Journey & Perry...

[lights1961]

Comments from Bob Lefsetz -


Furthermore, this proves that if you've done great work that made it once, you're only one step away from a renaissance. But you can't push it, it's got to happen by accident, serendipitously. A royalty check should be sent to David Chase for each and every song downloaded. And make no mistake, "Glee" sales drive Journey sales. And if Chase could put their music in the greatest TV series ever, who are we to pooh-pooh it!

Proven in full this week on Billboard.
Journey's Greatest Hits was the greatest gainer on the album chart, jumping 48 places from #104 to #56 this week. Nothing to do with Journey touring or their current vocalist's back story. Absolutely something to do with the number #1 album this week, Glee: The music, Journey To Regionals.

if you look at the cataloge chart at billboard.com Journey GH is almost always in top 200... last week I checked it was #5... and 773 weeks on the charts...

[E5C4P3ING]

JOURNEY's music is "TIMELESS"!

[Don]

Comments from Bob Lefsetz -


Furthermore, this proves that if you've done great work that made it once, you're only one step away from a renaissance. But you can't push it, it's got to happen by accident, serendipitously. A royalty check should be sent to David Chase for each and every song downloaded. And make no mistake, "Glee" sales drive Journey sales. And if Chase could put their music in the greatest TV series ever, who are we to pooh-pooh it!

Proven in full this week on Billboard.
Journey's Greatest Hits was the greatest gainer on the album chart, jumping 48 places from #104 to #56 this week. Nothing to do with Journey touring or their current vocalist's back story. Absolutely something to do with the number #1 album this week, Glee: The music, Journey To Regionals.

if you look at the cataloge chart at billboard.com Journey GH is almost always in top 200... last week I checked it was #5... and 773 weeks on the charts...

Off topic a little bit but to illustrate how huge Dark Side Of The Moon is, that album has been on the overall sales chart chart (Billboard 200) for over 700 weeks and the catalog chart for over 900 weeks.
And it's not even a greatest hits package.

[lights1961]

Comments from Bob Lefsetz -



I just got off the phone with Irving Azoff. Despite the raging success of "Glee", he decided to keep Journey off the road this summer. You can't overwork your acts, you can't go out every year. Or, you can ask yourself the question, do you want to burn it out or go for longevity? Remember grade school, where you learned about farmers letting their land go fallow? Same deal in rock and roll. Work the same venues every year with the same crop and you end up in trouble. Only in this case, it's not the land that dries up, but your audience.

When "Any Way You Want It" was first a hit it was easily dismissed by the cognoscenti, put down as a lightweight romp. But compared to today's pop confections, "Any Way You Want It' looks like Beethoven.

As for "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'"... Isn't that what we all want?

"Glee" is not a band, but a TV show. Which builds, fades and is done. Hell, just look at "American Idol". There's no such thing as too much music in the marketplace, especially when none of it gets radio airplay. Yes, these "Glee" albums are made for home play. On your iPod, in your car. Listening makes you feel exuberant...and there's nothing wrong with that!

And there's a hard core Journey fan base that's never stopped believin'. They've been waiting for the reunion show. If Dave can get back with Van Halen, if Felix could play with the Rascals, Steve Perry and Neal Schon can make up and go on the road. To play stadiums. It could happen. Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

Furthermore, this proves that if you've done great work that made it once, you're only one step away from a renaissance. But you can't push it, it's got to happen by accident, serendipitously. A royalty check should be sent to David Chase for each and every song downloaded. And make no mistake, "Glee" sales drive Journey sales. And if Chase could put their music in the greatest TV series ever, who are we to pooh-pooh it!

and on a side note....

thanks Drew for sharing this... way cool... you could have kept this bit of information to yourself... great to share with the rest of us... that perry feels good about his music is a great step forward... so maybe there is something to read into here... Also
i agree NEal and Perry need to give the classic journey one more ride, before its too late and they are 75 getting into the Rock and Roll hall of fame... and then cant do the performance anymore... that would be sad...



Rick

[tammy]

What Steve called who? and, what music, old or new?
Want to mention that I guess Journey music is now officially "old" as I have heard several songs in the last 2 weeks on the "oldies" radio station here. "who's cryin now" was just on a little while ago.

[Voyager]

A Perry comeback with Journey could be as big as the Police reunion tour. Well, maybe not that big - but at least it would crack the top 20 grossing tours list!

Journey was on this list in 2008.

I see... looks like they barely made the cut:

TOP 20 GROSSING CONCERT TOURS OF 2008

1. Bon Jovi - $210,650,974
2. Bruce Springsteen - $204,513,630
3. Madonna - $185,696,018
4. The Police - $149,623,800
5. Celine Dion - $91,006,221
6. Kenny Chesney - $86,306,618
7. Neil Diamond - $81,206,383
8. Spice Girls - $70,123,272
9. Eagles - $56,625,336
10. Rascal Flatts - $55,863,364
11. Van Halen - $49,017,853
12. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - $47,382,901
13. Michael Buble - $46,333,163
14. Hanna Montana/Miley Cyrus - $45,376,189
15. Billy Joel - $41,133,051
16. Jonas Brothers - $40,080,352
17. Dave Matthews Band - $39,583,329
18. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - $39,138,280
19. Leonard Cohen - $36,346,67
20. Journey - $35,695,481

With Perry onboard they would be in the top five.

[BobbyinTN]

Comments from Bob Lefsetz -



I just got off the phone with Irving Azoff. Despite the raging success of "Glee", he decided to keep Journey off the road this summer. You can't overwork your acts, you can't go out every year. Or, you can ask yourself the question, do you want to burn it out or go for longevity? Remember grade school, where you learned about farmers letting their land go fallow? Same deal in rock and roll. Work the same venues every year with the same crop and you end up in trouble. Only in this case, it's not the land that dries up, but your audience.

When "Any Way You Want It" was first a hit it was easily dismissed by the cognoscenti, put down as a lightweight romp. But compared to today's pop confections, "Any Way You Want It' looks like Beethoven.

As for "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'"... Isn't that what we all want?

"Glee" is not a band, but a TV show. Which builds, fades and is done. Hell, just look at "American Idol". There's no such thing as too much music in the marketplace, especially when none of it gets radio airplay. Yes, these "Glee" albums are made for home play. On your iPod, in your car. Listening makes you feel exuberant...and there's nothing wrong with that!

And there's a hard core Journey fan base that's never stopped believin'. They've been waiting for the reunion show. If Dave can get back with Van Halen, if Felix could play with the Rascals, Steve Perry and Neal Schon can make up and go on the road. To play stadiums. It could happen. Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

Furthermore, this proves that if you've done great work that made it once, you're only one step away from a renaissance. But you can't push it, it's got to happen by accident, serendipitously. A royalty check should be sent to David Chase for each and every song downloaded. And make no mistake, "Glee" sales drive Journey sales. And if Chase could put their music in the greatest TV series ever, who are we to pooh-pooh it!

AWESOME!!!

[Jana]

Would be a dream and a half. Never say never. I beleive time heals wounds. I hope this is a sign of good things to come. If not well, it was a lovely dream.

It's not about time, people. THE MAN HASN'T SUNG IN 16 YEARS LIVE FOR ANY REASON, SOLO, ONE-OFF PERFORMANCE. That's the reason they will never reunite.

[froy]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

[portland]

Would be a dream and a half. Never say never. I beleive time heals wounds. I hope this is a sign of good things to come. If not well, it was a lovely dream.

It's not about time, people. THE MAN HASN'T SUNG IN 16 YEARS LIVE FOR ANY REASON, SOLO, ONE-OFF PERFORMANCE. That's the reason they will never reunite.

Jana you really need not be so harsh....Andrew thought it was worth sharing.

I think that it's nice to have something positive posted here that includes Perry and Journey.

Just Sayin......

[portland]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Beg to differ.....the Journey music I hear on the radio (now daily) is Perry fronted. He seems to be one of the people
who decided where and when the songs are used...so I think that makes it his music.

Take Andrew's advice go back downstairs and play in the Styx Forum....you give off a bad vibe.

[Since 78]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Beg to differ.....the Journey music I hear on the radio (now daily) is Perry fronted. He seems to be one of the people
who decided where and when the songs are used...so I think that makes it his music.

Take Andrew's advice go back downstairs and play in the Styx Forum....you give off a bad vibe.

Now who's being harsh? Its not his music.

[portland]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Beg to differ.....the Journey music I hear on the radio (now daily) is Perry fronted. He seems to be one of the people
who decided where and when the songs are used...so I think that makes it his music.

Take Andrew's advice go back downstairs and play in the Styx Forum....you give off a bad vibe.

Now who's being harsh? Its not his music.

Meh...you are splitting hairs....I did not say it's only his.

[Since 78]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Beg to differ.....the Journey music I hear on the radio (now daily) is Perry fronted. He seems to be one of the people
who decided where and when the songs are used...so I think that makes it his music.

Take Andrew's advice go back downstairs and play in the Styx Forum....you give off a bad vibe.

Now who's being harsh? Its not his music.

Meh...you are splitting hairs....I did not say it's only his.

How am I splitting hairs? you inferred as much. What do think of when Neal says his music?

[Jana]

Would be a dream and a half. Never say never. I beleive time heals wounds. I hope this is a sign of good things to come. If not well, it was a lovely dream.

It's not about time, people. THE MAN HASN'T SUNG IN 16 YEARS LIVE FOR ANY REASON, SOLO, ONE-OFF PERFORMANCE. That's the reason they will never reunite.

Jana you really need not be so harsh....Andrew thought it was worth sharing.

I think that it's nice to have something positive posted here that includes Perry and Journey.

Just Sayin......

I'm not being harsh. I'm saying it's not about "time." I truly believe had Steve been singing at any point these last, say, seven or ten years or so, they already would have made up and at least reunited for one album or concert. Something else vocally was holding him back from Journey and his own solo career.

[Don]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Beg to differ.....the Journey music I hear on the radio (now daily) is Perry fronted. He seems to be one of the people
who decided where and when the songs are used...so I think that makes it his music.

Take Andrew's advice go back downstairs and play in the Styx Forum....you give off a bad vibe.

I'm just going to clarify this point before some else uses it for debating purposes. The usage of the music is determined by the publishers and the songwriters. If it's going to be anything more than a non-rearranged audio cover, it has to be mutual consent between the copyright holders.
Now, while saying yes requires all the writers, saying no only requires one to dissent.
Unless Steve signed an exclusive agreement with the band (though I think his right of refusal for The Sopranos proves that he still has say in the material that includes his names in the credit), he could theoretically stop Journey from including any music he penned on any live DVD release and he could totally stop Arnel's documentary from not only using the music but including the song title in the film's title where it's clearly being used as a promotional tool.
I'm sure he wouldn't but he does have power like the others to control the pieces he owns partial copyright on, to a certain extent.

[brywool]

Would be a dream and a half. Never say never. I beleive time heals wounds. I hope this is a sign of good things to come. If not well, it was a lovely dream.

It's not about time, people. THE MAN HASN'T SUNG IN 16 YEARS LIVE FOR ANY REASON, SOLO, ONE-OFF PERFORMANCE. That's the reason they will never reunite.

Jana, always the voice of reason...

[brywool]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Sure it is. If Paul McCartney says "I like a lot of my music"- he'd be speaking of all of it. I think Perry's quote is the same, especially when the topic is the usage of Journey tunes in Glee. Sure that's his music (and Neal's, and Jon's, and Journey's).

It IS kind of open to interpretation, but I would think he's talking about all of his music...

[portland]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Sure it is. If Paul McCartney says "I like a lot of my music"- he'd be speaking of all of it. I think Perry's quote is the same, especially when the topic is the usage of Journey tunes in Glee. Sure that's his music (and Neal's, and Jon's, and Journey's).

It IS kind of open to interpretation, but I would think he's talking about all of his music...

So you agree with my definition?

[Don]

Steve's obviously talking about Glee Music. He was on the set of the show, being introduced to the cast as Steve Perry Of Journey. The producer was very vocal about how excited everyone was to meet him and how the last show was going to be a tribute to him and Journey. SP was thrilled by it's usage and acceptance by the younger fans.
Remember when Cain quoted Perry as saying the biggest thrill of making music is hearing it being played on the radio? This has got be such a great feeling for him right now. The number one album in the land right now has his, along with Neal and Jon's names on the credits and the reviews. That's got to be a major rush for someone who has been on the sidelines for the last decade or more. I think Steve can appreciate that these aren't just re-records done by a sound alike singer but actually a new way of promoting the music that is fresh and different. Finally, despite all the drama over the last few years and the carousel of vocalists and hard luck stories, the attention on Journey is back to being all about the music, as it should be.

[Michigan Girl]

Steve's obviously talking about Glee Music. He was on the set of the show, being introduced to the cast as Steve Perry Of Journey. The producer was very vocal about how excited everyone was to meet him and how the last show was going to be a tribute to him and Journey. SP was thrilled by it's usage and acceptance by the younger fans.
Remember what Cain quoted Perry as saying the biggest thrill of making music is hearing it being played on the radio? This has got be such a great feeling for him right now. The number one album in the land right now has his names on the credits and his names in the reviews. That's got to be a major rush for someone who has been on the sidelines for the last decade or more. I think Steve can appreciate that these aren't just re-records done by a sound alike singer but actually a new way of promoting the music that is fresh and different. Finally, despite all the drama over the last few years and the carousel of vocalists and hard luck stories, the attention on Journey is back to being all about the music, as it should be.

I'm going to have to cry here ...this is beautiful!!! I don't like the music the way it's being sung, but yeah, if I were
the writer of the songs ...you are right, of course!!

[portland]

Steve's obviously talking about Glee Music. He was on the set of the show, being introduced to the cast as Steve Perry Of Journey. The producer was very vocal about how excited everyone was to meet him and how the last show was going to be a tribute to him and Journey. SP was thrilled by it's usage and acceptance by the younger fans.
Remember what Cain quoted Perry as saying the biggest thrill of making music is hearing it being played on the radio? This has got be such a great feeling for him right now. The number one album in the land right now has his names on the credits and his names in the reviews. That's got to be a major rush for someone who has been on the sidelines for the last decade or more. I think Steve can appreciate that these aren't just re-records done by a sound alike singer but actually a new way of promoting the music that is fresh and different. Finally, despite all the drama over the last few years and the carousel of vocalists and hard luck stories, the attention on Journey is back to being all about the music, as it should be.

I'm going to have to cry here ...this is beautiful!!! I don't like the music the way it's being sung, but yeah, if I were
the writer of the songs ...you are right, of course!!

It seems it's coming back full circle.

My kids were in the car today singing along to DSB and AWYWI.....it's a beautiful thing!

[artist4perry]

I was on a trip with my Art Club from my school and my students started singing DSB. They knew the words folks, they beg me to play it often in class. A whole new generation is loving Journey and yes Steve Perry. It is this that keeps Journey's music going. It is timeless in many ways.

[steveo777]

My Nephew was over a few days ago and asked me to play Anyway You Want It. I obliged, but I really had two options...... I could have played the Arnel version, but played the Perry version. This kid is Filipino and I wanted him to hear and understand that this music came way before Arnel. After that I put in the Live in Houston DVD and let him watch some of that. He's now impressed with Journey as a band and appreciates the work of Steve Perry. He's 11, btw.

[Don]

My Nephew was over a few days ago and asked me to play Anyway You Want It. I obliged, but I really had two options...... I could have played the Arnel version, but played the Perry version. This kid is Filipino and I wanted him to hear and understand that this music came way before Arnel. After that I put in the Live in Houston DVD and let him watch some of that. He's now impressed with Journey as a band and appreciates the work of Steve Perry. He's 11, btw.

You should have put on Caddyshack.

[JRNYFan]

Even I enjoy listening to DSB nowadays. Back in the day, I skipped over it in a heartbeat.

[KDOUBLEU]

Well, that was fun to read....

[Art Vandelay]

My Nephew was over a few days ago and asked me to play Anyway You Want It. I obliged, but I really had two options...... I could have played the Arnel version, but played the Perry version. This kid is Filipino and I wanted him to hear and understand that this music came way before Arnel. After that I put in the Live in Houston DVD and let him watch some of that. He's now impressed with Journey as a band and appreciates the work of Steve Perry. He's 11, btw.

You should have put on Caddyshack.

Twenty bucks says the Smails kid picks his nose.

[KDOUBLEU]

My Nephew was over a few days ago and asked me to play Anyway You Want It. I obliged, but I really had two options...... I could have played the Arnel version, but played the Perry version. This kid is Filipino and I wanted him to hear and understand that this music came way before Arnel. After that I put in the Live in Houston DVD and let him watch some of that. He's now impressed with Journey as a band and appreciates the work of Steve Perry. He's 11, btw.

You should have put on Caddyshack.

Twenty bucks says the Smails kid picks his nose.

Twenty more says he eats it..

[froy]

"Andrew"


Steve called me a couple of months back and sounded as upbeat and thrilled about his music as ever.

His music is not Journey music..

Beg to differ.....the Journey music I hear on the radio (now daily) is Perry fronted. He seems to be one of the people
who decided where and when the songs are used...so I think that makes it his music.

He could be talking about his new music that was my point.