Oil Spill Devastation

[strangegrey]

Sad that we have a president as inept as Bush in the face of natural disaster.

It takes a real big man to use this as a leapfrog excuse to preach oil regulation.











You know what? It takes a Bigger man to roll up his fucking sleeves, get involved and help with the cleanup.














A bigger man, our piece of shit president, he is not.

[7 Wishes]

Regulation of this industry is henceforth perfectly validated.

Obama has taken only 20% of the vacation days that Dubbya did. If he went to the Gulf and actually "pitched in" you'd lambast him for not being behind the wheel in Washington.

You can't have it both ways, dude.

[Lula]

You know what? It takes a Bigger man to roll up his fucking sleeves, get involved and help with the cleanup.

presidential photo-ops are the last thing needed right now. the coast guard was deployed within hours. like the wall street crash this is more deregulation come home to roost.

[strangegrey]

You know what? It takes a Bigger man to roll up his fucking sleeves, get involved and help with the cleanup.

presidential photo-ops are the last thing needed right now. the coast guard was deployed within hours. like the wall street crash this is more deregulation come home to roost.

presidential photo ops? who said anything about posing in front of an oil spill?

What has this man done except complain about lack of regulation?

Who's to say regulation would have prevented this accident in the first place?


Btw, 7....
Obama hasn't had a term that's 20% of Bush's yet.....yet he's played far more golf.....sounds like Hussein is on his way to really clocking in the comp time!

[Lula]

presidential photo ops? who said anything about posing in front of an oil spill?

What has this man done except complain about lack of regulation?

Who's to say regulation would have prevented this accident in the first place?


Btw, 7....
Obama hasn't had a term that's 20% of Bush's yet.....yet he's played far more golf.....sounds like Hussein is on his way to really clocking in the comp time!

obama's presence on the ground would only attract more media attention. let the professionals cleaning up the mess continue doing their jobs. they are the real heroes. we don't need any more politicians having a self-serving katrina flyover moment.

[RossValoryRocks]

Regulation of this industry is henceforth perfectly validated.

Obama has taken only 20% of the vacation days that Dubbya did. If he went to the Gulf and actually "pitched in" you'd lambast him for not being behind the wheel in Washington.

You can't have it both ways, dude.

Presidents in the modern age are NEVER on vacation. EVER. Not Bush, not Obama, not Clinton NONE of them since maybe the time of Hoove, the world moves much to fast now for it.

Regulate all you want...no amount of regulation would have prevented the accident. Maybe (kind of like gun laws and immigration) a little enforcement of existing regulation would have caught it? Adding mountains and mountains of regulation that is not enforced does nothing but add to the bloated Federal bureaucracy that accomplishes so little but costs so much.

The new Dept of Oil Drilling Safety (my made up bureaucracy) will be able to do nothing quite effectively on a shoestring budget of $60 billion per year.

Oh did I mention it will also be funded by the new $1.00 per gallon tax on gasoline...that increases by 10% year for the next 5 years...and then (wink wink nudge nudge) will be dropped as a tax (Like the telecommunications act that was to "pay for the Spanish/American War and was in place about 100 years).

And even though I don't believe in conspiracy theories...I do find a bit suspicious that this happened with in a few weeks of the President announcing his new Offshore Drilling plan...

[7 Wishes]

Btw, 7....
Obama hasn't had a term that's 20% of Bush's yet.....yet he's played far more golf.....sounds like Hussein is on his way to really clocking in the comp time!

You're a major league idiot.

That comparison was based on after serving the same number of days in office.

Nice try, hatemonger.

[G.I.Jim]

presidential photo ops? who said anything about posing in front of an oil spill?

What has this man done except complain about lack of regulation?

Who's to say regulation would have prevented this accident in the first place?


Btw, 7....
Obama hasn't had a term that's 20% of Bush's yet.....yet he's played far more golf.....sounds like Hussein is on his way to really clocking in the comp time!

obama's presence on the ground would only attract more media attention. let the professionals cleaning up the mess continue doing their jobs. they are the real heroes. we don't need any more politicians having a self-serving katrina flyover moment.

When there's a national emergency... it's the president's JOB to be visible and be present. Bush stood at the WTC in the rubble not for a photo op, but to let the American people know that it was going to be ok. He didn't have to do it, and it was EXTREMELY dangerous for him to do it. He flew over Katrina to observe the damage first hand and to let the America know that they had our complete support. He flew to nearly every town that was devastated by floods, hurricanes and tornados. Why? Because he's the freaking President and it was his JOB!

How much fuss was raised by the Democrats EVERY time he went to his ranch for some R&R? He didn't take near as much as Obama, yet Obama gets a free pass. The only things Obama gets on camera for is to apologize to other nations for us being great. He apologizes to the Mexican president for us offending illegal immigrants. Give me a fucking break!

It's OUR fault that the drug cartels over there use our own weapons against our farmers and innocent civilians. I think we should ban ALL guns so it doesn't happen again.

And what's with shit-for-brains explaining to the Chinese government that it's ok if China has human rights issues, because we have a discrimination problem in our own country. I can't WAIT to get these fucking retards out of office!

[RossValoryRocks]

Btw, 7....
Obama hasn't had a term that's 20% of Bush's yet.....yet he's played far more golf.....sounds like Hussein is on his way to really clocking in the comp time!

You're a major league idiot.

That comparison was based on after serving the same number of days in office.

Nice try, hatemonger.

Man you have REALLY gone off the deepend of the Liberal Smear machine haven't you??? You know the play book that says if you cannot beat them with facts, smear them with epithets like "hatemonger" and, oh I love this one, "racist" and everything else that trys to marginalize something you disagree with.

The only "hatemonger" or "racist" is the person who uses these words in a political discussion as some way to defend his or her patently narrow view, i.e. YOU.

[The_Noble_Cause]

When there's a national emergency... it's the president's JOB to be visible and be present. Bush stood at the WTC in the rubble not for a photo op, but to let the American people know that it was going to be ok. He didn't have to do it, and it was EXTREMELY dangerous for him to do it. He flew over Katrina to observe the damage first hand and to let the America know that they had our complete support. He flew to nearly every town that was devastated by floods, hurricanes and tornados. Why? Because he's the freaking President and it was his JOB!

That only applies if you believe the President is supposed to be your daddy. Personally, I just need to know that the appropriate first responders and officials have been in regular contact with the President. We have that. In the short term, I fail to see what good it does for Obama to show up and clean an oil-bathed pelican or a sea turtle with a toothbrush. Obama is letting BP take care of their problem. Anything more than that and critics would be screaming that gov't is meddling with private business and attempting to nationalize the oil industry. Whether its BP engineers or federal task force engineers on the case, what difference does it make? There's obviously no easy fix.

And the gulf leak is not comparable to 9-11. For fuck's sake man, get a hold of yourself.

How much fuss was raised by the Democrats EVERY time he went to his ranch for some R&R? He didn't take near as much as Obama, yet Obama gets a free pass.

I don't think you're right on this.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/presid ... tion-days/

[RossValoryRocks]

That only applies if you believe the President is supposed to be your daddy.

Glad you don't think that is the case, but a vast majority of people on the left DO. Add to this the fact that if Bush did show up that he would have been excoriated for it.

Personally, I just need to know that the appropriate first responders and officials have been in regular contact with the President. We have that. In the short term, I fail to see what good it does for Obama to show up and clean an oil-bathed pelican or a sea turtle with a toothbrush. Obama is letting BP take care of their problem. Anything more than that and critics would be screaming that gov't is meddling with private industry and attempting to nationalize the oil industry. Whether its BP engineers or federal task force engineers on the case, what difference does it make? There's obviously no easy fix.

Which is how it is supposed to be; let the experts handle it. The Federal Government, hell government in general, has no expertise to do anything other than spend our money, and blow shit up via our military. They do those things VERY well...everything else is a clusterfuck as we saw with Katrina.

And the gulf leak is not comparable to 9-11.

You wouldn't know it by the mass hysteria over the whole thing that has gripped the rabid left in this country.

[ScarabGator]

I find it old and tired to see people bashing Obama or Bush for this shit. That does nothing to fix anything, just creates a target to vent our anger on. Let's face it, Obama's skin color itself is enough to get a lot of your average red-blooded American rednecks enraged at him. But I have yet to see him fuck up as bad as Bush did... not even close.

So I fit the stereotype of the "average red-blooded American rednecks" racist since I live in the south and did not/will not vote for obama. Since when did I refer to his skin color? That was you on this post my man, go back and read-race was NEVER brought up. I can say in all honesty that I dont give a shit what your skin color is. I have friends of all ethnics, origins, and whatever witches brew you wanna whip up. It just so happens I am a registered republican and thats what I believe in.
Its really a big pile of horse shit when someone wants to start throwing skin color into this. Ought to be ashamed.

[Babyblue]

I find it old and tired to see people bashing Obama or Bush for this shit. That does nothing to fix anything, just creates a target to vent our anger on. Let's face it, Obama's skin color itself is enough to get a lot of your average red-blooded American rednecks enraged at him. But I have yet to see him fuck up as bad as Bush did... not even close.

I could care less about his color Just get in and do something to try and stop it.

[Babyblue]

I find it old and tired to see people bashing Obama or Bush for this shit. That does nothing to fix anything, just creates a target to vent our anger on. Let's face it, Obama's skin color itself is enough to get a lot of your average red-blooded American rednecks enraged at him. But I have yet to see him fuck up as bad as Bush did... not even close.

So I fit the stereotype of the "average red-blooded American rednecks" racist since I live in the south and did not/will not vote for obama. Since when did I refer to his skin color? That was you on this post my man, go back and read-race was NEVER brought up. I can say in all honesty that I dont give a shit what your skin color is. I have friends of all ethnics, origins, and whatever witches brew you wanna whip up. It just so happens I am a registered republican and thats what I believe in.
Its really a big pile of horse shit when someone wants to start throwing skin color into this. Ought to be ashamed.

I agree gator

[strangegrey]

obama's presence on the ground would only attract more media attention. let the professionals cleaning up the mess continue doing their jobs. they are the real heroes. we don't need any more politicians having a self-serving katrina flyover moment.

Bullshit...and nice try hoping to explain away Obama's lack of action here.

It's not working.


Not once should he be pointing fingers until this mess is cleaned up. Do you start the arson investigation why the house is still ablaze? No!

He's using this for political gain...in a most egregious way. A clear piece of shit.....I thought clinton's aptly timing bosnia missle strikes during the Lewinsky affair was bad enough...

[brywool]

I find it old and tired to see people bashing Obama or Bush for this shit. That does nothing to fix anything...

'Nuff said. Blaming the left or the right is what's wrong. Everybody's so busy blaming that NOTHING gets done.

[Lula]

obama's presence on the ground would only attract more media attention. let the professionals cleaning up the mess continue doing their jobs. they are the real heroes. we don't need any more politicians having a self-serving katrina flyover moment.

Bullshit...and nice try hoping to explain away Obama's lack of action here.

It's not working.

the coast guard and federal scientists and engineers are all racing around the clock to help solve the leak. that is action. obama has chosen to let bp oversee their own clean up. as someone who believes that government cant run a two car parade, this hands off laissez faire approach should be right up your alley.

[Saint John]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

[RocknRoll]

obama's presence on the ground would only attract more media attention. let the professionals cleaning up the mess continue doing their jobs. they are the real heroes. we don't need any more politicians having a self-serving katrina flyover moment.

Bullshit...and nice try hoping to explain away Obama's lack of action here.

It's not working.

the coast guard and federal scientists and engineers are all racing around the clock to help solve the leak. that is action. obama has chosen to let bp oversee their own clean up. as someone who believes that government cant run a two car parade, this hands off laissez faire approach should be right up your alley.

Almost absolutely right Lula. They have the absolutely the smartest guys in the entire industry woking on trying to fix this, they know what the issues are.

Keep Washington out of it right now untill they get it handled. Washington does nothing but try for headlines.

[7 Wishes]

Strangegrey, you ignoramus.

Lack of action? You really do try to manipulate the truth into "the truth" for the convenience of building your house of lies, don't you? First it was the Dubbya vacation days issue (at this point in his Presidency, W. had taken 69 vacation days as opposed to 26 for Obama). Now you're saying the President who has thrown more resources towards helping get this mess fixed, and who is being criticized by many Teabaggers and Republicans for applying "too much" pressure on BP and Haliburton, than Dubbya did for the Katrina victims, is not doing enough? Seriously, fuck you.

[Blueskies]

I find it old and tired to see people bashing Obama or Bush for this shit. That does nothing to fix anything...

'Nuff said. Blaming the left or the right is what's wrong. Everybody's so busy blaming that NOTHING gets done.

Once again, I agree. First and foremost BP, TransOcean and Haliburton are who should be getting the majority of the wrath right now. Put the pressure on those who caused the mess to get it cleaned up and to clean it up right.

[Blueskies]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

[Rick]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

This isn't going to be pleasant.

[Blueskies]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

This isn't going to be pleasant.

Hey! I took the high road and held back the impulse to write what I was really thinking
so give me credit for keeping the peace, you schutt stirrer!

[Rick]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

This isn't going to be pleasant.

Hey! I took the high road and held back the impulse to write what I was really thinking
so give me credit for keeping the peace, you schutt stirrer!

I'm not trying to stir anything, just....well, you know what I know, and Dan will eventually respond, so I think I'm going to go hide and watch.

[Blueskies]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

This isn't going to be pleasant.

Hey! I took the high road and held back the impulse to write what I was really thinking
so give me credit for keeping the peace, you schutt stirrer!

I'm not trying to stir anything, just....well, you know what I know, and Dan will eventually respond, so I think I'm going to go hide and watch.

I was teasing ya. Naaawww... He'll go to the Immigrant thread and think " Where's my post?" and then jump onto Andrew for deleting.


besides, I won't be around this weekend.....and tonight I'm about to head out the door. Enjoy your weekend, Mr. Rick.

[strangegrey]

Only a month after the fact, he's 'beginning to take charge'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100 ... hy/3512921


Gotta love the gargantuan pass that the media gives this piece of shit......


He's spent a month pointing fingers and applying blame and showing where he's going to put his boot.


If he were such an environmentalist, he'd have been 'taking charge' the same day....not a month later.


Leadership is null and void in Washington. Can't wait till November....gonna be a bloodbath. Only one left will be the hag.....

[Saint John]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

Thanks for that bit of wisdom, Jezebel. It's pretty much on par with your intelligence level. It's also quite fucking obvious that when God showered humanity with intelligence you were holding an umbrella.

[Blueskies]

We should demand that all illegals leave the country within 12 months, hold Mexico accountable for its border-crossing criminals, and declare war on them if they don't do anything about it. Why does everyone gloss over the fact that approximately 10,000 people are murdered every year in this country by illegal, border-crossing criminals?!?! Seems to me that "war" has already been declared!

This isn't the Illegal Immigrant thread.

Thanks for that bit of wisdom, Jezebel. It's pretty much on par with your intelligence level. It's also quite fucking obvious that when God showered humanity with intelligence you were holding an umbrella.

I'm not the one posting about the wrong topic in the wrong thread.

[Blueskies]

This really does need to get back on topic if y'all could.
I'm going out to find some oil slick free water if I can and go kayaking. Hope everyone has a good weekend.