Escape = Best Rock Album Ever?

[Rockindeano]

Dean0-- Froy


You want pit bandmembers against each other? Fine by me.

Bruce against Perry? So what, Perry can sing better. He certainly can't write, play or perform better. That's a no brainer. Bruce is arguably the single greatest frontman ever.

Best front man ever No thanks and Perry is one of the top 5 vocalists ever.
that's 1 reason why JRNY beats the hell out of BESB

Smith versus Max? Smith wins.

That's 2

Neal vs. Van Zandt? Neal. Neal vs Nils Lofgren? Think again. Lofgren is one of the best guitarists in the world. E Street has three guitarists to Journey's one.

I will bet ya more people on this earth would recognize a Neal Schon jam compared to any Lofgren jam,
Play a piece they would say that's Neal from Journey the same can't be said about Lofgren.

I won't go on, because it's fucking stupid,

Hey you started it ,

but why is the E Sreet Band considered among the best in the world and you never hear Journey mentioned as such?

Best in the world for what?
Neil Diamonds band is better and Neil Diamond is a better front man and singer compared to Sprinsteen

Just think if I would have nominated Born to Run instead? That's ten times better than BITUSA. Top 5 album ever.

Wrong by miles dude

The Wall
SGT Pepper
Zeppelin 2
Quadrophenia
Dark Side of The Moon

Heck there are many more
BTR is garbage,

Thanks,

You just showed how biased and really fucking stupid you are. LOL, "Born to Run" is garbage. Hilarious dude.

[Arkansas]

AC/DC, 'Back In Black'

Almost anything from Springsteen...Rush too.

Escape best ever? Maybe top-10 at best.



later~

[SF-Dano]

I would say Escape is in the top 20 rock albums of all time. With no ranking beyond that, because personal taste comes into play. I personally would suggest that both AC/DC's Highway to Hell and Back and Black could be the top rock albums, but I am sure others would disagree as it does not suit their tastes. Several Led Zep albums could be there also. Personal tastes play too big a roll in music to rank these things. We could have the same arguements over the worst records ever.

[froy]

"Rockindeano" "froy"

BTR is garbage,

Thanks,

You just showed how biased and really fucking stupid you are. LOL, "Born to Run" is garbage. Hilarious dude.

Side one

1. "Thunder Road" – 4:49
2. "Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out" – 3:11
3. "Night" – 3:00
4. "Backstreets" – 6:30

Side two

1. "Born to Run" – 4:31
2. "She's the One" – 4:30
3. "Meeting Across the River" – 3:18
4. "Jungleland" – 9:34

This is one of the top 5 albums of all time?

Sorry both Frontiers and Escape blow it away
This is what you call an overrated artist who cant's sing if his life depended on it,

The song Born To Run is horrific
I want to die with you Wendy on the The Streets tonight who wa.
The guy sounds like marbles and asleep.

Talk about hilarious.

[Rockindeano]

I never wanted to derail 78's thread, and I did say Escape kicks ass, but you are hell bent on mimicking a top 5 album ever.

Every song on BTR is stellar and a few are masterpieces. Why don't you listen to them rather than ridicule them? Next you are going to tell me The Beatles suck too, right?

Go away. This was a good thread til you ventured in here.

[froy]

I never wanted to derail 78's thread, and I did say Escape kicks ass, but you are hell bent on mimicking a top 5 album ever.

Every song on BTR is stellar and a few are masterpieces. Why don't you listen to them rather than ridicule them? Next you are going to tell me The Beatles suck too, right?

Go away. This was a good thread til you ventured in here.

This thread was good until you brought Springsteen into it,
The bottom line with Bruce is he just can't sing. Same with Tom Petty and the same with Billy Joel.
I know the guy has a huge following and I know he was or is popular but no way can they hold a stick to a Perry lead JRNY
I will bet you a case of MonaVie that more people would say they would go see a Perry lead JRNY concert than they would a Bruce ESB concert.
That's all .

[ChildInTime]

After reading this, I have four points to make:

1. Bruce Springsteen kicks ass; his style of "singing" takes getting used to just like Bob Dylan's, but once you can get into it, he has some amazing stuff.

2. Escape has Open Arms. That's already a fail in my books, that song is pretty much the most melodramatic thing they ever did *gag*.

3. Since I count Frontiers as the original tracklisting (With Ask the Lonely and Only the Young instead of those other two), I would say that the original plan for Frontiers is probably the best Journey album (Tied with Dream After Dream).

4. Comparing The Boss to Journey is basically apples and oranges. Springsteen is lyric-oriented rock; Journey is a pop rock band with a larger focus on the music and instrumentation itself (Instead of lyrics).

[froy]

After reading this, I have four points to make:

1. Bruce Springsteen kicks ass; his style of "singing" takes getting used to just like Bob Dylan's, but once you can get into it, he has some amazing stuff.

Bruce wrote the greatest song that he totally butchered when he sang it. It took Manfred Mann to fix it,
One of my favs I Came For You, awesome tune but not by Bruce,

[Rockindeano]

I never wanted to derail 78's thread, and I did say Escape kicks ass, but you are hell bent on mimicking a top 5 album ever.

Every song on BTR is stellar and a few are masterpieces. Why don't you listen to them rather than ridicule them? Next you are going to tell me The Beatles suck too, right?

Go away. This was a good thread til you ventured in here.

This thread was good until you brought Springsteen into it,
The bottom line with Bruce is he just can't sing. Same with Tom Petty and the same with Billy Joel.
I know the guy has a huge following and I know he was or is popular but no way can they hold a stick to a Perry lead JRNY
I will bet you a case of MonaVie that more people would say they would go see a Perry lead JRNY concert than they would a Bruce ESB concert.
That's all .

Submit yourself to drug testing immediately. Even St John himself would have to admit that even a Perry led Journey couldn't outsell Springsteen. It never happened when they competed against each other in the early 80's, when Journey was playing hockey arenas and Bruce was doing the football stadium tours...and it wouldn't happen now. When Journey with or without Perry can sell out Giants Stadium 10 nights in a row, call me. I will air mail you a case of Monavie. You fuckers are forgetting I love Perry. But sometimes you just have to face facts. Springsteen is the most popular act in music along with U2. It's just fact. Sure if Perry came back, I would beat anyone to the head of the line to see him/them, but even then, they couldn't sustain the popularity of selling out stadiums and headlining festivals. Remember I am not bashing Journey here at all. I simply suggested another album was IMHO better than Escape. Perhaps I shouldn't have used numbers (24 million sold and 7 top ten hits), because whomever said numbers don't mean shit was correct. Reckless has sold 5 million and change(not as much as Escape and I don't think Born to Run is over 6 million either, and IMHO, they are both superior to Escape. Hell, I would put Frontiers ahead of Escape, with or without the two omitted tracks.

[froy]

I never wanted to derail 78's thread, and I did say Escape kicks ass, but you are hell bent on mimicking a top 5 album ever.

Every song on BTR is stellar and a few are masterpieces. Why don't you listen to them rather than ridicule them? Next you are going to tell me The Beatles suck too, right?

Go away. This was a good thread til you ventured in here.

This thread was good until you brought Springsteen into it,
The bottom line with Bruce is he just can't sing. Same with Tom Petty and the same with Billy Joel.
I know the guy has a huge following and I know he was or is popular but no way can they hold a stick to a Perry lead JRNY
I will bet you a case of MonaVie that more people would say they would go see a Perry lead JRNY concert than they would a Bruce ESB concert.
That's all .

Submit yourself to drug testing immediately. Even St John himself would have to admit that even a Perry led Journey couldn't outsell Springsteen. It never happened when they competed against each other in the early 80's, when Journey was playing hockey arenas and Bruce was doing the football stadium tours...and it wouldn't happen now. When Journey with or without Perry can sell out Giants Stadium 10 nights in a row, call me. I will air mail you a case of Monavie. You fuckers are forgetting I love Perry. But sometimes you just have to face facts. Springsteen is the most popular act in music along with U2. It's just fact. Sure if Perry came back, I would beat anyone to the head of the line to see him/them, but even then, they couldn't sustain the popularity of selling out stadiums and headlining festivals. Remember I am not bashing Journey here at all. I simply suggested another album was IMHO better than Escape. Perhaps I shouldn't have used numbers (24 million sold and 7 top ten hits), because whomever said numbers don't mean shit was correct. Reckless has sold 5 million and change(not as much as Escape and I don't think Born to Run is over 6 million either, and IMHO, they are both superior to Escape. Hell, I would put Frontiers ahead of Escape, with or without the two omitted tracks.

I am totally aware of how popular Bruce Sprinsteen is in NJ it's like Bob Seger in Michigan. Would Bruce sell out 10 nights at Soldiers Field in Chicago No
Fact is Journey sold out the Rose Bowl so stadiums were on there list of sell outs. If you can't get past the vocals of Bruce, Bob Dylan or Tom Petty you just simply can't listen. That's where Im at with these guys,

[Rockindeano]

I never wanted to derail 78's thread, and I did say Escape kicks ass, but you are hell bent on mimicking a top 5 album ever.

Every song on BTR is stellar and a few are masterpieces. Why don't you listen to them rather than ridicule them? Next you are going to tell me The Beatles suck too, right?

Go away. This was a good thread til you ventured in here.

This thread was good until you brought Springsteen into it,
The bottom line with Bruce is he just can't sing. Same with Tom Petty and the same with Billy Joel.
I know the guy has a huge following and I know he was or is popular but no way can they hold a stick to a Perry lead JRNY
I will bet you a case of MonaVie that more people would say they would go see a Perry lead JRNY concert than they would a Bruce ESB concert.
That's all .

Submit yourself to drug testing immediately. Even St John himself would have to admit that even a Perry led Journey couldn't outsell Springsteen. It never happened when they competed against each other in the early 80's, when Journey was playing hockey arenas and Bruce was doing the football stadium tours...and it wouldn't happen now. When Journey with or without Perry can sell out Giants Stadium 10 nights in a row, call me. I will air mail you a case of Monavie. You fuckers are forgetting I love Perry. But sometimes you just have to face facts. Springsteen is the most popular act in music along with U2. It's just fact. Sure if Perry came back, I would beat anyone to the head of the line to see him/them, but even then, they couldn't sustain the popularity of selling out stadiums and headlining festivals. Remember I am not bashing Journey here at all. I simply suggested another album was IMHO better than Escape. Perhaps I shouldn't have used numbers (24 million sold and 7 top ten hits), because whomever said numbers don't mean shit was correct. Reckless has sold 5 million and change(not as much as Escape and I don't think Born to Run is over 6 million either, and IMHO, they are both superior to Escape. Hell, I would put Frontiers ahead of Escape, with or without the two omitted tracks.

I am totally aware of how popular Bruce Sprinsteen is in NJ it's like Bob Seger in Michigan. Would Bruce sell out 10 nights at Soldiers Field in Chicago No
Fact is Journey sold out the Rose Bowl so stadiums were on there list of sell outs. If you can't get past the vocals of Bruce, Bob Dylan or Tom Petty you just simply can't listen. That's where Im at with these guys,

My very last comment to you on Bruce v Journey.

Firstly, Bruce is much better vocalist than Dylan or Petty. I think Dylan sucks.
Secondly, he is a helluva live singer. I have never seen perry or any other singer do 4 hour shows, and sometimes 5 hr gigs...and he has improved every year for thirty years. The same cannot be said for many other singers, sadly Perry included. You should actually listen to one live fucking song so you would know. Shit, I would assume you at least watched the Super Bowl halftime show?

Despite what Deb says, vocals isn't the only thing that matters in music.

Just watch next week when the new live DVD comes out and see where it debuts. It will easily outsell the Journey DVD of last year.

[kgdjpubs]

After reading this, I have four points to make:

1. Bruce Springsteen kicks ass; his style of "singing" takes getting used to just like Bob Dylan's, but once you can get into it, he has some amazing stuff.

Bruce wrote the greatest song that he totally butchered when he sang it. It took Manfred Mann to fix it,
One of my favs I Came For You, awesome tune but not by Bruce,

Bruce got considerably better over the years.....which is a good thing. It was the only way he could go!

As far as Dylan....very good songwriter, but I don't think what he does is considered singing. Otherwise, I might have to revisit my idea of a singing career. He's proof positive that being able to sing is NOT a requirement for being a singer.

[Jana]

I never wanted to derail 78's thread, and I did say Escape kicks ass, but you are hell bent on mimicking a top 5 album ever.

Every song on BTR is stellar and a few are masterpieces. Why don't you listen to them rather than ridicule them? Next you are going to tell me The Beatles suck too, right?

Go away. This was a good thread til you ventured in here.

This thread was good until you brought Springsteen into it,
The bottom line with Bruce is he just can't sing. Same with Tom Petty and the same with Billy Joel.
I know the guy has a huge following and I know he was or is popular but no way can they hold a stick to a Perry lead JRNY
I will bet you a case of MonaVie that more people would say they would go see a Perry lead JRNY concert than they would a Bruce ESB concert.
That's all .

Submit yourself to drug testing immediately. Even St John himself would have to admit that even a Perry led Journey couldn't outsell Springsteen. It never happened when they competed against each other in the early 80's, when Journey was playing hockey arenas and Bruce was doing the football stadium tours...and it wouldn't happen now. When Journey with or without Perry can sell out Giants Stadium 10 nights in a row, call me. I will air mail you a case of Monavie. You fuckers are forgetting I love Perry. But sometimes you just have to face facts. Springsteen is the most popular act in music along with U2. It's just fact. Sure if Perry came back, I would beat anyone to the head of the line to see him/them, but even then, they couldn't sustain the popularity of selling out stadiums and headlining festivals. Remember I am not bashing Journey here at all. I simply suggested another album was IMHO better than Escape. Perhaps I shouldn't have used numbers (24 million sold and 7 top ten hits), because whomever said numbers don't mean shit was correct. Reckless has sold 5 million and change(not as much as Escape and I don't think Born to Run is over 6 million either, and IMHO, they are both superior to Escape. Hell, I would put Frontiers ahead of Escape, with or without the two omitted tracks.

Exactly. Bruce has been working his a.. off for the fans for years touring and releasing new music, very visible, still creating great music, and has built up a huge fan base of all ages. Same with U2. Journey even with Perry would never draw the numbers Bruce and U2 do. Journey present and even a Perry led Journey is still considered an '80s act to most. To the majority of fans, he dropped off the face of the earth after the late 80s.

I think I stated a long time ago on some thread that Born To Run was the best album of the 80s. It was brilliant. And I'm not even a huge Springsteen fan as far as following him, except downloading all the songs I like of his on my iPod, which there are some are masterpieces, for sure.

[ChildInTime]

^
There's a reason I put "singing" in quotation marks!!

And I disagree, I like Bruce Springsteen's version of Blinded by the Light WAAAAAY better than Mannfred Mann's. I mean, at least bruce doesn't sound like he's saying "wrapped up like a douche another roener in the night".

[Michigan Girl]

I've been listening to Escape quite a bit lately and have decided that it is the Best Rock Album ever.
How can you beat this?

1. "Don't Stop Believin'"
2. "Stone in Love"
3. "Who's Crying Now"
4. "Keep on Runnin'"
5. "Still They Ride"
6. "Escape"
7. "Lay It Down"
8. "Dead or Alive"
9. "Mother, Father"
10. "Open Arms"

What do think Peeps?

One of the greatest, IMO, yes!! It ranks right up there!! There are other Journey LP's
that I prefer ...

[Since 78]

I've been listening to Escape quite a bit lately and have decided that it is the Best Rock Album ever.
How can you beat this?

1. "Don't Stop Believin'"
2. "Stone in Love"
3. "Who's Crying Now"
4. "Keep on Runnin'"
5. "Still They Ride"
6. "Escape"
7. "Lay It Down"
8. "Dead or Alive"
9. "Mother, Father"
10. "Open Arms"

What do think Peeps?

One of the greatest, IMO, yes!! It ranks right up there!! There are other Journey LP's
that I prefer ...

Revelation?

[Michigan Girl]

I've been listening to Escape quite a bit lately and have decided that it is the Best Rock Album ever.
How can you beat this?

1. "Don't Stop Believin'"
2. "Stone in Love"
3. "Who's Crying Now"
4. "Keep on Runnin'"
5. "Still They Ride"
6. "Escape"
7. "Lay It Down"
8. "Dead or Alive"
9. "Mother, Father"
10. "Open Arms"

What do think Peeps?

One of the greatest, IMO, yes!! It ranks right up there!! There are other Journey LP's
that I prefer ...

Revelation?

lol ...I like Glee better than that!!!

[kgdjpubs]

^
There's a reason I put "singing" in quotation marks!!

that's still pushing the definition well beyond acceptable limits!

[Since 78]

I've been listening to Escape quite a bit lately and have decided that it is the Best Rock Album ever.
How can you beat this?

1. "Don't Stop Believin'"
2. "Stone in Love"
3. "Who's Crying Now"
4. "Keep on Runnin'"
5. "Still They Ride"
6. "Escape"
7. "Lay It Down"
8. "Dead or Alive"
9. "Mother, Father"
10. "Open Arms"

What do think Peeps?

One of the greatest, IMO, yes!! It ranks right up there!! There are other Journey LP's
that I prefer ...

Revelation?

lol ...I like Glee better than that!!!

Ouch!

[froy]

^
There's a reason I put "singing" in quotation marks!!

And I disagree, I like Bruce Springsteen's version of Blinded by the Light WAAAAAY better than Mannfred Mann's. I mean, at least bruce doesn't sound like he's saying "wrapped up like a douche another roener in the night".

I said For You not Blinded By The Light,

[The Sushi Hunter]

I was thinking about this thread today during my drive into work, but I was listening to Aerosmith on my ipod through my car's stereo system. Journey is good and the years they had Perry in it, they did have some really good tunes going. But to me anyways, I have more feeling for Aerosmith as a band then I do Journey. What I think sets Aerosmith apart from Journey is, Journey has gone through a number of lead singers over the years. Aerosmith hasn't. Steven Tyler is in my opinion much better then SP ever was. Not only as a solid performer for decades but also most of the songs he sings are killer and he can still sing and still does. I dig Aerosmith today more then I do SP Journey. Tyler along with the rest of Aerosmith is kick-ass!

[froy]

I was thinking about this thread today during my drive into work, but I was listening to Aerosmith on my ipod through my car's stereo system. Journey is good and the years they had Perry in it, they did have some really good tunes going. But to me anyways, I have more feeling for Aerosmith as a band then I do Journey. What I think sets Aerosmith apart from Journey is, Journey has gone through a number of lead singers over the years. Aerosmith hasn't. Steven Tyler is in my opinion much better then SP ever was. Not only as a solid performer for decades but also most of the songs he sings are killer and he can still sing and still does. I dig Aerosmith today more then I do SP Journey. Tyler along with the rest of Aerosmith is kick-ass!

Im not even going to touch this one.

[Ehwmatt]

Count me in the Frontiers > Escape crowd.

[Andrew]

I was thinking about this thread today during my drive into work, but I was listening to Aerosmith on my ipod through my car's stereo system. Journey is good and the years they had Perry in it, they did have some really good tunes going. But to me anyways, I have more feeling for Aerosmith as a band then I do Journey. What I think sets Aerosmith apart from Journey is, Journey has gone through a number of lead singers over the years. Aerosmith hasn't. Steven Tyler is in my opinion much better then SP ever was. Not only as a solid performer for decades but also most of the songs he sings are killer and he can still sing and still does. I dig Aerosmith today more then I do SP Journey. Tyler along with the rest of Aerosmith is kick-ass!

Im not even going to touch this one.

Go back to the Styx forum and annoy the folks there.

[Peartree12249]

I love Escape and listen to it all the time, but greatest rock album of all time? No way. I'd have to go with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon, Led Zeppelin IV or Who's Next.

[annie89509]

(sigh)! So many diehards dislike OA. True, syrupy as hell... but still great Journey song (imo); great SP vocals (one of his very best)...so what if Neal didn't have anything to do!?

Don't know about BEST rock album (I don't own that many)...but definitely a classic rock
masterpiece.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I love Escape and listen to it all the time, but greatest rock album of all time? No way. I'd have to go with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon, Led Zeppelin IV or Who's Next.

Yeah, Dark Side Of The Moon is one of my all time favorites for sure and it really has a special place in my.....history that I will always remember for the rest of my life and the chick I was with at the time. I mentioned this some time back and a bunch of people mentioned they are tired of hearing it on the radio during those entire album air play deals.

[Lula]

escape? eh, not so much. i hated seeing gregg rolie leave the band. i prefer frontiers to escape, but infinity, evolution and departure are the best to my ears. oh and captured rocks!!

[Michigan Girl]

I love Escape and listen to it all the time, but greatest rock album of all time? No way. I'd have to go with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon, Led Zeppelin IV or Who's Next.

Yeah, Dark Side Of The Moon is one of my all time favorites for sure and it really has a special place in my.....history that I will always remember for the rest of my life and the chick I was with at the time. I mentioned this some time back and a bunch of people mentioned they are tired of hearing it on the radio during those entire album air play deals.

I didn't think you were allowed to have a ...history, the wifey isn't going to like
reading about this ...

[Since 78]

I love Escape and listen to it all the time, but greatest rock album of all time? No way. I'd have to go with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon, Led Zeppelin IV or Who's Next.

Again, I mean the number of hits or memorable songs on the album. Escape has a bunch, Dark Side of the Moon? Ive only heard a couple of those songs. Now, Who's Next, you have a great argument there, stellar track list.