Is Disney Trying To Broker A Perry/Journey Reunion?

[RocknRoll]

I didn't see this posted anywhere yet:

Steve Perry and Past & Present members of Journey have been courted by Disney and the producers of Tron Legacy to contribute an original Theme Song for the film. Journey wrote the original song "Only Solutions" for the first Tron movie, although that song ended up in the ending credits.

I saw something about Journey creating a song for the Tron follow-up, but nothing about it being past/present. I'll bet there's been a lot of discussion in the Azzoff/Journey camp if this is true. Would one movie soundtrack be enough for a reunion? I kinda' doubt it.

Oh, please, Journey would be all over it if they were asked to do a new song for the soundtrack of ANY movie right now. If it is for a 'reunion' with Perry, it would be up to Perry deciding he wanted to do it.

Is there anything on the original Tron soundtrack credits that specify this was Journey/Perry? I haven't seen so i'm betting it's just Journey. So if there's talk of an additional song for the legacy version, I would think all they would care about is Journey.

[slucero]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

ok so you and 1 million other people purchased Revelation.... (Revelation sold 1 million give or take). I bought it too... one copy.

prolly 500,000 of those who purchased Revelation were "old Journey fans"..... I'm in that 500,000

that leaves 500,000 "new" fans.... you are in that 500,000


I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans... who have all the SP era stuff...


Until the "new Journey" has:

1. generated 80 Million new fans, with AP and new material.. AND
3: they are no longer playing ANY of the "Dirty Dozen" because they've been replaced with a "new Dirty Dozen", penned with AP

.... then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity... but because that hasn't happened YET.. then the "new Journey" is still dependent on the "old Journey"... which means the "old Journey" is very relevant...

[Since 78]

What is this younger Generation loving about the NEW Journey exactly? It doesn't seem to be their NEW music as the only thing we're hearing on the radio is 25 years old. Who were the YOUNG cast members of Glee so excited about having drop by the set to watch them? That's right, it was the OLD singer of Journey because the only music the Younger fans know is the music the OLD Journey made famous. Revelation is such a great album, huh? How may songs do we hear playing on the radio from that album today? What album just had a nice run on the UK charts, which album is tearing the Dutch charts right now?
Is it the NEW Journey causing all this excitement? Ahh, no. Journey's new singer is about to get down to some serious Karaoke action on his own while the band members all do their own thing. Meanwhile the younger generation can continue to get down to some Old Journey since the NEW Journey didn't see fit to make their new album available on iTunes, the place where the younger generation gets its music. So what do the kids do? They download the Sony stuff which has the OLD Journey on it. These kids don't even know what the new singer's name is, all they know is he looks Asian and sounds like the OLD singer which is what they want since that is the guy who's voice they are hearing on TV and in all the movie soundtracks.
As long as all the Journey singers sound like the guy who Neal said "Brought all the success to the band" all will be right with the world. If you can't create then imitate and that is exactly what the NEW Journey singer is being paid to do.

Sony is loving it. The band left them but the dollars keep rolling in.

If the "Classic Rock" or any Rock Station would play the new music, it might be a different story. Its been a problem since Arrival. The Radio argument doesn't work. iTunes I agree with.

I'm not highlighting Radio play as difference maker, more to point out there isn't really a NEW Journey, just the old Journey with replacement singers. The classics are what define this band. There are no two eras like with Van Halen where you have Diamond Dave and then you have Van Hagar. Both singers having their own stable of VH songs played on the radio, not to mention their own solo efforts as well.

I'm not sure how we even came to this discussion in this thread. Disney probably was just seeking permission to use an older Journey song so they had to contact representatives for the songwriters. If you remember, the original song was bumped to the end credits. It's not like Journey's contribution to the original soundtrack was anything to write home about. Definitely not anything significant enough for them to ask the band to reunite for a follow up effort.

Well...who said there was a new Journey anyway? Some people....

[portland]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

ok so you and 1 million other people purchased Revelation.... (Revelation sold 1 million give or take). I bought it too... one copy.

prolly 500,000 of those who purchased Revelation were "old Journey fans"..... I'm in that 500,000

that leaves 500,000 "new" fans.... you are in that 500,000


I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans... who have all the SP era stuff...


Until the "new Journey" has:

1. generated 80 Million new fans, with AP and new material.. AND
3: they are no longer playing ANY of the "Dirty Dozen" because they've been replaced with a "new Dirty Dozen", penned with AP


.... then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity... but because that hasn't happened YET.. then the "new Journey" is still dependent on the "old Journey"... which means the "old Journey" is very relevant...

OMG..................FINALLY!!!

[Since 78]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

ok so you and 1 million other people purchased Revelation.... (Revelation sold 1 million give or take). I bought it too... one copy.

prolly 500,000 of those who purchased Revelation were "old Journey fans"..... I'm in that 500,000

that leaves 500,000 "new" fans.... you are in that 500,000


I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans... who have all the SP era stuff...


Until the "new Journey" has:

1. generated 80 Million new fans, with AP and new material.. AND
3: they are no longer playing ANY of the "Dirty Dozen" because they've been replaced with a "new Dirty Dozen", penned with AP


.... then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity... but because that hasn't happened YET.. then the "new Journey" is still dependent on the "old Journey"... which means the "old Journey" is very relevant...

OMG..................FINALLY!!!

Oh yes, I am convinced. I will turn in my Pinhead Card immediately!

[portland]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

ok so you and 1 million other people purchased Revelation.... (Revelation sold 1 million give or take). I bought it too... one copy.

prolly 500,000 of those who purchased Revelation were "old Journey fans"..... I'm in that 500,000

that leaves 500,000 "new" fans.... you are in that 500,000


I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans... who have all the SP era stuff...


Until the "new Journey" has:

1. generated 80 Million new fans, with AP and new material.. AND
3: they are no longer playing ANY of the "Dirty Dozen" because they've been replaced with a "new Dirty Dozen", penned with AP


.... then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity... but because that hasn't happened YET.. then the "new Journey" is still dependent on the "old Journey"... which means the "old Journey" is very relevant...

OMG..................FINALLY!!!

Oh yes, I am convinced. I will turn in my Pinhead Card immediately!

No you won't...but at least you are consistant.


and So AM I!!!

[journey361]

There's a rumor floating around there gonna ask Adam Lambert.

[Saint John]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

ok so you and 1 million other people purchased Revelation.... (Revelation sold 1 million give or take). I bought it too... one copy.

prolly 500,000 of those who purchased Revelation were "old Journey fans"..... I'm in that 500,000

that leaves 500,000 "new" fans.... you are in that 500,000


I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans... who have all the SP era stuff...


Until the "new Journey" has:

1. generated 80 Million new fans, with AP and new material.. AND
3: they are no longer playing ANY of the "Dirty Dozen" because they've been replaced with a "new Dirty Dozen", penned with AP

.... then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity... but because that hasn't happened YET.. then the "new Journey" is still dependent on the "old Journey"... which means the "old Journey" is very relevant...

This is a really shitty post because: A) it assumes that the musical climate is the same when it's clearly not. B) It lamely attempts to discredit Revelation's sales when many of the same people bought Journey albums on vinyl, then cassette, cassette again, CD, the re-mastered CDs and the same variations of the same songs yet again (the original albums, GH, The Essential Journey, TIME3 and the re-masters). Unless, of course, you believe that 80 million separate people bought only one of each album. Fail. C) You expect the other artists in the band that made some incredibly timeless music to shelve it because their former singer can't sing anymore.

[wednesday's child]

Thanks for the dose of sanity, Dan.

[slucero]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

ok so you and 1 million other people purchased Revelation.... (Revelation sold 1 million give or take). I bought it too... one copy.

prolly 500,000 of those who purchased Revelation were "old Journey fans"..... I'm in that 500,000

that leaves 500,000 "new" fans.... you are in that 500,000


I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans... who have all the SP era stuff...


Until the "new Journey" has:

1. generated 80 Million new fans, with AP and new material.. AND
3: they are no longer playing ANY of the "Dirty Dozen" because they've been replaced with a "new Dirty Dozen", penned with AP

.... then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity... but because that hasn't happened YET.. then the "new Journey" is still dependent on the "old Journey"... which means the "old Journey" is very relevant...

This is a really shitty post because: A) it assumes that the musical climate is the same when it's clearly not. B) It lamely attempts to discredit Revelation's sales when many of the same people bought Journey albums on vinyl, then cassette, cassette again, CD, the re-mastered CDs and the same variations of the same songs yet again (the original albums, GH, The Essential Journey, TIME3 and the re-masters). Unless, of course, you believe that 80 million separate people bought only one of each album. Fail. C) You expect the other artists in the band that made some incredibly timeless music to shelve it because their former singer can't sing anymore.

This an even shittier response because:

A: I never said the climate was the same....
B: I didn't discredit the sales.. I merely compared them to other Journey album sales. And I bought Revelation... play it all the time. Sushi admitted buying 10 copies of Revelation.. I guess thats allowed but owning multiple versions of the same older material isn't..
C: I never said, and don't don't expect them to stop playing.. (putting words in my mouth?)...

My response was to Sushi calling the "old Journey" as irrelevant simply because they got a new singer..

You on the other hand are simply making up nonsense... post something salient or STFU.

[RocknRoll]

There's a rumor floating around there gonna ask Adam Lambert.

The only rumor I've heard about Adam Lambert is Queen. Wow!!!! You can just insert this guy anywhere.

Photoshop help

[Saint John]

Let's review the facts, shall we?

"80 million new fans" ... total bullshit. You assumed, by this statement, that 80 million Journey fans purchased one, and only one, album. It's called math and it mandates that this be the formula with the details you described!

"No longer playing the (THEIR) Dirty Dozen" ... mindless and unfair to the men that helped create said DD.

And you most certainly did say that they need to achieve 80 million in album sales(80 million fans and 80 million in album sales = 1 album per fan. ). And, unless you have a fucking time machine, asshole, they would have to do it in today's musical climate ... something no band will probably do going forward.

[steveo777]

There's a rumor floating around there gonna ask Adam Lambert.

The only rumor I've heard about Adam Lambert is Queen. Wow!!!! You can just insert this guy anywhere.

Photoshop help

Careful....you can do the same with dildos, tampons and suppositories!

[Arkansas]

....The band does not go back into the studio until November so that is a small window to work with if they are going to have something completed for the soundtrack.

So, why assume that their latest studio time didn't include something for this TRON soundtrack?

I'd bet that this month in the studio wasn't much definitive...maybe a few songs. But if there really is a concept album in the making then this was probably a lot of initial sketching. Taking the year off is to give them ideas on how to complete it in November...if then.



later~

[The Sushi Hunter]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

Hundreds of thousands like you around the world? When put in the context of the millions of legacy fans, you are really not that significant.

Hey Monker, can you say "Has Been" or how about "Washed Up".

[The Sushi Hunter]

I know I really do not make a difference but just to let you know, the first Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was at Wal-Mart. I purchased ten of them, one was for me and the others I handed out to friends of mine who remember meeting Arnel and the AMO Band through me in the 80's. The second Journey Album I purchased in over 25 years was in Tokyo. Both were Revelation. The only Journey songs I have on my ipod and computers is of the brand new material from the Revelation album. Before Arnel became a perminent member of Journey, I didn't know Journey had other singers but SP. In fact I never even heard of JSS or SA until Arnel became a perminent member and I started posting on this site.

Case and Point, that's my deal and I'm so sure that I'm not special and that this exact same story is duplicated throughout the world by hundreds/thousands of Journey fans.

Most importantly, if the day comes that AP is no longer a part of Journey for whatever reason, I'm not going to be the type who'll be relentlessly pissing and moaning about it on here.

Promise???

Mark my words!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Tron's getting a sequel??? Gawd, the first one was ridiculously bad....

I've never even heard of the first one. What was it?

[The Sushi Hunter]

What is this younger Generation loving about the NEW Journey exactly? It doesn't seem to be their NEW music as the only thing we're hearing on the radio is 25 years old. Who were the YOUNG cast members of Glee so excited about having drop by the set to watch them? That's right, it was the OLD singer of Journey because the only music the Younger fans know is the music the OLD Journey made famous. Revelation is such a great album, huh? How may songs do we hear playing on the radio from that album today? What album just had a nice run on the UK charts, which album is tearing the Dutch charts right now?
Is it the NEW Journey causing all this excitement? Ahh, no. Journey's new singer is about to get down to some serious Karaoke action on his own while the band members all do their own thing. Meanwhile the younger generation can continue to get down to some Old Journey since the NEW Journey didn't see fit to make their new album available on iTunes, the place where the younger generation gets its music. So what do the kids do? They download the Sony stuff which has the OLD Journey on it. These kids don't even know what the new singer's name is, all they know is he looks Asian and sounds like the OLD singer which is what they want since that is the guy who's voice they are hearing on TV and in all the movie soundtracks.
As long as all the Journey singers sound like the guy who Neal said "Brought all the success to the band" all will be right with the world. If you can't create then imitate and that is exactly what the NEW Journey singer is being paid to do.

Sony is loving it. The band left them but the dollars keep rolling in.

If the "Classic Rock" or any Rock Station would play the new music, it might be a different story. Its been a problem since Arrival. The Radio argument doesn't work. iTunes I agree with.

If Perry came back, they wouldn't get much play off the new music either. Maybe a song or so. Just the way it is for older bands even with original members. They play the hits. Tears for Fears released a great CD in 2004 and what do they still play, Shout, Everybody Wants to Rule the World and Sowing the Seeds of Love and sometimes Break It Down Again. Look at U2, even with all their albums all the way to this point in time, their newer stuff rarely gets played, save smash hits like Vertigo.

I'm not sure about the other bands mentioned here, but current/recent U2 really stinks in IMOP. I was also very disappointed with the current/most recent Depeche Mode. Motley Crue let out a stinker as well....that "Generation Swine" album. Band's either just get old, worn out or can no longer create attractive music anymore, or...they start crafting their music too much towards their agendas (U2) which turns out the shits.

[The Sushi Hunter]

It's funny how the Perry Loons, Sototarians, Arneliots and Wigglers are always arguing, yet you never hear a word from The Holy Rolie crowd.

I like to think of myself as the "shaker and mover" type.

[The Sushi Hunter]

There's a rumor floating around there gonna ask Adam Lambert.

Ask him for what.....some head?

[slucero]

Let's review the facts, shall we?

"80 million new fans" ... total bullshit. You assumed, by this statement, that 80 million Journey fans purchased one, and only one, album. It's called math and it mandates that this be the formula with the details you described!

"No longer playing the (THEIR) Dirty Dozen" ... mindless and unfair to the men that helped create said DD.

And you most certainly did say that they need to achieve 80 million in album sales(80 million fans and 80 million in album sales = 1 album per fan. ). And, unless you have a fucking time machine, asshole, they would have to do it in today's musical climate ... something no band will probably do going forward.

I don't remember cussing at Sushi... For the record yer the one who started with the cursive language... but apparently yer the cuss-King.... we could have kept a civil debate.. oh well.....

You keep trying to tell me what I'm thinking and posting... and I'm not buying it... asshole.. (see I can cuss too )

I did say 80 million... I DIDN'T say "80 million fans and 80 million in album sales = 1 album per fan"... you have to be reading some other post... I checked mine it doesn't say that..

Since yer nitpicking... lets make it make it HALF... 40 million.. yet it really doesn't matter.. as my point was the new Journey hasn't sold anywhere near the old Journey... (but you already knew that)...

[Sarah]

Tron's getting a sequel??? Gawd, the first one was ridiculously bad....

I too thought Tron was exceedingly boring but I gotta say the sequel looks decent. It's got enough of a cult fanbase to do okay, probably.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1IpPpB3iWI

[Since 78]

Tron's getting a sequel??? Gawd, the first one was ridiculously bad....

I too thought Tron was exceedingly boring but I gotta say the sequel looks decent. It's got enough of a cult fanbase to do okay, probably.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1IpPpB3iWI

Cool, but can you please stay off topic?

[Don]

Looking forward to the sequel. Daft Punk is going to rock the house, yo! Hey, let's start a petition to get the J-Boyz on the soundtrack. We can send the producers a copy of Revelation and some rosary beads. That should do the trick.

[Michigan Girl]

Tron's getting a sequel??? Gawd, the first one was ridiculously bad....

I too thought Tron was exceedingly boring but I gotta say the sequel looks decent. It's got enough of a cult fanbase to do okay, probably.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1IpPpB3iWI

Cool, but can you please stay off topic?

L~ingMAO!!

[Monker]

Is there anything on the original Tron soundtrack credits that specify this was Journey/Perry? I haven't seen so i'm betting it's just Journey. So if there's talk of an additional song for the legacy version, I would think all they would care about is Journey.

that is such an irrelevant question. You are comparing today's Journey to Journey at the peak of their career and popularity. But, even at the peak of their career, "Only Solutions" was NOT that big of a single...if it was not for the box set, many fans may have never heard....and many have probably still not heard it.

Today's Journey need to double their sales by releasing multi-CD 'packages' to hit platinum. Sure, they had a decent selling album...even if you count the sales of the package, instead of doubling it. But, it's still not more successful the Arrival was.

Despite what you may believe, if they wrote a decent tune and Perry sung it...they could release it as a single and it may even chart somehow. If Perry isn't on it, then why should anybody care? When the Armageddon movie and soundtrack came out, Journey had a decent song on it...for maybe 2 seconds in the movie...Not sure it was even released as a single. The fact is, bigger bands (Aerosmith) took the spotlight, even though Journey had a decent song. I would expect the same thing would happen here.

So, I completely disagree that all "they" would care about is the name Journey. They would absolutely care if Perry were in the band and could claim a 'reunion' song is on the soundtrack. Journey wouldn't care at all...being on a hit soundtrack would be a good thing, even they were not released as a single.

[Monker]

There's a rumor floating around there gonna ask Adam Lambert.

Is the movie not coming out in December? If they want 'new' songs, they had better start recording NOW...if they want 'old', already recorded songs, then I spose they could wait...

[Monker]

Let's review the facts, shall we?

"80 million new fans" ... total bullshit. You assumed, by this statement, that 80 million Journey fans purchased one, and only one, album. It's called math and it mandates that this be the formula with the details you described!

"No longer playing the (THEIR) Dirty Dozen" ... mindless and unfair to the men that helped create said DD.

And you most certainly did say that they need to achieve 80 million in album sales(80 million fans and 80 million in album sales = 1 album per fan. ). And, unless you have a fucking time machine, asshole, they would have to do it in today's musical climate ... something no band will probably do going forward.

To bring it down to Earth, what is being said is Arnel needs to accomplish SOMETHING other then making a living off of singing legacy songs. One album that had some success does not equate to an entire career of albums from Infinity thru TBF. If that is all it takes, then Augeri equated Perry as well.

[Michigan Girl]

Yaaayyyy, Monker ...all of the above^^^^^

[Saint John]

To bring it down to Earth, what is being said is Arnel needs to accomplish SOMETHING other then making a living off of singing legacy songs.

He has ... a double Platinum album.


And here is exactly what Slucero said:

I'm also in the 80 MILLION old fans

Well, if they have "80 million old fans" and 80 million in album sales, he is, without question, saying that each Journey fan has only purchased 1 album.

[quote="Slucero]then maybe your point about the "old Journey" not being relevant will have some validity.[/quote]

I have always maintained that the Schon, Perry, Cain, Smith and Valory lineup from 1980-1984 is greatest incarnation of any lineup ever. Which makes me wonder why you brought up the ridiculous notion that I think "old Journey" is not relevant.