Will Steve Perry Make Journey To Reunion Tour?

[Monker]

Interesting...this sheds a bit of different light on the entire saga, doesn't it?

Especially this part:

Schon says he and other band members feel that Perry - who's been selling out theaters the last year playing Journey's best stuff - should be doing this with the whole band for much more money, and in bigger halls. Considering the reunion fever (and cash) in rock today, who can blame them?

Who can blame Neal and Jon for hiring Steve Augeri? Perry was already out there performing Journey hits without them - why shouldn't they do the same to him - especially after he said "no tour"?

How does this have anything to do with hiring Augeri? This was before TBF was even recorded. It was before they even decided if Perry was going to be in the reunion.

Perry set the standard that it was okay to play Journey songs on tour without the other band members' blessings. How can he blame Jon and Neal after he did it himself?

Also, in that case, it was The Storm who set the standard to perform Journey songs without other band members. So there.

It is true that the Storm performed a few Journey songs. But, they also performed almost the ENTIRE debut album. Perry performed a JOURNEY set with solo songs added. There is a big defference there.

[portland]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

[Jana]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

[Don]

Didn't Perry have credits on 90% of the Journey songs that he performed? I mean he's getting paid for them, why not sing them, right?

[Jana]

Didn't Perry have credits on 90% of the Journey songs that he performed? I mean he's getting paid for them, why not sing them, right?

Off course. Just don't accuse the band of cracking the stone, when he did it first on solo, when he didn't seem to want to carry on with the band. But he did sing Faithfully, too.

[Art Vandelay]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Ok, but what does that mean? Did he cost them any money or time for this? Were they all not performing and touring at some capacity at this point (Bad English, The Storm, Hardline, Vital Information)?

[Michigan Girl]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

[Don]

Neal's just mad because while they are doing all the work right now, Perry is getting a lot of the glory (and cash) by simply doing nothing. You should have got yourself a better lawyer, guys.

[Jana]

Neal's just mad because while they are doing all the work right now, Perry is getting a lot of the glory (and cash) by simply doing nothing. You should have got yourself a better lawyer, guys.

Dreamer.

Neal is a happy man. He's loaded, gets to go on the road doing what he loves (instead of doing nothing). Getting a lot of attention these days with Journey. He said he's loving it. And he has his newest bombshell on his arm. Life is good for Neal.

[portland]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Jana, you know I know the history!!!

[Art Vandelay]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

Bless you, child!!! Someone gets it!

[Art Vandelay]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Ok, but what does that mean? Did he cost them any money or time for this? Were they all not performing and touring at some capacity at this point (Bad English, The Storm, Hardline, Vital Information)?

And if you really want to read into history, keep in mind that FTLOSM came out just when Journey was planning to reform with Chalfant on vocals. WOrd of this started around '92-'93. Perry addresses this on the Much Music interview (which unfortunately is no longer available on Youtube). He wishes them well. Now let's all step back in time here...Journey and SP haven't been heard from in 8 years. Had the new Journey decided to go out on tour at this time, who do you think the general public would pay to see? The VOICE of Journey, or the original band with someone who sounds like the VOICE. Make sense now why Neal was so pissed?

[Don]

They gave in to Perry's demands way to easy.

Was Roger Waters able to stop Floyd from touring, was Dennis able to stop Styx?
And those guys were original band members, something Perry wasn't.
The precedent for dealing with finicky ex-band mates had already been set legally, yet Neal and Jon STILL sold the farm to a guy who wasn't even an original member of the band.
And then they had the balls to complain about it?

Herbie wasn't kidding when he talked about some tools in the shed not being as sharp as others.

[Monker]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

Right, ROR cracked the stone because that album and tour should never have had Journey's name.

[Jana]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

Bless you, child!!! Someone gets it!

I heard that. But Neal and company saw it differently. I agree with Neal. Journey didn't need to fold b/c Perry was gone and not interested. Perry had his right to feel that way, but Neal and Company had their right to their feelings, also.

[Deb]

I agree with Neal.

Of course you do.

[Michigan Girl]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

Right, ROR cracked the stone because that album and tour should never have had Journey's name.

Really?!? I loved it!! When I saw the show Live in three different states, I saw the three main players!!
Were Smitty and Ross missed ...hell yeah, I sorta felt a little cracked right then!!

[Jana]

I agree with Neal.

Of course you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U

[Art Vandelay]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

Bless you, child!!! Someone gets it!

I heard that. But Neal and company saw it differently. I agree with Neal. Journey didn't need to fold b/c Perry was gone and not interested. Perry had his right to feel that way, but Neal and Company had their right to their feelings, also.

Understood and well said. Funny, isn't it, how the TBF debacle scarred everyone - fans and band members alike - in some way? It does make me wonder, though....had the TBF reunion at least produced a single tour and everyone went their "Separate Ways" afterwards (Perry solo and Journey with anew lead singer), would the argument of Perry singing Journey material on his own even exist?

[Deb]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

Right, ROR cracked the stone because that album and tour should never have had Journey's name.

Really?!? I loved it!! When I saw the show Live in three different states, I saw the three main players!!
Were Smitty and Ross missed ...hell yeah, I sorta felt a little cracked right then!!

Agreed! Would looooove to have seen an ROR concert, but sadly the ROR tour didn't make it across the border. Although, I saw the Escape tour here in '82, so I can't complain too much.

[Deb]

I agree with Neal.

Of course you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U

LOL!

[Monker]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Ok, but what does that mean? Did he cost them any money or time for this? Were they all not performing and touring at some capacity at this point (Bad English, The Storm, Hardline, Vital Information)?

And if you really want to read into history, keep in mind that FTLOSM came out just when Journey was planning to reform with Chalfant on vocals. WOrd of this started around '92-'93. Perry addresses this on the Much Music interview (which unfortunately is no longer available on Youtube). He wishes them well. Now let's all step back in time here...Journey and SP haven't been heard from in 8 years. Had the new Journey decided to go out on tour at this time, who do you think the general public would pay to see? The VOICE of Journey, or the original band with someone who sounds like the VOICE. Make sense now why Neal was so pissed?

This is so lame.

How can you predict AT ALL who 'the public' would come to see back in 1995? Keep in mind that Journey was reforming with Chalfant AND Rolie, basicaly combining the Storm with Journey. Asuuming that Perry would outsell that lineup is a HUGE guess...and I don't think a very accurate one. Perry was selling theaters. Journey sells to arenas. Journey would get more corporate backing from the name alone...and more radio time because of the history - and recent success of the Storm.

You are all also taking an article from 1995 and relating it to a Neal interview from 2008 where he is STILL angry about Perry's BTM comments from 2000...and saying it is because Perry went on tour and performed a Journey set. Neal was pissed because of Perry's comments in the BTM and people still giving it some kind of credit that is not due. Perry had no right to tell Journey what to do - he took a seat on the bench. When you do that, don't expect the rest of the team to listen to you.

[Jana]

Monker's comments were absolutely right on point. Plus 1000.

[Art Vandelay]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Ok, but what does that mean? Did he cost them any money or time for this? Were they all not performing and touring at some capacity at this point (Bad English, The Storm, Hardline, Vital Information)?

And if you really want to read into history, keep in mind that FTLOSM came out just when Journey was planning to reform with Chalfant on vocals. WOrd of this started around '92-'93. Perry addresses this on the Much Music interview (which unfortunately is no longer available on Youtube). He wishes them well. Now let's all step back in time here...Journey and SP haven't been heard from in 8 years. Had the new Journey decided to go out on tour at this time, who do you think the general public would pay to see? The VOICE of Journey, or the original band with someone who sounds like the VOICE. Make sense now why Neal was so pissed?

This is so lame.

How can you predict AT ALL who 'the public' would come to see back in 1995? Keep in mind that Journey was reforming with Chalfant AND Rolie, basicaly combining the Storm with Journey. Asuuming that Perry would outsell that lineup is a HUGE guess...and I don't think a very accurate one. Perry was selling theaters. Journey sells to arenas. Journey would get more corporate backing from the name alone...and more radio time because of the history - and recent success of the Storm.

You are all also taking an article from 1995 and relating it to a Neal interview from 2008 where he is STILL angry about Perry's BTM comments from 2000...and saying it is because Perry went on tour and performed a Journey set. Neal was pissed because of Perry's comments in the BTM and people still giving it some kind of credit that is not due. Perry had no right to tell Journey what to do - he took a seat on the bench. When you do that, don't expect the rest of the team to listen to you.

So why didn't they? Where was the Sony love?

[Jana]

B/c Journey/Perry was perferable. But if that didn't happen, solo Perry vs. Journey with Rolie/Chalfant is a different story re venues, corporate backing, etc.

[AlteredDNA]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Ok, but what does that mean? Did he cost them any money or time for this? Were they all not performing and touring at some capacity at this point (Bad English, The Storm, Hardline, Vital Information)?

And if you really want to read into history, keep in mind that FTLOSM came out just when Journey was planning to reform with Chalfant on vocals. WOrd of this started around '92-'93. Perry addresses this on the Much Music interview (which unfortunately is no longer available on Youtube). He wishes them well. Now let's all step back in time here...Journey and SP haven't been heard from in 8 years. Had the new Journey decided to go out on tour at this time, who do you think the general public would pay to see? The VOICE of Journey, or the original band with someone who sounds like the VOICE. Make sense now why Neal was so pissed?

This is so lame.

How can you predict AT ALL who 'the public' would come to see back in 1995? Keep in mind that Journey was reforming with Chalfant AND Rolie, basicaly combining the Storm with Journey. Asuuming that Perry would outsell that lineup is a HUGE guess...and I don't think a very accurate one. Perry was selling theaters. Journey sells to arenas. Journey would get more corporate backing from the name alone...and more radio time because of the history - and recent success of the Storm.

You are all also taking an article from 1995 and relating it to a Neal interview from 2008 where he is STILL angry about Perry's BTM comments from 2000...and saying it is because Perry went on tour and performed a Journey set. Neal was pissed because of Perry's comments in the BTM and people still giving it some kind of credit that is not due. Perry had no right to tell Journey what to do - he took a seat on the bench. When you do that, don't expect the rest of the team to listen to you.

So why didn't they? Where was the Sony love?

Because there was no tour?

[Art Vandelay]

Just for shits & giggles...

David Lee Roth performed VH material on his solo tours (so did/does Sammy).

Dianna Ross performed Supremes material on her solo tours.

Dennis DeYoung performed Styx material on his solo tours.

Stevie Nicks did it minus the Mac. Don Henley did it without the Eagles.

Michael McDonald performs Doobie Brothers material on his solo tours.

So does Dion (minus the Belmonts) and Frankie Valli (minus the Four Seasons).

Anyone ever heard of Paul McCartney, for Christ's sake???

Phil Collins made the decision to not cross his material with Genesis material while on tour. His solo career was just as successful, so there was no need.

Why should Perry get blasted for performing material live that he's mostly known for?

Cause it made Neal mad......???????????????

Mostly Neal was mad and said F'ck Him b/c Perry said they were cracking the stone when Perry left them high and dry and they were moving on, when, in reality, here Perry was the one out there playing Journey music all alone first on his solo tour. Read your history, Princess of Darkness.

Ok, but what does that mean? Did he cost them any money or time for this? Were they all not performing and touring at some capacity at this point (Bad English, The Storm, Hardline, Vital Information)?

And if you really want to read into history, keep in mind that FTLOSM came out just when Journey was planning to reform with Chalfant on vocals. WOrd of this started around '92-'93. Perry addresses this on the Much Music interview (which unfortunately is no longer available on Youtube). He wishes them well. Now let's all step back in time here...Journey and SP haven't been heard from in 8 years. Had the new Journey decided to go out on tour at this time, who do you think the general public would pay to see? The VOICE of Journey, or the original band with someone who sounds like the VOICE. Make sense now why Neal was so pissed?

This is so lame.

How can you predict AT ALL who 'the public' would come to see back in 1995? Keep in mind that Journey was reforming with Chalfant AND Rolie, basicaly combining the Storm with Journey. Asuuming that Perry would outsell that lineup is a HUGE guess...and I don't think a very accurate one. Perry was selling theaters. Journey sells to arenas. Journey would get more corporate backing from the name alone...and more radio time because of the history - and recent success of the Storm.

You are all also taking an article from 1995 and relating it to a Neal interview from 2008 where he is STILL angry about Perry's BTM comments from 2000...and saying it is because Perry went on tour and performed a Journey set. Neal was pissed because of Perry's comments in the BTM and people still giving it some kind of credit that is not due. Perry had no right to tell Journey what to do - he took a seat on the bench. When you do that, don't expect the rest of the team to listen to you.

So why didn't they? Where was the Sony love?

Because there was no tour?

Thank you, Captain Obvious

[Tomulator]

Cracking the Stone was using the Journey name ...not singing the songs!!

THANK YOU!!!

We have a WINNER!!!

Finally...someone understands the context of the "cracking the stone" comment.

Thanks MG.

[Art Vandelay]

B/c Journey/Perry was perferable. But if that didn't happen, solo Perry vs. Journey with Rolie/Chalfant is a different story re venues, corporate backing, etc.

I'm not so sure about that....Perry and Journey were still synonymous at the time. I really don't think a Perry-less tour would have sold arenas...not after the band being gone for eight years. They toured the same small theaters with Augeri that Perry played AFTER TBF was released and they were back in the public eye.

[Jana]

B/c Journey/Perry was perferable. But if that didn't happen, solo Perry vs. Journey with Rolie/Chalfant is a different story re venues, corporate backing, etc.

I'm not so sure about that....Perry and Journey were still synonymous at the time. I really don't think a Perry-less tour would have sold arenas...not after the band being gone for eight years. They toured the same small theaters with Augeri that Perry played AFTER TBF was released and they were back in the public eye.

Rolie back with them and maybe Chalfant b/c of Storm's success would have been different. And Steve Smith would have been with them. I think a much better draw than with Augeri, and they might have drawn bigger venues.