Oil Spill Devastation

[The Sushi Hunter]

Anyone who would interpret my post as "angry" would have to be severely out of touch with reality.

Not angry at all....but yes quite delusional. I think you've been doing a pushup on that blue ball a little too long.

[7 Wishes]

Tell me what about it is "delusional"? There is no subjectivity when it comes to absolute truths. Real facts cannot be distorted. I merely passed them along.

As far as the reference to Limbaugh, Hannity, et all...really now! I've been told (in no uncertain terms) that I apparently have an affinity for performing fellatio on Obama and pretty much every other left-leaning public figure in America. That would definitely come to a surprise to my wife...but, come on. I actually found those remarks to be rather humorous and wasn't put off by them in the least. So, then - why all the fuss when I throw back at you the same that was heaped upon me? It smacks of the standard-issue GOBP hypocrisy that frustrates me so.

Way to hop aboard the soundbite express.

And I really do think RightWingFruitcake and HesseFan just get the bullet points from O'Reilly's and Limbaugh's websites and regurgitate them, verbatim. In fact, that IS what they do.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I think you should be on a political debate forum instead. But I don't think you would get on one of those and post because those guys would have a field day with you and all your delusional theories.

[donnaplease]

Oh, bullshit, Donna. I just provided an AP article detailing exactly how Obama reacted to the crisis, how his hands were tied by Bush-era deregulation (which he should have, mind you, addressed before now, although he had enough on his hands, what with having to rescue the country from a potential second Depression and Bush's second recession), and how the GOBP's eight years of manipulation laid the ground for this disaster. Spare me the moribund and unfounded rhetoric, go back and read the articles, and get off your high horse.

So many of you are choking on Limbaugh's cock and rectally bleeding from your repeated sodomization at the fists of Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, Katz, and Beck that you barely have enough time to repeat (ad nauseum) their jaded, slanted, and factually unfounded talking points. You wouldn't know an original thought if Kant and Hume came back from the dead, entered your bodies in your sleep, and took control of your brains and slacked jaws. Enough already.

Hey Daniel... project much?

His hands weren't tied if he (or the dems) had 3 years to overturn these so-called Bush-era deregulations and chose to do nothing. Still waiting for someone to educate this dumbass airhead conservative on why no one from the left addressed that, if big oil is the huge monster that they claim it to be. You guys expect Bush to be responsible for 9/11 because he was in office for 8 months before it happened. Ok, I hear that argument (and agree with some aspects of it), but on the flip side why isn't Obama responsible for the oil crisis given that he was a senator in a democratic-controlled congress and then president for over a year before it happened? If there's a reasonable answer, I'd love to hear it. No talking points, just talking.

Your loving kindness is much appreciated, BTW. Sending those warm fuzzies right back atcha! Can you feel 'em?

[lights1961]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

[G.I.Jim]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

[lights1961]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

yep... also we here at the MR expert lounge are doing a lot of ass kicking as well... just saying...
hehe...

[G.I.Jim]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

yep... also we here at the MR expert lounge are doing a lot of ass kicking as well... just saying...
hehe...

What are you saying Rick?

[lights1961]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

yep... also we here at the MR expert lounge are doing a lot of ass kicking as well... just saying...
hehe...

What are you saying Rick?

that were not kicking ass....

[ohsherrie]

No-one on the Wrong (or, rather, the Right) bothers to address the volumes of information or posts that refute any of their contentions...

They totally ignore facts in favor of rethug propaganda and talking points. But then, if they didn't they wouldn't be rethugs.

Have you noticed that they somehow inevitably get back the the blow job in the White House? I mean, Bush lied thousands of people to death, created a massive deficit and devastated the economy and the worst they can come up with is that Obama hasn't fixed in 1 1/2 years what Bush/Cheney spent 8 years destroying (including the deregulation that led to this latest disaster in the gulf) and Clinton got a blow job in the oval office.

This video explains a lot. We're clearly expecting too much of them. They really can't do any better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/2 ... 29099.html

[treetopovskaya]

You are quite a pain in the ass.

How do those glasses work that enable you to selectively see (and hence read)? When one of your right-wing nutjob heroes on this board tears me, Deano, TNC, or Sherrie, to shreds, you just stand idly by and often applaud.

Anyone who would interpret my post as "angry" would have to be severely out of touch with reality. But, I give you this - it's a good way to distract attention away from the real issues and points. No-one on the Wrong (or, rather, the Right) bothers to address the volumes of information or posts that refute any of their contentions...but, wow! Slander the Democrats or accuse them of being hot-heads...that's perfectly alright.

At least the GOBP'ers on this board let you know where they stand. You weave back and forth, nimbly trying to kiss everyone's ass when it suits you.

Tell me what about it is "delusional"?

go ask dean, tnc & sherrie if they feel i should be defending them? if you think i should you ARE delusional.

i don't kiss anyones ass... nor do i weave. prove it.

[donnaplease]

Sitting in the doctor's office a while ago, I picked up the Rolling Stone magazine, a magazine well-known for it's liberal leanings. In the June 24 edition there was a very long article discussing the oil spill. Since no one here could (or more likely wouldn't because it would expose them for what they truly are) explain Obama's responsibility - or lack thereof - for reversing the lucifer GWB's de-regulation, I will share the article here.

Looks like I was right after all (at least according to the liberal author of this piece). You wanna put 9/11 on Bush, go right ahead. But likewise lay the blame for the oil crisis where it belongs. Obama failed us. I guess he's human afterall.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

Take it as you will.

[7 Wishes]

Unbelieveable. First of all, I already posted this article. Secondly, it starts by stating just how corrupt the relationship between the Bush Administration and Big Oil was, and how Bush's 8 years of deregulation laid the foundation for the disaster in the first place.

Way to selectively read and cherry-pick.

I should add that the Limbaugh reference was in no way directed towards you. There are three individuals in particular I had in mind. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Unbelieveable. First of all, I already posted this article. Secondly, it starts by stating just how corrupt the relationship between the Bush Administration and Big Oil was, and how Bush's 8 years of deregulation laid the foundation for the disaster in the first place.

Haven't read it yet, but from what I hear, it depicts Salazar as this administration's Brownie.

[The_Noble_Cause]

BREAKING

US will accept 22 offers of help from 12 countries and international groups in dealing with Gulf oil spill - NBC News, AP
35 minutes ago via breakingnews.com

Laughably overdue. On nearly every issue, Obama has helped bolster the GOP's case against goverment.

[Rockindeano]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

Yeah but under our previous leader, he proclaimed "Mission Accomplished."

Just love how you respect your Commander in Chief. You'll respect that lying motherfucker Bush because he did coke and went in the Air Guard, and lied us into war, err, I mean because he is a republican, but God forbid you don't show your current boss a single ounce of respect. Bunch of crap Jim, seriously. As a soldier, this shouldn't happen, but we all know you career military guys are dyed in the wool republicans. Why I have no idea.

[donnaplease]

Unbelieveable. First of all, I already posted this article. Secondly, it starts by stating just how corrupt the relationship between the Bush Administration and Big Oil was, and how Bush's 8 years of deregulation laid the foundation for the disaster in the first place.

Way to selectively read and cherry-pick.

I should add that the Limbaugh reference was in no way directed towards you. There are three individuals in particular I had in mind. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire.

I didn't selectively read it, Daniel. I read the part about Bush's involvement. I get that, and at this point I don't think there's any dispute that things were bad under the Bush administration in that regard. What I found interesting in the article (that I honestly didn't see if you posted it earlier because I really don't look too closely at the links posted by either side) was how scathing it was for a liberal source to essentially confirm what I was questioning in my earlier posts. It took it a step farther, though, and pretty much ripped Obama for not living up to his promises. It really just goes to show that neither side is guilt-free, and that you can't solely blame "Bush's deregulation" for this disaster. Based on your first paragraph, would you then be willing to concede that Clinton's failure to act in a decisive way laid the foundation for 9/11? Surely you can see the parallel here...

As for the Limbaugh comment, I'm not really even sure which one you're talking about, but don't sweat it. Getting pretty immune to stuff like that being said. Somebody's always got someone's balls on their chin or taking it up the poop shoot around here it seems...

Edit to add: Regarding the Bush-era running of the MMS... If it did in fact happen the way it's described in this article, it is deplorable. I would not excuse that behavior under anybody's watch. I would be interested to hear any of the upper level folks in Bush's inner circle answer to these allegations.

[donnaplease]

Does anyone know what the MMS is doing now to ensure the existing oil rigs are safe? Are they working overtime to ensure that this doesn't happen somewhere else? Obviously that aspect of the agency has been lacking for some time.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Does anyone know what the MMS is doing now to ensure the existing oil rigs are safe? Are they working overtime to ensure that this doesn't happen somewhere else? Obviously that aspect of the agency has been lacking for some time.

I bet they make sure the firefighting vessels don't sink the rig if it happens again. As someone mentioned on here earlier, what made this situation bad was that the firefighting technique they used sank the rig and that's what caused the damage to the blow out/cut off valve/mechanism and subsequent leak.

[lights1961]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

Yeah but under our previous leader, he proclaimed "Mission Accomplished."

Just love how you respect your Commander in Chief. You'll respect that lying motherfucker Bush because he did coke and went in the Air Guard, and lied us into war, err, I mean because he is a republican, but God forbid you don't show your current boss a single ounce of respect. Bunch of crap Jim, seriously. As a soldier, this shouldn't happen, but we all know you career military guys are dyed in the wool republicans. Why I have no idea.

the air force mission was accomplished... just saying... the govt of the ruling regime in IRAQ was no where in sight... so in a small scale at the moment in sprng 2003...that part of the mission was accomplished... they actually had new elections was it Jan 2004... so in reality the mission was accomplished... the rogue fighters in IRAQ didnt think so however... that is where the adm failed to understand right away and it took them way too long to figure that part out... but in the end... we did accomplish what we sent out to do...

[lights1961]

day 71...

[7 Wishes]

the air force mission was accomplished... just saying... the govt of the ruling regime in IRAQ was no where in sight... so in a small scale at the moment in sprng 2003...that part of the mission was accomplished... they actually had new elections was it Jan 2004... so in reality the mission was accomplished... the rogue fighters in IRAQ didnt think so however... that is where the adm failed to understand right away and it took them way too long to figure that part out... but in the end... we did accomplish what we sent out to do...

Thank you for that jaded, slanted, and laughably ridiculous post, Rush.

[G.I.Jim]

day 71... and OIL is still spilling...

Don't sweat it, B.O. is going to be kicking asses!

Yeah but under our previous leader, he proclaimed "Mission Accomplished."

Just love how you respect your Commander in Chief. You'll respect that lying motherfucker Bush because he did coke and went in the Air Guard, and lied us into war, err, I mean because he is a republican, but God forbid you don't show your current boss a single ounce of respect. Bunch of crap Jim, seriously. As a soldier, this shouldn't happen, but we all know you career military guys are dyed in the wool republicans. Why I have no idea.

It's funny how no matter WHAT is said about Obama... you go right back to Bush. EVERY time! What does Bush have to do with my post? Nothing! You act like I loved Bush, and while I did agree with the war in the beginning, I changed my opinion about three years ago. Bush fucked a lot of things up in this country, and his spending was WAY out of control. His last term was pretty laughable. I still think he's a decent human being, but he made several shitty decisions.

As far as Obama goes, I respect the position he holds... nothing more. You earn respect, and he has not done that. He's thrown us into more debt than any other president in our history, he crammed his health care agenda down the throats of Americans who as a majority did NOT want it, and he's handled this oil spill just like mayor Nagin. All he's interested in is pointing fingers, "ass-kicking", and throwing accusations. Just like Louisiana had Busses sitting there, we now have oil skimmers there... SITTING there doing nothing!

He will prove to be one of the worst presidents of all time. Mark my words. He has ZERO leadership abilities, and it's all coming to light in front of America's eyes on a daily basis. Just turn on the news and watch it unfold...

Oh, and Bush served his country through his military service. You keep throwing up a document that was proved to be a fake. And in worse-case scenario, and he DID get out early... at least he served!

[lights1961]

the air force mission was accomplished... just saying... the govt of the ruling regime in IRAQ was no where in sight... so in a small scale at the moment in sprng 2003...that part of the mission was accomplished... they actually had new elections was it Jan 2004... so in reality the mission was accomplished... the rogue fighters in IRAQ didnt think so however... that is where the adm failed to understand right away and it took them way too long to figure that part out... but in the end... we did accomplish what we sent out to do...

Thank you for that jaded, slanted, and laughably ridiculous post, Rush.

your welcome... you were speechless werent you...

[Michigan Girl]

the air force mission was accomplished... just saying... the govt of the ruling regime in IRAQ was no where in sight... so in a small scale at the moment in sprng 2003...that part of the mission was accomplished... they actually had new elections was it Jan 2004... so in reality the mission was accomplished... the rogue fighters in IRAQ didnt think so however... that is where the adm failed to understand right away and it took them way too long to figure that part out... but in the end... we did accomplish what we sent out to do...

Thank you for that jaded, slanted, and laughably ridiculous post, Rush.

your welcome... you were speechless werent you...

One could hope!!

[7 Wishes]

LOL.

Seriously, tbat's the most flawed justification yet for Bush's antics. It's incredibly funny because it's just so flat-out wrong.

[RossValoryRocks]

LOL.

Seriously, tbat's the most flawed justification yet for Bush's antics. It's incredibly funny because it's just so flat-out wrong.

Maybe we should quit posting BLAME and start FINDING SOLUTIONS to what is screwed up??

Your blaming of Bush for everything from A to Z doesn't change the FACT that Obama, regardless of being handed a mess or not, is FAILING BADLY at ALMOST everything to this point.

So maybe turn your mighty intellect to something useful and actually offer up what the President SHOULD do?

[treetopovskaya]

LOL.

Seriously, tbat's the most flawed justification yet for Bush's antics. It's incredibly funny because it's just so flat-out wrong.

Maybe we should quit posting BLAME and start FINDING SOLUTIONS to what is screwed up??

Your blaming of Bush for everything from A to Z doesn't change the FACT that Obama, regardless of being handed a mess or not, is FAILING BADLY at ALMOST everything to this point.

So maybe turn your mighty intellect to something useful and actually offer up what the President SHOULD do?

good advice... & maybe also learn how to use the quote feature. }:C)

[7 Wishes]

Stu, relax. I've held Obama to task more and more, and have been very candid in my lack of support for the way he's handled his first 18 months.

That has NOTHING to do with lights1961's remarks about Bush's "Mission Accomplished" spiel.

It's not for me to enumerate what the President should do at this juncture. It would help if there wasn't such derision and division. A little cooperation from the GOP would be very helpful, and an acknowledgement from the left that the impact of our current lifestyles on the future of the environment won't matter much if the defici increases to the degree that the dollar devalues like the Italian Lire.

[7 Wishes]

good advice... & maybe also learn how to use the quote feature. }:C)

I'll tell you what...when you start using (even on occasion) decent grammar, punctuation, and capitalization, I'll utilize the quote feature a little more liberally. How does that sound, buttercup?