Oil Spill Devastation

[The_Noble_Cause]

so we have to drill baby drill in order NOT TO BE INFLUENCED by foriegn oil... America works becuase we can keep oil costs
down... this is how you do it... at least thats how its supposed to work...

Except that it isn't. What we drill here doesn't affect oil prices on the world market, which is where oil is sold. Domestic oil does not stay here.

[7 Wishes]

FROM THE AP:

A report released this week from the inspector general's office at the Interior Department revealed federal inspectors overseeing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico accepted meals and tickets to sporting events from companies they monitored.

The report said all the events detailed in it occurred before 2007.

KEN SALAZAR:

Salazar was blunt in his response. "We've done a lot to clean the house at MMS, unlike the previous administration," he said. "This is not the candy store of the oil and gas kingdom which you and others were a part of."

REUTERS:

In one case, an inspector in the MMS office in Lake Charles, Louisiana, conducted inspections of four offshore platforms while negotiating a job with the company, the report said.

Others let oil and gas company workers fill out their inspection forms in pencil, with the inspectors writing over those entries in ink before turning them in

YAHOO:

"The oil companies were running MMS during those [Bush] years," Bobby Maxwell, a former top auditor with the agency, told Rolling Stone last year. "Whatever they wanted, they got. Nothing was being enforced across the board at MMS."

PENSACOLA TIMES-JOURNAL

The Bush administration [is] primarily responsible for the spill.

The only way that happened was because there was a concerted effort to take all of the teeth out of regulations.

FACT-CHECK.ORG

1) The Republican party allowed the [oil] industry and the private sector [of the oil industry] to regulate themselves. TRUE

According to the OIG report, prior to 2007, inspection forms were routinely filled out by oil production employees and finalized with an inspector’s signature. Many inspectors and oil industry employees were life-long friends, which led to conflicts of interest, specifically concerning the proper implication of fines or safety write-ups. Because the Republican administration was in office during these incidents and ultimately presided over MMS, we rate Ms. Wasserman Schultz’s statement.

NEW YORK TIMES:

Managers at the agency have routinely overruled staff scientists whose findings highlight the environmental risks of drilling, according to a half-dozen current or former agency scientists.

The scientists, none of whom wanted to be quoted by name for fear of reprisals by the agency or by those in the industry, said they had repeatedly had their scientific findings changed to indicate no environmental impact or had their calculations of spill risks downgraded.

“You simply are not allowed to conclude that the drilling will have an impact,” said one scientist who has worked for the minerals agency for more than a decade. “If you find the risks of a spill are high or you conclude that a certain species will be affected, your report gets disappeared in a desk drawer and they find another scientist to redo it or they rewrite it for you.”

[lights1961]

so we have to drill baby drill in order NOT TO BE INFLUENCED by foriegn oil... America works becuase we can keep oil costs
down... this is how you do it... at least thats how its supposed to work...

Except that it isn't. What we drill here doesn't affect oil prices on the world market, which is where oil is sold. Domestic oil does not stay here.

it will effect markets eventually, if we are unable to drill at all...

[7 Wishes]

Right. Whatever.

Less than 1% of our total demand can be met even if ALL our fields are being utilized simultaneously.

Try again.

[donnaplease]

I saw something on TV a while ago about a strip club applying for relief funds from BP due to the oil spill...

Should they get it?

[7 Wishes]

If it was a natural silicone leak, I'd say so...but not when it's oil and natural gas.

[RossValoryRocks]

If it was a natural silicone leak, I'd say so...but not when it's oil and natural gas.

Now that's funny!

Sad as it is...I think they should. Their income was taken as much as the fishermen and shrimpers.

[7 Wishes]

The topic of conversation here is the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that there was a collusive relationship between BP and the GOBP, and that consequential deregulation led to the conditions that caused the disaster.

[lights1961]

The topic of conversation here is the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that there was a collusive relationship between BP and the GOBP, and that consequential deregulation led to the conditions that caused the disaster.

good miss direction...

[The Sushi Hunter]

Boosh's Fault

Yeah, that guy was hilarious when he was making those crazy claims during Iraqi public addresses that the U.S. Military wasn't even in Iraq. He should have been a comedian rather than an Iraqi Military spokesperson. I'll bet ya Saddam was rolling in tears watching this fucker making those rediculous claims to the Iraqi people from the safety of his hidden underground bunker.

[The_Noble_Cause]

7, can you explain why, if BP had the big bad Cons so tight in their back pockets, would BP then make Barack their biggest recipient of their campaign cash?

The same reason Wall Street dropped wheelbarrows full of cash at Obama's feet. It's called playing the odds.

[treetopovskaya]

The topic of conversation here is the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that there was a collusive relationship between BP and the GOBP, and that consequential deregulation led to the conditions that caused the disaster.

when is the gov going to waive the jones act? and why haven't they already?

imo they should have months ago.

i don't expect an answer because i already asked this with no response.

[treetopovskaya]

pubbies AND dems take from oil companies.

[RossValoryRocks]

Anyone who thinks that the HIGH level politicians in Washington aren't in someone pocket is completely off their rocker...

Rep. No Name from Bum Fuck Egypt (Maine) who doesn't have a plum assignment on a power committee, ok maybe him...but the rest? HAH...they are ALL on the take...

[Don]

The topic of conversation here is the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that there was a collusive relationship between BP and the GOBP, and that consequential deregulation led to the conditions that caused the disaster.

when is the gov going to waive the jones act? and why haven't they already?

imo they should have months ago.

i don't expect an answer because i already asked this with no response.

Just to note, foreign "oil spill response vessels" are allowed under the Jones Act. BP has already purchased three Dutch Skimmers which are being used and there over a dozen other foreign ships involved in the cleanup, none of which required waivers to enter the area.

[treetopovskaya]

The topic of conversation here is the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that there was a collusive relationship between BP and the GOBP, and that consequential deregulation led to the conditions that caused the disaster.

when is the gov going to waive the jones act? and why haven't they already?

imo they should have months ago.

i don't expect an answer because i already asked this with no response.

Just to note, foreign "oil spill response vessels" are allowed under the Jones Act. BP has already purchased three Dutch Skimmers which are being used and there over a dozen other foreign ships involved in the cleanup, none of which required waivers to enter the area.

"Currently, foreign vessels need to obtain a Jones Act waiver from the federal government in order to help with the cleanup efforts. For many of the vessels wishing to respond, this request needs to be reviewed by three separate agencies: The coast guard, the maritime administration and customs and border protection. That is three layers of bureaucracy when time is of the essence. During this crisis, we need to cut through the red tape we must get all available assets on the scene as quickly as possible."

amen!

[treetopovskaya]

The topic of conversation here is the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that there was a collusive relationship between BP and the GOBP, and that consequential deregulation led to the conditions that caused the disaster.

when is the gov going to waive the jones act? and why haven't they already?

imo they should have months ago.

i don't expect an answer because i already asked this with no response.

*testing... testing... 1... 2... 3... testing... allo?*

[ohsherrie]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

[Michigan Girl]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

[lights1961]

here is the story that ohsherrie is talking about... foolish on the region... only defense I have of this is after all the screaming for the national guard... they realized they really wont be much help??? and money would be better spent elsewhere?? The guard would be served better doing something else?? Anyway you look at it... its not the best move to yell and scream... and then not use what you are asking for...



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/ ... ontentBody

[ohsherrie]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

No, the moron from Mississippi is also a rethug and he's pasty white. Jingles is the one that's making the biggest spectacle of himself.

[Michigan Girl]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

No, the moron from Mississippi is also a rethug and he's pasty white. Jingles is the one that's making the biggest spectacle of himself.

Exactly, pasty~whitey is ignored ...now, I am curious as to WHY this is happening ...I don't give a shit if you're left or right, pasty or black, the f*cking ocean belongs to everyone!!

[lights1961]

Day 67. I think the oil is still spilling...

[RossValoryRocks]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

No, the moron from Mississippi is also a rethug and he's pasty white. Jingles is the one that's making the biggest spectacle of himself.

No that would be Obama. I sincerely doubt you would say a word if any of the governors were nice liberal democrats.

[ohsherrie]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

No, the moron from Mississippi is also a rethug and he's pasty white. Jingles is the one that's making the biggest spectacle of himself.

Exactly, pasty~whitey is ignored ...now, I am curious as to WHY this is happening ...I don't give a shit if you're left or right, pasty or black, the f*cking ocean belongs to everyone!!

Are you asking why Jingles is making the biggest spectacle or why none of the governors are taking advantage of all of the resources available to them? Pasty Barbour isn't being as ignored as he was before he said some incredibly stupid things about the spill, such as:

"It bothers me to talk about causing an escrow to be made, uh, which will, which makes it less likely that they'll make the income that they need to pay us."

Ummm, does that mean the income they need to keep buying the government with?

and:

"Once it gets to this stage, it's not poisonous, but if a small animal got coated enough with it, it could smother it. But if you got enough toothpaste on you, you couldn't breathe."

He's a real pip.

The reason I think Jingles is grabbing all the indignant glory is because he was the party's "chosen one" until he bungled his rebuttal to the President's first state of the union address and came out looking like a bad joke. He's getting his revenge and his second chance in the spotlight.

[ohsherrie]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

No, the moron from Mississippi is also a rethug and he's pasty white. Jingles is the one that's making the biggest spectacle of himself.

No that would be Obama. I sincerely doubt you would say a word if any of the governors were nice liberal democrats.

I'm not liberal. I'm not even really a democrat. I'm an anti-rethuglican.

[RossValoryRocks]

According to CBS News yesterday evening the president authorized the deployment of 6,000 national guard troops to help in Louisiana but Jingles is only using about a third of them while he stands around posing amid the devastation and screams for more help.

Playing a little politics while the marshlands are destroyed Jingles?

Puhleeze, it seems to be all of the governors in all of the states affected ...waiting to hear why?!? Is Jindal the only "R" in the group for your entertainment or are you just a racist?!?!

No, the moron from Mississippi is also a rethug and he's pasty white. Jingles is the one that's making the biggest spectacle of himself.

No that would be Obama. I sincerely doubt you would say a word if any of the governors were nice liberal democrats.

I'm not liberal. I'm not even really a democrat. I'm an anti-rethuglican.

Don't forget anti-Christian, anti-Jew etc etc. Right now the.only.THUGs in Washington are Democrats....raping the productive people of their hard earned money to pay off the unproductive to vote for them.

[ohsherrie]

Don't forget anti-Christian, anti-Jew etc etc. Right now the.only.THUGs in Washington are Democrats....raping the productive people of their hard earned money to pay off the unproductive to vote for them.

I'm not specifically anti-Christian or anti-Jew, I don't like organized religion of any type. No, the thugs in Washington are the ones who don't think anybody who doesn't have enough money to line their (the politicians') pockets and off shore tax shelters are worth a decent living. Some are Democrat, the overwhelming majority are rethugs.

If they cared at all about the real economy of this country, which happens on Main Street not Wall Street and sure as hell not in the pentagon, that Wall Street reform bill would have had some teeth in it. Instead they Dems and rethugs alike chose to look after the interest of the crooks that are raping the economy of this country.

There were a hell of a lot more productive tax paying people in this country before Bush/Cheney sold out all of the middle class jobs to put more Wall Street money into off shore tax shelters.

[7 Wishes]

Thanks for proving my point about Bush's cronyism and the consequences of his deregulation.

[RossValoryRocks]

Thanks for proving my point about Bush's cronyism and the consequences of his deregulation.

Uhh...that article doesn't prove that...exactly the opposite as a matter of fact...