Oil Spill Devastation

[Behshad]

when is the money from bp supposed to come?

Um, BP maybe? They have PLENTY of it.

Look, if something is man made, then it can be fixed by man. BP ought to fix this thing NOW, and also PAY for EVERYTHING.

no shit... but when is this money coming? should people do nothing until it comes?

fucking arm chair libs.

So we get out money back, once BP pays out??? And dont try to turn this into a democrats vs republicans pissing match,,,,, with your fucked up logic, why dont we just have 1200 telethons a day for every fuckin victim of any kind , waiting for some settlement money from some big shot, just to make sure theyre taken care of until their money gets there.....

[7 Wishes]

Cutting the budget in all the wrong places, for one. He's giving money to the rich and to large corporations and taking it away from education and healthcare.

He was ranked #49 out of 50 governors for his environmental policy (prior to the spill). He continues to espouse offshore drilling in spite of this catastrophe.

And he's been caught speaking out of both sides of his mouth that he will get POUNDED in any national election.

[Michigan Girl]

he dislikes Jindal because he's Republican, "Bobby of the Bayou" has done nothing but push this state
forward ...he only wishes he had a man of such great integrity and fortitude in charge of his state ...he
also wishes Jindal were a Democrat so he could post all the good press!!! He also wishes his brain
were as big as his biceps and I'll save the other 4 for later!!

[Rockindeano]

Cutting the budget in all the wrong places, for one. He's giving money to the rich and to large corporations and taking it away from education and healthcare.

He was ranked #49 out of 50 governors for his environmental policy (prior to the spill). He continues to espouse offshore drilling in spite of this catastrophe.

And he's been caught speaking out of both sides of his mouth that he will get POUNDED in any national election.

It's safe to say this guy is not getting anywhere near national politics.

[StevePerryHair]

when is the money from bp supposed to come?

Um, BP maybe? They have PLENTY of it.

Look, if something is man made, then it can be fixed by man. BP ought to fix this thing NOW, and also PAY for EVERYTHING.

no shit... but when is this money coming? should people do nothing until it comes?

fucking arm chair libs.

So we get out money back, once BP pays out??? And dont try to turn this into a democrats vs republicans pissing match,,,,, with your fucked up logic, why dont we just have 1200 telethons a day for every fuckin victim of any kind , waiting for some settlement money from some big shot, just to make sure theyre taken care of until their money gets there.....

I think BP should be paying all of the little store owners who sell their freaking gas for all the customers they've lost through stupid protests too. ANOTHER radio commercial I heard this morning. A business selling the gas thanking customers who still shop there, and asking others to please support them. Boycotting doesn't hurt BP in the least. It only hurts another part of our economy, the small business owner.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

According to a recent study by the National Conference of State Legislators, Louisiana is expected to experience the second largest percentage drop in tax revenues of the fifty states. Furthermore, it is expected to be first in the nation in personal income tax collections declines, second in the loss of sales taxes, and in the top 10 percent in losses of corporate tax revenues. At the beginning of 2010 (mid-fiscal year), the state faced a $197 million shortfall due to general declines in sales taxsales tax, levy on the sale of goods or services, generally calculated as a percentage of the selling price, and sometimes called a purchase tax. It is usually collected in the form of an extra charge by the retailer, who remits the tax to the government. Louisiana's projected deficit over the next year could be the largest percentage increase of any state in the union.

This "perfect storm" that has battered the Louisiana economy has resulted in massive budget cuts that have fallen almost entirely on vulnerable segments that are not constitutionally protected--higher education, health care, and administration.

Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

COPYRIGHT 2010 University of Memphis

Yeah, Jindal's brilliant.

the whole article that this is from is..

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Tracking+ ... 0226362202

actually reading the whole article makes me question the effectiveness of economic stimulus (which Louisina has had heavily in the past five years )versus fixing the structural problems in the macro economy (e.g the rubber band that doesn't snap back quickly

[AlteredDNA]

Cutting the budget in all the wrong places, for one. He's giving money to the rich and to large corporations and taking it away from education and healthcare.

He was ranked #49 out of 50 governors for his environmental policy (prior to the spill). He continues to espouse offshore drilling in spite of this catastrophe.

And he's been caught speaking out of both sides of his mouth that he will get POUNDED in any national election.

The "money to the rich" mantra? Really?

How about this - he's actually asking lawmakers to pay for their programs without raising taxes, bringing new business to the state, especially in the entertainment industry, and is one of the only elected politicians actually doing something about the spill.

[7 Wishes]

Bush Presided over four out of those five years.

Anyway, the effectiveness of economic stimuli are difficult to measure, since there's no way of knowing what the best-case or most catastrophic consequence would have been, without any intervention.

[AlteredDNA]

Bush Presided over four out of those five years.

Anyway, the effectiveness of economic stimuli are difficult to measure, since there's no way of knowing what the best-case or most catastrophic consequence would have been, without any intervention.

That sure doesn't stop Obama from claiming he's "saved jobs", though, does it...

[Rockindeano]

when is the money from bp supposed to come?

Um, BP maybe? They have PLENTY of it.

Look, if something is man made, then it can be fixed by man. BP ought to fix this thing NOW, and also PAY for EVERYTHING.

no shit... but when is this money coming? should people do nothing until it comes?

fucking arm chair libs.

So we get out money back, once BP pays out??? And dont try to turn this into a democrats vs republicans pissing match,,,,, with your fucked up logic, why dont we just have 1200 telethons a day for every fuckin victim of any kind , waiting for some settlement money from some big shot, just to make sure theyre taken care of until their money gets there.....

I think BP should be paying all of the little store owners who sell their freaking gas for all the customers they've lost through stupid protests too. ANOTHER radio commercial I heard this morning. A business selling the gas thanking customers who still shop there, and asking others to please support them. Boycotting doesn't hurt BP in the least. It only hurts another part of our economy, the small business owner.

Lynn, I believe you just contradicted yourself. First you say BP should pay the independent BP gas station owner, and the second part you criticize protests. I can tell you that I agree wholeheartedly with your first part- because it certainly isn't their(the gas station owners) fault, however, I personally won't go to a BP station. Why should I? After all, part of my dollar is going to the mothership, the BP brass....protests are just...BP not subsidizing their independent owners is not. You folks have to remember BP is in no danger whatsoever of running out of money. They have billions ipon billions, yes even after the Obama shakedown of 20B.

[Behshad]

when is the money from bp supposed to come?

Um, BP maybe? They have PLENTY of it.

Look, if something is man made, then it can be fixed by man. BP ought to fix this thing NOW, and also PAY for EVERYTHING.

no shit... but when is this money coming? should people do nothing until it comes?

fucking arm chair libs.

So we get out money back, once BP pays out??? And dont try to turn this into a democrats vs republicans pissing match,,,,, with your fucked up logic, why dont we just have 1200 telethons a day for every fuckin victim of any kind , waiting for some settlement money from some big shot, just to make sure theyre taken care of until their money gets there.....

I think BP should be paying all of the little store owners who sell their freaking gas for all the customers they've lost through stupid protests too. ANOTHER radio commercial I heard this morning. A business selling the gas thanking customers who still shop there, and asking others to please support them. Boycotting doesn't hurt BP in the least. It only hurts another part of our economy, the small business owner.

Lynn, I believe you just contradicted yourself. First you say BP should pay the independent BP gas station owner, and the second part you criticize protests. I can tell you that I agree wholeheartedly with your first part- because it certainly isn't their(the gas station owners) fault, however, I personally won't go to a BP station. Why should I? After all, part of my dollar is going to the mothership, the BP brass....protests are just...BP not subsidizing their independent owners is not. You folks have to remember BP is in no danger whatsoever of running out of money. They have billions ipon billions, yes even after the Obama shakedown of 20B.

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[7 Wishes]

That sure doesn't stop Obama from claiming he's "saved jobs", though, does it...

Leave those projections to the economists and financial service industry, instead of your tainted, jaded rhetorical take on it.

[treetopovskaya]

when is the money from bp supposed to come?

Um, BP maybe? They have PLENTY of it.

Look, if something is man made, then it can be fixed by man. BP ought to fix this thing NOW, and also PAY for EVERYTHING.

no shit... but when is this money coming? should people do nothing until it comes?

fucking arm chair libs.

So we get out money back, once BP pays out??? And dont try to turn this into a democrats vs republicans pissing match,,,,, with your fucked up logic, why dont we just have 1200 telethons a day for every fuckin victim of any kind , waiting for some settlement money from some big shot, just to make sure theyre taken care of until their money gets there.....

hasn't this already been a pissing match?

no one is forcing you or anyone to donate. if people want to give because they can & it makes them feel like they're helping who is it hurting? if YOU don't want to donate... don't. simple.

[AlteredDNA]

That sure doesn't stop Obama from claiming he's "saved jobs", though, does it...

Leave those projections to the economists and financial service industry, instead of your tainted, jaded rhetorical take on it.

Excuse me? Did you not just post the following:

Anyway, the effectiveness of economic stimuli are difficult to measure, since there's no way of knowing what the best-case or most catastrophic consequence would have been, without any intervention.?

So which is it? Economists can or cannot measure the effectiveness of economic stimuli...

[StevePerryHair]

Lynn, I believe you just contradicted yourself. First you say BP should pay the independent BP gas station owner, and the second part you criticize protests. I can tell you that I agree wholeheartedly with your first part- because it certainly isn't their(the gas station owners) fault, however, I personally won't go to a BP station. Why should I? After all, part of my dollar is going to the mothership, the BP brass....protests are just...BP not subsidizing their independent owners is not. You folks have to remember BP is in no danger whatsoever of running out of money. They have billions ipon billions, yes even after the Obama shakedown of 20B.

No, I did not contradict myself!! I think that BP should have to make up for all their business lost because THEY happened to buy THEIR gas! And that gas is already paid for. They have a contract with BP they can't break. If we protest those gas stations, THE OWNERS are who lose out. Not BP. BP is an international company. We are a drop in the freaking bucket and so are these little small business owners. We filled our van at the one on the corner last week. I am going to help these people hurting because of BP's mistakes. Sorry. It will KILL our economy worse the way businesses are suffering. While everyone is arguing back and forth about politics, people are losing businesses, jobs and livlihoods. The hotels are freaking BEGGING people to stay there! Their beaches are "clean" and people STILL are canceling reservations. Sorry, but if people really want to help, you have to help the little way you can. Sitting around arguing politics doesnt' help anyone.

[donnaplease]

It's just proof positive these neo-cons are racist bastards, and will simply line up like the drooling, thoughtless, turd-brained brownshirts they are to oppose anything and everything any Democrat says or does - especially the President.

Well, we'll be alright, though - Pea-Brain Palin herself has prayed for divine intervention to "seal up the hole". Since she's such a good Christian, and practices what she preaches, I'm sure God will take care of that in short order for Her.

Daniel, what does racism have to do with any of this oil spill crap? What a minute, oil is black, and the republicans supposedly are oil lovers, so I guess that makes them un-racist... If you want to insult someone with a claim like that, at least make it pertinent to what's being discussed. When someone throws such wild accusations out there, it totally discounts anything else they have to say.

[7 Wishes]

Contending they're difficult to measure and impossible to verify does not suggest that those who are qualified to make those projections are not capable of being relatively accurate. Far more than you, I should assume - and since there is unanimous agreement Bush's second recession would have been worse WITHOUT the stimulus package, you can at least take that to the bank.

Hey, LiePaster - are you now referring to yourself in the third person? I thought that self-absorbed stratosphere was reserved for point guards and boxers, but you've proven me wrong. Pray that we can only aspire to such greatness someday, sir.

[AlteredDNA]

It's just proof positive these neo-cons are racist bastards, and will simply line up like the drooling, thoughtless, turd-brained brownshirts they are to oppose anything and everything any Democrat says or does - especially the President.

Well, we'll be alright, though - Pea-Brain Palin herself has prayed for divine intervention to "seal up the hole". Since she's such a good Christian, and practices what she preaches, I'm sure God will take care of that in short order for Her.

Daniel, what does racism have to do with any of this oil spill crap? What a minute, oil is black, and the republicans supposedly are oil lovers, so I guess that makes them un-racist... If you want to insult someone with a claim like that, at least make it pertinent to what's being discussed. When someone throws such wild accusations out there, it totally discounts anything else they have to say.

He can't help it. He sees a racist behind every bush...

[Michigan Girl]

It's just proof positive these neo-cons are racist bastards, and will simply line up like the drooling, thoughtless, turd-brained brownshirts they are to oppose anything and everything any Democrat says or does - especially the President.

Well, we'll be alright, though - Pea-Brain Palin herself has prayed for divine intervention to "seal up the hole". Since she's such a good Christian, and practices what she preaches, I'm sure God will take care of that in short order for Her.

Daniel, what does racism have to do with any of this oil spill crap? What a minute, oil is black, and the republicans supposedly are oil lovers, so I guess that makes them un-racist... If you want to insult someone with a claim like that, at least make it pertinent to what's being discussed. When someone throws such wild accusations out there, it totally discounts anything else they have to say.

He can't help it. He sees a racist behind every bush...

Damn straight and he hates our India~Indian governor ...damn racist!!

[Rockindeano]

Lynn, I believe you just contradicted yourself. First you say BP should pay the independent BP gas station owner, and the second part you criticize protests. I can tell you that I agree wholeheartedly with your first part- because it certainly isn't their(the gas station owners) fault, however, I personally won't go to a BP station. Why should I? After all, part of my dollar is going to the mothership, the BP brass....protests are just...BP not subsidizing their independent owners is not. You folks have to remember BP is in no danger whatsoever of running out of money. They have billions ipon billions, yes even after the Obama shakedown of 20B.

No, I did not contradict myself!! I think that BP should have to make up for all their business lost because THEY happened to buy THEIR gas! And that gas is already paid for. They have a contract with BP they can't break. If we protest those gas stations, THE OWNERS are who lose out. Not BP. BP is an international company. We are a drop in the freaking bucket and so are these little small business owners. We filled our van at the one on the corner last week. I am going to help these people hurting because of BP's mistakes. Sorry. It will KILL our economy worse the way businesses are suffering. While everyone is arguing back and forth about politics, people are losing businesses, jobs and livlihoods. The hotels are freaking BEGGING people to stay there! Their beaches are "clean" and people STILL are canceling reservations. Sorry, but if people really want to help, you have to help the little way you can. Sitting around arguing politics doesnt' help anyone.

What BP corporate should do is take a 12 month average of the last year(before the spill), and pay the gas station owners the difference between the average and today's take. Does that make any sense? That way, the station owners get to keep their business, and BP rightfully pays for it's sins.

[7 Wishes]

When someone throws such wild accusations out there, it totally discounts anything else they have to say.

No, it doesn't. The pieces fit together nicely. It's either racism, or downright ignorance. While Deano, Sherrie, TNC and I all routinely express our disappointment in many facets of Obama's Presidency or the failure of Democrats to live up to their promises, I don't see any of that with the Republicans on this board. Retroactive, lukewarm and relative disenfranchisement of the disastrous Bush Administration is superflouous in its veiled purpose - to portray oneself as an objective observer.

The lot of you continue to toe the company line and parrot your brain-dead, lie-spewing, lowest-common-denominator-appealing Faux News "commentators". It's as transparent as McConnell's attempt to retroactively censure GOBP Senators and Congressmen who have clearly expressed support for BP.

[7 Wishes]

He can't help it. He sees a racist behind every Bush...

Just a slight grammatical correction there, son.

[7 Wishes]

As long as it's done at school, right?

I suppose you also support Texas' spending almost $1 billion to refurbish high school classrooms with text books that refer to slavery as the "Atlantic Trade Triangle," glorify the Confederacy, and portray evolution as a flawed scientific theory.

[Michigan Girl]

http://bobbyjindal.com/


Taking matters into our own hands
Shreveport Times
Governor Bobby Jindal
June 21, 2010

"We are fighting a war. There is no doubt that the ongoing BP oil spill is a full frontal assault on our Louisiana way of life...

The war against this oil spill continues today, and our commitment to winning this war has only grown stronger. We will not wait on bureaucracy or wishful thinking. We will continue to move forward on our own to implement our own ideas for protecting coastal Louisiana, even when BP and the Coast Guard don't agree with our plans.

I know we can do this because of the many heroes we have fighting in this war alongside us — our coastal parish presidents, our National Guard troops, the fishermen who are laying out boom and the communities that are banding together to help one another in their time of need. We will protect our people and our communities and industries that make Louisiana the greatest state in the world.

And we will not rest until every drop of oil is off of our coast and out of our marshes and our water — and our seafood and our coastline are 100 percent whole again."

The way Jindal is handling this^^^^is the way health care should be handled!! Everyone taking care of their own , via churches, families,
communities, local entities, each other...it is NOT
a government issue, NEVER should be!!! Whomever came up w/this lame ass plan will run us into the ground before Jindal even
has a chance at office of POTUS!!

[StevePerryHair]

Lynn, I believe you just contradicted yourself. First you say BP should pay the independent BP gas station owner, and the second part you criticize protests. I can tell you that I agree wholeheartedly with your first part- because it certainly isn't their(the gas station owners) fault, however, I personally won't go to a BP station. Why should I? After all, part of my dollar is going to the mothership, the BP brass....protests are just...BP not subsidizing their independent owners is not. You folks have to remember BP is in no danger whatsoever of running out of money. They have billions ipon billions, yes even after the Obama shakedown of 20B.

No, I did not contradict myself!! I think that BP should have to make up for all their business lost because THEY happened to buy THEIR gas! And that gas is already paid for. They have a contract with BP they can't break. If we protest those gas stations, THE OWNERS are who lose out. Not BP. BP is an international company. We are a drop in the freaking bucket and so are these little small business owners. We filled our van at the one on the corner last week. I am going to help these people hurting because of BP's mistakes. Sorry. It will KILL our economy worse the way businesses are suffering. While everyone is arguing back and forth about politics, people are losing businesses, jobs and livlihoods. The hotels are freaking BEGGING people to stay there! Their beaches are "clean" and people STILL are canceling reservations. Sorry, but if people really want to help, you have to help the little way you can. Sitting around arguing politics doesnt' help anyone.

What BP corporate should do is take a 12 month average of the last year(before the spill), and pay the gas station owners the difference between the average and today's take. Does that make any sense? That way, the station owners get to keep their business, and BP rightfully pays for it's sins.

That's what I think! Because when we got gas, we were the only car. And granted it was sunday evening on father's day, so it could have been timing, but I have a feeling that people are picking the Exxon station across the street. Yeah, Exxon, as in "Valdez". But I guess BP is the current bad guy, and that was too long ago for people's memories.

It just seems unfair to the little guy to me. They are really stuck in a mess. It's just not fair for BP to continue probably unscathed from this, while these business's could go under. Our business economy in Florida wasn't great before this.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Lynn, I believe you just contradicted yourself. First you say BP should pay the independent BP gas station owner, and the second part you criticize protests. I can tell you that I agree wholeheartedly with your first part- because it certainly isn't their(the gas station owners) fault, however, I personally won't go to a BP station. Why should I? After all, part of my dollar is going to the mothership, the BP brass....protests are just...BP not subsidizing their independent owners is not. You folks have to remember BP is in no danger whatsoever of running out of money. They have billions ipon billions, yes even after the Obama shakedown of 20B.

No, I did not contradict myself!! I think that BP should have to make up for all their business lost because THEY happened to buy THEIR gas! And that gas is already paid for. They have a contract with BP they can't break. If we protest those gas stations, THE OWNERS are who lose out. Not BP. BP is an international company. We are a drop in the freaking bucket and so are these little small business owners. We filled our van at the one on the corner last week. I am going to help these people hurting because of BP's mistakes. Sorry. It will KILL our economy worse the way businesses are suffering. While everyone is arguing back and forth about politics, people are losing businesses, jobs and livlihoods. The hotels are freaking BEGGING people to stay there! Their beaches are "clean" and people STILL are canceling reservations. Sorry, but if people really want to help, you have to help the little way you can. Sitting around arguing politics doesnt' help anyone.

What BP corporate should do is take a 12 month average of the last year(before the spill), and pay the gas station owners the difference between the average and today's take. Does that make any sense? That way, the station owners get to keep their business, and BP rightfully pays for it's sins.

BP shoud pay the cost to clean up the spill, clean off the pelicans and other wildlife and reinburse businesses along the gulf that have had to close due to the oil spill (with the US government having to pay nothing in the end, but also not taxing any of the recipients of that reinbursement money) . BP shouldn't have to pay for the loses of the gas station which are the result of short sighted people who dont have the common sense to undersatnd they are just hurting the garage owner, and perhaps because some of them have been whipped up into a silly state of frenzy. BP should be held accountable, but everything associated with BP shouldn't be pilloried.

[donnaplease]

When someone throws such wild accusations out there, it totally discounts anything else they have to say.

No, it doesn't. The pieces fit together nicely. It's either racism, or downright ignorance. While Deano, Sherrie, TNC and I all routinely express our disappointment in many facets of Obama's Presidency or the failure of Democrats to live up to their promises, I don't see any of that with the Republicans on this board. Retroactive, lukewarm and relative disenfranchisement of the disastrous Bush Administration is superflouous in its veiled purpose - to portray oneself as an objective observer.

The lot of you continue to toe the company line and parrot your brain-dead, lie-spewing, lowest-common-denominator-appealing Faux News "commentators". It's as transparent as McConnell's attempt to retroactively censure GOBP Senators and Congressmen who have clearly expressed support for BP.

I concede that you at times criticize BO or his administration for some of their flaws, and I admire you for that. But your utter contempt and downright hatred for Bush and the 'other side' does nothing but make YOU look like the intolerant ones, all the while using terms like racist, murderer, rethug (which is hilarious in and of itself, but not in a ha-ha way), and the list goes on and on... Furthermore, your decision to personally insult others for not sharing your viewpoint does nothing but highlight this intolerance.

Throwing out the word racist in a discussion of the oil spill serves no purpose but to add to the already contentious atmosphere here. It's bullshit, and it's one of the reasons I dislike liberalism as a whole.

[Rockindeano]

HOUSTON—Wildlife experts are in a race against time to save sea turtles that are headed on a dangerous journey. Many are migrating directly toward the oil-polluted waters in the Gulf.

Experts have rescued more than 500 sea turtles from the Gulf, but reports indicate only one in five survives. Experts say even though some of them may look clean, often the damage from the oil can be internal.

Hmmmm...One Million, Three Hundred Fifty Thousand abortions a year are ok, but 500 Sea Turtles in danger requires an all out rescue mission costing possibly millions. Makes perfect sense to me.

You spineless cheap selfish sonofabitch- You should LOVE abortion- therefore you can save on tax dollars when gasp, a poor young woman loses her way and may need a crutch(government help). You just keep counting YOUR money. fuck, people like you should go to your own fucking island and just sit there and count your money. me me me me.

And for you to compare abortion with endangered wildlife takes the cake. Go fuck yourself.

[treetopovskaya]

when is the money from bp supposed to come?

Um, BP maybe? They have PLENTY of it.

Look, if something is man made, then it can be fixed by man. BP ought to fix this thing NOW, and also PAY for EVERYTHING.

still responding without reading what people post.

[gr8dane]

Most Americans do not believe President Obama has a clear plan to deal with the oil spill in the Gulf, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll.

Just 32 percent say Mr. Obama has a clear plan to deal with the oil leak, while 59 percent (including 64 percent of Gulf coast residents) say he does not.

The spill isn't the only issue on which the president is seen as lacking a plan of action: Just 41 percent say Mr. Obama has a clear plan for developing new sources of energy, while 45 percent say he has no clear plan. And when it comes to creating jobs, just 34 percent say he has a clear plan; 54 percent say he does not.

A majority of Americans - 61 percent - says the president's response to the oil spill was too slow. Just 31 percent say they have "a lot" of confidence in his ability to handle a crisis

How would you deal with it if you were president?