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Postby Sarah » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:44 pm

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steveo777 wrote:It's not rape if all she was doing was giving him 'come fuck me signals'.

What the fuck am I reading. Are you seriously implying that "she was asking for it" is a legitimate argument against rape allegations? If a woman says no or is not able to consent (in California, at least, drunk people are legally incapable of consenting) then it is rape. Especially if she says no, REGARDLESS of how she was acting earlier.

It's a shame when people take advantage and cheapen the seriousness of rape allegations, but saying that it's not rape when a woman was "giving signals" earlier is just absurd.


If I seriously believed he raped her, I'd be all for whatever punishment the system can dole out. I don't.

That's fine, but saying "It's not rape if she was giving 'come fuck me signals'" is an ignorant thing to say and can be easily read as a generalization of rape allegations, and really shouldn't even be joked about imo even if you think this girl is lying. Rape should never be blamed on the victim. No one deserves to be violated in that way. I would rather be murdered than raped and have to live with the mental scarring, much less a stigma of being some kind of slut who was asking for it. "No" is "no" and it doesn't matter what it seemed like she wanted earlier.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:50 pm

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YoungJRNY wrote:Ben is AT LEAST 260.


I think you're being generous! :lol:


Maybe. I remember it was either Adalius Thomas or Jason Taylor one time said that when they hit into Roethlisberger that they literally got the wind knocked out of them and bounced back. They said he's like a brick wall that can move like a cat and is stronger than what some people might think. Hell, he stiff arms defensive ends.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:16 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:
Saint John wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Ben is AT LEAST 260.


I think you're being generous! :lol:


Maybe. I remember it was either Adalius Thomas or Jason Taylor one time said that when they hit into Roethlisberger that they literally got the wind knocked out of them and bounced back. They said he's like a brick wall that can move like a cat and is stronger than what some people might think. Hell, he stiff arms defensive ends.


Well, the smart money says he can't stiff arm the Commissioner. He meets with Goodell this morning, and many in the NFL think he will be suspended, although how many games is in doubt.

Looks like the Stealers will miss out yet again on the playoffs. That's just too bad isn't it? Darn.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:29 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
Saint John wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Ben is AT LEAST 260.


I think you're being generous! :lol:


Maybe. I remember it was either Adalius Thomas or Jason Taylor one time said that when they hit into Roethlisberger that they literally got the wind knocked out of them and bounced back. They said he's like a brick wall that can move like a cat and is stronger than what some people might think. Hell, he stiff arms defensive ends.


Well, the smart money says he can't stiff arm the Commissioner. He meets with Goodell this morning, and many in the NFL think he will be suspended, although how many games is in doubt.

Looks like the Stealers will miss out yet again on the playoffs. That's just too bad isn't it? Darn.


The Rooney's will get to Ben before Goodell does either way. I expect atleast a 2 game suspension, maybe more. I look for the Steelers to have a solid draft and address their many problems on the offense and defensive side of the ball. With all of these allegations and a very, very rough off-season, the way it looks.. and even though teammates have said there is NO distraction, the morale isn't what it used to be in the Steelers lock room and it could show early on if there is. Because of it, I don't expect us to have too great of a season. With that said, THIS is the Steelers team I prefer to watch. When people turn their back on them and they are out with something to prove and need to climb the ranks of respectability.

They need to get that tenacity back and I expect that this season. It's simply retarded to even talk playoffs when neither NFL franchise even knows the order of their 2010 schedule yet. I'll deal with it when it comes.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:57 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Saint John wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Ben is AT LEAST 260.


I think you're being generous! :lol:


Maybe. I remember it was either Adalius Thomas or Jason Taylor one time said that when they hit into Roethlisberger that they literally got the wind knocked out of them and bounced back. They said he's like a brick wall that can move like a cat and is stronger than what some people might think. Hell, he stiff arms defensive ends.


Well, the smart money says he can't stiff arm the Commissioner. He meets with Goodell this morning, and many in the NFL think he will be suspended, although how many games is in doubt.

Looks like the Stealers will miss out yet again on the playoffs. That's just too bad isn't it? Darn.


The Rooney's will get to Ben before Goodell does either way. I expect atleast a 2 game suspension, maybe more. I look for the Steelers to have a solid draft and address their many problems on the offense and defensive side of the ball. With all of these allegations and a very, very rough off-season, the way it looks.. and even though teammates have said there is NO distraction, the morale isn't what it used to be in the Steelers lock room and it could show early on if there is. Because of it, I don't expect us to have too great of a season. With that said, THIS is the Steelers team I prefer to watch. When people turn their back on them and they are out with something to prove and need to climb the ranks of respectability.

They need to get that tenacity back and I expect that this season. It's simply retarded to even talk playoffs when neither NFL franchise even knows the order of their 2010 schedule yet. I'll deal with it when it comes.


Worthlessberger can't help himself, it's only a matter of time before he slips up again. Enjoy it while it lasts, my prediction is he wastes the second half of his career.
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Postby squirt1 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:52 am

The Stealers ??? Now ,who would be clever enough to come up with that. Anyway, Terry Bradshaw went off on Ben today. He was fired up!
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Postby wastingbeerz » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:39 pm

Big Ben is a big dumb douche, rapist or no. Too many people just let athletes/celebrities slide on bad behavior just because they're good at their professions. I'm tired of it. Have a nice day!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:46 am

Don't give a hell, this shit is hilarious!

The league commissioner met with Ben Roethlisberger "behind closed" doors for 2 hours on Tuesday to discuss recent allegations against the two time Super Bowl champion.

Mr. Roethlisberger emerged from the meeting, in which his lawyers and agents described as productive, with a 'wink' and a 'smile'.

Roger Goodell emerged with disheveled hair and smeared lipstick and immediately requested a telephone to call local authorities.

A visibly shaken and slightly incoherent Goodell claimed he was sexually assaulted and authorites believe 'hormonal groping' has occured during the lengthy encounter.

Mr. Goodell has recently reported to a nearby hospital.

KDKA continues to investigate. More news to follow.
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Postby Don » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:50 am

Maui Tom wrote:http://kdka.com/local/ben.roethlisberger.lawyer.2.1629586.html


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One day after a district attorney in Georgia announced that no charges would be filed against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and hours before Roethlisberger would meet with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, a Boston attorney told a sports radio station that he was retained to look into similar allegations against the Steelers quarterback six months ago.

During a radio interview with WEEI in Boston this morning, attorney Harry Manion talked about a case involving Roethlisberger at a Las Vegas nightclub.

"Six months ago I was retained by a client of mine and close friend to investigate allegations against Ben Roethlisberger in a Las Vegas nightclub," Manion told WEEI. "My client was a graduate of college, 26-years-old, out socially with a bunch of other young women, grabbed from the line, brought up to the VIP suite. Same old story."

Manion said the woman claimed there was unconsented sexual touching; but Manion told WEEI, "The young woman did not want to proceed, and we did not take any action."
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:22 am

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One day after a district attorney in Georgia announced that no charges would be filed against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and hours before Roethlisberger would meet with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, a Boston attorney told a sports radio station that he was retained to look into similar allegations against the Steelers quarterback six months ago.

During a radio interview with WEEI in Boston this morning, attorney Harry Manion talked about a case involving Roethlisberger at a Las Vegas nightclub.

"Six months ago I was retained by a client of mine and close friend to investigate allegations against Ben Roethlisberger in a Las Vegas nightclub," Manion told WEEI. "My client was a graduate of college, 26-years-old, out socially with a bunch of other young women, grabbed from the line, brought up to the VIP suite. Same old story."

Manion said the woman claimed there was unconsented sexual touching; but Manion told WEEI, "The young woman did not want to proceed, and we did not take any action."


Prolly decided it wasn't in her best interests to have her family and friends hear in court how she swallowed a load of jiz and took it up the poop chute, especially if it was a plan to extort gone awry. :shock:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:31 am

The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:52 am

YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:01 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


They should just hire a ho and keep him!! :wink:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:04 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


My emotions are through the roof on this subject.

Many, many mixed signals out there that could determine any decision on the future. All that speculation has now ended, because the Steelers President Art Rooney just confirmed their backing Ben, but they, along with Ben, are prepared to take any disciplinary action and Ben is prepared to accept whatever it may be and it could be harsh. The Steelers stand behind him in taking the lengthy process for Ben to prove himself to the city of Pittsburgh and earn trust back within the community and also the fans, even though it might take a very, very long time. I guess he deserves this opportunity at the stage of his career to prove and devote the rest of his contract and career to a clean slate and to keeping that clean slate as a Pittsburgh Steeler. One more misstep, he'll be gone within a minute.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:06 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


My emotions are through the roof on this subject.

Many, many mixed signals out there that could determine any decision on the future. All that speculation has now ended, because the Steelers President Art Rooney just confirmed their backing Ben, but they, along with Ben, are prepared to take any disciplinary action and Ben is prepared to accept whatever it may be and it could be harsh. The Steelers stand behind him in taking the lengthy process for Ben to prove himself to the city of Pittsburgh and earn trust back within the community and also the fans, even though it might take a very, very long time. I guess he deserves this opportunity at the stage of his career to prove and devote the rest of his contract and career to a clean slate and to keeping that clean slate as a Pittsburgh Steeler. One more misstep, he'll be gone within a minute.


I don't know if I fully credit Rooney's candor here. I think if someone called with a good enough offer, they'll at least think heavily about shipping the fatass.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:12 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


My emotions are through the roof on this subject.

Many, many mixed signals out there that could determine any decision on the future. All that speculation has now ended, because the Steelers President Art Rooney just confirmed their backing Ben, but they, along with Ben, are prepared to take any disciplinary action and Ben is prepared to accept whatever it may be and it could be harsh. The Steelers stand behind him in taking the lengthy process for Ben to prove himself to the city of Pittsburgh and earn trust back within the community and also the fans, even though it might take a very, very long time. I guess he deserves this opportunity at the stage of his career to prove and devote the rest of his contract and career to a clean slate and to keeping that clean slate as a Pittsburgh Steeler. One more misstep, he'll be gone within a minute.


I don't know if I fully credit Rooney's candor here. I think if someone called with a good enough offer, they'll at least think heavily about shipping the fatass.


I'm sure it's been discussed, but even though the Rooney's will be THE FIRST owners to have the balls to ship a player like Ben, they are also fair. They will give him ONE last shot at righting the ship and they believe that Ben deserved that opportunity to do so and take a shot at it, but that means 10 solid years being clean. Ben is already reporting to be at the team facility Monday and taking part in team activities. They would tell him to stay as far away as possible if they were going to go through with any trade talks.
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Postby Since 78 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:22 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


My emotions are through the roof on this subject.

Many, many mixed signals out there that could determine any decision on the future. All that speculation has now ended, because the Steelers President Art Rooney just confirmed their backing Ben, but they, along with Ben, are prepared to take any disciplinary action and Ben is prepared to accept whatever it may be and it could be harsh. The Steelers stand behind him in taking the lengthy process for Ben to prove himself to the city of Pittsburgh and earn trust back within the community and also the fans, even though it might take a very, very long time. I guess he deserves this opportunity at the stage of his career to prove and devote the rest of his contract and career to a clean slate and to keeping that clean slate as a Pittsburgh Steeler. One more misstep, he'll be gone within a minute.


I don't know if I fully credit Rooney's candor here. I think if someone called with a good enough offer, they'll at least think heavily about shipping the fatass.


I'm sure it's been discussed, but even though the Rooney's will be THE FIRST owners to have the balls to ship a player like Ben, they are also fair. They will give him ONE last shot at righting the ship and they believe that Ben deserved that opportunity to do so and take a shot at it, but that means 10 solid years being clean. Ben is already reporting to be at the team facility Monday and taking part in team activities. They would tell him to stay as far away as possible if they were going to go through with any trade talks.


The Team should have suspended him Travis, I would rather lose. He is an embarrassment.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:25 pm

Since 78 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


My emotions are through the roof on this subject.

Many, many mixed signals out there that could determine any decision on the future. All that speculation has now ended, because the Steelers President Art Rooney just confirmed their backing Ben, but they, along with Ben, are prepared to take any disciplinary action and Ben is prepared to accept whatever it may be and it could be harsh. The Steelers stand behind him in taking the lengthy process for Ben to prove himself to the city of Pittsburgh and earn trust back within the community and also the fans, even though it might take a very, very long time. I guess he deserves this opportunity at the stage of his career to prove and devote the rest of his contract and career to a clean slate and to keeping that clean slate as a Pittsburgh Steeler. One more misstep, he'll be gone within a minute.


I don't know if I fully credit Rooney's candor here. I think if someone called with a good enough offer, they'll at least think heavily about shipping the fatass.


I'm sure it's been discussed, but even though the Rooney's will be THE FIRST owners to have the balls to ship a player like Ben, they are also fair. They will give him ONE last shot at righting the ship and they believe that Ben deserved that opportunity to do so and take a shot at it, but that means 10 solid years being clean. Ben is already reporting to be at the team facility Monday and taking part in team activities. They would tell him to stay as far away as possible if they were going to go through with any trade talks.


The Team should have suspended him Travis, I would rather lose. He is an embarrassment.


The suspension's coming, for sure.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:30 pm

I don't see anything he's done as a punishable offense. I'd tell the Rooney's to go get checked for Alzheimers, the commisioner to shine my 2 Super Bowl rings and the D.A. to stop wasting my time and go fuck with some cold cases ... preferably Budweiser. :lol: I don't get everyone analyzing and harrassing this guy for doing nothing wrong. :?
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Postby mrsromek » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:37 pm

Again, we see the double standard of professional sports....what if a guy like McNabb or JaMarcus Russell did this? Would they just get a fine, or a possible suspension of two games? I highly doubt it. Then again, McNabb's got a brain under his helmet and wouldn't even put himself in this type of situation.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:48 pm

mrsromek wrote:Again, we see the double standard of professional sports....what if a guy like McNabb or JaMarcus Russell did this? Would they just get a fine, or a possible suspension of two games? I highly doubt it. Then again, McNabb's got a brain under his helmet and wouldn't even put himself in this type of situation.


Exhibit A: O.J. Simpson. Now clam up. :lol: :wink:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:42 am

Since 78 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:The more and more I think about it, the more and more I think Steelers are going to trade Ben next Thursday! Eerie feeling.


It's a tough decision.

On one hand, you guys have your franchise formula which has proved effective in the team's consistency over the years. Trading this douchebag would be very consistent with said policy. Trading the guy now will still get you a lot of value. It's also probably only a matter of time before this dickweed screws up again, and next time, his value will really plummet.


On the other hand, the guy is one of the best QBs in the league and a two-time superbowl winner in a short career, which goes to his said high value right now, his conduct problems notwithstanding. From a pure playing standpoint, it's tough to trade away someone like him in the prime of his career.


My emotions are through the roof on this subject.

Many, many mixed signals out there that could determine any decision on the future. All that speculation has now ended, because the Steelers President Art Rooney just confirmed their backing Ben, but they, along with Ben, are prepared to take any disciplinary action and Ben is prepared to accept whatever it may be and it could be harsh. The Steelers stand behind him in taking the lengthy process for Ben to prove himself to the city of Pittsburgh and earn trust back within the community and also the fans, even though it might take a very, very long time. I guess he deserves this opportunity at the stage of his career to prove and devote the rest of his contract and career to a clean slate and to keeping that clean slate as a Pittsburgh Steeler. One more misstep, he'll be gone within a minute.


I don't know if I fully credit Rooney's candor here. I think if someone called with a good enough offer, they'll at least think heavily about shipping the fatass.


I'm sure it's been discussed, but even though the Rooney's will be THE FIRST owners to have the balls to ship a player like Ben, they are also fair. They will give him ONE last shot at righting the ship and they believe that Ben deserved that opportunity to do so and take a shot at it, but that means 10 solid years being clean. Ben is already reporting to be at the team facility Monday and taking part in team activities. They would tell him to stay as far away as possible if they were going to go through with any trade talks.


The Team should have suspended him Travis, I would rather lose. He is an embarrassment.


Oh, there's NO DOUBT the suspension is on its way, and the Rooney's are reported to be FUCKING PISSED OFF over the matter. They are looking into whether Ben did indeed violate the NFL conduct policy and it looks like HE DID NOT, but the Steelers will suspend him for 2 games. It won't be more because Ben had a CLEAN record before hand and before all of these allegations started. And, you gotta remember, he was NOT charged with ANY crime, so, a 2 game suspension I expect.

As far as embarrassment, agreed 100%. The Rooney's built 76 years of their model franchise off of FACE and morale ALONE and what Ben and Santurdio did was put a blemish on a WELL ROUNDED, all around respectable franchise that does things RIGHT, whichever the situation might be. As a fan, I'm furious that that blemish is there, but will forget about it once Ben hits Ward on their first TD's of the 2010 season, just like Tiger Woods AND Kobe Bryant.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:16 am

This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:33 am

Ehwmatt wrote:This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


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But yet, that woman keeps going back to his house every week and probably took pleasure into slobbing his knob. These women are even nastier than the allegations they spew out of their hole, which ever one it may be. Don't believe everything you read, but once, twice, three times, whatever it is, it's all the same now. All of these woman will come out of the woodwork claiming such things and it will probably go back as far as his days at Miami of Ohio. I just can't wrap my head around it on how fucking stupid a human being can actually be, just nonsense.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:35 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... llegation/


But yet, that woman keeps going back to his house every week and probably took pleasure into slobbing his knob. These women are even nastier than the allegations they spew out of their hole, which ever one it may be. Don't believe everything you read, but once, twice, three times, whatever it is, it's all the same now. All of these woman will come out of the woodwork claiming such things and it will probably go back as far as his days at Miami of Ohio. I just can't wrap my head around it on how fucking stupid a human being can actually be, just nonsense.


Did you read the source? This was only in legal documents that have been released only because the investigation has now closed. This woman did not come out and make her allegations public, nor did she file charges or even threaten to do so. I don't see any incentive for her to be making it up as of now, unless she files charges now that these documents have come out.

It fits the profile.

I do agree on one thing, she's a retard for going back there.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:42 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... llegation/


But yet, that woman keeps going back to his house every week and probably took pleasure into slobbing his knob. These women are even nastier than the allegations they spew out of their hole, which ever one it may be. Don't believe everything you read, but once, twice, three times, whatever it is, it's all the same now. All of these woman will come out of the woodwork claiming such things and it will probably go back as far as his days at Miami of Ohio. I just can't wrap my head around it on how fucking stupid a human being can actually be, just nonsense.


Did you read the source? This was only in legal documents that have been released only because the investigation has now closed. This woman did not come out and make her allegations public, nor did she file charges or even threaten to do so. I don't see any incentive for her to be making it up as of now, unless she files charges now that these documents have come out.

It fits the profile.

I do agree on one thing, she's a retard for going back there.


Ben's at an all vulnerability high and this is the time to press a civil suite and ring it for hush money for any women he's EVER come in contact with. It's eerily similiar to any other sports figure that gets caught up in something. Once something is being blown up within law enforcement and world wide publicity, more 'acts' follow. I'm sure he's banged so many women that we might be able to count in 10's on our hands and feet, but how many women actually went to the police and filed any charges? None. It's just hard to believe every word that comes out of these women's mouth, esp when the story changes ever so often. This GA story already has 3 different types of stories on what happened that night. What do you believe?

The sad thing is, noone will EVER know what has happened other than Roethlisberger, and the accuser. Anything else is he said/she said. What a shame these athletes just DON'T GET IT and probably never will.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:47 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... llegation/


But yet, that woman keeps going back to his house every week and probably took pleasure into slobbing his knob. These women are even nastier than the allegations they spew out of their hole, which ever one it may be. Don't believe everything you read, but once, twice, three times, whatever it is, it's all the same now. All of these woman will come out of the woodwork claiming such things and it will probably go back as far as his days at Miami of Ohio. I just can't wrap my head around it on how fucking stupid a human being can actually be, just nonsense.


Did you read the source? This was only in legal documents that have been released only because the investigation has now closed. This woman did not come out and make her allegations public, nor did she file charges or even threaten to do so. I don't see any incentive for her to be making it up as of now, unless she files charges now that these documents have come out.

It fits the profile.

I do agree on one thing, she's a retard for going back there.


Ben's at an all vulnerability high and this is the time to press a civil suite and ring it for hush money for any women he's EVER come in contact with. It's eerily similiar to any other sports figure that gets caught up in something. Once something is being blown up within law enforcement and world wide publicity, more 'acts' follow. I'm sure he's banged so many women that we might be able to count in 10's on our hands and feet, but how many women actually went to the police and filed any charges? None. It's just hard to believe every word that comes out of these women's mouth, esp when the story changes ever so often. This GA story already has 3 different types of stories on what happened that night. What do you believe?

The sad thing is, noone will EVER know what has happened other than Roethlisberger, and the accuser. Anything else is he said/she said. What a shame these athletes just DON'T GET IT and probably never will.


Actually, I've been reading the statements of the original girl's friends and they are remarkably consistent and ironclad regarding the events leading up to them making it into the bathroom of the club. He and his bodyguards are the lowest of low and I believe he raped her. It's just very hard to prove rape legally under circumstances like these.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:57 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... llegation/


But yet, that woman keeps going back to his house every week and probably took pleasure into slobbing his knob. These women are even nastier than the allegations they spew out of their hole, which ever one it may be. Don't believe everything you read, but once, twice, three times, whatever it is, it's all the same now. All of these woman will come out of the woodwork claiming such things and it will probably go back as far as his days at Miami of Ohio. I just can't wrap my head around it on how fucking stupid a human being can actually be, just nonsense.


Did you read the source? This was only in legal documents that have been released only because the investigation has now closed. This woman did not come out and make her allegations public, nor did she file charges or even threaten to do so. I don't see any incentive for her to be making it up as of now, unless she files charges now that these documents have come out.

It fits the profile.

I do agree on one thing, she's a retard for going back there.


Ben's at an all vulnerability high and this is the time to press a civil suite and ring it for hush money for any women he's EVER come in contact with. It's eerily similiar to any other sports figure that gets caught up in something. Once something is being blown up within law enforcement and world wide publicity, more 'acts' follow. I'm sure he's banged so many women that we might be able to count in 10's on our hands and feet, but how many women actually went to the police and filed any charges? None. It's just hard to believe every word that comes out of these women's mouth, esp when the story changes ever so often. This GA story already has 3 different types of stories on what happened that night. What do you believe?

The sad thing is, noone will EVER know what has happened other than Roethlisberger, and the accuser. Anything else is he said/she said. What a shame these athletes just DON'T GET IT and probably never will.


Actually, I've been reading the statements of the original girl's friends and they are remarkably consistent and ironclad regarding the events leading up to them making it into the bathroom of the club. He and his bodyguards are the lowest of low and I believe he raped her. It's just very hard to prove rape legally under circumstances like these.


One story that's already been filed claims that the woman said that she "stumbled" upon a door and walked into the bathroom unauthorized, and Roethlisberger followed.

Another story says that one of Ben's body guards took her aside, walked her down a hall, and sat her on a stool. The body guard walked away, and Ben walked down the hall and exposed himself.

The story yesterday that came out claims that Ben's security team DRAGGED her into the bathroom with Ben following. The chicks friends then claimed that they were outside of the door pleading that she was drunk and didn't know what was going on. Several minutes later, Ben exited out of the bathroom.

The DA stated that there were major inconsistencies in their story. Her police report was almost non-readable since she was so drunk to the point of a black out stage. Even if Ben did no wrong, the allegations are claiming he is guilty and the general public will obviously take the side of the accuser, but there were several statements out there that are NON- consistent.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:59 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:This is getting worse and worse for the guy. Ben's gonna need to call Tiger for advice soon.

This guy has a serious sexual problem. The chickens need to come home to roost on this scumbag before he really hurts some woman.

The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly pulled down his pants and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.

The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... llegation/


But yet, that woman keeps going back to his house every week and probably took pleasure into slobbing his knob. These women are even nastier than the allegations they spew out of their hole, which ever one it may be. Don't believe everything you read, but once, twice, three times, whatever it is, it's all the same now. All of these woman will come out of the woodwork claiming such things and it will probably go back as far as his days at Miami of Ohio. I just can't wrap my head around it on how fucking stupid a human being can actually be, just nonsense.


Did you read the source? This was only in legal documents that have been released only because the investigation has now closed. This woman did not come out and make her allegations public, nor did she file charges or even threaten to do so. I don't see any incentive for her to be making it up as of now, unless she files charges now that these documents have come out.

It fits the profile.

I do agree on one thing, she's a retard for going back there.


Ben's at an all vulnerability high and this is the time to press a civil suite and ring it for hush money for any women he's EVER come in contact with. It's eerily similiar to any other sports figure that gets caught up in something. Once something is being blown up within law enforcement and world wide publicity, more 'acts' follow. I'm sure he's banged so many women that we might be able to count in 10's on our hands and feet, but how many women actually went to the police and filed any charges? None. It's just hard to believe every word that comes out of these women's mouth, esp when the story changes ever so often. This GA story already has 3 different types of stories on what happened that night. What do you believe?

The sad thing is, noone will EVER know what has happened other than Roethlisberger, and the accuser. Anything else is he said/she said. What a shame these athletes just DON'T GET IT and probably never will.


Actually, I've been reading the statements of the original girl's friends and they are remarkably consistent and ironclad regarding the events leading up to them making it into the bathroom of the club. He and his bodyguards are the lowest of low and I believe he raped her. It's just very hard to prove rape legally under circumstances like these.


One story that's already been filed claims that the woman said that she "stumbled" upon a door and walked into the bathroom unauthorized, and Roethlisberger followed.

Another story says that one of Ben's body guards took her aside, walked her down a hall, and sat her on a stool. The body guard walked away, and Ben walked down the hall and exposed himself.

The story yesterday that came out claims that Ben's security team DRAGGED her into the bathroom with Ben following. The chicks friends then claimed that they were outside of the door pleading that she was drunk and didn't know what was going on. Several minutes later, Ben exited out of the bathroom.

The DA stated that there were major inconsistencies in their story. Her police report was almost non-readable since she was so drunk to the point of a black out stage. Even if Ben did no wrong, the allegations are claiming he is guilty and the general public will obviously take the side of the accuser, but there were several statements out there that are NON- consistent.


Travis, if you go and read the actual now-disclosed RECORD of all that went on, you can see that there was only one substantive version of events, as relayed by the girl's friends. The girl was too drunk to write the first time in her police report, yes, but at no point were her friends ever telling "different stories," according to the record.

The "alternate versions" you hear are things the media, as usual in its irresponsible nature, let slip or put its own spin on based on hearsay.
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