Question for Deano

[Jubilee]

am I the only one on here to be bothered by the hollow sound of some of his upper register vocals on tbf? It really bothered my ears. One other person on here mentioned it and called it tin like, and they are right. But no one else on MR seems to notice that. Even some of the boring songs I could enjoy with Steve Perry's great tone, but that upper register hollow sound really bothers my ears on so many of the songs. I try not to notice it but I can't help it. It's one reason why I don't enjoy listening to the whole album even on a nice rainy day, which that CD is suited for. His vocals did not sound like that on ROR.

Example of the phenomenon you are talking about? Give a song and preferably a certain part of the vocal, too. I shall listen and give my take.

Pretty much all of MOL shows a really fragile, hollow voice. I Can See It IN Your Eyes, too. It's much more evident on the "rock" songs. His power and ability to "lift off," as Herbie put it, was gone.

Oh for Christ's Sakes!!!! There was enough there for NEAL is GOD to GO AND HIT THE STUDIO FOR TBF!!!


He was the fucking "VOICE" of Journey...even Schon knows it!!!!


Whatever!!! you all can say what you want!!! AND THE ONES WHO LOVE THE VOICE ARE DELUSIONAL??



The ones who dissect TBF are the ones who don't GET it....ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!

Slow your roll, Loon Sistah. There's no denying that by the time TBF was recorded Perry's voice had undergone some changes - and not necessarily for the better. I think "fragile" "tin-like", and "hollow" are all adequate descriptions of his vocals on that album.

[Saint John]

am I the only one on here to be bothered by the hollow sound of some of his upper register vocals on tbf? It really bothered my ears. One other person on here mentioned it and called it tin like, and they are right. But no one else on MR seems to notice that. Even some of the boring songs I could enjoy with Steve Perry's great tone, but that upper register hollow sound really bothers my ears on so many of the songs. I try not to notice it but I can't help it. It's one reason why I don't enjoy listening to the whole album even on a nice rainy day, which that CD is suited for. His vocals did not sound like that on ROR.

Example of the phenomenon you are talking about? Give a song and preferably a certain part of the vocal, too. I shall listen and give my take.

Pretty much all of MOL shows a really fragile, hollow voice. I Can See It IN Your Eyes, too. It's much more evident on the "rock" songs. His power and ability to "lift off," as Herbie put it, was gone.

Oh for Christ's Sakes!!!! There was enough there for NEAL is GOD to GO AND HIT THE STUDIO FOR TBF!!!


He was the fucking "VOICE" of Journey...even Schon knows it!!!!


Whatever!!! you all can say what you want!!! AND THE ONES WHO LOVE THE VOICE ARE DELUSIONAL??

The ones who dissect TBF are the ones who don't GET it....ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!

Go suck a horse cock.

[portland]

am I the only one on here to be bothered by the hollow sound of some of his upper register vocals on tbf? It really bothered my ears. One other person on here mentioned it and called it tin like, and they are right. But no one else on MR seems to notice that. Even some of the boring songs I could enjoy with Steve Perry's great tone, but that upper register hollow sound really bothers my ears on so many of the songs. I try not to notice it but I can't help it. It's one reason why I don't enjoy listening to the whole album even on a nice rainy day, which that CD is suited for. His vocals did not sound like that on ROR.

Example of the phenomenon you are talking about? Give a song and preferably a certain part of the vocal, too. I shall listen and give my take.

Pretty much all of MOL shows a really fragile, hollow voice. I Can See It IN Your Eyes, too. It's much more evident on the "rock" songs. His power and ability to "lift off," as Herbie put it, was gone.

Oh for Christ's Sakes!!!! There was enough there for NEAL is GOD to GO AND HIT THE STUDIO FOR TBF!!!


He was the fucking "VOICE" of Journey...even Schon knows it!!!!


Whatever!!! you all can say what you want!!! AND THE ONES WHO LOVE THE VOICE ARE DELUSIONAL??

The ones who dissect TBF are the ones who don't GET it....ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!

Go suck a horse cock.

Love you too DAN...and well fuck off as WELL!!!

[Jubilee]

Uh-oh...

[portland]

am I the only one on here to be bothered by the hollow sound of some of his upper register vocals on tbf? It really bothered my ears. One other person on here mentioned it and called it tin like, and they are right. But no one else on MR seems to notice that. Even some of the boring songs I could enjoy with Steve Perry's great tone, but that upper register hollow sound really bothers my ears on so many of the songs. I try not to notice it but I can't help it. It's one reason why I don't enjoy listening to the whole album even on a nice rainy day, which that CD is suited for. His vocals did not sound like that on ROR.

Example of the phenomenon you are talking about? Give a song and preferably a certain part of the vocal, too. I shall listen and give my take.

Pretty much all of MOL shows a really fragile, hollow voice. I Can See It IN Your Eyes, too. It's much more evident on the "rock" songs. His power and ability to "lift off," as Herbie put it, was gone.

Oh for Christ's Sakes!!!! There was enough there for NEAL is GOD to GO AND HIT THE STUDIO FOR TBF!!!


He was the fucking "VOICE" of Journey...even Schon knows it!!!!


Whatever!!! you all can say what you want!!! AND THE ONES WHO LOVE THE VOICE ARE DELUSIONAL??



The ones who dissect TBF are the ones who don't GET it....ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!

Slow your roll, Loon Sistah. There's no denying that by the time TBF was recorded Perry's voice had undergone some changes - and not necessarily for the better. I think "fragile" "tin-like", and "hollow" are all adequate descriptions of his vocals on that album.

My point is Neal still threw the dice....???????????

[Jana]

Hey Jana no wine here...and yes there are differences that you all make VERY clear!!!


We will see what comes next....It had better be good...ya can't ride the coat tails forever...ya know??

Oh, don't be so hard on Steve. I'm sure what comes next will be good and not riding their coattails.

[portland]

:shock:

Uh-oh...

No no worries I am out...I am done banging my head against a wall..I like who and what I like for music....Dan is not going to change my mind or is Deano!!! Fuck IT!!


Enjoy what you enjoy!!!

[portland]

Hey Jana no wine here...and yes there are differences that you all make VERY clear!!!


We will see what comes next....It had better be good...ya can't ride the coat tails forever...ya know??

Oh, don't be so hard on Steve. I'm sure what comes next will be good and not riding their coattails.

Hey Jana FU!!!


See Ya around there sister!!!

[Jana]

am I the only one on here to be bothered by the hollow sound of some of his upper register vocals on tbf? It really bothered my ears. One other person on here mentioned it and called it tin like, and they are right. But no one else on MR seems to notice that. Even some of the boring songs I could enjoy with Steve Perry's great tone, but that upper register hollow sound really bothers my ears on so many of the songs. I try not to notice it but I can't help it. It's one reason why I don't enjoy listening to the whole album even on a nice rainy day, which that CD is suited for. His vocals did not sound like that on ROR.

Example of the phenomenon you are talking about? Give a song and preferably a certain part of the vocal, too. I shall listen and give my take.

Pretty much all of MOL shows a really fragile, hollow voice. I Can See It IN Your Eyes, too. It's much more evident on the "rock" songs. His power and ability to "lift off," as Herbie put it, was gone.

Oh for Christ's Sakes!!!! There was enough there for NEAL is GOD to GO AND HIT THE STUDIO FOR TBF!!!


He was the fucking "VOICE" of Journey...even Schon knows it!!!!


Whatever!!! you all can say what you want!!! AND THE ONES WHO LOVE THE VOICE ARE DELUSIONAL??



The ones who dissect TBF are the ones who don't GET it....ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!

Slow your roll, Loon Sistah. There's no denying that by the time TBF was recorded Perry's voice had undergone some changes - and not necessarily for the better. I think "fragile" "tin-like", and "hollow" are all adequate descriptions of his vocals on that album.

I guess she wants it to be like the Steve Perry forum, butterflies and rainbows. No dissecting TBF allowed.

[Jana]

Hey Jana no wine here...and yes there are differences that you all make VERY clear!!!


We will see what comes next....It had better be good...ya can't ride the coat tails forever...ya know??

Oh, don't be so hard on Steve. I'm sure what comes next will be good and not riding their coattails.

Hey Jana FU!!!


See Ya around there sister!!!

You walked into that one. I couldn't help myself, P.

[Jana]

:shock:

Uh-oh...

No no worries I am out...I am done banging my head against a wall..I like who and what I like for music....Dan is not going to change my mind or is Deano!!! Fuck IT!!


Enjoy what you enjoy!!!

Now you got it. No one is trying to change anyone's mind. It's discussion. Like how I love love Raoul & the Kings of Spain, and S2M bashes it, calls it a snoozefest, and many huge TFF fans bash it. What do I care? They're allowed to not like it.

[portland]

am I the only one on here to be bothered by the hollow sound of some of his upper register vocals on tbf? It really bothered my ears. One other person on here mentioned it and called it tin like, and they are right. But no one else on MR seems to notice that. Even some of the boring songs I could enjoy with Steve Perry's great tone, but that upper register hollow sound really bothers my ears on so many of the songs. I try not to notice it but I can't help it. It's one reason why I don't enjoy listening to the whole album even on a nice rainy day, which that CD is suited for. His vocals did not sound like that on ROR.

Example of the phenomenon you are talking about? Give a song and preferably a certain part of the vocal, too. I shall listen and give my take.

Pretty much all of MOL shows a really fragile, hollow voice. I Can See It IN Your Eyes, too. It's much more evident on the "rock" songs. His power and ability to "lift off," as Herbie put it, was gone.

Oh for Christ's Sakes!!!! There was enough there for NEAL is GOD to GO AND HIT THE STUDIO FOR TBF!!!



Jana...no ragging on Neal aloud as well??

It really is a mute point....as for all of it...I like my lead singers with the songs they made famous...for me the rest is a tribute band....you can disagree and love it...I don't and NEVER will.


Over and OUT!

Take CARE All!!!


He was the fucking "VOICE" of Journey...even Schon knows it!!!!


Whatever!!! you all can say what you want!!! AND THE ONES WHO LOVE THE VOICE ARE DELUSIONAL??



The ones who dissect TBF are the ones who don't GET it....ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!

Slow your roll, Loon Sistah. There's no denying that by the time TBF was recorded Perry's voice had undergone some changes - and not necessarily for the better. I think "fragile" "tin-like", and "hollow" are all adequate descriptions of his vocals on that album.

I guess she wants it to be like the Steve Perry forum, butterflies and rainbows. No dissecting TBF allowed.

Whatever......


Enjoy what you all do!!! Life is too short not to.

I like my lead singers with the songs that made me swoon....and well that is me.


If you can get past it then rock on....for me it's not the same and never will be!!!

After all it's what makes us happy and motivates us all!

Take Care!

[Jubilee]

My point is Neal still threw the dice....???????????

Yeah, well, Neal used to drink a lot, too.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure Neal thought he had any other options at that time. IMO, Neal was trying to hold on to something that was already gone.

[Since 78]

I see portland is NOT caring again.

[7 Wishes]

TBF was brilliant. Perry had lost a little power in his upper register, but had compensated for it with even more inflection and emotion. A whirlwind tour would have been out of the question, but a three-month, 25-city tour would have been possible, had Steve not enegendered to "injure" his "hip" and leave the band in limbo (again, albeit this time for "only" two years).

[Don]

I may not care for the material but the production of TBF is over the moon, just an outstanding job.

[Saint John]

I may not care for the material but the production of TBF is over the moon, just an outstanding job.

Probably the best sonic on an album that I've ever heard. Makes you wonder how Revelation came out so muffled and dead.

[Ehwmatt]

I may not care for the material but the production of TBF is over the moon, just an outstanding job.

Neal, Smitty, and Cain NEVER sounded better production-wise. I've heard some people take issue with the vocal sound, but I've always loved it - plenty of space created by the delay/reverb to fit the moody songs.

[Saint John]

I may not care for the material but the production of TBF is over the moon, just an outstanding job.

Neal, Smitty, and Cain NEVER sounded better production-wise. I've heard some people take issue with the vocal sound, but I've always loved it - plenty of space created by the delay/reverb to fit the moody songs.

I don't think the vocal sound was the issue ... more like the voice's overall condition. The vocals were up and in front, commanded the songs, but the condition of the voice itself seemed fragile and weak.

[Ehwmatt]

I may not care for the material but the production of TBF is over the moon, just an outstanding job.

Neal, Smitty, and Cain NEVER sounded better production-wise. I've heard some people take issue with the vocal sound, but I've always loved it - plenty of space created by the delay/reverb to fit the moody songs.

I don't think the vocal sound was the issue ... more like the voice's overall condition. The vocals were up and in front, commanded the songs, but the condition of the voice itself seemed fragile and weak.

I've heard some production-specific complaints to the effect that people say it sounds like the mic is being turned off at the end of phrases, there's vocal clipping, and what not... might just be bad punch-ins on the vocal take in the case of the former, but whatever the case may be, I've never noticed

[Saint John]

I may not care for the material but the production of TBF is over the moon, just an outstanding job.

Neal, Smitty, and Cain NEVER sounded better production-wise. I've heard some people take issue with the vocal sound, but I've always loved it - plenty of space created by the delay/reverb to fit the moody songs.

I don't think the vocal sound was the issue ... more like the voice's overall condition. The vocals were up and in front, commanded the songs, but the condition of the voice itself seemed fragile and weak.

I've heard some production-specific complaints to the effect that people say it sounds like the mic is being turned off at the end of phrases, there's vocal clipping, and what not... might just be bad punch-ins on the vocal take in the case of the former, but whatever the case may be, I've never noticed

The "vocal clipping" was only discovered with the vocals being isolated. I can't imagine anyone complained during the actual album version of the songs.

[perryswoman]

It would be mistake for Perry to rejoin. He gets as much pub as the band does if you go by Google trends. He can continue to be the spokesman for DSB and also keep collecting royalties. Now that the back catalog is being re-released by Sony in Europe and Australia, there just isn't any reason for Perry to embarrass himself by getting on stage trying to sing 25 year old songs with a 60 year old's voice.
No one is going to disassociate him with Journey. With the band's inability to get the casual fan interested in their new music, it just will never happen. Band member #6 is in it for the long haul, regardless of who is currently replicating him on stage.

The band and Perry are both doing what they want to do. They are playing, he is sitting home and they are all getting paid for material they created over two decades ago. Everybody's happy.

I don't know. Steve sounds sad a lot to me in interviews having never performed live but one tour since 1987. Whether with Journey or solo not peforming, I think he misses it on some level horribly at times, the intense feeling you get from a live audience responding to you and doing what you loved.

I agree totally

[Don]

I think the song Colors Of The Spirit is a good illustration of a hollow voice. When he sings the chorus, it sounds like he is hoarse, as if he just came back from yelling at a ballgame or whatever. It borders close to Laryngitis.

[Jana]

I think the song Colors Of The Spirit is a good illustration of a hollow voice. When he sings the chorus, it sounds like he is hoarse, as if he just came back from yelling at a ballgame or whatever. It borders close to Laryngitis.

great example of one of the TBF songs that kills my ears on certain notes. Too bad for me b/c I think this is a really good song. I don't remember FTLOSM having this problem, but I will have to take a listen and see. I haven't listened to the whole album in quite a while except my favs off of it, like Donna Please. One of Perry's best vocals and songs, to me, solo. Beautiful.

[Ehwmatt]

I think the song Colors Of The Spirit is a good illustration of a hollow voice. When he sings the chorus, it sounds like he is hoarse, as if he just came back from yelling at a ballgame or whatever. It borders close to Laryngitis.

I can see that. I don't really listen to that tune because it sucks. Only cool part is when Neal's guitar first comes in after the cheesy flute... pretty cool clean tone on those open chords.

[annpea]

TBF was brilliant. Perry had lost a little power in his upper register, but had compensated for it with even more inflection and emotion. A whirlwind tour would have been out of the question, but a three-month, 25-city tour would have been possible, had Steve not enegendered to "injure" his "hip" and leave the band in limbo (again, albeit this time for "only" two years).

[Rockindeano]

:shock:

Uh-oh...

No no worries I am out...I am done banging my head against a wall..I like who and what I like for music....Dan is not going to change my mind or is Deano!!! Fuck IT!!

What the fuck P? I am on Perry's side! I love Dan, but he and I are on different sides on the Espee fence.

I still loathe RobbieG and hope he contracts Gonorrhea, as well as Herpes and cuntzits.

[Since 78]

TBF was brilliant. Perry had lost a little power in his upper register, but had compensated for it with even more inflection and emotion. A whirlwind tour would have been out of the question, but a three-month, 25-city tour would have been possible, had Steve not enegendered to "injure" his "hip" and leave the band in limbo (again, albeit this time for "only" two years).

Well, its the truth no?

[annpea]

TBF was brilliant. Perry had lost a little power in his upper register, but had compensated for it with even more inflection and emotion. A whirlwind tour would have been out of the question, but a three-month, 25-city tour would have been possible, had Steve not enegendered to "injure" his "hip" and leave the band in limbo (again, albeit this time for "only" two years).

Well, its the truth no?

Well, he hasn't confessed to that as of yet; maybe we all should hunt him down and beat the truth out of him. J/K

[portland]

:shock:

Uh-oh...

No no worries I am out...I am done banging my head against a wall..I like who and what I like for music....Dan is not going to change my mind or is Deano!!! Fuck IT!!

What the fuck P? I am on Perry's side! I love Dan, but he and I are on different sides on the Espee fence.

I still loathe RobbieG and hope he contracts Gonorrhea, as well as Herpes and cuntzits.

Love ya Deano!!!! You can stand with me on this side of the fence anytime...you and I don't see eye to eye on other vocalists and bands.....see my AV