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Help! Growing A Maple in Metro-Manila

Postby wednesday's child » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:28 pm

I need electrical expertise for a horticultural problem
Maybe someone on MR has such knowledge? :)

I've been caring for this silver maple (Acer saccharinum) seedling
which I brought in from Illinois last September. It's the only one
out of four that didn't vanish in the floods of October (7 ft. deep
inside the house), and it has doubled in size since then... but now
is beginning to show signs of stress.
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Summer heat is REALLY on, and I tried to keep the soil and roots
cool, by using a DIY styropor chillbox with a TEC (Peltier) module,
both ends heatsinked with fans:
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The fans and TEC module were powered (in parallel) via AC-DC
adapter, and it worked, cooling the chillbox interior, for all of 55
minutes, before the adapter MELTED.

The fans and TEC module still work, post testing with a 9v battery,
but I could really use help choosing a proper power source...
or confirming where I went wrong, lol... (I thought a 1A transformer
would cut it... argh).


The devices:
Heibei TES1-12703 (DC Vmax 15.4v; Imax 3A)
http://www.hebeiltd.com.cn/peltier.datasheet/TEC1-12703.pdf
CPU fan TM-CF04 (DC 12v; 0.12A)
CPU fan TM-CF07 (DC 12v; 0.12A)

The failed power source was:
NEWSTAR NA-1000RS (output 1.5 to 12v selectable; Imax 10000mA)

I know that this species isn't supposed to survive here in tropical
Philippines, but I really want to give it a shot.


Thanks
:)
h.
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Re: Help! Growing A Maple in Metro-Manila

Postby steveo777 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:50 pm

wednesday's child wrote:I need electrical expertise for a horticultural problem
Maybe someone on MR has such knowledge? :)

I've been caring for this silver maple (Acer saccharinum) seedling
which I brought in from Illinois last September. It's the only one
out of four that didn't vanish in the floods of October (7 ft. deep
inside the house), and it has doubled in size since then... but now
is beginning to show signs of stress.
Image

Summer heat is REALLY on, and I tried to keep the soil and roots
cool, by using a DIY styropor chillbox with a TEC (Peltier) module,
both ends heatsinked with fans:
Image

Image

The fans and TEC module were powered (in parallel) via AC-DC
adapter, and it worked, cooling the chillbox interior, for all of 55
minutes, before the adapter MELTED.

The fans and TEC module still work, post testing with a 9v battery,
but I could really use help choosing a proper power source...
or confirming where I went wrong, lol... (I thought a 1A transformer
would cut it... argh).


The devices:
Heibei TES1-12703 (DC Vmax 15.4v; Imax 3A)
http://www.hebeiltd.com.cn/peltier.datasheet/TEC1-12703.pdf
CPU fan TM-CF04 (DC 12v; 0.12A)
CPU fan TM-CF07 (DC 12v; 0.12A)

The failed power source was:
NEWSTAR NA-1000RS (output 1.5 to 12v selectable; Imax 10000mA)

I know that this species isn't supposed to survive here in tropical
Philippines, but I really want to give it a shot.


Thanks
:)
h.


You should take the tree to Baguio. ;)
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Re: Help! Growing A Maple in Metro-Manila

Postby wednesday's child » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:04 pm

steveo777 wrote:You should take the tree to Baguio. ;)


Why not take your reasoning all the way ...and take the little fucker back to Illinois, then?
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Postby Don » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:44 pm

Maybe you can Gerry Rig a laptop cooler in there. The heat should not really be bothering it though as these things grow in Florida also which is humid as hell.. If it's really struggling, keep it in water, not just moist soil but standing water I would think.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:01 pm

Gunbot wrote:Maybe you can Gerry Rig a laptop cooler in there. The heat should not really be bothering it though as these things grow in Florida also which is humid as hell.. If it's really struggling, keep it in water, not just moist soil but standing water I would think.

So in other words , flood water won't work ? :P
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:16 pm

Gunbot wrote:Maybe you can Gerry Rig a laptop cooler in there. The heat should not really be bothering it though as these things grow in Florida also which is humid as hell.. If it's really struggling, keep it in water, not just moist soil but standing water I would think.


I don't think they grow in south florida though, where it's really hot. And honestly, we don't see a ton of maple trees here. Oak trees are much hardier and the planted tree of choice. Plus, I am not one for bringing plants to places where they are not indigenous. That has been done so much here in Florida we have all kinds of invasives to deal with. I think there is a reason things don't grow everywhere. A natural reason.
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Postby wednesday's child » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:29 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:Plus, I am not one for bringing plants to places where they are not indigenous.
That has been done so much here in Florida we have all kinds of invasives to deal with.


That is precisely why I chose a species that had virtually zero chance of surviving without my active support.
There is one species of Maple (Acer laurinum) indigenous to the Philippines, but it's borderline endangered
and thus nearly impossible hard to obtain, and frankly, it's not as pretty as what I'm trying to grow (lol).

Thanks for the observation on the Southern Florida presence of A. saccharinum :)

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Postby stevew2 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:06 am

you need a transformer that puts out more amps. If the tree dies you can always use the device to grow weed
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:24 am

stevew2 wrote:you need a transformer that puts out more amps. If the tree dies you can always use the device to grow weed


I like the way you think sometimes. :D
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:56 am

steveo777 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:you need a transformer that puts out more amps. If the tree dies you can always use the device to grow weed


I like the way you think sometimes. :D
thats right you re a pothead and a dickhead
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Postby wednesday's child » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:00 am

stevew2 wrote:you need a transformer that puts out more amps.


I'm getting myself a 6-amp transformer. Thanks.

steveo777 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:you need a transformer that puts out more amps. If the tree dies you can always use the device to grow weed


I like the way you think sometimes. :D


Where I live, no device at all is needed to grow that shit,
you dumbasses...
:lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:03 am

wednesday's child wrote:
stevew2 wrote:you need a transformer that puts out more amps.


I'm getting myself a 6-amp transformer. Thanks.

steveo777 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:you need a transformer that puts out more amps. If the tree dies you can always use the device to grow weed


I like the way you think sometimes. :D


Where I live, no device at all is needed to grow that shit,
you dumbasses...
:lol:


I spose, but don't they castrate you there if you get caught? :shock: :wink:
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Postby wednesday's child » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:00 am

steveo777 wrote:don't they castrate you there if you get caught? :shock: :wink:


I'll just point out that I'm Asian,
then they might not even bother.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:04 am

wednesday's child wrote:
steveo777 wrote:don't they castrate you there if you get caught? :shock: :wink:


I'll just point out that I'm Asian,
then they might not even bother.
:oops:


You guys aren't known for your trophy cocks? :lol:

Actually, I attended a cock fight last time I was there.
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Postby wednesday's child » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:03 am

steveo777 wrote:You guys aren't known for your trophy cocks? :lol:

Conventional wisdom severely underrates us. :lol:
We're too tired from so much hardcore sex with hot women, to care.
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