Oil Spill Devastation

[RossValoryRocks]

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....it's EXACTLY what you did for 8 years PLUS...you are a fucking moron...please don't reproduce...your end of the gene pool needs chlorine in it...

Listen, you sack of shit. This is way over the line, and you know it. It's one thing to question someone's assertions or beliefs, or even to ridicule them...but this is over the top. I thought you were better than this...but going back a few pages, you started the name-calling and insult-hurling (again) when I was just discussing issues.

I am a fantastic father and a good friend to a great many people. Obviously, the opinions of people on this forum don't matter at all to me.

Your opinion of me is meaningless...your opinion is WORTHLESS because it comes from some left wing blog. You use all the left wing buzz phrases...like...ummm..racist...thats a good one...what else...oh yeah...all the anti-conservative revision of history ones, love those.

I am sure you are a good father...but teach your kids better than you have been taught...because your sadly lack in the common sense, any IDEA of how government is SUPPOSED to work, yes I know it doesn't work like it SUPPOSED to work, which is THE PROBLEM. and are so filled with bitterness and hate toward conservatives it's SICKENING...it is almost racist...but like I said...biggoted is probably a better word.

[RossValoryRocks]

7Bitches couldn't find a reliable source of information if his life depended on it.

Right. Considering almost all my posts end in ".gov" and yours begin with "drudge" or "fox".

Indeed. You are a laugh riot.

Show me a source that I posted that is Fox or Drudge? ONE...you won't find one.

I did have a post from a conservative site the other day, because I was pressed for time, and it had the data I needed...if you can get past the political blather.

[7 Wishes]

but teach your kids better than you have been taught...because your sadly lack in the common sense, any IDEA of how government is SUPPOSED to work, yes I know it doesn't work like it SUPPOSED to work, which is THE PROBLEM. and are so filled with bitterness and hate toward conservatives it's SICKENING...it is almost racist...but like I said...biggoted is probably a better word.

Funny. My child and my siblings - are open-minded, generous souls who routinely put the needs of others ahead of their own. That's how I was raised.

To me, the GOP has gone from the party of pragmatic, common-sense fiscal conservatism to intolerance and currying to special interests ahead of the needs of the people.

Ultra-conservative leaning newspapers and publications count, too, you know. Citing my one utilization of a pretty middle-of-the-road article published on Huffington nothwithstanding, I have yet to see one objective piece of information posted with respect to most of these issues by anyone on the right.

The problem is, the data supports my assertions - and far-flung, media-hyped, Limbaugh-esque rants and disinformation permeates yours.

[RossValoryRocks]

I guess BIGOT would be better...you are biggoted against conservatives. You hate them ALL. Regardless if they are correct on and issue or not. So you automatically take the opposite side.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Seriously, I have derided Obama more in the past two weeks than you and your mouth-breathing block of dittoheads collectively has the Republican party in five years. YOU are the ones who only see things in black and white. Pun intended.

I am THE MOST LIBERAL of the conservatives here by FAR. I am anything but a racist or biggot...however YOU ARE...because you don't really understand any better.

I have stated my support for reproductive rights, gay marriage, gays in the military etc...I DEPLORE, SOME, but not all of what George Bush did...and I cannot stand what our government has become...but unlike you biggot, I don't live in the past...Bush is gone...and you won't let it go and it is blinding you to what the shitheads are doing now...well you are blinded to what 1/2 of the shitheads are doing now because you don't WANT to see it...because if you actually ADMITTED that Obama has done ANYTHING wrong your worldview would come crashing down around you.

You say you discuss issues?? BULLSHIT, no matter what the "issue" is and no MATTER what Obama does wrong your ONLY defense is Republican X was evil and/or did more evil and it's all their fault so there. You show yourself to be an uneducated STOOGE of the left...which is EXACTLY how Obama got elected...by playing a shell game and passing blame...actually that's how all politicans get elected...Obama just did it better than most.

[RossValoryRocks]

but teach your kids better than you have been taught...because your sadly lack in the common sense, any IDEA of how government is SUPPOSED to work, yes I know it doesn't work like it SUPPOSED to work, which is THE PROBLEM. and are so filled with bitterness and hate toward conservatives it's SICKENING...it is almost racist...but like I said...biggoted is probably a better word.

Funny. My child and my siblings - are open-minded, generous souls who routinely put the needs of others ahead of their own. That's how I was raised.

To me, the GOP has gone from the party of pragmatic, common-sense fiscal conservatism to intolerance and currying to special interests ahead of the needs of the people.

Ultra-conservative leaning newspapers and publications count, too, you know. Citing my one utilization of a pretty middle-of-the-road article published on Huffington nothwithstanding, I have yet to see one objective piece of information posted with respect to most of these issues by anyone on the right.

The problem is, the data supports my assertions - and far-flung, media-hyped, Limbaugh-esque rants and disinformation permeates yours.

Media hyped??? Reuters??? AP??? Those are media hyped???

Good lord Dan...are you reading what you type?

I read news, and digest it based on my values, beliefs and education and comment on it. I don't quote Hannity, Limbaugh or Beck because I DO NOT LISTEN/WATCH them...any more than I watch the fucktards are MSNBC or CNN.

Bullshit...on the your data supports...you go to left wing blog/info sites to get you "source"...and then CLAIM it is from the government...because they did. A post today not withstanding...and you didn't even post ALL the data from that because it doesn't support your assertation.

You have been taught well by the libs...I will give you that.

[Saint John]

Considering almost all my posts end in ".gov"

Aren't you one of the guys that believes 9-11 was possibly an inside job? If so, how can you, with a good conscience, use their numbers as being accurate and factual?

[7 Wishes]

Reuters??? AP??? Those are media hyped???

You go to left wing blog/info sites to get you "source"...and then CLAIM it is from the government...because they did.

You have been taught well by the libs...I will give you that.

Right, Stu. Whatever. I will cede that you alone cull information from reliable sources sometimes - which is NOT the case for RightWingLunatic and LiePaster.

I don't remember the last time I went to a "left wing blog". Information taken from a .gov website is far more reliable than anything else - certainly more than the UK's telegraph or the ultra-right wing op-eds most of the GOBP's here post.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

I agree there needs to be some legal guidance here. If BP starts getting fleeced from Amos Moses and others who are looking at compensation like a convenient welfare payout regardless if they were not directly effected by the spill, I see the British Government stepping in and making sure that British Petroleum doesn't become a huge Piggy bank for unscrupulous persons (private and governmental) taking advantage of the situation.

What can...and maybe will happen is BP will sell it's US assets to ExxonMobile or Chevron...pull out of the US completely...tell the Federal Government to go fuck themselves, and the British government will the same thing. But ONLY if Obama and left-wing nut jobs try and take MORE than what is mandated by law, and common sense that BP pay to cover.

If that happened a hell of a lot of American jobs would be lost in Houston and Chicago

[AlteredDNA]

Federal Gov't Halts Sand Berm Dredging
http://www.wdsu.com/news/23997498/detail.html

NEW ORLEANS -- The federal government is shutting down the dredging that was being done to create protective sand berms in the Gulf of Mexico.

The berms are meant to protect the Louisiana coastline from oil. But the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Department has concerns about where the dredging is being done.

Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser, who was one of the most vocal advocates of the dredging plan, has sent a letter to President Barack Obama, pleading for the work to continue.

Nungesser said the government has asked crews to move the dredging site two more miles farther off the coastline.

"Once again, our government resource agencies, which are intended to protect us, are now leaving us vulnerable to the destruction of our coastline and marshes by the impending oil," Nungesser wrote to Obama. "Furthermore, with the threat of hurricanes or tropical storms, we are being put at an increased risk for devastation to our area from the intrusion of oil.

Nungesser has asked for the dredging to continue for the next seven days, the amount of time it would take to move the dredging operations two miles and out resume work.

Work is scheduled to halt at midnight Wednesday.

[7 Wishes]

Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that they aren't working at all?

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/05/nation/la-na-oil-spill-berms-20100606

[AlteredDNA]

Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that they aren't working at all?

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/05/nation/la-na-oil-spill-berms-20100606

No - there's no proof either way yet. But better to sit around doing nothing, than try something, I suppose...right?

I'm not getting back into this today - lots of work to do, and taking my daughter to the zoo this afternoon...

Have a great day, everyone...

[Michigan Girl]

Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that they aren't working at all?

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/05/nation/la-na-oil-spill-berms-20100606

No - there's no proof either way yet. But better to sit around doing nothing, than try something, I suppose...right?

I'm not getting back into this today - lots of work to do, and taking my daughter to the zoo this afternoon...

Have a great day, everyone... :)

awww...you too!! You've done a great job here!!

[lights1961]

day 65 oil still spilling...

[7 Wishes]

Well, environmentalists and fishermen are pretty unanimous in their contention they don't work. I'm sure they know more about it than you do.

[donnaplease]

I heard today at my son's oral surgery office that George Soros has a HUGE interest in Petrobras, who looks to benefit from the drilling ban in a major way. I guess the 'pubbies' aren't the only "big oil" assholes out there, huh?

This is from last August, but it's kinda telling...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... V5sgGzdsQY

[The_Noble_Cause]

I heard today at my son's oral surgery office that George Soros has a HUGE interest in Petrobras, who looks to benefit from the drilling ban in a major way. I guess the 'pubbies' aren't the only "big oil" assholes out there, huh?

This is from last August, but it's kinda telling...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... V5sgGzdsQY

This is the latest paranoia-fueled fantasy by Glenn Beck. It is now also making the rounds in the form of a (discredited) spam email.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

[slucero]

Chances of BP declaring bankruptcy are prolly pretty remote for now.. but its possible... BP America is valued at around $50 Billion asset-wise... so its conceivable that if the costs hit $50 Billion.. they could simply fold BP America and file... would be perfectly legal to do so...

[donnaplease]

I heard today at my son's oral surgery office that George Soros has a HUGE interest in Petrobras, who looks to benefit from the drilling ban in a major way. I guess the 'pubbies' aren't the only "big oil" assholes out there, huh?

This is from last August, but it's kinda telling...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... V5sgGzdsQY

This is the latest paranoia-fueled fantasy by Glenn Beck. It is now also making the rounds in the form of a (discredited) spam email.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

IDK what's paranoia-fueled and what isn't. I just found the Soros connection to "big oil" interesting. When I was looking into this, I saw the Glenn Beck link. His animation is hilarious to me, but I didn't follow all the hype. I only bring it here because of those who try to pin all these connections to oil companies solely on the back of republicans. I'd be willing to bet that any of us who had the money to invest would be doing the same. I know I would. Highlights Soros' hypocrisy though, if you ask me.

BTW, I didn't read it all, but it looks like your link was a little misleading in one of the paragraphs about Soros' holdings (at least compared to the Bloomberg link). I don't have time to check it out further now, but I will in a bit and revise this if need be.

EDIT: The snopes piece talks about Soros selling off 22 million shares, but doesn't mention that he turned around and bought nearly 6 million of another type of shares from the company. After reading it closer it doesn't really look like a big deal though. I originally though he was buying the different type so he'd have more say in how the company is run, but I guess that's not the case.

[lights1961]

I heard today at my son's oral surgery office that George Soros has a HUGE interest in Petrobras, who looks to benefit from the drilling ban in a major way. I guess the 'pubbies' aren't the only "big oil" assholes out there, huh?

This is from last August, but it's kinda telling...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... V5sgGzdsQY

This is the latest paranoia-fueled fantasy by Glenn Beck. It is now also making the rounds in the form of a (discredited) spam email.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

IDK what's paranoia-fueled and what isn't. I just found the Soros connection to "big oil" interesting. When I was looking into this, I saw the Glenn Beck link. His animation is hilarious to me, but I didn't follow all the hype. I only bring it here because of those who try to pin all these connections to oil companies solely on the back of republicans. I'd be willing to bet that any of us who had the money to invest would be doing the same. I know I would. Highlights Soros' hypocrisy though, if you ask me.

BTW, I didn't read it all, but it looks like your link was a little misleading in one of the paragraphs about Soros' holdings (at least compared to the Bloomberg link). I don't have time to check it out further now, but I will in a bit and revise this if need be.

BTW if you look closely at many of our retirement packages from the last 40 years... your 401's the last 25 years... and other investmets that are made by your financial planners... um LOTS of most everyones retirement money was/is coming from BIG OIL and BIG BANKS and wall street... whose stocks you helped increase by what.... INVESTING in the blue chip markets... so they could keep growing and investing in jobs... and help grow your retirement pay...

just saying...

[7 Wishes]

You'd think in a restaurant like this, they could keep the snails off the food.

[brywool]

day 65 oil still spilling...

oil containment Cap removed after an underwater robot bumped into venting system, sending gas through vent http://bit.ly/cs9Ti7
about 3 hours ago via breakingnews.com

Oil from the BP oil spill disaster is spewing again into the Gulf of Mexico at nearly full force after a venting system connected the so-called containment cap over the blown-out wellhead was damaged in an accident with a robot sub, said Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the commander in charge of the government's effort to control the 65-day-old spill.

GODDAMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIX IT!!!

[treetopovskaya]

Most Americans do not believe President Obama has a clear plan to deal with the oil spill in the Gulf, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll.

Just 32 percent say Mr. Obama has a clear plan to deal with the oil leak, while 59 percent (including 64 percent of Gulf coast residents) say he does not.

The spill isn't the only issue on which the president is seen as lacking a plan of action: Just 41 percent say Mr. Obama has a clear plan for developing new sources of energy, while 45 percent say he has no clear plan. And when it comes to creating jobs, just 34 percent say he has a clear plan; 54 percent say he does not.

A majority of Americans - 61 percent - says the president's response to the oil spill was too slow. Just 31 percent say they have "a lot" of confidence in his ability to handle a crisis

How would you deal with it if you were president?

I would have let the Governors call the shots locally and not hindered them like O did with Jindal. Waived the Jones act so that more foreign skimmers could be brought in w/out Coast Guard interference. Told the Coast Guard to back off from their rule book. All claimants who are out of work could now be put to work either cleaning the beaches or animals , or outfitting their boats with skimmers or boom and working them that way. I would let them burn more of the oil off, if I'm not mistaken they made them scale back the burning.

As President I would have struck a positive tone and assured everyone that "yes we have a serious problem, nobody likes it or wanted it to happen, but it's here, let's deal with it, fix it and clean up."

Hold it right there.... if he would let the governor call the shots locally, then you would bitch and moan and say "why the fuck do we have a president if all he does it flee from his responsobilties and pass it on to someone else "

your games are old,,,, but guess its hard for you to come with somethin new unless Rush does ,,,,

b what would you do if you were prez?

I would make sure youre on my good side And I would throw big parties with Soto singing for all my MR friends ,,,and I would put Andrew in charge of the BP fiasco

speaking of jss... i bet if he was taking part in a benefit for the gulf you'd donate/attend.

"the less that you give, you're a taker"

[treetopovskaya]

It's not just millions of gallons of black gold spilling into the Gulf of Mexico that are being lost. Also disappearing into watery despair are the last shreds of credibility for progressive Big Government.

It's Day 65 of the Deepwater Horizon spill and the only hope of stopping the flow of thick, gooey crude remains the relief well being drilled by the private sector.

None of the ass-kicking political speeches by President Obama, bureaucratic edicts by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar or EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, or hypocritical posturing for the cameras in Congress has plugged the hole to stop the flow of suffocating oil headed to the beaches.

lift the jones act!

[7 Wishes]

Really? Big Government, with its regulatory practices, would never have allowed this accident to happen in the first place. This one is squarely on Dubby's shoulders.

[treetopovskaya]

It's not just millions of gallons of black gold spilling into the Gulf of Mexico that are being lost. Also disappearing into watery despair are the last shreds of credibility for progressive Big Government.

It's Day 65 of the Deepwater Horizon spill and the only hope of stopping the flow of thick, gooey crude remains the relief well being drilled by the private sector.

None of the ass-kicking political speeches by President Obama, bureaucratic edicts by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar or EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, or hypocritical posturing for the cameras in Congress has plugged the hole to stop the flow of suffocating oil headed to the beaches.

lift the jones act!

what's the hold up??? waive it already!

[donnaplease]

Really? Big Government, with its regulatory practices, would never have allowed this accident to happen in the first place. This one is squarely on Dubby's shoulders.

You can have all the government and regulations in the world, Daniel, but if those responsible for the inspections aren't inspecting, what good is it? Sounds like the inspectors (and the MMS) dropped the ball during both administrations.

[7 Wishes]

Except the staff of MMS was almost entirely filled by Bush appointees and their cronies, and Obama's choice to head the MMS (among many candidates for many posts) was being held up by the GOBP.

Also, Bush's deregulation PREVENTED any current or future Administration from being able to enforce any meaningful legislation, as the MMS became nothing more than a partner in crime of Big Oil.

[Lula]

Bush did away with inspections along with regulation and the mms consisted of his peeps.
Obama has had a full plate since day 1, lots to disagree with for many, but that to me is neither hare nor there.
This is a monumental PRIVATE sector disaster and unfortunately the clean up is all of ours. As for containment, big oil are the only ones with the equipment and supposed expertise to get it done.
Deep water drilling should not be happening- period. The risks are too great to deny.

[Rockindeano]

Bush did away with inspections along with regulation and the mms consisted of his peeps.
Obama has had a full plate since day 1, lots to disagree with for many, but that to me is neither hare nor there.
This is a monumental PRIVATE sector disaster and unfortunately the clean up is all of ours. As for containment, big oil are the only ones with the equipment and supposed expertise to get it done.
Deep water drilling should not be happening- period. The risks are too great to deny.

Nah, horseshit. Who gives a shit about the ocean or Gulf? Drill Baby Drill. Right Sarah? Jindal? McConnell? Assholes.

[lights1961]

Bush did away with inspections along with regulation and the mms consisted of his peeps.
Obama has had a full plate since day 1, lots to disagree with for many, but that to me is neither hare nor there.
This is a monumental PRIVATE sector disaster and unfortunately the clean up is all of ours. As for containment, big oil are the only ones with the equipment and supposed expertise to get it done.
Deep water drilling should not be happening- period. The risks are too great to deny.

Nah, horseshit. Who gives a shit about the ocean or Gulf? Drill Baby Drill. Right Sarah? Jindal? McConnell? Assholes.

yep... you all are the ones who want us off depending on FORIEGN OIL... so we have to drill baby drill in order NOT TO BE INFLUENCED by foriegn oil... America works becuase we can keep oil costs
down... this is how you do it... at least thats how its supposed to work... you explore for OIL... find it, drill for it... produce it, conusme it...

BTW... day 66 of the spill...