't looking at the ENTIRE picture of what's going to happen, so I'm done. Not worth it. We have more fun things to talk about, lol.

No Melissa. I actually value your opinion here and was and still am hoping to learn something from you regarding this, no matter what side of the fence you're on. Same as Natalie. she brought up the point of frivolous lawsuits and tort reform and I agree 100% with her on that. I am sure you could shed a lot of light here for those of us not in the industry.

Please reconsider, and re-engage. I promise I'll listen to some europe today in your honour.

Nah, people get too upset, and it's just not worth it, lol. Besides, being a nurse I'm just part of the "evil" system anyway, right?

You will?? Cool! Here's my favorite Europe song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yF0NLJyoxE Enjoy!

[Lula]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

[Melissa]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

[Behshad]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

[StevePerryHair]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Cake!! Typical american We love our cake!! So what I say!!!!

[Rockindeano]

There truly aren't as many Dems in the US Senate as the numbers bear out. You know good god damned well the blue dogs aren't real Dems..they basically got voted in because the republicans were so fucking pathetic, and W was and is an embarrassment, that no real republican stood a chance. The blue dog dems are pubbies in Dems clothing.

Bullcrap...The ultra-leftist progressives are the ones intent on sending America down the crapper. I can agree to disagree with moderate and even liberal Democrats but these jackbooted dimwits only care about their own agenda and government owning the lives of everyone in their vicinity.

You are a close minded moron. Re read what I wrote and tell me it's NOT fact. Blue Dog Dems come from traditional GOP areas. Due to the colossal fuck up YOUR glorious president created, the GOP wasn't going to win jack shit last year...so the Dems that DID run in those predominant GOP areas had to run as conservative Dems...and bingo, they won. They were never truly going to side with Obama on social issues, and if you can't see this, then please excuse yourself from this conversation, because you can't hang intellectually.

I never once insinuated "who" was sending the country down the crapper as you just mentioned. You're just pissed because the left got something through that you righties do not like. Tough shit. It happens to both sides. Also, it is of your opinion, that the liberal left are the ones responsible for sending this country down the shitter. So far, Obama has had more accomplished than any other president in his first twe years in office: The Stimulus which has been proven to be working although the majority of it is still yet to be revealed, and now historic sweeping health care reform. Up next, immigration reform. Gee Dave, you a sore loser? Better get used to it pal, because more is coming your way, lol. This place is much better off in this last year and a half than it was at any time in the Bush presidency. If you don't agree, you must belong to the party out of power. The left/Dems are pulling this country out of the shitter, which is exactly where you fuckers put us into.

PS- as long as you losers want to be scabs about this, then I will gladly gloat and be euphoric, you know, like good ol FF does everytime something bad happens to Obama? LOL. You claim to be a christian. I would love to know what in the fuck you have against insuring your fellow citizens. Is it the taxation Dave? Come on, what is it? Don't be a hypocrite now, answer the question.

[Melissa]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

HA! Is that chocolate inside there?? If not, then YOU eat it!

[Behshad]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

Ooo thats right,, chocolate,, my bad ,,,,

[Rockindeano]

True and I'm leaving this discussion too, pointless. And I understand what you're saying and have had the same exact insurance as you for years. Had to pay out of pocket for things for A's surgeon his first year of life, and yes it sucked. But we paid it. However, our insurance does not suck completely for what we pay. They cover all the crap you're well aware I have to have checked every 6 months after my mom's breast CA death, and they could very well tell me to pack sand if they wanted, and not cover any of it.

People aren't looking at the ENTIRE picture of what's going to happen, so I'm done. Not worth it. We have more fun things to talk about, lol.

No Melissa. I actually value your opinion here and was and still am hoping to learn something from you regarding this, no matter what side of the fence you're on. Same as Natalie. she brought up the point of frivolous lawsuits and tort reform and I agree 100% with her on that. I am sure you could shed a lot of light here for those of us not in the industry.

Please reconsider, and re-engage. I promise I'll listen to some europe today in your honour.

Nah, people get too upset, and it's just not worth it, lol. Besides, being a nurse I'm just part of the "evil" system anyway, right?

You will?? Cool! Here's my favorite Europe song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yF0NLJyoxE Enjoy!

Shut up. You know damned well I don't think doctors or nurses are evil. Evil are the insurance companies. Look, remember we went to Vegas Smelly? Remember all those 50 story high lavish hotels and casinos? Wouldn't you say they are doing pretty good for themselves? I would too. I liken them to the insurance companies. Ever see an insurance company not make tons of bank? All have giant tower buildings, the employees make huge jack, etc. That's my analogy for today. Makes sense, no?

I just rocked out to the Final Countdown. Now I know why I never listen to Europe.

[Melissa]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

Ooo thats right,, chocolate,, my bad ,,,,

[Behshad]

True and I'm leaving this discussion too, pointless. And I understand what you're saying and have had the same exact insurance as you for years. Had to pay out of pocket for things for A's surgeon his first year of life, and yes it sucked. But we paid it. However, our insurance does not suck completely for what we pay. They cover all the crap you're well aware I have to have checked every 6 months after my mom's breast CA death, and they could very well tell me to pack sand if they wanted, and not cover any of it.

People aren't looking at the ENTIRE picture of what's going to happen, so I'm done. Not worth it. We have more fun things to talk about, lol.

No Melissa. I actually value your opinion here and was and still am hoping to learn something from you regarding this, no matter what side of the fence you're on. Same as Natalie. she brought up the point of frivolous lawsuits and tort reform and I agree 100% with her on that. I am sure you could shed a lot of light here for those of us not in the industry.

Please reconsider, and re-engage. I promise I'll listen to some europe today in your honour.

Nah, people get too upset, and it's just not worth it, lol. Besides, being a nurse I'm just part of the "evil" system anyway, right?

You will?? Cool! Here's my favorite Europe song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yF0NLJyoxE Enjoy!

Shut up. You know damned well I don't think doctors or nurses are evil. Evil are the insurance companies. Look, remember we went to Vegas Smelly? Remember all those 50 story high lavish hotels and casinos? Wouldn't you say they are doing pretty good for themselves? I would too. I liken them to the insurance companies. Ever see an insurance company not make tons of bank? All have giant tower buildings, the employees make huge jack, etc. That's my analogy for today. Makes sense, no?

You didnt even listen to the damn song did you!???

Hey Melissa,,, have him listen to "New Love In Town".... IF Dean were to like ONE song by Europe, thatd be the song,,, specially if Dean would know the lyrics arent about a guy loving a chick, but its about Tempest feeling how he felt when he's little boy was born!

[steveo777]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

Ooo thats right,, chocolate,, my bad ,,,,

Cake reminds me of all the fat nurses my wife used to work with. I came to visit her one night and one of them was eating twinkies at the station. How many of the MR Nurses are porky? Shall I start a poll? (like I really expect to get honest answers)

[Sarah]

I read this reposted on several forums:

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on ton the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

[StevePerryHair]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

Ooo thats right,, chocolate,, my bad ,,,,

Cake reminds me of all the fat nurses my wife used to work with. I came to visit her one night and one of them was eating twinkies at the station. How many of the MR Nurses are porky? Shall I start a poll? (like I really expect to get honest answers)

What is your obsession with women and cake and fat? I wonder how in shape you are? Have you posted a pic yet?

[Rockindeano]

I read this reposted on several forums:

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on ton the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

Brilliant Sarah.

You won't hear a peep out of the Cons on this.

[steveo777]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

Ooo thats right,, chocolate,, my bad ,,,,

Cake reminds me of all the fat nurses my wife used to work with. I came to visit her one night and one of them was eating twinkies at the station. How many of the MR Nurses are porky? Shall I start a poll? (like I really expect to get honest answers)

What is your obsession with women and cake and fat? I wonder how in shape you are? Have you posted a pic yet?

I'm not fat. I'm big boned!
Yeah, alright, I'm probably 20-25lbs over. 6'3" and 260.

[Behshad]

I thought Steveo DID share a pic of himself with the rest of us

[StevePerryHair]

the providers are not the bad guys!! the insurance companies tend to fall into that catagory.

happy birthday!! what kind of cake will you be having? i want to imagine i'm there too .

Hey Lula!! Thanks! Something CHOCOLATE of course!

Ooo thats right,, chocolate,, my bad ,,,,

Cake reminds me of all the fat nurses my wife used to work with. I came to visit her one night and one of them was eating twinkies at the station. How many of the MR Nurses are porky? Shall I start a poll? (like I really expect to get honest answers)

What is your obsession with women and cake and fat? I wonder how in shape you are? Have you posted a pic yet?

I'm not fat. I'm big boned!
Yeah, alright, I'm probably 20-25lbs over.

so go have another piece of cake and keep your mouth shut, k??

[Melissa]

Shut up. You know damned well I don't think doctors or nurses are evil. Evil are the insurance companies. Look, remember we went to Vegas Smelly? Remember all those 50 story high lavish hotels and casinos? Wouldn't you say they are doing pretty good for themselves? I would too. I liken them to the insurance companies. Ever see an insurance company not make tons of bank? All have giant tower buildings, the employees make huge jack, etc. That's my analogy for today. Makes sense, no?

You shut up! No hey I get that part, I never said insurance companies aren't horrid, they are. I said I FIGHT them all the time at work, and I do. And I GET meds and things covered for my patients MOST of the time, and the times I lose it pisses me off, lol, but it's certainly not without a hell of a fight from me first, lol.

[steveo777]

I thought Steveo DID share a pic of himself with the rest of us

Stop fuckin trying to pass off pictures of you as me. We don't look anything alike, Hadji

[Michigan Girl]

I read this reposted on several forums:

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on ton the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

He wasn't driving a Toyota w/bad brakes or ingesting Fosamax ...

[Melissa]

You didnt even listen to the damn song did you!???

Hey Melissa,,, have him listen to "New Love In Town".... IF Dean were to like ONE song by Europe, thatd be the song,,, specially if Dean would know the lyrics arent about a guy loving a chick, but its about Tempest feeling how he felt when he's little boy was born!

Oh yeah! Listen to that one too.

[Rockindeano]

He wasn't driving a Toyota w/bad brakes

Something else the US Government did correctly last week. Getting in Toyota's face and making them make things right, and not at the consumer's pay either.

But it wasn't brakes, it was the accelerator.

[steveo777]

You didnt even listen to the damn song did you!???

Hey Melissa,,, have him listen to "New Love In Town".... IF Dean were to like ONE song by Europe, thatd be the song,,, specially if Dean would know the lyrics arent about a guy loving a chick, but its about Tempest feeling how he felt when he's little boy was born!

Oh yeah! Listen to that one too.

I like this unplugged version of the song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G4yO_NQUgU
Then there's the official version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0vGjQmnLhs

[Behshad]

I thought Steveo DID share a pic of himself with the rest of us

Stop fuckin trying to pass off pictures of you as me. We don't look anything alike, Hadji

Nice try, but people have met me and seen my pic. The picture above IS You until you prove it with an actual picture!

[Melissa]

Cake reminds me of all the fat nurses my wife used to work with. I came to visit her one night and one of them was eating twinkies at the station. How many of the MR Nurses are porky? Shall I start a poll? (like I really expect to get honest answers)

Oh yes because only nurses, esp. FAT ones, eat cake, right? You're weird dude!

Well this MR nurse isn't "porky" . Next