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Postby steveo777 » Wed May 26, 2010 10:51 am

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No, I'm really not bigoted at all. Don't you think there's a reason two men or two women can't have sex and conceive?



Having children does not prove anything Matt. I know a few heterosexual couples who can not conceive. I know some who choose not to conceive. Did you know there are over 500,000 children in foster care in America? Did you also know the majority of peopel who disapprove of homosexuals adopting are also against abortion? How does that make sense?

If heterosexuals are the majority, why are there so many fucked up kids?

No one gets to decide what two people who are committed to each do in their lives. If they want to raise children, they should be allowed. You take someone's rights away today, then someone will take your rights away tomorrow.


Yes youre making some good points , However,, what about the CHILD's rights???
I think most kids would prefer to have a mom and dad, instead of 2 moms or 2 dads..... The way society looks at it, the kids would get teased in most cases......
So while youre entitled to your RIGHTS as a homosexual, I think you also have to respect and accept a child's rights as well, dont you agree??

Has nothing to do with 2 homosexuals being great parents or not. But more how that child feels when he gets weird looks from others, or when kids start cracking jokes about his two moms or two dads....


Well, maybe if parents would teach their children to be open-minded
and accepting and compassionate there wouldn't be such issues. Just like I said, when I was a child biracial children were ostracized by both races. That's not the way it is nowadays. Why? society accepts white/black unions now more than then. Same sex couples with children are being accepted more than when I was a child. Times they are a changin'. My nephew's best friend (female) has two mothers, and the girl is very popular and confident. Did she probably have problems with teasing at some time earlier? I'm sure it wasn't all rainbows. But high school she's doing great and proud of her parents.


Good luck with that! While we are at it why don't we start getting the word out to the folks in West Virginia that inbreeding is NOT OK? :wink:
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Postby Jana » Wed May 26, 2010 11:06 am

(WebMD) Children growing up in same-sex parental households do not necessarily have differences in self-esteem, gender identity, or emotional problems from children growing up in heterosexual parent homes.
"There are a lot of children with at least one gay or lesbian parent," says Ellen C. Perrin, MD, professor of pediatrics at Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston. She revealed the findings at the American Academy of Pediatrics Conference and Exhibition.

Between one million and six million children in the U.S. are being reared by committed lesbian or gay couples, she says. Children being raised by same-sex parents were either born to a heterosexual couple, adopted, or conceived through artificial insemination.
"The vast consensus of all the studies shows that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," she tells WebMD. "In some ways children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."

Study Results
Researchers looked at information gleaned from 15 studies on more than 500 children, evaluating possible stigma, teasing and social isolation, adjustment and self-esteem, opposite gender role models, sexual orientation, and strengths.
Studies from 1981 to 1994, including 260 children reared by either heterosexual mothers or same-sex mothers after divorce, found no differences in intelligence, type or prevalence of psychiatric disorders, self-esteem, well-being, peer relationships, couple relationships, or parental stress.

"Some studies showed that single heterosexual parents' children have more difficulties than children who have parents of the same sex," Perrin says. "They did better in discipline, self-esteem, and had less psychosocial difficulties at home and at school."
Another study of 37 children of 27 divorced lesbian mothers and a similar number of children of heterosexual mothers found no differences in behavior, adjustment, gender identity, and peer relationships.

Equitable Division of Chores
Two other large studies involving more than 100 couples found that same-sex parents also had contact with extended family, had social support, and had a more equitable division of labor in the home.
"Lesbian couples share household responsibilities and chores more equitably," Perrin says. "And, the children of lesbian couples are less aggressive, more nurturing to peers, more tolerant of diversity, and more inclined to play with both boy's and girl's toys.

Children seem to adjust better when there is a more equal division of labor in the home and the parental relationship with the children had a higher rating, she says.

The combined data presented by Perrin showed that children whose parents are lesbian have no more problems than the rest of the children and actually may be more tolerant of differences, she says. There was suggestive evidence that there were more stresses due to the gender of same-sex parents, but the children also reported greater well-being, more nurturing, and a greater tolerance for differences.

What is striking is that there are very consistent findings in these studies," Perrin says.

Ryan Malone, who works in public relations in Washington, D.C., says after his parents were divorced he was reared by two "lesbian moms," while still staying in contact with his father.

"We lived in a small town," he says. "While I was open about my family, I didn't broadcast it."
At times he felt isolated because he didn't know any other families at the time headed by a same-sex couple, Malone says. "My parents over-parented because they felt like the whole world was watching."

Emotional Topic
While further study should be done, this is important for pediatricians to know so they can learn more about variations in families and give appropriate advice in optimizing the child's development, Perrin says.
Carol Berkowitz, MD, former president of AAP, says this analysis is important in that it combines evidence-based studies.

"This subject evokes a lot of emotions," she says. "Some of the studies on this subject in the past have been weighted and biased, based on nothing more than the researcher's views."
Evidence-based studies are important in helping pediatricians in their practices and creating policy for the future, she says.

Sources: American Academy of Pediatrics Conference and Exhibition, Washington, D.C., Oct. 8-11, 2005. Ellen C. Perrin, MD, professor of pediatrics, Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston. Carol Berkowitz, MD, former president, American Academy of Pediatrics.
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Postby Saint John » Wed May 26, 2010 11:13 am

steveo777 wrote:No one gets to decide what two people who are committed to each do in their lives. If they want to raise children, they should be allowed.


Incest proponent ... figures.
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Postby steveo777 » Wed May 26, 2010 11:24 am

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steveo777 wrote:No one gets to decide what two people who are committed to each do in their lives. If they want to raise children, they should be allowed.


Incest proponent ... figures.


Fuck you... nice try.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed May 26, 2010 11:35 am

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Behshad wrote:This is very simple.

Two homosexuals can do whatever they want to eachother. They should even be able to marry eachother for that matter.
all they're doing is living their lives the way they wanna live it.
But adopting and raising a child is wrong because it's not just about THEM anymore. It's another life that they're affecting.


And maybe they're affecting their lives positively. :wink:


Or maybe the poor kid gets called a fag, because his Dads are a couple fags. Maybe it's worse....maybe he get's beat up, or actually becomes gay, because that might be the only identity he knows. Obviously, I can't call this as fact because I don't know, but I looked at both sides of the coin and I can get my brain around there being all kinds of possibilities. The bottom line is this: What choice does the child have, who is not yet old enough to choose what he or she wants. What happens when they are old enough to have an opinion and find themselves with all kinds of internal strife?


I don't think a kid will become "gay" because of being raised by two dudes who are gay. What could happen is the kid may grow up completely confused by the entire deal and start out maybe thinking he or she is gay and after maybe some sexual experimenting they later determine that they are not gay after all. They may even form an opinion on their own when they become young adults that they do not believe in the same life styles that their gay or lesbian parents raised them in. But wishful thinking has it that they will either grow up gay or grow up fully accepting gays and lesbians. To some it is completely worth the gamble to see how kids will grow up exposed to that type of environment.

The more this issue is raised in society, the more I become an opponent of that type of life style.
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Postby Saint John » Wed May 26, 2010 11:36 am

steveo777 wrote:
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steveo777 wrote:No one gets to decide what two people who are committed to each do in their lives. If they want to raise children, they should be allowed.


Incest proponent ... figures.


Fuck you... nice try.


Not my words, moron. It's right there.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 12:21 pm

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No, I'm really not bigoted at all. Don't you think there's a reason two men or two women can't have sex and conceive?



Having children does not prove anything Matt. I know a few heterosexual couples who can not conceive. I know some who choose not to conceive. Did you know there are over 500,000 children in foster care in America? Did you also know the majority of peopel who disapprove of homosexuals adopting are also against abortion? How does that make sense?

If heterosexuals are the majority, why are there so many fucked up kids?

No one gets to decide what two people who are committed to each do in their lives. If they want to raise children, they should be allowed. You take someone's rights away today, then someone will take your rights away tomorrow.


Yes youre making some good points , However,, what about the CHILD's rights???
I think most kids would prefer to have a mom and dad, instead of 2 moms or 2 dads..... The way society looks at it, the kids would get teased in most cases......
So while youre entitled to your RIGHTS as a homosexual, I think you also have to respect and accept a child's rights as well, dont you agree??

Has nothing to do with 2 homosexuals being great parents or not. But more how that child feels when he gets weird looks from others, or when kids start cracking jokes about his two moms or two dads....













Tell that to Susan Smith.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 12:23 pm

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Behshad wrote:So while youre entitled to your RIGHTS as a homosexual, I think you also have to respect and accept a child's rights as well, dont you agree??...


How can anyone expect BinT to respect and accept a child's rights when the fucking guy can't even respect and accept people voicing their opinion about this topic?
He's just voicing his opinion ...he has the right as well!! :wink:


Sweetheart he was going far beyond voicing just his opinion. It's one thing to say what he believes and completely different when he starts throwing out the spew about people being haters and all the other bullshit he was calling people.


No worse than the words fag and the other lovely descriptions you folks give.
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Postby S2M » Wed May 26, 2010 12:50 pm

This just in on FB: a local bachelor, age 41, has just enrolled in Ka-ra-te......
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed May 26, 2010 1:14 pm

StocktontoMalone wrote:This just in on FB: a local bachelor, age 41, has just enrolled in Ka-ra-te......


Well, I dont' know how this is related to the gay discussion here, but would that be YOU who enrolled in Karate? :lol:
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Postby Deb » Wed May 26, 2010 1:19 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:This just in on FB: a local bachelor, age 41, has just enrolled in Ka-ra-te......


Well, I dont' know how this is related to the gay discussion here, but would that be YOU who enrolled in Karate? :lol:


Haven't you seen that commercial, Lynn? I laughed my ass off how S2M just threw that in randomly. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed May 26, 2010 1:20 pm

Deb wrote:
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StocktontoMalone wrote:This just in on FB: a local bachelor, age 41, has just enrolled in Ka-ra-te......


Well, I dont' know how this is related to the gay discussion here, but would that be YOU who enrolled in Karate? :lol:


Haven't you seen that commercial, Lynn? I laughed my ass off how S2M just threw that in randomly. :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: Its the SECOND time he has used a commercial today that I didnt' get :oops: :lol: I am SO commercial deprived with our dvr!!!!!!! :lol:
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Postby Deb » Wed May 26, 2010 1:22 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
Deb wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:This just in on FB: a local bachelor, age 41, has just enrolled in Ka-ra-te......


Well, I dont' know how this is related to the gay discussion here, but would that be YOU who enrolled in Karate? :lol:


Haven't you seen that commercial, Lynn? I laughed my ass off how S2M just threw that in randomly. :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: Its the SECOND time he has used a commercial today that I didnt' get :oops: :lol: I am SO commercial deprived with our dvr!!!!!!! :lol:


:lol: http://cnettv.cnet.com/karate/9742-1_53-50085134.html
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed May 26, 2010 1:23 pm

Deb wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Deb wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:This just in on FB: a local bachelor, age 41, has just enrolled in Ka-ra-te......


Well, I dont' know how this is related to the gay discussion here, but would that be YOU who enrolled in Karate? :lol:


Haven't you seen that commercial, Lynn? I laughed my ass off how S2M just threw that in randomly. :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: Its the SECOND time he has used a commercial today that I didnt' get :oops: :lol: I am SO commercial deprived with our dvr!!!!!!! :lol:


:lol: http://cnettv.cnet.com/karate/9742-1_53-50085134.html


:lol: :lol: I can say that no, I have never seen that commercial!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed May 26, 2010 3:05 pm

Well if it's any consolation to you BinT, I believe even some straight people shouldn't be allowed to raise children. Take for instance these pieces of work:

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Postby Tomulator » Wed May 26, 2010 9:11 pm

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Saint John wrote:It's a shame that this country condones bringing up children in that filthy lifestyle. They're probably better off not seeing that anymore, anyway.



+1,000,000


-1,000,000

Live and let live. As long as children are being brought up surrounded by love, I don't care if they are 2 women, 2 men or one of each. Sadly some children are being raised in some pretty filthy lifestyles by our very own heterosexual population.


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Postby Tomulator » Wed May 26, 2010 9:17 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
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Ehwmatt wrote:No, I'm really not bigoted at all. Don't you think there's a reason two men or two women can't have sex and conceive?

i'm curious - do you feel that infertile heterosexual couples should not adopt?


That's a good counterargument, at least on the surface. But, the better argument is no, because that failure to conceive is an accident of nature, whereas two men/two women are not intended to procreate given our very nature/biological composition as human beings. No religion/creationism needed, that's just science.

And let me be clear here, I'm not saying anything ridiculous like you should only have sex to procreate. But you can't ignore nature/biology.



Matt, being homosexual is not a choice. That's your mistake and makes your logic faulty.


Neither is being born blind - doesn't mean I want people born that way behind the wheel of the car. Driving, like having kids, is not a right. You can lose kids just as you lose a license to drive.


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Postby donnaplease » Wed May 26, 2010 9:20 pm

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Interesting because 25/30 years ago, the last thing on any gay and lesbian's mind was having children, that's afterall one of the things they were running away from by being homosexual, absolutely positively no possibility of a chick getting prego when she's sleeping with another woman or a man getting someone prego by boning a dude up the shithole. For whatever reason, it's changed, I'm thinking they want to go through the motions to make their relationship seem more natural.


Wow, I totally disagree with this statement. I am not in favor of legalized gay marriage, and I don't like the way the gay community is pushing it on people, but I do believe that most are sincere in what they perceive is a 'normal' family relationship in their eyes. I have a former co-worker friend who is a lesbian. She didn't become a lesbian (poor choice of words, but it is what it is) until after a failed heterosexual marriage that produced a daughter. The daughter rarely saw her father and was in fact raised in a committed lesbian relationship, and grew up to be both very normal and hetero, and is now married and a pediatrician in Arizona. On the flip side, she had a pseudo-step-sister who grew up in the same home who is just all f*cked up! Nature or nurture??? IDK. (Side note: this lesbian friend is also not a proponent of the gay marriage drive - she thinks it's much ado about nothing.)

I guess I'm a hypocrite. I don't agree with all the hubba-hubba surrounding gay marriage, but I don't necessarily have a problem with a homosexual adopting a child. There are far worse things that could befall an innocent child. :(
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 10:55 pm

[quote="Behshad

COMPLETELY different situation. Kids don't tease kids with parents being black & white. But totally tease them when there's two moms and no dads.

And in regards to your divorce theory , that still involves two parents with opposite gender.

Very poor examples to try to justify YOUR thinking. It's easy for you to SAY you can accept this but I bet you , you wouldn't want two have two moms if it was YOU who was the kid. Simple as that.[/quote]

You can't speak for every child or for every situation. You're projecting your feelings about the subject onto the children and that's simply not an acceptable scenario.

A child needs a loving home. That's it. The rest is personal opinion and bias.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:01 pm

[quote="JanaSo while youre entitled to your RIGHTS as a homosexual, I think you also have to respect and accept a child's rights as well, dont you agree??



Well, maybe if parents would teach their children to be open-minded and accepting and compassionate there wouldn't be such issues. Just like I said, when I was a child biracial children were ostracized by both races. That's not the way it is nowadays. Why? society accepts white/black unions now more than then. Same sex couples with children are being accepted more than when I was a child. Times they are a changin'. My nephew's best friend (female) has two mothers, and the girl is very popular and confident. Did she probably have problems with teasing at some time earlier? I'm sure it wasn't all rainbows. But high school she's doing great and proud of her parents.[/quote]


You're right Jana. Those who want to blame the intolerance and bigotry they feel on the subject they feel them about are simply too dumb to understand anything. Anyone who claims that being gay is wrong and then perpetuates stereotypes and bashes gays is simply creating the problem they claim to be fighting.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:05 pm

donnaplease wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Interesting because 25/30 years ago, the last thing on any gay and lesbian's mind was having children, that's afterall one of the things they were running away from by being homosexual, absolutely positively no possibility of a chick getting prego when she's sleeping with another woman or a man getting someone prego by boning a dude up the shithole. For whatever reason, it's changed, I'm thinking they want to go through the motions to make their relationship seem more natural.


Wow, I totally disagree with this statement. I am not in favor of legalized gay marriage, and I don't like the way the gay community is pushing it on people, but I do believe that most are sincere in what they perceive is a 'normal' family relationship in their eyes. I have a former co-worker friend who is a lesbian. She didn't become a lesbian (poor choice of words, but it is what it is) until after a failed heterosexual marriage that produced a daughter. The daughter rarely saw her father and was in fact raised in a committed lesbian relationship, and grew up to be both very normal and hetero, and is now married and a pediatrician in Arizona. On the flip side, she had a pseudo-step-sister who grew up in the same home who is just all f*cked up! Nature or nurture??? IDK. (Side note: this lesbian friend is also not a proponent of the gay marriage drive - she thinks it's much ado about nothing.)

I guess I'm a hypocrite. I don't agree with all the hubba-hubba surrounding gay marriage, but I don't necessarily have a problem with a homosexual adopting a child. There are far worse things that could befall an innocent child. :(







How can a person not be in favor of two people wanting to marry? What does that have to do with you?
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 26, 2010 11:10 pm

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A child needs a loving home. That's it. The rest is personal opinion and bias.


Im not speaking for every child,,, but you gonna interview each kid and see if they would rather have a mom&dad or 2 dads??
I'm projecting my feelings on the subject yes, DUH,,, and youre projecting your feelings,,,, but since Ive been a kid once in my life, I KNOW that I would prefered to have a normal family with a mom and dad. yes I said normal. I dont judge you if youre gay,its YOUR LIFE , but I will fucking judge you if you wanna get a kid's life involved., because your lifestyle can not be forced to a child's enviroement .
A loving home is what a child needs, correct.
But being teased at school&humiliated is what a child DOES NOT NEED.

If 2 gay guys wanting to fuck the shit out of eachother, thats their choice and life style,,, if two lesbians want to munch on eachothers carpets till it turns to hardwood floor thats their life and their rights.....
But dragging a kid into it, is something that should be prevented , not because they are bad parents or there wouldnt provide the child with a loving home, but simply because of the way society looks at it and how that child will have issues down the road.
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 26, 2010 11:12 pm

BobbyinTN wrote:
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The Sushi Hunter wrote:Interesting because 25/30 years ago, the last thing on any gay and lesbian's mind was having children, that's afterall one of the things they were running away from by being homosexual, absolutely positively no possibility of a chick getting prego when she's sleeping with another woman or a man getting someone prego by boning a dude up the shithole. For whatever reason, it's changed, I'm thinking they want to go through the motions to make their relationship seem more natural.


Wow, I totally disagree with this statement. I am not in favor of legalized gay marriage, and I don't like the way the gay community is pushing it on people, but I do believe that most are sincere in what they perceive is a 'normal' family relationship in their eyes. I have a former co-worker friend who is a lesbian. She didn't become a lesbian (poor choice of words, but it is what it is) until after a failed heterosexual marriage that produced a daughter. The daughter rarely saw her father and was in fact raised in a committed lesbian relationship, and grew up to be both very normal and hetero, and is now married and a pediatrician in Arizona. On the flip side, she had a pseudo-step-sister who grew up in the same home who is just all f*cked up! Nature or nurture??? IDK. (Side note: this lesbian friend is also not a proponent of the gay marriage drive - she thinks it's much ado about nothing.)

I guess I'm a hypocrite. I don't agree with all the hubba-hubba surrounding gay marriage, but I don't necessarily have a problem with a homosexual adopting a child. There are far worse things that could befall an innocent child. :(







How can a person not be in favor of two people wanting to marry? What does that have to do with you?


Weak arguement, Bobby.
Its like saying How can a person not be in favor of a 50 year old banging a 12 year old, what does that have to do with you ? :roll:
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 26, 2010 11:15 pm

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You're right Jana. Those who want to blame the intolerance and bigotry they feel on the subject they feel them about are simply too dumb to understand anything. Anyone who claims that being gay is wrong and then perpetuates stereotypes and bashes gays is simply creating the problem they claim to be fighting.


If youre gay, it doesnt matter who thinks its right or wrong,,, its your life and you live it the way YOU please..... and if you have a gay partner, then again its your lives and you live it the way you enjoy it to its fullest. But you can not get a child involved not knowing how this will in the long run affect the kid's life.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:26 pm

Behshad wrote:Im not speaking for every child,,, but you gonna interview each kid and see if they would rather have a mom&dad or 2 dads??
I'm projecting my feelings on the subject yes, DUH,,, and youre projecting your feelings,,,, but since Ive been a kid once in my life, I KNOW that I would prefered to have a normal family with a mom and dad. yes I said normal. I dont judge you if youre gay,its YOUR LIFE , but I will fucking judge you if you wanna get a kid's life involved., because your lifestyle can not be forced to a child's enviroement .
A loving home is what a child needs, correct.
But being teased at school&humiliated is what a child DOES NOT NEED.

If 2 gay guys wanting to fuck the shit out of eachother, thats their choice and life style,,, if two lesbians want to munch on eachothers carpets till it turns to hardwood floor thats their life and their rights.....
But dragging a kid into it, is something that should be prevented , not because they are bad parents or there wouldnt provide the child with a loving home, but simply because of the way society looks at it and how that child will have issues down the road.



It's not your decision or business. You have no idea what "normal" is and as I said before, if we want to deny people the right to have or raise children, the heterosexuals would have been voted off the island long ago. The majority of fucked up kids come from heterosexuals. If parents are doing their job, you know, those "perfect heterosexual parents", their bratty fucked up kids wouldn't be bullying anyone.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:29 pm

Behshad wrote:How can a person not be in favor of two people wanting to marry? What does that have to do with you?


Weak arguement, Bobby.
Its like saying How can a person not be in favor of a 50 year old banging a 12 year old, what does that have to do with you ? :roll:[/quote]

WOW! Pot, this is kettle.

One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.

I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:31 pm

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You're right Jana. Those who want to blame the intolerance and bigotry they feel on the subject they feel them about are simply too dumb to understand anything. Anyone who claims that being gay is wrong and then perpetuates stereotypes and bashes gays is simply creating the problem they claim to be fighting.


If youre gay, it doesnt matter who thinks its right or wrong,,, its your life and you live it the way YOU please..... and if you have a gay partner, then again its your lives and you live it the way you enjoy it to its fullest. But you can not get a child involved not knowing how this will in the long run affect the kid's life.


Strawman. Having two moms or two dads or one of each has nothing to do with the "long run", but how the child is raised. If bigots stopped their bullshit there'd be no problems. Maybe that's a better way to remedy the situation than trying to tell people who they can marry and if they can raise children.
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 26, 2010 11:36 pm

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WOW! Pot, this is kettle.

One is against the law because to be considered an adult you have to be 18 years old. Any consenting adult should have the right to marry another consenting adult and no one else should be involved. It's simply no one else's business.

I bet you're one of those folks who call Obama a "socialist" and yet you want the government to tell people how to live and who to love. LMAO!!


Do you have to fuck up every quote ? :lol:

The law?? Since when do you care about the law.... Last I checked THE LAW said NO to gay people getting married (in 45 states), but you dont wanna follow that law, since its not good enough for you. If gay people did care about the law, they wouldve followed the law and didnt keep pushing to CHANGE the law, left and right to suit them.
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 26, 2010 11:40 pm

BobbyinTN wrote:
Behshad wrote:
BobbyinTN wrote:
You're right Jana. Those who want to blame the intolerance and bigotry they feel on the subject they feel them about are simply too dumb to understand anything. Anyone who claims that being gay is wrong and then perpetuates stereotypes and bashes gays is simply creating the problem they claim to be fighting.


If youre gay, it doesnt matter who thinks its right or wrong,,, its your life and you live it the way YOU please..... and if you have a gay partner, then again its your lives and you live it the way you enjoy it to its fullest. But you can not get a child involved not knowing how this will in the long run affect the kid's life.


Strawman. Having two moms or two dads or one of each has nothing to do with the "long run", but how the child is raised. If bigots stopped their bullshit there'd be no problems. Maybe that's a better way to remedy the situation than trying to tell people who they can marry and if they can raise children.


It sure does. A kid getting teased daily by friends at school WILL totally damage that kids mental stability. Having friends over and them asking "um, where is your mom".... " George is my mom",,,, yep, that wont get the kids fucked up,,,, :roll:
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Postby S2M » Wed May 26, 2010 11:51 pm

This thread is GAY.... :lol:
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