Is It Too Early To Think About Memorial Day Weekend????

[StevePerryHair]

No denying what he said was offensive and ignorant!

I think Canada just gets picked on because they are just our quiet neighbors to the north I think most Americans like the canadians and visiting there. I do anyway!!

[Michigan Girl]

No denying what he said was offensive and ignorant!

I think Canada just gets picked on because they are just our quiet neighbors to the north I think most Americans like the canadians and visiting there. I do anyway!!

I love them ...part of my family are Canadian!! Besides they keep our asses warm w/the hat!!

Isn't that where the term asshat came from?!?!

[StevePerryHair]

No denying what he said was offensive and ignorant!

I think Canada just gets picked on because they are just our quiet neighbors to the north I think most Americans like the canadians and visiting there. I do anyway!!

I love them ...part of my family are Canadian!! Besides they keep our asses warm w/the hat!!

Isn't that where the term asshat came from?!?!

[Tomulator]

Um no offense but WTF did canada do to get a holiday like memorial day???

Let's see now... gee, maybe fight in World War I & II from the start, instead of waiting a couple of years to see how it was going to pan out, then swan in at the end and claim all the credit like the USA did?

though his statement was ignorant I wouldn't say the US takes all the credit. Any WWII movies I've seen show the US soldiers fighting as well as British and others. They had to wait for a reason that involved us. As soon as they had it they were in. The only reason that Germany lost that war from the things I've watched and learned from a husband obsessed with studying that war, is that Hitler got greedy. He divided up his army instead of keeping it full force in one direction and he should have worked faster on that atomic bomb. That's only a simplistic view, but no one country alone won that war. It was full of world wide Heroes and mistakes on the other side.

I know, hon, it was sarcasm on my part, because I do get tired of some Americans talking about how 'we' rescued France and 'you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us' - and to then have someone ask 'why should Canada have a Memorial Day'... well, it bugs me. I'm an Australian; our national day of remberance is Anzac Day, which we share with New Zealand, Anzac standing for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. The day is the anniversary of Anzac troops landing in Gallipoli; that campaign is a huge part of our heritage and our sense of national identity, and fighting alongside us were the Canadians. When it comes to remembering our fallen soldiers, the people who defended our freedoms, Canada always stood with Australia and New Zealand, without hesitation, from the outset. So I guess I take someone implying Canada has no right to a day of rememberance for fallen soldiers pretty personally; it's like someone telling me Australia has no right either.

Besides which, I believe Canada is the only country to have 'officially' defeated America in a war, and on US soil too!

Know of what you speak when it comes to serious topics like this.

Do you have ANY IDEA of the WORLD-WIDE sacrifices the USA has made throughout history? Stop "pissing" on the graves of the AMERICANS who have fought and DIED for FREEDOM throughout the world!

We DID help LIBERATE France. That is a FACT. Without the USA, WWII would not have been won. That is also a FACT.

Your disrespect and ignorance is astounding to me.

[StevePerryHair]

Um no offense but WTF did canada do to get a holiday like memorial day???

Let's see now... gee, maybe fight in World War I & II from the start, instead of waiting a couple of years to see how it was going to pan out, then swan in at the end and claim all the credit like the USA did?

though his statement was ignorant I wouldn't say the US takes all the credit. Any WWII movies I've seen show the US soldiers fighting as well as British and others. They had to wait for a reason that involved us. As soon as they had it they were in. The only reason that Germany lost that war from the things I've watched and learned from a husband obsessed with studying that war, is that Hitler got greedy. He divided up his army instead of keeping it full force in one direction and he should have worked faster on that atomic bomb. That's only a simplistic view, but no one country alone won that war. It was full of world wide Heroes and mistakes on the other side.

I know, hon, it was sarcasm on my part, because I do get tired of some Americans talking about how 'we' rescued France and 'you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us' - and to then have someone ask 'why should Canada have a Memorial Day'... well, it bugs me. I'm an Australian; our national day of remberance is Anzac Day, which we share with New Zealand, Anzac standing for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. The day is the anniversary of Anzac troops landing in Gallipoli; that campaign is a huge part of our heritage and our sense of national identity, and fighting alongside us were the Canadians. When it comes to remembering our fallen soldiers, the people who defended our freedoms, Canada always stood with Australia and New Zealand, without hesitation, from the outset. So I guess I take someone implying Canada has no right to a day of rememberance for fallen soldiers pretty personally; it's like someone telling me Australia has no right either.

Besides which, I believe Canada is the only country to have 'officially' defeated America in a war, and on US soil too!

Know of what you speak when it comes to serious topics like this.

Do you have ANY IDEA of the WORLD-WIDE sacrifices the USA has made throughout history? Stop "pissing" on the graves of the AMERICANS who have fought and DIED for FREEDOM throughout the world!

We DID help LIBERATE France. That is a FACT. Without the USA, WWII would not have been won. That is also a FACT.

Your disrespect and ignorance is astounding to me.

You also can not discount the efforts of heroes from other countries the way Eve has

[Arianddu]

I know, hon, it was sarcasm on my part, because I do get tired of some Americans talking about how 'we' rescued France and 'you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us' - and to then have someone ask 'why should Canada have a Memorial Day'... well, it bugs me. I'm an Australian; our national day of remberance is Anzac Day, which we share with New Zealand, Anzac standing for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. The day is the anniversary of Anzac troops landing in Gallipoli; that campaign is a huge part of our heritage and our sense of national identity, and fighting alongside us were the Canadians. When it comes to remembering our fallen soldiers, the people who defended our freedoms, Canada always stood with Australia and New Zealand, without hesitation, from the outset. So I guess I take someone implying Canada has no right to a day of rememberance for fallen soldiers pretty personally; it's like someone telling me Australia has no right either.

Besides which, I believe Canada is the only country to have 'officially' defeated America in a war, and on US soil too!

Know of what you speak when it comes to serious topics like this.

Do you have ANY IDEA of the WORLD-WIDE sacrifices the USA has made throughout history? Stop "pissing" on the graves of the AMERICANS who have fought and DIED for FREEDOM throughout the world!

We DID help LIBERATE France. That is a FACT. Without the USA, WWII would not have been won. That is also a FACT.

Your disrespect and ignorance is astounding to me.

WTF??? What the hell have you been smoking? Seriously, try getting your head out of your arse and reading what I actually wrote.

[Arianddu]

You also can not discount the efforts of heroes from other countries the way Eve has

Thank you.

I dislike people who speak as though only Americans suffered and died in the two world wars, and only Americans are responsible for the Allied victory. Trashing the combined efforts of multiple nations does no one any good. Honour them all, or honour none.

[Tomulator]

I'll add that the US did not liberate France alone. Nobody should imply that. It was a large, coordinated effort which involved many countries either directly or indirectly. However, if the USA was not involved, it would most certainly not have succeeded.

Nobody (at least I haven't) should try to diminish Canada, Australia, or any other country's own sacrifices. They are just as significant.

[Tomulator]

I know, hon, it was sarcasm on my part, because I do get tired of some Americans talking about how 'we' rescued France and 'you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us' - and to then have someone ask 'why should Canada have a Memorial Day'... well, it bugs me. I'm an Australian; our national day of remberance is Anzac Day, which we share with New Zealand, Anzac standing for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. The day is the anniversary of Anzac troops landing in Gallipoli; that campaign is a huge part of our heritage and our sense of national identity, and fighting alongside us were the Canadians. When it comes to remembering our fallen soldiers, the people who defended our freedoms, Canada always stood with Australia and New Zealand, without hesitation, from the outset. So I guess I take someone implying Canada has no right to a day of rememberance for fallen soldiers pretty personally; it's like someone telling me Australia has no right either.

Besides which, I believe Canada is the only country to have 'officially' defeated America in a war, and on US soil too!

Know of what you speak when it comes to serious topics like this.

Do you have ANY IDEA of the WORLD-WIDE sacrifices the USA has made throughout history? Stop "pissing" on the graves of the AMERICANS who have fought and DIED for FREEDOM throughout the world!

We DID help LIBERATE France. That is a FACT. Without the USA, WWII would not have been won. That is also a FACT.

Your disrespect and ignorance is astounding to me.

WTF??? What the hell have you been smoking? Seriously, try getting your head out of your arse and reading what I actually wrote.

Settle down. Lose the attitude too.

[Arianddu]

I know, hon, it was sarcasm on my part, because I do get tired of some Americans talking about how 'we' rescued France and 'you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us' - and to then have someone ask 'why should Canada have a Memorial Day'... well, it bugs me. I'm an Australian; our national day of remberance is Anzac Day, which we share with New Zealand, Anzac standing for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. The day is the anniversary of Anzac troops landing in Gallipoli; that campaign is a huge part of our heritage and our sense of national identity, and fighting alongside us were the Canadians. When it comes to remembering our fallen soldiers, the people who defended our freedoms, Canada always stood with Australia and New Zealand, without hesitation, from the outset. So I guess I take someone implying Canada has no right to a day of rememberance for fallen soldiers pretty personally; it's like someone telling me Australia has no right either.

Besides which, I believe Canada is the only country to have 'officially' defeated America in a war, and on US soil too!

Know of what you speak when it comes to serious topics like this.

Do you have ANY IDEA of the WORLD-WIDE sacrifices the USA has made throughout history? Stop "pissing" on the graves of the AMERICANS who have fought and DIED for FREEDOM throughout the world!

We DID help LIBERATE France. That is a FACT. Without the USA, WWII would not have been won. That is also a FACT.

Your disrespect and ignorance is astounding to me.

WTF??? What the hell have you been smoking? Seriously, try getting your head out of your arse and reading what I actually wrote.

Settle down. Lose the attitude too.

You know what - fuck you, Black Pot. Arseholes like you are the reason why 'talk about Americans' gets met with rolled eyes all over the English speaking world.

[Tomulator]

I know, hon, it was sarcasm on my part, because I do get tired of some Americans talking about how 'we' rescued France and 'you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us' - and to then have someone ask 'why should Canada have a Memorial Day'... well, it bugs me. I'm an Australian; our national day of remberance is Anzac Day, which we share with New Zealand, Anzac standing for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. The day is the anniversary of Anzac troops landing in Gallipoli; that campaign is a huge part of our heritage and our sense of national identity, and fighting alongside us were the Canadians. When it comes to remembering our fallen soldiers, the people who defended our freedoms, Canada always stood with Australia and New Zealand, without hesitation, from the outset. So I guess I take someone implying Canada has no right to a day of rememberance for fallen soldiers pretty personally; it's like someone telling me Australia has no right either.

Besides which, I believe Canada is the only country to have 'officially' defeated America in a war, and on US soil too!

Know of what you speak when it comes to serious topics like this.

Do you have ANY IDEA of the WORLD-WIDE sacrifices the USA has made throughout history? Stop "pissing" on the graves of the AMERICANS who have fought and DIED for FREEDOM throughout the world!

We DID help LIBERATE France. That is a FACT. Without the USA, WWII would not have been won. That is also a FACT.

Your disrespect and ignorance is astounding to me.

WTF??? What the hell have you been smoking? Seriously, try getting your head out of your arse and reading what I actually wrote.

Settle down. Lose the attitude too.

You know what - fuck you, Black Pot. Arseholes like you are the reason why 'talk about Americans' gets met with rolled eyes all over the English speaking world.

Where would the world be without the contributions and sacrifices the USA has made. Do you have a clue????

You are a bitter, bitchy, foul-mouthed, immature little girl.

Go kiss a Wombat will ya?

[Everett]

I guess i should've paid more attention in history class....

[Arianddu]

I'll add that the US did not liberate France alone. Nobody should imply that. It was a large, coordinated effort which involved many countries either directly or indirectly. However, if the USA was not involved, it would most certainly not have succeeded.

Nobody (at least I haven't) should try to diminish Canada, Australia, or any other country's own sacrifices. They are just as significant.

Nah, you just freaked out and totally over-reacted when someone suggested that some Americans behave like no one else was involved, and behaved as though it had been said that Americans contributed nothing. Not like you totally ignored what was actually said or anything.

[StevePerryHair]

I guess i should've paid more attention in history class....

And English grammar class

[Everett]

I guess i should've paid more attention in history class....

And English grammar class

meh it's friday lynn cut me some slack

[Arianddu]

Where would the world be without the contributions and sacrifices the USA has made. Do you have a clue????

You are a bitter, bitchy, foul-mouthed, immature little girl.

Go kiss a Wombat will ya?

Sorry, could you please point out anywhere that I said the USA hasn't made sacrifices or contributions to the world? Anywhere I have said anything disrespectful about the sacrifice made by American soldiers, past and present?

I'm not the one throwing a tanty because it was suggested that a few people make stupid, assinine comments that unfortunately make their countrymen look bad.

[Tomulator]

Where would the world be without the contributions and sacrifices the USA has made. Do you have a clue????

You are a bitter, bitchy, foul-mouthed, immature little girl.

Go kiss a Wombat will ya?

Sorry, could you please point out anywhere that I said the USA hasn't made sacrifices or contributions to the world? Anywhere I have said anything disrespectful about the sacrifice made by American soldiers, past and present?

I'm not the one throwing a tanty because it was suggested that a few people make stupid, assinine comments that unfortunately make their countrymen look bad.

No...you make light of the American contributions throughout the world. You take a "snobby" anti-American view that many Europeans take and try to IGNORE history and FACTS as they relate to the sacrifices this country has made, and continues to make!

Quit "bashing" the USA and btw, war is not some "soccer game" designed for your amusement. Your pithy little comment about Canada being the only country to defeat the USA on our soil is terribly demeaning and shows your lack of appreciation for men killing each other in combat.

Yes, you did imply that the American sacrifices were "overrated" and "exaggerated".

Read what you post!

Do some "digging" will ya on America's contributions to the world in both protection of freedom, worldwide aid, etc.

I am SICK AND TIRED of the "AMERICA-BASHING" that seems to be so popular these days!!!

[StevePerryHair]

I guess i should've paid more attention in history class....

And English grammar class

meh it's friday lynn cut me some slack

So what's your excuse the other days of the week??

[Arianddu]

No...you make light of the American contributions throughout the world. You take a "snobby" anti-American view that many Europeans take and try to IGNORE history and FACTS as they relate to the sacrifices this country has made, and continues to make!

Quit "bashing" the USA and btw, war is not some "soccer game" designed for your amusement. Your pithy little comment about Canada being the only country to defeat the USA on our soil is terribly demeaning and shows your lack of appreciation for men killing each other in combat.

Yes, you did imply that the American sacrifices were "overrated" and "exaggerated".

Read what you post!

Do some "digging" will ya on America's contributions to the world in both protection of freedom, worldwide aid, etc.

I am SICK AND TIRED of the "AMERICA-BASHING" that seems to be so popular these days!!!

1. I am Australian, not European. If you had read my original response to Everett, you should know that.

2. I'm not anti-American, I'm anti-idiot, especially especially when the idiocy is insulting.

3. I did not make light of American contributions to the world. Let me say this again, very slowly, so you can maybe understand: SOME... Americans... behave... like... America... is... the... only... country... that... was... involved... in... the... victory... in... World... Wars... One... and... Two. This... makes... Americans... look... bad... and... is... annoying... and... insulting... to... every... other... country... involved.
Get it yet?

3. I have not ignored history, or facts, about anything. I haven't made any comment about what the USA has actually done or hasn't done. Nor have I "bashed" the USA. I've spoken about the attitude of certain Americans, NOT about America itself.

4. What does soccer have to do with anything? And how on earth did you get that I implied war is some kind of amusing game? Let me refresh your memory - this started because I got very annoyed with Eve suggesting that Canada had done nothing to merit honouring the war dead with a day of rememberance. I take the sacrifice of those who died in wars to defend their countries VERY seriously, and get very pissed off when someone implies that a nation has no right or reason to mourn or honour their soldiers and war dead.

5. Canada IS the only country to have defeated the USA in a war, and it DID do so on US soil. That is neither pithy, nor is it disrespectful, it is a simple historical fact (which you seem to be terribly keen on). To extrapolate from that a disrespect for the death of those involved is simply idiotic.

6. I did not, have not, and will not, ever say that the terrible sacrifice made by ANY soldier, regardless of which side they fought on, was exagerated or over rated. Asking a human being to risk their lives, to kill and to be killed, is the most terrible, solemn and dreadful thing we can do, and cannot be done lightly. The people who took on that risk, no matter what their motivations, no matter which side they fought on, made a sacrifice that should never be diminished or looked down on. War is a terrible, horrific thing; those who go to it to protect their country and their ideals - there aren't any words to describe how awe-inspiring that sacrifice is. I would NEVER disrespect that sacrifice, by ANY soldier, even if I was personally opposed to what they were fighting for (and as a pacifist, that's pretty much any side of any war.)

What I did say, repeatedly, and I will say it again, is that I dislike it when SOME Americans talk as though ONLY America was responsible for victory in BOTH World War One and World War Two. It is wrong, and it is disrespectful to every other nation that sacrificed its sons in that cause, and it makes America and Americans look bad. All of which are very good reasons to be intensely irritated by it.



It seems to me that you have one hell of a chip on your shoulder, one that leads you to shooting your mouth off and generally making yourself look like an idiot. And yes, it IS people who react the way you have that makes ALL Americans look bad. Just like it's a small group of fuckwits who gave Australians the reputation in Europe of being drunken arseholes, which every Aussie who goes to Europe has to suffer with. So do us all a favour and get over yourself.

Stopping now before I somehow change my user-name to Blueskies2.

[StevePerryHair]

That Eve is always causing SO MUCH trouble

[Arianddu]

That Eve is always causing SO MUCH trouble

Yeah, lippy bastard. Always starting fights then disappearing once the rumble warms up. Betcha he strolls back in once all the furniture's been smashed and the cops have left and tries to look like the hard man.

[Behshad]

[Arianddu]

B, if you say that name three times and she shows up to get involved, I am going to arrange to have your computer hacked into so it does nothing but play ABBA 24-7.

[Michigan Girl]

Since this is our day to remember ...way to go TEAM AMERICA!!

[Arianddu]

Since this is our day to remember ...way to go TEAM AMERICA!!

And good luck and keep safe to every American Service man and woman out there. Here's wishing they all come home safely.

[Michigan Girl]

Since this is our day to remember ...way to go TEAM AMERICA!!

And good luck and keep safe to every American Service man and woman out there. Here's wishing they all come home safely.

Absolutely!! And to correct myself, this isn't thee day ...but everyone knows that!!

[Arianddu]

Since this is our day to remember ...way to go TEAM AMERICA!!

And good luck and keep safe to every American Service man and woman out there. Here's wishing they all come home safely.

Absolutely!! And to correct myself, this isn't thee day ...but everyone knows that!!

Meh, it's a long weekend - the days start to bleed into each other (if you're doing it right )

[Tomulator]

No...you make light of the American contributions throughout the world. You take a "snobby" anti-American view that many Europeans take and try to IGNORE history and FACTS as they relate to the sacrifices this country has made, and continues to make!

Quit "bashing" the USA and btw, war is not some "soccer game" designed for your amusement. Your pithy little comment about Canada being the only country to defeat the USA on our soil is terribly demeaning and shows your lack of appreciation for men killing each other in combat.

Yes, you did imply that the American sacrifices were "overrated" and "exaggerated".

Read what you post!

Do some "digging" will ya on America's contributions to the world in both protection of freedom, worldwide aid, etc.

I am SICK AND TIRED of the "AMERICA-BASHING" that seems to be so popular these days!!!

1. I am Australian, not European. If you had read my original response to Everett, you should know that.

Yes. I realize that. What does that have to do with my comment? Explain please.

2. I'm not anti-American, I'm anti-idiot, especially especially when the idiocy is insulting.

You come off as "anti-American". You insinuate that American's are looked at with "rolled eyes" around the world. Sound familiar?

3. I did not make light of American contributions to the world. Let me say this again, very slowly, so you can maybe understand: SOME... Americans... behave... like... America... is... the... only... country... that... was... involved... in... the... victory... in... World... Wars... One... and... Two. This... makes... Americans... look... bad... and... is... annoying... and... insulting... to... every... other... country... involved.
Get it yet?

Re-read the tone of your posts. They make statements which insinuate that America stood idly by while the rest of the world fought Hitler, only to jump in after the fact and take all the credit. Again...sound familiar?

3. I have not ignored history, or facts, about anything. I haven't made any comment about what the USA has actually done or hasn't done. Nor have I "bashed" the USA. I've spoken about the attitude of certain Americans, NOT about America itself.

Your tone is one of general "disdain" for American "arrogance" and a general "glossing over" of the GOOD that the USA has REPEATEDLY done throughout modern history.

4. What does soccer have to do with anything? And how on earth did you get that I implied war is some kind of amusing game? Let me refresh your memory - this started because I got very annoyed with Eve suggesting that Canada had done nothing to merit honouring the war dead with a day of rememberance. I take the sacrifice of those who died in wars to defend their countries VERY seriously, and get very pissed off when someone implies that a nation has no right or reason to mourn or honour their soldiers and war dead.

Does the little "smiley face" next to your comment about Canada defeating the USA in a war on our soil strike a bell with you?? You seem to take some amount of "satisfaction" from that. Why is that?

5. Canada IS the only country to have defeated the USA in a war, and it DID do so on US soil. That is neither pithy, nor is it disrespectful, it is a simple historical fact (which you seem to be terribly keen on). To extrapolate from that a disrespect for the death of those involved is simply idiotic.

See #4 above.

6. I did not, have not, and will not, ever say that the terrible sacrifice made by ANY soldier, regardless of which side they fought on, was exagerated or over rated. Asking a human being to risk their lives, to kill and to be killed, is the most terrible, solemn and dreadful thing we can do, and cannot be done lightly. The people who took on that risk, no matter what their motivations, no matter which side they fought on, made a sacrifice that should never be diminished or looked down on. War is a terrible, horrific thing; those who go to it to protect their country and their ideals - there aren't any words to describe how awe-inspiring that sacrifice is. I would NEVER disrespect that sacrifice, by ANY soldier, even if I was personally opposed to what they were fighting for (and as a pacifist, that's pretty much any side of any war.)

Was the world incorrect to fight Nazi-ism?

What I did say, repeatedly, and I will say it again, is that I dislike it when SOME Americans talk as though ONLY America was responsible for victory in BOTH World War One and World War Two. It is wrong, and it is disrespectful to every other nation that sacrificed its sons in that cause, and it makes America and Americans look bad. All of which are very good reasons to be intensely irritated by it.



It seems to me that you have one hell of a chip on your shoulder, one that leads you to shooting your mouth off and generally making yourself look like an idiot. And yes, it IS people who react the way you have that makes ALL Americans look bad. Just like it's a small group of fuckwits who gave Australians the reputation in Europe of being drunken arseholes, which every Aussie who goes to Europe has to suffer with. So do us all a favour and get over yourself.

Stopping now before I somehow change my user-name to Blueskies2.

Talk about the "coffee calling the kettle black". You are one of the most "abrasive", "whiney", "argumentative" people on here. You consistently come off as almost "looking for a fight". Someone must have hurt you pretty bad in your life...hopefully you can "get over it" and be a bit more "cheery" as a rule.

[Tomulator]

That Eve is always causing SO MUCH trouble

Yeah, lippy bastard. Always starting fights then disappearing once the rumble warms up. Betcha he strolls back in once all the furniture's been smashed and the cops have left and tries to look like the hard man.

I didn't "go" anywhere. I just have OTHER things which occupy my life other than this forum.

What about you?

[StevePerryHair]

That Eve is always causing SO MUCH trouble

Yeah, lippy bastard. Always starting fights then disappearing once the rumble warms up. Betcha he strolls back in once all the furniture's been smashed and the cops have left and tries to look like the hard man.

I didn't "go" anywhere. I just have OTHER things which occupy my life other than this forum.

What about you?

no! You're not eve!! I'm blaming that young uneducated one for opening the can of worms