The Party's Over

[Jeremey]

I thought Stevie Keys played keys on this? Lora?

He does. Where did anyone say he doesn't? He obviously wasn't going to be the full-time keys player because he helped create one song. That honor went to JC and he helped them reach the stratosphere of the industry and put the mostly horrid songwriting behind them.

That blurb from Time 3 gave credit to Tim Gorman.

[Jeremey]

I thought Stevie Keys played keys on this? Lora?

He does. Where did anyone say he doesn't? He obviously wasn't going to be the full-time keys player because he helped create one song. That honor went to JC and he helped them reach the stratosphere of the industry and put the mostly horrid songwriting behind them.

Hey, you know what Dan, I'll go you one further.....Steve Perry didn't bring all that success to the band. Jon Cain did. The difference in Journey from pre-Cain and Post Cain from a commercial standpoint is absolutely stunning. Take a look at the lyric book both before and after. Perry, my main man, is the voice for the band, but Cain is the voice of the people, which made all the difference for this band.

[portland]

I thought Stevie Keys played keys on this? Lora?

He does. Where did anyone say he doesn't? He obviously wasn't going to be the full-time keys player because he helped create one song. That honor went to JC and he helped them reach the stratosphere of the industry and put the mostly horrid songwriting behind them.

Hey, you know what Dan, I'll go you one further.....Steve Perry didn't bring all that success to the band. Jon Cain did. The difference in Journey from pre-Cain and Post Cain from a commercial standpoint is absolutely stunning. Take a look at the lyric book both before and after. Perry, my main man, is the voice for the band, but Cain is the voice of the people, which made all the difference for this band.

Don't you think it was the sum of all (three) parts...really???

[Jeremey]

Don't you think it was the sum of all (three) parts...really???

Absolutely. Neal, Jon, and Steve Perry could not have made the magic on their own that their chemistry did in the band Journey. I guess what I meant was that the missing ingredient from the success of a...Say, "Where Were You" versus a "Who's Cryin' Now" is a lyrical piece of the puzzle that Cain was able to bring to the table. Don't get me wrong.....Cain without Perry or Schon is nothing when combined with that magical energy Perry and Schon (and Rolie) had already cultivated. I look at it this way....There's a pool of primordial pop music soup sitting there, and all the proteins and amino acids are all sitting there in play, and then Cain's lyrical and melodic energy strikes like a godfinger, setting the stage for what would become superstardom beyond any of their individual reach.

[Deb]

Don't you think it was the sum of all (three) parts...really???

Absolutely. Neal, Jon, and Steve Perry could not have made the magic on their own that their chemistry did in the band Journey. I guess what I meant was that the missing ingredient from the success of a...Say, "Where Were You" versus a "Who's Cryin' Now" is a lyrical piece of the puzzle that Cain was able to bring to the table. Don't get me wrong.....Cain without Perry or Schon is nothing when combined with that magical energy Perry and Schon (and Rolie) had already cultivated. I look at it this way....There's a pool of primordial pop music soup sitting there, and all the proteins and amino acids are all sitting there in play, and then Cain's lyrical and melodic energy strikes like a godfinger, setting the stage for what would become superstardom beyond any of their individual reach.

Sorry, just had to bold that in case Tito missed it.

[Jana]

I thought Stevie Keys played keys on this? Lora?

He does. Where did anyone say he doesn't? He obviously wasn't going to be the full-time keys player because he helped create one song. That honor went to JC and he helped them reach the stratosphere of the industry and put the mostly horrid songwriting behind them.

Hey, you know what Dan, I'll go you one further.....Steve Perry didn't bring all that success to the band. Jon Cain did. The difference in Journey from pre-Cain and Post Cain from a commercial standpoint is absolutely stunning. Take a look at the lyric book both before and after. Perry, my main man, is the voice for the band, but Cain is the voice of the people, which made all the difference for this band.

Nice to see Cain getting the praise he so rightfully deserves on MR, but never gets, regarding his songwriting. I have always said you could see the difference in the songwriting when he came on board. I love a lot of the Rolie era too, and was right for the time. But they needed to progress, and Cain definitely took them to the next level with their music.

[Jana]

I thought Stevie Keys played keys on this? Lora?

He does. Where did anyone say he doesn't? He obviously wasn't going to be the full-time keys player because he helped create one song. That honor went to JC and he helped them reach the stratosphere of the industry and put the mostly horrid songwriting behind them.

Hey, you know what Dan, I'll go you one further.....Steve Perry didn't bring all that success to the band. Jon Cain did. The difference in Journey from pre-Cain and Post Cain from a commercial standpoint is absolutely stunning. Take a look at the lyric book both before and after. Perry, my main man, is the voice for the band, but Cain is the voice of the people, which made all the difference for this band.

Don't you think it was the sum of all (three) parts...really???

I have to laugh at you saying this. If Jeremey had said Steve Perry brought all the success to the band, we wouldn't have heard a peep out of you correcting him by saying "Don't you think it was the sum all three parts, really." LOL.

[portland]

I thought Stevie Keys played keys on this? Lora?

He does. Where did anyone say he doesn't? He obviously wasn't going to be the full-time keys player because he helped create one song. That honor went to JC and he helped them reach the stratosphere of the industry and put the mostly horrid songwriting behind them.

Hey, you know what Dan, I'll go you one further.....Steve Perry didn't bring all that success to the band. Jon Cain did. The difference in Journey from pre-Cain and Post Cain from a commercial standpoint is absolutely stunning. Take a look at the lyric book both before and after. Perry, my main man, is the voice for the band, but Cain is the voice of the people, which made all the difference for this band.

Nice to see Cain getting the praise he so rightfully deserves on MR, but never gets, regarding his songwriting. I have always said you could see the difference in the songwriting when he came on board. I love a lot of the Rolie era too, but Cain definitely took them to the next level with their music.

Jana..if nothing else...I get it was the mix of the three....it won't happen again.

[Ehwmatt]

Jeremey, while you're in here, let me go on record as saying if you guys ever forget to play this one at a show I'm at, I'll bumrush the fuckin stage

[Rockindeano]

Jeremey, while you're in here, let me go on record as saying if you guys ever forget to play this one at a show I'm at, I'll bumrush the fuckin stage

Nothing like a pissed off moth heading for the corn on the cob eh? Dude, St John told me you go about 150...

[Ehwmatt]

Jeremey, while you're in here, let me go on record as saying if you guys ever forget to play this one at a show I'm at, I'll bumrush the fuckin stage

Nothing like a pissed off moth heading for the corn on the cob eh? Dude, St John told me you go about 150...

Either you're really drunk or using some really fuckin sophisticated imagery, I don't understand the moth and corn stuff.

[Rockindeano]

Jeremey, while you're in here, let me go on record as saying if you guys ever forget to play this one at a show I'm at, I'll bumrush the fuckin stage

Nothing like a pissed off moth heading for the corn on the cob eh? Dude, St John told me you go about 150...

Either you're really drunk or using some really fuckin sophisticated imagery, I don't understand the moth and corn stuff.

Yeah, wasted on three bottles of Merlot....my analogy was....

a moth, harmless in nature, heads for the BBQ picnic corn....so as not to say the human could swat it's sorry ass to oblivion.

Make more sense dude? Sorry, Hammered.

I get drunk I can write like Springsteen, almost.

[Ehwmatt]

Make more sense dude? Sorry, Hammered.

You are forgiven besides the fact that you're drinking red wine. I expect you to be guzzling PBR Tall Boys, not fuckin red wine.

[RossValoryRocks]

Make more sense dude? Sorry, Hammered.

You are forgiven besides the fact that you're drinking red wine. I expect you to be guzzling PBR Tall Boys, not fuckin red wine.

Nothing better than an wine buzz...and red wine is good for the heart...

[Ehwmatt]

Make more sense dude? Sorry, Hammered.

You are forgiven besides the fact that you're drinking red wine. I expect you to be guzzling PBR Tall Boys, not fuckin red wine.

Nothing better than an wine buzz...and red wine is good for the heart...

I just can't get into it man. I don't mind a glass of Riesling if someone orders a bottle and I'll always drink champagne, but I'd rather just drink beer.

[Rockindeano]

I buy this red Merlot from Ralphs(Kroger) for 1.97 a bottle. Lula is in NY, so I get the boy down, flip on Nascar, and hammer the Merlot. It's genius.