Melissa Etheridge Getting Divorced

[Don]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

[StevePerryHair]

Wonder what Lou Diamond Phillips thinks...?


later~

Call me stupid, but I don't get it. I forgot... What happened to him?

Jim.. have I every told you that you are really stupid

Nope... I'm still waiting.

nah, I can't

Just because your pretty, that doesn't mean you can get sassy!

Well i dont know about pretty, but I was born sassy!! MG knows!! Ask her!!!

[Jana]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

From what I've read, people like Sushi who carry on too much about gays are hiding something.

[The Sushi Hunter]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

Um, well let's see. You weren't his son... and he thought you were hot? I do however think your mom's reaction was wrong. YOU were the one uncomfortable and it was unfair to make you feel that you did something wrong by reacting that you were not interested. You did nothing wrong.

If I was a stranger I could understand, but this guy was our family friend since I was a baby. The dude was like a family member to me. It sorta kinda reminds me sort of what happened in the Woody Allen family.

[Jana]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

Um, well let's see. You weren't his son... and he thought you were hot? I do however think your mom's reaction was wrong. YOU were the one uncomfortable and it was unfair to make you feel that you did something wrong by reacting that you were not interested. You did nothing wrong.

If I was a stranger I could understand, but this guy was our family friend since I was a baby. The dude was like a family member to me. It sorta kinda reminds me sort of what happened in the Woody Allen family.

Woody Allen was gay?

[Ehwmatt]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

Assuming a regular adoption and not some in vitro bullshit, it's not "their own child" any more than a stepdaughter is a twisted stepfather's "own child." Just sayin.

Yeah, you must not know too many adoptive parents

I don't necessarily agree with what SH is saying/assuming. Of course a loving adopting couple sees the child as "their own," wasn't trying to say they wouldn't or shouldn't. But, the point is, remove biology from the equation, and deviate sexual proclivities are much easier to act on, just as a stepdaughter coming onto her stepfather or vice versa could break one of the other parties down easier.

Now, I'm not assuming that they are all going to molest their adopted children or try to turn them gay. I just think there are a whole plethora of reasons why gays shouldn't be anywhere near raising kids. There are so many problems with that scenario, including plenty of external problems and long-term mental issues that can crop up. I don't have time or the desire to get into all of the things I see happening. But, suffice to say, many gays are very confused, emotionally distraught people to the point of not even quite being able to figure out their own sexuality for a long time or even ever (enter the gay politicians who marry+have families etc). There's just too many strange things and misconceptions that a kid raised in even the most loving of gay homes faces, let alone the external social problems it will cause the kid, particuarly in his younger years. I wouldn't wish being raised in a gay household on my worst enemy.

[StevePerryHair]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

Assuming a regular adoption and not some in vitro bullshit, it's not "their own child" any more than a stepdaughter is a twisted stepfather's "own child." Just sayin.

Yeah, you must not know too many adoptive parents

I don't necessarily agree with what SH is saying/assuming. Of course a loving adopting couple sees the child as "their own," wasn't trying to say they wouldn't or shouldn't. But, the point is, remove biology from the equation, and deviate sexual proclivities are much easier to act on, just as a stepdaughter coming onto her stepfather or vice versa could break one of the other parties down easier.

Now, I'm not assuming that they are all going to molest their adopted children or try to turn them gay. I just think there are a whole plethora of reasons why gays shouldn't be anywhere near raising kids. There are so many problems with that scenario, including plenty of external problems and long-term mental issues that can crop up. I don't have time or the desire to get into all of the things I see happening. But, suffice to say, many gays are very confused, emotionally distraught people to the point of not even quite being able to figure out their own sexuality for a long time or even ever (enter the gay politicians who marry+have families etc). There's just too many strange things and misconceptions that a kid raised in even the most loving of gay homes faces, let alone the external social problems it will cause the kid, particuarly in his younger years. I wouldn't wish being raised in a gay household on my worst enemy.

Well there could be some truth to what you say...... but there are a LOT of effed up straight homes. A LOT of them. And emotionally unstable people are everywhere. It's society today. Not a gay thing necessarily.

[Jana]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

Assuming a regular adoption and not some in vitro bullshit, it's not "their own child" any more than a stepdaughter is a twisted stepfather's "own child." Just sayin.

Yeah, you must not know too many adoptive parents

I don't necessarily agree with what SH is saying/assuming. Of course a loving adopting couple sees the child as "their own," wasn't trying to say they wouldn't or shouldn't. But, the point is, remove biology from the equation, and deviate sexual proclivities are much easier to act on, just as a stepdaughter coming onto her stepfather or vice versa could break one of the other parties down easier.

Now, I'm not assuming that they are all going to molest their adopted children or try to turn them gay. I just think there are a whole plethora of reasons why gays shouldn't be anywhere near raising kids. There are so many problems with that scenario, including plenty of external problems and long-term mental issues that can crop up. I don't have time or the desire to get into all of the things I see happening. But, suffice to say, many gays are very confused, emotionally distraught people to the point of not even quite being able to figure out their own sexuality for a long time or even ever (enter the gay politicians who marry+have families etc). There's just too many strange things and misconceptions that a kid raised in even the most loving of gay homes faces, let alone the external social problems it will cause the kid, particuarly in his younger years. I wouldn't wish being raised in a gay household on my worst enemy.

You would think that would be true, that any person with deviant behavior towards a child would be more likely to act upon that urge with an adopted child than biological, but when I worked in juvenile family court a lot years ago, when the children would have to be taken into protective custody at first, and a hearing would be had, only once was the child adopted. All others were biological.

[steveo777]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

There was a guy in Reno, NV. that ended up on a casino floor with a bloody nose for pulling that shit on me. It was back in 1997 and I remember it clear as day. It was mid summer, about 85 degrees out and I was wearing khaki shorts, t-shirt and sandals. I was playing blackjack when this average looking, probably 35 year old guy sits down, buys in and starts playing. At the first shuffle he starts making small talk, you know...where ya from...married?, etc. Just news, weather sports kind of stuff. He seemed like a normal guy till a couple drinks later and several rounds of cards played out. I noticed his voice had switched to a decidedly effeminate one, with a bit of a lisp. He was telling about all his bad experiences with women and how his last one left him saddled with a bunch of debt, etc. While he was talking he put his hand on my thigh. I said don't do that! Long story short, the dealer had been watching this going on and on and about the 4th time of this guy doing this, I looked up at the dealer and he gave me this funny sort of nod. I took my right elbo and hit the guy right in the mouth / nose and layed him right out on the floor. Ambulace came...security came, etc. The dealer told the cops what the guy was doing and nothing further became of it for me. They questioned me a bit then left.

[Michigan Girl]

Wonder what Lou Diamond Phillips thinks...?


later~

Call me stupid, but I don't get it. I forgot... What happened to him?

Uh, his wife dumped him for some box named Melissa..

Yeah, and was she really ever gay?!?
Isn't she married to a man again?!?!

[StevePerryHair]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

Um, well let's see. You weren't his son... and he thought you were hot? I do however think your mom's reaction was wrong. YOU were the one uncomfortable and it was unfair to make you feel that you did something wrong by reacting that you were not interested. You did nothing wrong.

If I was a stranger I could understand, but this guy was our family friend since I was a baby. The dude was like a family member to me. It sorta kinda reminds me sort of what happened in the Woody Allen family.

I understand that. And while I question the morality of what he chose to try that night. And with your parents there too. I mean it has wrong written all over it. But being a close family friend is still not the same as being their child they actually raised. You did not grow up in their house nurtured since you were a baby. And you were of age. Wrong, but I still don't agree with your leap you took with that.

[The Sushi Hunter]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

Um, well let's see. You weren't his son... and he thought you were hot? I do however think your mom's reaction was wrong. YOU were the one uncomfortable and it was unfair to make you feel that you did something wrong by reacting that you were not interested. You did nothing wrong.

If I was a stranger I could understand, but this guy was our family friend since I was a baby. The dude was like a family member to me. It sorta kinda reminds me sort of what happened in the Woody Allen family.

Woody Allen was gay?

I'm not saying Woody is gay, what I am saying is Woody ended up slipping his wood into a person who he was a father to during the time she was a little girl.

[Ehwmatt]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

Assuming a regular adoption and not some in vitro bullshit, it's not "their own child" any more than a stepdaughter is a twisted stepfather's "own child." Just sayin.

Yeah, you must not know too many adoptive parents

I don't necessarily agree with what SH is saying/assuming. Of course a loving adopting couple sees the child as "their own," wasn't trying to say they wouldn't or shouldn't. But, the point is, remove biology from the equation, and deviate sexual proclivities are much easier to act on, just as a stepdaughter coming onto her stepfather or vice versa could break one of the other parties down easier.

Now, I'm not assuming that they are all going to molest their adopted children or try to turn them gay. I just think there are a whole plethora of reasons why gays shouldn't be anywhere near raising kids. There are so many problems with that scenario, including plenty of external problems and long-term mental issues that can crop up. I don't have time or the desire to get into all of the things I see happening. But, suffice to say, many gays are very confused, emotionally distraught people to the point of not even quite being able to figure out their own sexuality for a long time or even ever (enter the gay politicians who marry+have families etc). There's just too many strange things and misconceptions that a kid raised in even the most loving of gay homes faces, let alone the external social problems it will cause the kid, particuarly in his younger years. I wouldn't wish being raised in a gay household on my worst enemy.

Well there could be some truth to what you say...... but there are a LOT of effed up straight homes. A LOT of them. And emotionally unstable people are everywhere. It's society today. Not a gay thing necessarily.

People always say that at some point in this debate. I think you've seen me write enough about society and my own views to know that I wholeheartedly agree with you here. Doesn't change the fact that there are intrinsic problems at the outset with placing a kid in a gay household as opposed to a kid being born or adopted in a at-the-time good household that later turns sour. Now, as for the families/homes that are already fucked up from the get go, those people shouldn't be having or caring for kids any more so than gays in my world.

I lean libertarian more than true conservative on social stuff, but I do have my limits when the interests of defenseless others, like kids, are at issue.

[StevePerryHair]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

Assuming a regular adoption and not some in vitro bullshit, it's not "their own child" any more than a stepdaughter is a twisted stepfather's "own child." Just sayin.

Yeah, you must not know too many adoptive parents

I don't necessarily agree with what SH is saying/assuming. Of course a loving adopting couple sees the child as "their own," wasn't trying to say they wouldn't or shouldn't. But, the point is, remove biology from the equation, and deviate sexual proclivities are much easier to act on, just as a stepdaughter coming onto her stepfather or vice versa could break one of the other parties down easier.

Now, I'm not assuming that they are all going to molest their adopted children or try to turn them gay. I just think there are a whole plethora of reasons why gays shouldn't be anywhere near raising kids. There are so many problems with that scenario, including plenty of external problems and long-term mental issues that can crop up. I don't have time or the desire to get into all of the things I see happening. But, suffice to say, many gays are very confused, emotionally distraught people to the point of not even quite being able to figure out their own sexuality for a long time or even ever (enter the gay politicians who marry+have families etc). There's just too many strange things and misconceptions that a kid raised in even the most loving of gay homes faces, let alone the external social problems it will cause the kid, particuarly in his younger years. I wouldn't wish being raised in a gay household on my worst enemy.

Well there could be some truth to what you say...... but there are a LOT of effed up straight homes. A LOT of them. And emotionally unstable people are everywhere. It's society today. Not a gay thing necessarily.

People always say that at some point in this debate. I think you've seen me write enough about society and my own views to know that I wholeheartedly agree with you here. Doesn't change the fact that there are intrinsic problems with placing a couple in a gay household from the outset as opposed to a kid being born or adopted in a at-the-time good household that later turns sour. Now, as for the families/homes that are already fucked up from the get go, those people shouldn't be having or caring for kids any more so than gays in my world.

I lean libertarian more than true conservative on social stuff, but I do have my limits when the interests of defenseless others, like kids, are at issue.

Well, I guess that's where lesbians have it easier. They can actually bear their own children and no one can say crap about it.

[Jana]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

Um, well let's see. You weren't his son... and he thought you were hot? I do however think your mom's reaction was wrong. YOU were the one uncomfortable and it was unfair to make you feel that you did something wrong by reacting that you were not interested. You did nothing wrong.

If I was a stranger I could understand, but this guy was our family friend since I was a baby. The dude was like a family member to me. It sorta kinda reminds me sort of what happened in the Woody Allen family.

Woody Allen was gay?

I'm not saying Woody is gay, what I am saying is Woody ended up slipping his wood into a person who he was a father to during the time she was a little girl.

So it really is about perverted men, gay or straight, nothing just to do with gay, your whole story. I see.

[Don]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be accosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

[The Sushi Hunter]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

From what I've read, people like Sushi who carry on too much about gays are hiding something.

I could never love a man like I love a woman.

[StevePerryHair]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be acosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

Well, you may just be too "butch" and you should take that as a compliment

[Jana]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be acosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

Well, you may just be too "butch" and you should take that as a compliment

Maybe Sushi's "friend's" gaydar was going off.

[The Sushi Hunter]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be accosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

No....you've just not been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[StevePerryHair]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

From what I've read, people like Sushi who carry on too much about gays are hiding something.

I could never love a man like I love a woman.

And there is NOTHING wrong with that at all!!!

[Ehwmatt]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be accosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

Can't say I've been blatantly approached by a gay dude, either.

[steveo777]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be accosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

I know this thread is moving fast. Didn't you see my Reno story up above? I got in a similar uncomfortable situation after hitchhiking and getting a ride home from an Alice Cooper concert back in high school.

[Michigan Girl]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be accosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

Can't say I've been blatantly approached by a gay dude, either.

Me neither, Matty!!

[The Sushi Hunter]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

From what I've read, people like Sushi who carry on too much about gays are hiding something.

I could never love a man like I love a woman.

And there is NOTHING wrong with that at all!!!

Depends, Alice tends to believe that I'm a homophobe.

[steveo777]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

From what I've read, people like Sushi who carry on too much about gays are hiding something.

I could never love a man like I love a woman.

And there is NOTHING wrong with that at all!!!

Depends, Alice tends to believe that I'm a homophobe.

After some of my real life experiences, I'm the one who should be a homophobe.

[The Sushi Hunter]

So, am I the only guy here who hasn't be accosted by another male at some time in my life? What the fuck? Are you guys wearing Doe piss for cologne?

I know this thread is moving fast. Didn't you see my Reno story up above?

He's saying he hasn't been accosted, hence the "Doe piss for cologne".

[Michigan Girl]

Sushi ...I think you had a traumatic experience and received no support from your mother, who should
have had your back!!

[The Sushi Hunter]

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So....why is it that only gay men couples have boys and lesbian women couples have girls? Maybe the answer lies with my parents friend who ended up hitting on me when I became legal.

I don't think that's always the case. There is a lesbian couple with a child in our grade school and they have a boy. And are you suggesting the would hit on their own child?

I think it's more of wanting to "turn them out" according to their preferences.

Huh? so you were a GROWN MAN and hit on by a gay guy.... and that means that gay me are trying to turn out their OWN children? What a leap

The very first time we were together after I had became a legal adult, dude rubs my inner thigh from under the table, what do you make of that?

That he was returning the favor?

From what I've read, people like Sushi who carry on too much about gays are hiding something.

I could never love a man like I love a woman.

And there is NOTHING wrong with that at all!!!

Depends, Alice tends to believe that I'm a homophobe.

After some of my real life experiences, I'm the one who should be a homophobe.

Yeah, punching a dude in the face for coming onto you.....I think some anger management classes are in order.

[StevePerryHair]

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Depends, Alice tends to believe that I'm a homophobe.

Um, Alice is an idiot That just makes you "straight"