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Michigan Girl wrote:LOL ...here's something we haven't heard before ...
"Doors are finally opening for Journey after Neal Schon discovered a goldmine while surfing the
Internet desperately looking for a new lead singer. Filipino Arnel Pineda ..." In fact, most everything
has already been posted here from the caveman updates!!
Positive article, however ...good job Journey Mngmt!!
WTH w/the title ..New Rocky Album for 2011 ...sounds like they are making a new "Rocky" movie soundtrack ...
or it's going to be another "Rocky/rough" ride?!?!
The title of this article is horrendace, !!
SB~ New "ROCKIER" album for 2011!!
brywool wrote:Holy Heart Attack Batman...
I TOTALLY thought you meant "Rocky" like ROCKY BALBOA -as did MG. I was thinking it was going to be "What it Takes to Win" over and over (pretty much the only track off Rev that I didn't like).
I don't think I'd seen ONE MORE (linked in the article.) Cool.
Michigan Girl wrote:LOL ...here's something we haven't heard before ...
"Doors are finally opening for Journey after Neal Schon discovered a goldmine while surfing the
Internet desperately looking for a new lead singer. Filipino Arnel Pineda ..." In fact, most everything
has already been posted here from the caveman updates!!
Positive article, however ...good job Journey Mngmt!!
WTH w/the title ..New Rocky Album for 2011 ...sounds like they are making a new "Rocky" movie soundtrack ...
or it's going to be another "Rocky/rough" ride?!?!
SB~ New "ROCKIER" album for 2011!!
Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Negative tone? I thought I was being positive.
I'm still waiting to see how they do with this next Album but if it's the same old shit I'm done. I am giving them slack because Revelations was written before Arnel and I am curious to see what he brings to the table and how they can fit the melody around songs suited for his voice and whether or not they are really going to stick to their word and deliver something new and fresh.
I agree completely with what you said, I feel bad that I jumped on board this band so late, but then again I couldn't help it....I wasn't fucking born when they were still relevant goddamnit. I'm mainly tired of hearing excuses from Neal and the band. Why they can't do this, or that or anything. It's like they are stuck in the 70's and 80's where the internet didn't exist and record labels actually meant something. Nobody is holding them back but themselves. They don't want to make radio friendly hits and really want to break out and play whatever they want in concert? then fucking do it.
Marabelle wrote:do u ever wonder what this band could be without people who no tar hisry? if they culd just sing and play without someone reminding thm of a past singer or song even if they've played the tune more timmes then a man can shake a stick...gues mybe they're playing to pay the bilz and not for the luv.
Jana wrote:Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Negative tone? I thought I was being positive.
I'm still waiting to see how they do with this next Album but if it's the same old shit I'm done. I am giving them slack because Revelations was written before Arnel and I am curious to see what he brings to the table and how they can fit the melody around songs suited for his voice and whether or not they are really going to stick to their word and deliver something new and fresh.
I agree completely with what you said, I feel bad that I jumped on board this band so late, but then again I couldn't help it....I wasn't fucking born when they were still relevant goddamnit. I'm mainly tired of hearing excuses from Neal and the band. Why they can't do this, or that or anything. It's like they are stuck in the 70's and 80's where the internet didn't exist and record labels actually meant something. Nobody is holding them back but themselves. They don't want to make radio friendly hits and really want to break out and play whatever they want in concert? then fucking do it.
Well, everybody is different and all over the place regarding their music. Some don't love their real early music and love it more a few years in when Perry's voice deepened a little. So many didn't like ROR b/c they felt it went pop and missed the old Journey more rock sound. Same with TBF. Some loved everything but TBF, like me, though it did have some great songs on it, and there are others that think it's one of their best albums. Some like me loved Arrival. I thought Revelation was a good album. It had some really good songs. It wasn't a great album, but neither was TBF. So everybody has an opinion when Journey became unoriginal, I guess, or even which albums didn't work.
Ligzig wrote:Jana wrote:Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Negative tone? I thought I was being positive.
I'm still waiting to see how they do with this next Album but if it's the same old shit I'm done. I am giving them slack because Revelations was written before Arnel and I am curious to see what he brings to the table and how they can fit the melody around songs suited for his voice and whether or not they are really going to stick to their word and deliver something new and fresh.
I agree completely with what you said, I feel bad that I jumped on board this band so late, but then again I couldn't help it....I wasn't fucking born when they were still relevant goddamnit. I'm mainly tired of hearing excuses from Neal and the band. Why they can't do this, or that or anything. It's like they are stuck in the 70's and 80's where the internet didn't exist and record labels actually meant something. Nobody is holding them back but themselves. They don't want to make radio friendly hits and really want to break out and play whatever they want in concert? then fucking do it.
Well, everybody is different and all over the place regarding their music. Some don't love their real early music and love it more a few years in when Perry's voice deepened a little. So many didn't like ROR b/c they felt it went pop and missed the old Journey more rock sound. Same with TBF. Some loved everything but TBF, like me, though it did have some great songs on it, and there are others that think it's one of their best albums. Some like me loved Arrival. I thought Revelation was a good album. It had some really good songs. It wasn't a great album, but neither was TBF. So everybody has an opinion when Journey became unoriginal, I guess, or even which albums didn't work.
Of course. Opinions are the driving force that make forums work. I'm a Journey fan, not a J-boyz fan and I'm not a loon either, even though I would totally go gay for Steve Perry.
lol ... ME TOO!!!Ligzig wrote:Jana wrote:Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Negative tone? I thought I was being positive.
I'm still waiting to see how they do with this next Album but if it's the same old shit I'm done. I am giving them slack because Revelations was written before Arnel and I am curious to see what he brings to the table and how they can fit the melody around songs suited for his voice and whether or not they are really going to stick to their word and deliver something new and fresh.
I agree completely with what you said, I feel bad that I jumped on board this band so late, but then again I couldn't help it....I wasn't fucking born when they were still relevant goddamnit. I'm mainly tired of hearing excuses from Neal and the band. Why they can't do this, or that or anything. It's like they are stuck in the 70's and 80's where the internet didn't exist and record labels actually meant something. Nobody is holding them back but themselves. They don't want to make radio friendly hits and really want to break out and play whatever they want in concert? then fucking do it.
Well, everybody is different and all over the place regarding their music. Some don't love their real early music and love it more a few years in when Perry's voice deepened a little. So many didn't like ROR b/c they felt it went pop and missed the old Journey more rock sound. Same with TBF. Some loved everything but TBF, like me, though it did have some great songs on it, and there are others that think it's one of their best albums. Some like me loved Arrival. I thought Revelation was a good album. It had some really good songs. It wasn't a great album, but neither was TBF. So everybody has an opinion when Journey became unoriginal, I guess, or even which albums didn't work.
Of course. Opinions are the driving force that make forums work. I'm a Journey fan, not a J-boyz fan and I'm not a loon either, even though I would totally go gay for Steve Perry.
Don wrote:Marabelle wrote:do u ever wonder what this band could be without people who no tar hisry? if they culd just sing and play without someone reminding thm of a past singer or song even if they've played the tune more timmes then a man can shake a stick...gues mybe they're playing to pay the bilz and not for the luv.
Yeah.
Rockindeano wrote:Don wrote:Marabelle wrote:do u ever wonder what this band could be without people who no tar hisry? if they culd just sing and play without someone reminding thm of a past singer or song even if they've played the tune more timmes then a man can shake a stick...gues mybe they're playing to pay the bilz and not for the luv.
Yeah.
Your humour slays me G. "Yeah." I mean what else could you say?
Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Since 78 wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Some people have no sense of humor....
Ligzig wrote:brywool wrote:Holy Heart Attack Batman...
I TOTALLY thought you meant "Rocky" like ROCKY BALBOA -as did MG. I was thinking it was going to be "What it Takes to Win" over and over (pretty much the only track off Rev that I didn't like).
I don't think I'd seen ONE MORE (linked in the article.) Cool.
What it takes to win....perfect example of why to never let Cain write ever again. Ever.
portland wrote:Since 78 wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Some people have no sense of humor....
78 lighten up.......^^^^that is one classic post!
.....
Well, everybody is different and all over the place regarding their music. Some don't love their real early music and love it more a few years in when Perry's voice deepened a little. So many didn't like ROR b/c they felt it went pop and missed the old Journey more rock sound. Same with TBF. It is considered by many to be a little boring. Some loved everything but TBF, like me, though it did have some great songs on it, and there are others that think it's one of their best albums. Some like me loved Arrival. I thought Revelation was a good album. It had some really good songs. It wasn't a great album, but neither was TBF. So everybody has an opinion when Journey became unoriginal, I guess, or even which albums didn't work.
Jana wrote:portland wrote:Since 78 wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Lidzig, put your head back on …I barely recognize that negative tone!!
You hear the same song over and over because they are trying to stick to the
legacy sound without one of the key ingredients. They try to come up w/new recipes,
but the outcome tastes like pooh, so they end up going back to a recipes they are
familiar with. Still, no matter how hard they try something just isn’t right. The songs
are overdone, not done enough, too salty, too sweet, but mostly just not enough of
something …perhaps w/this change, this new direction, they won’t feel the need to ride the coattails
of the missing ingredient that they’ve already declared no longer exists …NOMOTA!!! Good Luck J~Boys
Some people have no sense of humor....
78 lighten up.......^^^^that is one classic post!
Ride the coattails of what, themselves, Neal and Jon, co-writers of all their music? lol Revelation had the Journeyesque sound but didn't remind me of Steve Perry days in the least. There's some really good songs on there. But I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with this album, but there had better be some ballads and mid-tempo songs on there or I might have to bail.
fredinator wrote:.....
Well, everybody is different and all over the place regarding their music. Some don't love their real early music and love it more a few years in when Perry's voice deepened a little. So many didn't like ROR b/c they felt it went pop and missed the old Journey more rock sound. Same with TBF. It is considered by many to be a little boring. Some loved everything but TBF, like me, though it did have some great songs on it, and there are others that think it's one of their best albums. Some like me loved Arrival. I thought Revelation was a good album. It had some really good songs. It wasn't a great album, but neither was TBF. So everybody has an opinion when Journey became unoriginal, I guess, or even which albums didn't work.
So logical--this sounds like a description of most of the fanbase. Neal has said a couple of times that this album was rockin' and slammin'--maybe it's going to rock a little harder since they had so much success at the head-banger concert in Europe... Anyhoo, I love a rockin' Journey/Neal (hard and melodic) so I'm really anticipating this album. No album has disappointed me at all actually--they all have some great tunes on them--Neal and SP's side gigs, too.
fredinator wrote:I can't imagine a Journey album without one or two slower songs--Spaceman was on one of the early Neal/Journey albums (I can't remember which one right offhand). People and Places is another one (dang, I can't remember which album it's on either, lol). The 70s albums are my favorites and they had some really rockin' music on them and also these beautiful ballads which really don't sound as corny as the 80s ballads were... Ramble, ramble, sorry.
fredinator wrote:I can't imagine a Journey album without one or two slower songs--Spaceman was on one of the early Neal/Journey albums (I can't remember which one right offhand). People and Places is another one (dang, I can't remember which album it's on either, lol). The 70s albums are my favorites and they had some really rockin' music on them and also these beautiful ballads which really don't sound as corny as the 80s ballads were... Ramble, ramble, sorry.
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