So who has given up?

[Blueskies]

For some years now i have lived in hope of Mr.Perry recording or just maybe touring in some capacity,i know many others have as well.
We have hoped the Sony rumours of a new release would come true, or that Steve had vocal surgery so he could sing again..another rumour.
Well you know what folks i've given up hope and accepted its over, i wonder how many other of the faithfull have also?

Giving up? Here....

Somewhere there's hope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dPkpvphX8


don't give up on him....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC-OLOsFcws


A couple months back I was told by someone who should know to look forward to 2011.
If that info is right or wrong, who knows. I'm patiently waiting to see.....after that I'll give up.

[annpea]

I havn't given yet; I'm still holding on

[ohsherrie]

Given up what?

IMHO, Perry doesn't owe us a damn thing.

He has given us really great music and a big part of his life.

The rest of it is his.

Anything he decides to share with us now is just icing on the cake.

..... and I get to lick it off ----- sorry - got carried away there for a minute.

Cat

Still the voice of sanity.

[CatEyes]

Given up what?

IMHO, Perry doesn't owe us a damn thing.

He has given us really great music and a big part of his life.

The rest of it is his.

Anything he decides to share with us now is just icing on the cake.

..... and I get to lick it off ----- sorry - got carried away there for a minute.

Cat

Still the voice of sanity.

Be careful, girl.

People will question YOUR sanity

Good to see you again.

Cat

[Ftloperry]

Does Perry owe us anything? If he would just keep his damn mouth shut no he does not owe us anything. However he refuses to do so. He owes us going out gracefully. He has given more than his fair share of memories to all of us. Stop with the so called recording sessions, and the comments, and the writing sessions. When you give interviews only talk about the past and blow off any talk of the future unless you plan on following through.

I spoke with a writer who wrote a handful of songs with him a few years back and blogged about it. Then the blog was edited to omit that section. He said that all writing sessions are with the understanding that the songs are not to be used w/o Perry's permission and that he would prefer to keep them private. So there is the potential that all this great music is out there sitting on a shelf. At least let someone record these songs.

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything! He has already given a big chunk of his life to music and to the fans over the years he sang and performed. He is a singer/songwriter and those feelings are something that will stay with him till the day he dies. In interviews he can talk or sing to his hearts content about studio sessions and writing sessions; it's in his blood....it's not something that an artist can just forget and stop doing. It's his songs....his words put to paper and if he decides that he doesn't want share them now or ever that is his choice.

[Since 78]

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything!

Ever notice how you all start out with the same line? It should be the official Loon signature.

[Michigan Girl]

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything!

Ever notice how you all start out with the same line? It should be the official Loon signature.

Ever notice how much time you spend in loon land listening to it?!?!
You must be growing tired of the Pinhead Pining!!

[Since 78]

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything!

Ever notice how you all start out with the same line? It should be the official Loon signature.

Ever notice how much time you spend in loon land listening to it?!?!
You must be growing tired of the Pinhead Pining!!

Maybe... but my Pining will eventually be rewarded!

As much as I would like for it to happen, Perry is done.

[Art Vandelay]

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything!

Ever notice how you all start out with the same line? It should be the official Loon signature.

Seriously - that would make for a great bumper sticker or t-shirt

[Saint John]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

[Rockindeano]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

Come on now Dan...they were awesome to be sure, but ever? That's a stretch. Neal himself would roll his eyes on that one, and cringe at the same time.

[Saint John]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

Come on now Dan...they were awesome to be sure, but ever? That's a stretch. Neal himself would roll his eyes on that one, and cringe at the same time.

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

[Rockindeano]

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

I can argue this for the sake of posting some decent traffic in this shithole forum(pics of Steve- give me a fucking break).

Freddie and Brian May were pretty good, and had better songwriting. Led Zeppelin are always hard to beat. Mick and Keith are always at the top. Ever heard of Paul McCartney, John Lennon and George Harrison? Yes Dan, I am guilty of saying the same exact thing you have just said, but I was sorely tunnel visioned in my thoughts. I do think Perry is the greatest male voice ever recorded sans Elvis Presely. Neal is darned good, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix, Page, EVH, etc. Smith was great, but with the cheesy sing alongs, how important is a drummer? I mean, look at Castronovo? He is a good drummer, but hardly great. Basically anyone can drum the Journey catalog, even fucking Ringo Starr or Max Weinberg.

[parfait]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

They're not the greatest band in the world. Never been or will be. Toto is far ahead of Journey musically. Dire Straits is better also better. But the thing with Journey is that, besides the obvious flaws that is Ross Valory and the cliché wedding picture songs, SP and Neal created a magic that's completely unparalleled. Patiently for example; that's magic right there. No other band that I know of got that.

It's too bad Steve Smith studied with Freddie Gruber so late in his Journey career though. Cause his drumming on Trial by Fire kicks ass! Deano, not a lot of drummers out there could lay down a groove on TBF like Smith does. Steve Gadd and Jeff Porcaro could, but not a lot more.

[Saint John]

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

I can argue this for the sake of posting some decent traffic in this shithole forum(pics of Steve- give me a fucking break).

Freddie and Brian May were pretty good, and had better songwriting. Led Zeppelin are always hard to beat. Mick and Keith are always at the top. Ever heard of Paul McCartney, John Lennon and George Harrison? Yes Dan, I am guilty of saying the same exact thing you have just said, but I was sorely tunnel visioned in my thoughts. I do think Perry is the greatest male voice ever recorded sans Elvis Presely. Neal is darned good, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix, Page, EVH, etc. Smith was great, but with the cheesy sing alongs, how important is a drummer? I mean, look at Castronovo? He is a good drummer, but hardly great. Basically anyone can drum the Journey catalog, even fucking Ringo Starr or Max Weinberg.

Yeah, but none of the acts/artists you mentioned could bring it live like Journey did. Add in what Herbie brought in the form of the fan club, the giant screens and the lighting, and you have an unparalleled act.

[Jana]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

Come on now Dan...they were awesome to be sure, but ever? That's a stretch. Neal himself would roll his eyes on that one, and cringe at the same time.

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

They were so, so close, but the Best Band early 80s and especially mid 80s - U2 - So much of heir best work was in the early eighties, even though I love the mid 80s with Joshua Tree, etc.

1983 - Live Bad http://www.youtube.com/v/CuHRQK9LhS8&hl=en

What a song: New Year's Day - http://www.youtube.com/v/yXC0BW-mGD0&hl=en

Live Pride (In The Name of Love) - http://www.youtube.com/v/r8Pnlhs7grQ&hl=en

[Art Vandelay]

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

I can argue this for the sake of posting some decent traffic in this shithole forum(pics of Steve- give me a fucking break).

Freddie and Brian May were pretty good, and had better songwriting. Led Zeppelin are always hard to beat. Mick and Keith are always at the top. Ever heard of Paul McCartney, John Lennon and George Harrison? Yes Dan, I am guilty of saying the same exact thing you have just said, but I was sorely tunnel visioned in my thoughts. I do think Perry is the greatest male voice ever recorded sans Elvis Presely. Neal is darned good, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix, Page, EVH, etc. Smith was great, but with the cheesy sing alongs, how important is a drummer? I mean, look at Castronovo? He is a good drummer, but hardly great. Basically anyone can drum the Journey catalog, even fucking Ringo Starr or Max Weinberg.

Anyone can drum to it now, but it takes talent and creativity to invent it. Smith brought a feel to the music that most other rock drummers wouldn't even imagine doing. His approach to Faithfully is pretty amazing. Very subdued and perfect fills. Very similar to what Nigel Ollsen did on Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me. May be boring to some, but genius to those who understand the approach.

[Rockindeano]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

Come on now Dan...they were awesome to be sure, but ever? That's a stretch. Neal himself would roll his eyes on that one, and cringe at the same time.

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

They were so, so close, but the Best Band early 80s and especially mid 80s - U2 - So much of heir best work was in the early eighties, even though I love the mid 80s with Joshua Tree, etc.

1983 - Live Bad http://www.youtube.com/v/CuHRQK9LhS8&hl=en

What a song: New Year's Day - http://www.youtube.com/v/yXC0BW-mGD0&hl=en

Live Pride (In The Name of Love) - http://www.youtube.com/v/r8Pnlhs7grQ&hl=en

Uh Jana, nuh uh. U2 was awesome, but as for talent, I would have to say they are floors and floors lower than a lot of bands, including Journey. Come on now, as great as Bono is, the Edge sucks compared to Schon. Hell, if you look at the 80's, U2 wasn't the best band...one can argue they are more popular now then they were in the 80's! I don't think(all bias aside), U2 paled to Springsteen, The Stones or the Police. Like I said, Bono is awesome, but you can't seriously put the fuckin Edge up against the best guitarists in music?

[Saint John]

U2

[Jana]

Meh, who gives a crap it is an amazing dvd and live album?
78 is merely pointing something out.

I'm guilty of bashing p (I believe righteously) and rockheadedly and wrongly accused of cheerleading for the band but allow me to impart this:

Absent the third lead singer of Journey's initiative I don't feel that we would have that show in state of the art digital sound and video right now, I mean look what the hell he did with that concert.

The release is first class.

I appreciate it, and based on sales so did we fans.

My point exactly. Lots of effort went into that production and I haven't read one bad critique from the fans about it. Yeah, it's not new material, but it's the perfect showcase of what he and the band did together at the height of their career.

No arguments here. I still say that Journey, from 1980-1983, is the greatest band ever.

Come on now Dan...they were awesome to be sure, but ever? That's a stretch. Neal himself would roll his eyes on that one, and cringe at the same time.

No band ever had a singer, drummer and guitarist like that. Add Cain's penchant for melody and Ross's ... squirt gun mic stand and you have it all. And you can't discount Herbie and all of the innovations he gave to the concert goers. Best band ever.

They were so, so close, but the Best Band early 80s and especially mid 80s - U2 - So much of heir best work was in the early eighties, even though I love the mid 80s with Joshua Tree, etc.

1983 - Live Bad http://www.youtube.com/v/CuHRQK9LhS8&hl=en

What a song: New Year's Day - http://www.youtube.com/v/yXC0BW-mGD0&hl=en

Live Pride (In The Name of Love) - http://www.youtube.com/v/r8Pnlhs7grQ&hl=en

Uh Jana, nuh uh. U2 was awesome, but as for talent, I would have to say they are floors and floors lower than a lot of bands, including Journey. Come on now, as great as Bono is, the Edge sucks compared to Schon. Hell, if you look at the 80's, U2 wasn't the best band...one can argue they are more popular now then they were in the 80's! I don't think(all bias aside), U2 paled to Springsteen, The Stones or the Police. Like I said, Bono is awesome, but you can't seriously put the fuckin Edge up against the best guitarists in music?

As a whole in that time they were the best for me. The Edge is a minimalist guitarist but helped create their signature sound. They were very original and great live act. Put out great albums with amazing songs in the early to late 80s.

[Rockindeano]

U2

Tell you what. I'll book U2 and you book Journey. Care to wager on who will pay more taxes?

U2 is an amazing band Dan.

[Michigan Girl]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

[Rockindeano]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

I don't MG. I prefer the Perry Journey leaps and bounds over U2, but today...that's the argument I was making with Dan.

[Michigan Girl]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

I don't MG. I prefer the Perry Journey leaps and bounds over U2, but today...that's the argument I was making with Dan.

Oh, I definitely agree!!
Comprehension skills 04/28/10= -10

[Since 78]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

+1

Jana, please turn in your Journey/Neal Schon/Pinhead card immediately !

[Jana]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

+1

Jana, please turn in your Journey/Neal Schon/Pinhead card immediately !

I'm speaking of my emotions back then, and for that time, looking back, U2 was it over Journey, but I said it was close. . U2 was my band and brought something so new and fresh to the musical landscape and great lyrically. Amazing, great songwriting, love their melodies. They are one of the greatest bands, ever. I love alternative rock and British and Irish bands and will always learn more towards that. Now, who do I listen to more NOW and appreciate? Journey, probably , over U2 and am completely amazed by the Journey sound, guitar/voice.

[Since 78]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

+1

Jana, please turn in your Journey/Neal Schon/Pinhead card immediately !

I'm speaking of my emotions back then, and for that time, looking back, U2 was it over Journey, but I said it was close. . U2 was my band and brought something so new and fresh to the musical landscape and great lyrically. Amazing, great songwriting, love their melodies. They are one of the greatest bands, ever. I love alternative rock and British and Irish bands and will always learn more towards that. Now, who do I listen to more NOW and appreciate? Journey, probably , over U2 and am completely amazed by the Journey sound, guitar/voice.

Yeah, I really like U2 a lot also, but over Journey? Never at any point. Its a close call, but I guess you can hang around still!

[Jana]

It's still a matter of opinion, taste and talent!! Perry fronted Journey beats U2 hands down in the talent dept.!!
If Jana and RD prefer U2 ...that's ok, they are great!!

+1

Jana, please turn in your Journey/Neal Schon/Pinhead card immediately !

I'm speaking of my emotions back then, and for that time, looking back, U2 was it over Journey, but I said it was close. . U2 was my band and brought something so new and fresh to the musical landscape and great lyrically. Amazing, great songwriting, love their melodies. They are one of the greatest bands, ever. I love alternative rock and British and Irish bands and will always learn more towards that. Now, who do I listen to more NOW and appreciate? Journey, probably , over U2 and am completely amazed by the Journey sound, guitar/voice.

Yeah, I really like U2 a lot also, but over Journey? Never at any point. Its a close call, but I guess you can hang around still!

Thanks. My Bono crush and all through the 80s and 90s might have had something to do with it. I was hooked b/c of With or Without You. It blinded me to Perry's vocal superiority melded with Neal's guitar.

[Red13JoePa]

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything!

Ever notice how you all start out with the same line? It should be the official Loon signature.

..I love this too.
It's like, "gotta get that in their to curry favor w/ Stephen and his handlers!!"
You know GD well if they knew where he was they'd be stampeeding tearing Kinison limb from olimb.

[Saint John]

Steve Perry doesn't owe you, me or anyone anything!

Ever notice how you all start out with the same line? It should be the official Loon signature.

..I love this too.
It's like, "gotta get that in their to curry favor w/ Stephen and his handlers!!"
You know GD well if they knew where he was they'd be stampeeding tearing Kinison limb from olimb.

The one good thing Nostrildamus has going for him is that he seems pretty health conscience and probably stays out of the vicinity of buffet style restaurants. I just wonder if that's to stay healthy or avoid the vast majority of his fans.

The use of "Stephen" by his fans has always been nothing more than a screaming memo that you're dealing with a person that's somewhere between Richard Speck and Charles Manson on the sanity scale.