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Postby S2M » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:37 am

Behshad wrote:With Wii having 3 games on top 5, I hardly doubt it that the GAMING COMMUNITY has given up on Wii... Its a fact that Nintendo gets both gamers AND non-gamers onboard.... a smart move if you ask me.


NPD’s Top Ten Software Sales in February 2010


01. BioShock 2 (X360) – 562,900
02. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) – 555,600
03. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (X360) – 314,300
04. Just Dance (Wii) – 275,400
05. Wii Sports Resort (Wii) – 272,500
06. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3) – 252,800
07. Mass Effect 2 (X360) – 246,500
08. Dante’s Inferno (PS3) – 242,500
09. Dante’s Inferno (X360) – 224,700
10. Heavy Rain (PS3) – 219,300



False conclusion, B...

That's like saying Journey hasn't slipped into obscurity because Revelation went pseudo-platinum.....
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Postby Behshad » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:43 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Behshad wrote:With Wii having 3 games on top 5, I hardly doubt it that the GAMING COMMUNITY has given up on Wii... Its a fact that Nintendo gets both gamers AND non-gamers onboard.... a smart move if you ask me.


NPD’s Top Ten Software Sales in February 2010


01. BioShock 2 (X360) – 562,900
02. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) – 555,600
03. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (X360) – 314,300
04. Just Dance (Wii) – 275,400
05. Wii Sports Resort (Wii) – 272,500
06. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3) – 252,800
07. Mass Effect 2 (X360) – 246,500
08. Dante’s Inferno (PS3) – 242,500
09. Dante’s Inferno (X360) – 224,700
10. Heavy Rain (PS3) – 219,300



False conclusion, B...

That's like saying Journey hasn't slipped into obscurity because Revelation went pseudo-platinum.....


Journey is a HAS BEEN band,,,, that has nothing to do with VIDEO GAMES SALES,,,these are new games coming out, and you never see a game get extra points of sale for 2 copies if they include a bonus disc or somehting in the package.
My whole point is that Nintendo is A LOT bigger than Monker think they are,,,, Monker has every right to dislike Nintendo, but to say that theyre out of the competition and they make crappy boring games, is HIS personal views, not the GAMERS COMMUNITY,,,,

And the exact reason he mentioned that Microsoft might still make another system, even if it means LOSING money on the system like sony did with PS3, is what I think IS THE REASON that they will give up on the hardware market and focus on software like Sega did. Microsoft was huge in software sales WAY before the first Xbox came out......
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:52 am

Here is the thing about the Wii. I know A LOT of families who own a Wii. And then of those families, they own either the 360 OR the PS3, not both in most cases. The Wii is SO different and has such different capabilities with it's interactiveness, that average homes have it and another system. I think that is REALLY smart marketing. A game system that even grandparents can play? I'd say that Nintendo is the smartest of the bunch. :lol:
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Postby S2M » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:02 am

B, you are so focused on being RIGHT, that you frequently, and totally gloss over a person's main point...Monker is saying he is bored with Nintendo's staple games....and the Wii isn't a console for hardcore gamers....who cares about sales figures? Remember, the Wii was scarce and near impossible to find during that holiday season....so where sales figures were low at the beginning- now that manufacturing has caught up to demand...it looks like Wii is outselling everything.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:21 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:B, you are so focused on being RIGHT, that you frequently, and totally gloss over a person's main point...Monker is saying he is bored with Nintendo's staple games....and the Wii isn't a console for hardcore gamers....who cares about sales figures? Remember, the Wii was scarce and near impossible to find during that holiday season....so where sales figures were low at the beginning- now that manufacturing has caught up to demand...it looks like Wii is outselling everything.



My point is that there are plenty of true gamers , myself included , that enjoy what Nintendo brings to the table.
I never said ALL gamers are Wii lovers. He's making it a point that because HE is bored with Wii and Mario & Zelda games , The entire gaming community feels the same.

The shortage thing was for few months , 4 years ago :)
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Postby S2M » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:25 am

Behshad wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:B, you are so focused on being RIGHT, that you frequently, and totally gloss over a person's main point...Monker is saying he is bored with Nintendo's staple games....and the Wii isn't a console for hardcore gamers....who cares about sales figures? Remember, the Wii was scarce and near impossible to find during that holiday season....so where sales figures were low at the beginning- now that manufacturing has caught up to demand...it looks like Wii is outselling everything.



My point is that there are plenty of true gamers , myself included , that enjoy what Nintendo brings to the table.
I never said ALL gamers are Wii lovers. He's making it a point that because HE is bored with Wii and Mario & Zelda games , The entire gaming community feels the same.

The shortage thing was for few months , 4 years ago :)


Please step away from the Magnavox Odyssey.... :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:27 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Behshad wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:B, you are so focused on being RIGHT, that you frequently, and totally gloss over a person's main point...Monker is saying he is bored with Nintendo's staple games....and the Wii isn't a console for hardcore gamers....who cares about sales figures? Remember, the Wii was scarce and near impossible to find during that holiday season....so where sales figures were low at the beginning- now that manufacturing has caught up to demand...it looks like Wii is outselling everything.



My point is that there are plenty of true gamers , myself included , that enjoy what Nintendo brings to the table.
I never said ALL gamers are Wii lovers. He's making it a point that because HE is bored with Wii and Mario & Zelda games , The entire gaming community feels the same.

The shortage thing was for few months , 4 years ago :)


Please step away from the Magnavox Odyssey.... :lol:



Please step away from Monker's rear end :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:38 am

StevePerryHair wrote:Here is the thing about the Wii. I know A LOT of families who own a Wii. And then of those families, they own either the 360 OR the PS3, not both in most cases. The Wii is SO different and has such different capabilities with it's interactiveness, that average homes have it and another system. I think that is REALLY smart marketing. A game system that even grandparents can play? I'd say that Nintendo is the smartest of the bunch. :lol:


True :lol: Rock Band is another one I'm horrible at except for the "drums" :lol: I can't play that stupid button guitar for crap :x , can't sing, but damn it I can play some drums :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Monker » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:51 am

Behshad wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Behshad wrote:With Wii having 3 games on top 5, I hardly doubt it that the GAMING COMMUNITY has given up on Wii... Its a fact that Nintendo gets both gamers AND non-gamers onboard.... a smart move if you ask me.


NPD’s Top Ten Software Sales in February 2010


01. BioShock 2 (X360) – 562,900
02. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) – 555,600
03. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (X360) – 314,300
04. Just Dance (Wii) – 275,400
05. Wii Sports Resort (Wii) – 272,500
06. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3) – 252,800
07. Mass Effect 2 (X360) – 246,500
08. Dante’s Inferno (PS3) – 242,500
09. Dante’s Inferno (X360) – 224,700
10. Heavy Rain (PS3) – 219,300



False conclusion, B...

That's like saying Journey hasn't slipped into obscurity because Revelation went pseudo-platinum.....


Journey is a HAS BEEN band,,,, that has nothing to do with VIDEO GAMES SALES,,,these are new games coming out, and you never see a game get extra points of sale for 2 copies if they include a bonus disc or somehting in the package.
My whole point is that Nintendo is A LOT bigger than Monker think they are,,,, Monker has every right to dislike Nintendo, but to say that theyre out of the competition and they make crappy boring games, is HIS personal views, not the GAMERS COMMUNITY,,,,

And the exact reason he mentioned that Microsoft might still make another system, even if it means LOSING money on the system like sony did with PS3, is what I think IS THE REASON that they will give up on the hardware market and focus on software like Sega did. Microsoft was huge in software sales WAY before the first Xbox came out......


Well, I didn't say Nintendo isn't "big". I didn't say they were "out of the competition". In fact, I said all three consoles can claim success. I don't 'dislike' Nintendo....I think the Wii games are boring compared to what is on other systems.

My opinion is that Nintendo is no longer going after hard core gamers. My opinion is they are losing third party support and the quality of games is suffering because of it. Yes, I do believe that many gamers are dropping Nintendo in favor of other systems...because of the games and what the system offers.

Sorry, but having three games in the top 10 is not very good...and is about what I expected. And, if you pay attention, what that also shows is the lack of support that I am talking about. Is BioShock or Dante's Inferno even on the Wii? No. Why sin't the Wii version of Modern Warfare 2 in that list? Because gamers know the Wii is not giving them the full game - because the hardware can not handle it. The Wii games? A Mario title, a sequel to Wii Sports, and a goofy dance thing for kids...that is NOT an impressive list for Nintendo AT ALL. Again, the wii-mote was supposed to be a dream controller for FPS games...but few are released on the Wii and those that are FAIL.

I don't get what you are saying about Microsoft releasing software. What Microsoft title has EVER been released for Sony, Nintendo, Sega, Atari, or any other console? They do PC software, true. But, until the Xbox, I don't think they did GAMES for the PC. My point is that when Activision, for example, releases a title for the Xbox, Microsoft receives $'s from Activision. THAT is where they make the money...as long as that is there they can take a loss on the console. But, if there is no third party support and few games - they don't make the $'s. Microsoft does not have a problem with that for the Xbox. Neither does Sony for the PS3.

My opinion is that this time next year Nintendo will be talking about a new console. Backward compatible with the Wii, better motion controllers, more powerful processor, more memory, and HD video and sound. If they don't do that...they will be lagging very, very far behind.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:00 pm

Microsoft made games long before xbox games.
The Flight Simulator and Age Of Empire series are a few to mention that were released long before the console wars of current generation.

And nintendo is showing that they can survive and conquer WITHOUT 3rd party support. :)
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Postby Monker » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:56 pm

Behshad wrote:Microsoft made games long before xbox games.
The Flight Simulator and Age Of Empire series are a few to mention that were released long before the console wars of current generation.

And nintendo is showing that they can survive and conquer WITHOUT 3rd party support. :)


Mario Kart on steroids:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/sceablog/videos/884/

The sad thing about this list is that not only did the PS3 and 360 beat out the Wii...but so did the GameCube, N64, PS2, and XBox...no respect from gamers at all...your estimate on % of quality games is also VERY far off. The Wii's % is half that of the PS3 and 360, VERY bad...and does not even compete:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178474
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Postby Behshad » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:38 pm

Its funny how youre trying to get the last word, but I wont let you ! :twisted: :lol:

Check out the list of the BEST SELLING VIDEOGAMES OF ALL TIME ! Nintendo has 18 of the 20 titles !! Looks like NON-GAMER are taking over the world :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be ... ideo_games


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