Oil Spill Devastation

[ohsherrie]

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me exactly what the president was supposed to do. I'll guarantee that no matter what he'd done, short of running into a port-a-john and coming out as Aquaman and saving the day, the rethugs would have started the same smear campaign as they did by calling it Obama's Katrina making that the MSM's chant.

I personally prefer a president who evaluates situations calmly and rationally before making a decision rather than one who shoots nuk-you-ler bombs from the hip like Dumbya.

[7 Wishes]

I have no idea how anyone could have interpreted what I posted as a suggestion that all non-white Louisianans are prejudiced. Read Dean's post.

Anyway, I think Obama needs to get more specific with respect to how the government is going to help get things moving, and how the hell we're going to convince wealthy industrialists to invest in cleaner technologies. He's trying to be overly Moderate. Grab the bull by the horns, man!

[Saint John]

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me exactly what the president was supposed to do.

He should have immediately opened a line of communication with Bobby Jindal and been there within 36 hours to survey the damage and get a firsthand look. He should have then accepted help from the Dutch, purchased (later to be reimbursed by BP) the 42,000 feet of boom that Packgen is capable of manufacturing daily and made every attempt to not let that oil reach the shore. Instead, he did nothing.

"Four weeks ago, in four days, Packgen manufactured 80,000 feet of boom, though neither the government nor BP had placed any orders for boom with his company."

[The Sushi Hunter]

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me exactly what the president was supposed to do.

He should have immediately opened a line of communication with Bobby Jindal and been there within 36 hours to survey the damage and get a firsthand look. He should have then accepted help from the Dutch, purchased (later to be reimbursed by BP) the 42,000 feet of boom that Packgen is capable of manufacturing daily and made every attempt to not let that oil reach the shore. Instead, he did nothing.

"Four weeks ago, in four days, Packgen manufactured 80,000 feet of boom, though neither the government nor BP had placed any orders for boom with his company."

I hope somebody keeps an eye on all the claims, you know everybody and their brother is now a shrimper or fisherman or something related to this. The claims need to be backed up with prior year tax returns or a paycheck stubs before anyone collects a dollar.

The other kick in the ass is now The Won has laid off another 120,000 jobs with his drilling moratoriam for 6 months.

Great points. I got a feeling most of these "Fishermen" are going to get more then what they had before the issue, much like what happened with Katrina.

As for the jobs lost, that isn't good news, especially this will probably give the oil companies reason to jack prices up again like they were in 2007, and even higher. I can see a new gas tax being attached to fuel purchases, to help fund cleanup efforts. It's all fucked up.

[7 Wishes]

Louisiana has only voted Democratic three times since 1960. That's 50 years.

Keep fishing, LiePaster. You're bound to stumble across a half-truth eventually.

[RossValoryRocks]

I guess you would rather have us, the fucking taxpayer pay, for someone else's bullshit.

Why not...you want us to pay for YOUR healthcare and other assorted entitlements don't you? Do I REALLY have to go back and get all your posts where you advocated just that?

[7 Wishes]

LiePaster, source? That random copy and paste job has nothing to do with anything. You really are a loon.

[7 Wishes]

I guess you would rather have us, the fucking taxpayer pay, for someone else's bullshit.

Why not...you want us to pay for YOUR healthcare and other assorted entitlements don't you? Do I REALLY have to go back and get all your posts where you advocated just that?

Except that the system we have now does NOT WORK, and the new plan will save money in the long term. NOT the same thing, at ALL.

[Michigan Girl]

Francis T. Nicholls January 8, 1877 January 14, 1880 Democratic [19]
29 Louis A. Wiltz January 14, 1880 October 16, 1881 Democratic [4]
30 Samuel D. McEnery October 16, 1881 May 20, 1888 Democratic [20]
Francis T. Nicholls May 20, 1888 May 10, 1892 Democratic
31 Murphy J. Foster May 10, 1892 May 8, 1900 Democratic [21]
32 William W. Heard May 8, 1900 May 10, 1904 Democratic
33 Newton C. Blanchard May 10, 1904 May 12, 1908 Democratic
34 Jared Y. Sanders, Sr. May 12, 1908 May 14, 1912 Democratic [22]
35 Luther E. Hall May 14, 1912 May 9, 1916 Democratic
36 Ruffin G. Pleasant May 9, 1916 May 11, 1920 Democratic
37 John M. Parker May 11, 1920 May 13, 1924 Democratic
38 Henry L. Fuqua May 13, 1924 October 11, 1926 Democratic [4]
39 Oramel H. Simpson October 11, 1926 May 21, 1928 Democratic [16]
40 Huey Pierce Long May 21, 1928 January 25, 1932 Democratic [23][24]
41 Alvin Olin King January 25, 1932 May 10, 1932 Democratic [16][25]
42 Oscar Kelly (O.K.) Allen May 10, 1932 January 28, 1936 Democratic [4]
43 James A. Noe January 28, 1936 May 12, 1936 Democratic [16]
44 Richard W. Leche May 12, 1936 June 26, 1939 Democratic [26]
45 Earl K. Long June 26, 1939 May 14, 1940 Democratic [16]
46 Sam H. Jones May 14, 1940 May 9, 1944 Democratic
47 Jimmie H. Davis May 9, 1944 May 11, 1948 Democratic
Earl K. Long May 11, 1948 May 13, 1952 Democratic
48 Robert F. Kennon May 13, 1952 May 8, 1956 Democratic
Earl K. Long May 8, 1956 May 10, 1960 Democratic
Jimmie H. Davis May 10, 1960 May 12, 1964 Democratic
49 John J. McKeithen May 12, 1964 May 2, 1972 Democratic [27]
50 Edwin W. Edwards May 9, 1972 March 10, 1980 Democratic
51 David C. Treen March 10, 1980 March 12, 1984 Republican
Edwin W. Edwards March 12, 1984 March 14, 1988 Democratic
52 Charles E. (Buddy) Roemer III March 14, 1988 August 1991 Democratic
Charles E. (Buddy) Roemer III August 1991 January 13, 1992 Republican [28]
Edwin W. Edwards January 13, 1992 January 8, 1996 Democratic
53 Murphy J. (Mike) Foster, Jr. January 8, 1996 January 12, 2004 Republican
54 Kathleen Babineaux Blanco January 12, 2004 January 14, 2008 Democratic
55[29] Piyush "Bobby" Jindal January 14, 2008 Incumbent Republican

Looks right to me ...very colorful bunch!!

[RossValoryRocks]

I guess you would rather have us, the fucking taxpayer pay, for someone else's bullshit.

Why not...you want us to pay for YOUR healthcare and other assorted entitlements don't you? Do I REALLY have to go back and get all your posts where you advocated just that?

Except that the system we have now does NOT WORK, and the new plan will save money in the long term. NOT the same thing, at ALL.

It might save YOU money...but it is going to cost ME a bundle in HIGHER premiums and HIGHER taxes to pay for it...Also the CBO has since redacted the original numbers and has shown it WILL COST MONEY, a LOT OF MONEY...it is going to EXPLODE the debt beyond the wildest dreams of anyone...that someone (i.e. US as in you and I, and our great, great, great grandchildren evidently)has to pay for it.

Quit reading the Huffington Post dude...you are smarter than that...Try the AP, Reuters...they a pretty much non-political...just straight facts...

[The Sushi Hunter]

Except that the system we have now does NOT WORK, and the new plan will save money in the long term. NOT the same thing, at ALL.

Yeah, that's what all the politicians have been saying for years and it's still not fixed anything.

[donnaplease]

I'm sitting on my balcony at Myrtle Beach watching the sun come up over the horizon, and I'm very saddened for the folks down on the Gulf shoreline.

[Babyblue]

I'm sitting on my balcony at Myrtle Beach watching the sun come up over the horizon, and I'm very saddened for the folks down on the Gulf shoreline.

It makes me so sick.It will be in Panama City on Sat.All any of us can do is pray & i am doing alot of it.I will not watch the news about it anymore. The sealife & the birds & people out of jobs.Breaks my heart in to.

[ohsherrie]

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me exactly what the president was supposed to do.

He should have immediately opened a line of communication with Bobby Jindal and been there within 36 hours to survey the damage and get a firsthand look. He should have then accepted help from the Dutch, purchased (later to be reimbursed by BP) the 42,000 feet of boom that Packgen is capable of manufacturing daily and made every attempt to not let that oil reach the shore. Instead, he did nothing.

"Four weeks ago, in four days, Packgen manufactured 80,000 feet of boom, though neither the government nor BP had placed any orders for boom with his company."

Twenty-twenty hind sight. He was IMMEDIATELY assured that the spill would be insignificant and that the perpetrators, BP, had it well under control. People started putting boon out immediately and I haven't heard anything about there being a shortage.

[ohsherrie]

Last 10 Elections ( State voted with the overall winning candidate)
1972
R
[Winner: Richard M. Nixon] 1976
D
[Winner: Jimmy Carter] 1980
R
[Winner: Ronald Reagan] 1984
R
[Winner: Ronald Reagan] 1988
R
[Winner: George Bush] 1992
D
[Winner: William J. Clinton] 1996
D
[Winner: William J. Clinton] 2000
R
[Winner: George W. Bush] 2004
R
[Winner: George W. Bush] 2008
R

[ohsherrie]

What part of the poll that stated,

"50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

What part of racial bias in the deep south don't you understand? I'm sure the pollsters knew where to find enough blue dogs to give their poll the appearance of being "fair and balanced" but they relied on the republican base to give the results that they wanted. How do you think Faux News can get the exact opposite poll results as the New York Times and the Washington Post? It's all a game intended to sway public opinion more than to reflect it.

There may truly be some completely unbiased polling going on by groups like Gallup but the partisan pollsters tend to skew even them by swaying people's opinions. There are a LOT of people who let people like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and Palin tell them what to think and what their opinions should be and making it seem right with their "poll results".

[Saint John]

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me exactly what the president was supposed to do.

He should have immediately opened a line of communication with Bobby Jindal and been there within 36 hours to survey the damage and get a firsthand look. He should have then accepted help from the Dutch, purchased (later to be reimbursed by BP) the 42,000 feet of boom that Packgen is capable of manufacturing daily and made every attempt to not let that oil reach the shore. Instead, he did nothing.

"Four weeks ago, in four days, Packgen manufactured 80,000 feet of boom, though neither the government nor BP had placed any orders for boom with his company."

Twenty-twenty hind sight. He was IMMEDIATELY assured that the spill would be insignificant and that the perpetrators, BP, had it well under control. People started putting boon out immediately and I haven't heard anything about there being a shortage.

The people that Katrina affected were given a one week warning and president Bush wasn't given a break for their idiocy. Besides, I remember hearing "immediately" that this leak was something that was gonna take months to fix. Hindsight has nothing to do with this. People knew this was going to be an ecological disaster from day 1.

[ohsherrie]

The people that Katrina affected were given a one week warning and president Bush wasn't given a break for their idiocy. Besides, I remember hearing "immediately" that this leak was something that was gonna take months to fix. Hindsight has nothing to do with this. People knew this was going to be an ecological disaster from day 1.

Yes, New Orleans had one week warning so why didn't Bushie and Brownie know that the appropriate actions weren't being taken? I fully realize that the first failure was on the part of the people and local & state government who either ignored the warnings or sat there waiting for somebody to take care of things for them. However, if Bushie and Brownie had been on top of the situation they would have known that little or no protective measures were being taken and gotten things moving.

No, on day one everybody believed that things were under control and the well had been stopped by the mechanism that was designed and built by Haliburton for that purpose. Everybody believed that all appropriate measures were being taken. It was several days before it was apparent that the mechanism either failed or just wasn't on the rig and we had a major catastrophe on our hands.

As for your suggestion about calling in the Dutch and buying boon, parrot Palin much? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/1 ... 14299.html



The one thing that I think we can all agree on is that we have to get the oil industry, as well as their brother drug, insurance and gun lobbies out of our government, see below.



WASHINGTON — A look at how much members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee received in political contributions from oil and gas interests since the beginning of 2009. Contributions are from political action committees run by oil and gas companies and from individuals employed by those companies.

Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., none

John Barrow, D-Ga., $31,500

Joe Barton, R-Texas, $100,470

Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., $33,500

Roy Blunt, R-Mo., $133,100

Mary Bono Mack, R-Calif., $5,750

Rick Boucher, D-Va., $36,000

Bruce Braley, D-Iowa, none

[Michigan Girl]

People had been warned before Katrina, that rescue would likely be impossible because of the ferocious and awesome power this storm would possess. Some people stayed even after hearing this warning, risking their own lives
and the lives of the rescuers!!!

President Bush personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation.
Everyone was asked to leave the area, many choose not to.
I suppose Bushie and Brownie could have made a trip to LA, MS and TX and
personally removed each idiot ...

I will continue to defend Bush on the subject of Katrina until my death ...

[Rockindeano]

People had been warned before Katrina, that rescue would likely be impossible because of the ferocious and awesome power this storm would possess. Some people stayed even after hearing this warning, risking their own lives
and the lives of the rescuers!!!

President Bush personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation.
Everyone was asked to leave the area, many choose not to.
I suppose Bushie and Brownie could have made a trip to LA, MS and TX and
personally removed each idiot ...

I will continue to defend Bush on the subject of Katrina until my death ...

So because many foolishly lingered behind, and didn't accept precautionary warnings and leave(mind you many don't have cars or a dollar to their name), that forgives the Federal Government's half assed response post storm? You mean to tell me that just because Bushie wanted an evacuation, that because people didn't heed his advice, no water, food or health services could be deployed after Katrina hit? Think back to people not having a bottle of water...or a bite of food, and people dying right on the street. It's disgusting what the Feds did not do post storm, regardless of who didn't evacuate. It's still the American people who suffered a tremendous fate, and it was largely because the Federal effort was so piss poor, people in a 1st world country died. Congratulations on defending the worst ever natural disaster relief effort. How can anyone be proud of Bush and Brownie is beyond me.

[Michigan Girl]

People had been warned before Katrina, that rescue would likely be impossible because of the ferocious and awesome power this storm would possess. Some people stayed even after hearing this warning, risking their own lives
and the lives of the rescuers!!!

President Bush personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation.
Everyone was asked to leave the area, many choose not to.
I suppose Bushie and Brownie could have made a trip to LA, MS and TX an
personally removed each idiot ...
I will continue to defend Bush on the subject of Katrina until my death ...

So because many foolishly lingered behind, and didn't accept precautionary warnings and leave(mind you many don't have cars or a dollar to their name), that forgives the Federal Government's half assed response post storm? You mean to tell me that just because Bushie wanted an evacuation, that because people didn't heed his advice, no water, food or health services could be deployed after Katrina hit? Think back to people not having a bottle of water...or a bite of food, and people dying right on the street. It's disgusting what the Feds did not do post storm, regardless of who didn't evacuate. It's still the American people who suffered a tremendous fate, and it was largely because the Federal effort was so piss poor, people in a 1st world country died. Congratulations on defending the worst ever natural disaster relief effort. How can anyone be proud of Bush and Brownie is beyond me.

And I will continue to defend the actions of the Federal G,
they acted as quickly as they could given the information they received from the State G ...there-in lies the majority of
the blame!! The people without transportation were offered transportation ...everything w/wheels and wings were being sent in from all over the state, some chose to take the ride others didn't. That window of opportunity was only available as long as it was safe for the drivers/people being brought in to help. Bottles of water, my ass ...many of those people only cared
about the shopping sprees they were going to take in light of their recently evacuated city!! There was help, there was free shelter, food, clothing and everything they needed for themselves and their loved ones in upstate LA, for a fact...they just had to say, OK!! The owner of my company personally flew his plane back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until there was noone else to bring ...and the window was still open!! One can only help people who are willing to help themselves ...the exceptions being THE SICK, THE ELDERLY, THE CHILDREN, THE ANIMALS!! I am FURIOUS as hell about the sick, the elderly, the children
and the animals ...I would like to know why our local government didn't take care of it's hospitals and senior citizens IMMEDIATELY!! I'm willing to bet that if the people on the oil rig had a weeks notice that the rig was going to blow,
their asses would have been on a boat before you could say "kaboom" ...

[Rockindeano]

People had been warned before Katrina, that rescue would likely be impossible because of the ferocious and awesome power this storm would possess. Some people stayed even after hearing this warning, risking their own lives
and the lives of the rescuers!!!

President Bush personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation.
Everyone was asked to leave the area, many choose not to.
I suppose Bushie and Brownie could have made a trip to LA, MS and TX an
personally removed each idiot ...
I will continue to defend Bush on the subject of Katrina until my death ...

So because many foolishly lingered behind, and didn't accept precautionary warnings and leave(mind you many don't have cars or a dollar to their name), that forgives the Federal Government's half assed response post storm? You mean to tell me that just because Bushie wanted an evacuation, that because people didn't heed his advice, no water, food or health services could be deployed after Katrina hit? Think back to people not having a bottle of water...or a bite of food, and people dying right on the street. It's disgusting what the Feds did not do post storm, regardless of who didn't evacuate. It's still the American people who suffered a tremendous fate, and it was largely because the Federal effort was so piss poor, people in a 1st world country died. Congratulations on defending the worst ever natural disaster relief effort. How can anyone be proud of Bush and Brownie is beyond me.

And I will continue to defend the actions of the Federal G,
they acted as quickly as they could given the information they received from the State G ...there-in lies the majority of
the blame!! The people without transportation were offered transportation ...everything w/wheels and wings were being sent in from all over the state, some chose to take the ride others didn't. That window of opportunity was only available as long as it was safe for the drivers/people being brought in to help. Bottles of water, my ass ...many of those people only cared
about the shopping sprees they were going to take in light of their recently evacuated city!! There was help, there was free shelter, food, clothing and everything they needed for themselves and their loved ones in upstate LA, for a fact...they just had to say, OK!! The owner of my company personally flew his plane back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until there was noone else to bring ...and the window was still open!! One can only help people who are willing to help themselves ...the exceptions being THE SICK, THE ELDERLY, THE CHILDREN, THE ANIMALS!! I am FURIOUS as hell about the sick, the elderly, the children
and the animals ...I would like to know why our local government didn't take care of it's hospitals and senior citizens IMMEDIATELY!! I'm willing to bet that if the people on the oil rig had a weeks notice that the rig was going to blow,
their asses would have been on a boat before you could say "kaboom" ...

Coug,

I recall the crack rescue squad from Canada, the best in the world, being in boats in New Orleans saving American souls before any American piece of equipment. The US Fed Gov't took the dick on Katrina. This is the United fucking States. People should not die because of a storm. This isn't Guatemala. Now I do agree that many who only desired to exercise in the form of looting are assholes, but not everyone was Hell bent on doing that. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I was embarrassed for America during Katrina.

[Michigan Girl]

People should not die because of a storm!?! God, if only that statement were so ...what about all of the people
who were killed recently in Ark?!?! Tell that to the women here who lost husbands
and children. Is that the fault of the big "O"?!?! ...DUHAMN!!!

[lights1961]

People had been warned before Katrina, that rescue would likely be impossible because of the ferocious and awesome power this storm would possess. Some people stayed even after hearing this warning, risking their own lives
and the lives of the rescuers!!!

President Bush personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation.
Everyone was asked to leave the area, many choose not to.
I suppose Bushie and Brownie could have made a trip to LA, MS and TX an
personally removed each idiot ...
I will continue to defend Bush on the subject of Katrina until my death ...

So because many foolishly lingered behind, and didn't accept precautionary warnings and leave(mind you many don't have cars or a dollar to their name), that forgives the Federal Government's half assed response post storm? You mean to tell me that just because Bushie wanted an evacuation, that because people didn't heed his advice, no water, food or health services could be deployed after Katrina hit? Think back to people not having a bottle of water...or a bite of food, and people dying right on the street. It's disgusting what the Feds did not do post storm, regardless of who didn't evacuate. It's still the American people who suffered a tremendous fate, and it was largely because the Federal effort was so piss poor, people in a 1st world country died. Congratulations on defending the worst ever natural disaster relief effort. How can anyone be proud of Bush and Brownie is beyond me.

And I will continue to defend the actions of the Federal G,
they acted as quickly as they could given the information they received from the State G ...there-in lies the majority of
the blame!! The people without transportation were offered transportation ...everything w/wheels and wings were being sent in from all over the state, some chose to take the ride others didn't. That window of opportunity was only available as long as it was safe for the drivers/people being brought in to help. Bottles of water, my ass ...many of those people only cared
about the shopping sprees they were going to take in light of their recently evacuated city!! There was help, there was free shelter, food, clothing and everything they needed for themselves and their loved ones in upstate LA, for a fact...they just had to say, OK!! The owner of my company personally flew his plane back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until there was noone else to bring ...and the window was still open!! One can only help people who are willing to help themselves ...the exceptions being THE SICK, THE ELDERLY, THE CHILDREN, THE ANIMALS!! I am FURIOUS as hell about the sick, the elderly, the children
and the animals ...I would like to know why our local government didn't take care of it's hospitals and senior citizens IMMEDIATELY!! I'm willing to bet that if the people on the oil rig had a weeks notice that the rig was going to blow,
their asses would have been on a boat before you could say "kaboom" ...

Coug,

I recall the crack rescue squad from Canada, the best in the world, being in boats in New Orleans saving American souls before any American piece of equipment. The US Fed Gov't took the dick on Katrina. This is the United fucking States. People should not die because of a storm. This isn't Guatemala. Now I do agree that many who only desired to exercise in the form of looting are assholes, but not everyone was Hell bent on doing that. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I was embarrassed for America during Katrina.

deano you lost on this one pure and simple... it was local govt who FUCKED UP BIG TIME here period pure and simple... from before the storm all the way to the end of the storm... you cant blame bush on the levee system... there were school buses waiting to be used to get the people out... they chose not use the buses...

Bush wanted national guard... mayor and whoever was in charge with the state said they could handle it...
they couldnt and thus... who do liberals blame whenever there is **fault that they cant explain... BUSH...
thats why the oil spill will never stop... too many liberals wanting to blame bush and no one wanting to fill the whole and stop the leak...

[Rockindeano]

deano you lost on this one pure and simple... it was local govt who FUCKED UP BIG TIME here period pure and simple... from before the storm all the way to the end of the storm... you cant blame bush on the levee system... there were school buses waiting to be used to get the people out... they chose not use the buses...

Bush wanted national guard... mayor and whoever was in charge with the state said they could handle it...
they couldnt and thus... who do liberals blame whenever there is **fault that they cant explain... BUSH...
thats why the oil spill will never stop... too many liberals wanting to blame bush and no one wanting to fill the whole and stop the leak...

I didn't lose shit. I disagree with you, Coug and even 7 on this. Yes, the state shares the blame, Gov. Blanco fucked up by not calling in the Guard. Nagin too fucked up by not using the buses and refusing the three Amtrak train sets offered to him for free. However, the POTUS is the end of the line. he must share in the epic failed RESPONSE. Whether or not BVlanco and Nagin fucked up PRIOR to this storm, the POTUS has a responsibility to do whatever he can, see FEMA, to ensure the safety of the American people. FEMA is an Federal emergency program, at the sole discretion of the President. You going to tell me Brownie did a good job? And if you're answer is "yes," then why did Dubya fire his worthless ass a week later? The blame goes all around here, but to say Bush is without is flat out wrong.

[Rockindeano]

People should not die because of a storm!?! God, if only that statement were so ...what about all of the people
who were killed recently in Ark?!?! Tell that to the women here who lost husbands
and children. Is that the fault of the big "O"?!?! ...DUHAMN!!!

Oh you know what the fuck I mean. After the storm cleared, people sat and perished in wheelchairs and on sidewalks. They survived the actual storm, and died in the aftermath, due to flat out neglect and incompetence. Funny how you Cons always shoot down the Fed Gov't unless one of your own is at the helm. He failed miserably, and the history books will reflect that.

[Michigan Girl]

You're right, we're never going to agree ...I dealt w/these people
first hand, there's just no excuse for that level of stupid!!

BTW~that level of stupid comes in all the colors of the rainbow!!

[lights1961]

deano you lost on this one pure and simple... it was local govt who FUCKED UP BIG TIME here period pure and simple... from before the storm all the way to the end of the storm... you cant blame bush on the levee system... there were school buses waiting to be used to get the people out... they chose not use the buses...

Bush wanted national guard... mayor and whoever was in charge with the state said they could handle it...
they couldnt and thus... who do liberals blame whenever there is **fault that they cant explain... BUSH...
thats why the oil spill will never stop... too many liberals wanting to blame bush and no one wanting to fill the whole and stop the leak...

I didn't lose shit. I disagree with you, Coug and even 7 on this. Yes, the state shares the blame, Gov. Blanco fucked up by not calling in the Guard. Nagin too fucked up by not using the buses and refusing the three Amtrak train sets offered to him for free. However, the POTUS is the end of the line. he must share in the epic failed RESPONSE. Whether or not BVlanco and Nagin fucked up PRIOR to this storm, the POTUS has a responsibility to do whatever he can, see FEMA, to ensure the safety of the American people. FEMA is an Federal emergency program, at the sole discretion of the President. You going to tell me Brownie did a good job? And if you're answer is "yes," then why did Dubya fire his worthless ass a week later? The blame goes all around here, but to say Bush is without is flat out wrong.

it wasnt up to FEMA to stop the hurricane... it is up to FEMA to HELP get the city back on its feet... it wasnt brown who caused all the destruction... he just couldnt get the help fast enough to the citizens who needed the help... well because the citizens CHOSE to stay behind... and NO ONE COULD could get there to help out... the roads were all blocked in from the floods... I always thought that Brown got mislabled on this... for something he couldnt control... kinda like the coast guard guy getting a pass for telling us the leak is only spilling out 12,000-15,000 barrerls of oil a day....when the number is 40X more than that... and you guys think the coast guard is doing a BANG UP JOB plugging the whole... HA.. makes me laugh...

[artist4perry]

As I have said before........both parties suck. I laugh myself senseless when I hear how racist Conservatives are if they disagree with any policies that Obama comes up with. I have no problem with him as a person, but I don't agree with his policies. Does that equate me to be a racist? I have protested the huge deficit that is being built by our Congress. Does that equate me to be a racist? The answer is no. It is a tacktic of the extreme left to silence anyone who dares to disagree with their ideas. Call them a racist. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. Call them a racist and they will back off any arguement they may have. This sickens me to no end. I am not talking about all Democrats. Just the fringe nut jobs.

Here is a history lesson for those who think the Democrats are such champions of the minorities. It was the Democrat party that made up a great deal of the Jim Crow laws. These "laws" were established to keep the black man as a second class citizen. They wouldn't even allow them to vote. The Democrats not only killed blacks but white Republicans. I could never support such a party, who now pander to the minorities because they know they will give them more votes. They sicken my stomach.

[lights1961]

People should not die because of a storm!?! God, if only that statement were so ...what about all of the people
who were killed recently in Ark?!?! Tell that to the women here who lost husbands
and children. Is that the fault of the big "O"?!?! ...DUHAMN!!!

Oh you know what the fuck I mean. After the storm cleared, people sat and perished in wheelchairs and on sidewalks. They survived the actual storm, and died in the aftermath, due to flat out neglect and incompetence. Funny how you Cons always shoot down the Fed Gov't unless one of your own is at the helm. He failed miserably, and the history books will reflect that.

IT GOES TO SHOW YOU... if you wait for the GOVT TO SAVE your ass... you will be waiting for a VERY LONG TIME... unfortunately...its what is happening today in the gulf... people waiting around for direction... no one giving it...

is that Bush's fault too???