IS STEVE PERRY OBSOLETE

[Eric]

No they couldn't, not even with Perry they couldn't. His absence has crippled the band in that regard. Fans don't take lightly a person who takes off 20 years. The fans of Springsteen and Bon Jovi respect those bands and know they can count on both of them to be here year after year. You can't count on Journey for anything.

Had they stayed together they would have been able to achieve great heights, but that is lost forever. I still say no matter who sings for Journey that they are BETTER than Bon Jovi though....

[Michigan Girl]

No.

Good Answer ..."NO"

Let's see whose name is still standing tall 20 years from now!!

Will Journey fans even be alive in 20 years?

Well I hope so ...you're just a babe, you plan on it, right?!?
Journey may not be here in 20 years ...but the voice will live on!!

[portland]

No.

Good Answer ..."NO"

Let's see whose name is still standing tall 20 years from now!!

Will Journey fans even be alive in 20 years?

Well I hope so ...you're just a babe, you plan on it, right?!?
Journey may not be here in 20 years ...but the voice will live on!!

I will be here..to remind them all!!

[Since 78]

Digital Audio Tape

I wanted to be certifiably insane one of these days!

[Deb]

Digital Audio Tape

I wanted to be certifiably insane one of these days!

LOL, not all it's cracked up to be, 78.

[Michigan Girl]

Digital Audio Tape

I wanted to be certifiably insane one of these days!

awww, you are!! We've known since post #2!!

[Since 78]

Digital Audio Tape

I wanted to be certifiably insane one of these days!

awww, you are!! We've known since post #2!!

Thanks! I feel much better now!

[lights1961]

nice reading... perry is and never will be obsolete... heck he might be more relevent as time goes on because of the late sucess of DSB...this song will be the reason eventully joruney will make it in Rock and Roll hall of Fame... And I was wrong to about a year or two years ago now to say that DSB wasnt their signature song...I was blinded by not liking escape as much as evolution.... thinking LTS was more of a signature song than DSB...



Rick

[Abitaman]

IS STEVE PERRY OBSOLETE

Yes, in the point that he no longer makes music

No, because it his music that a lot of people are trying to do

[Brigadier]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

[portland]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

[Since 78]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

[Don]

In ten years, we'll have to revisit this.

[portland]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

78...FU....and well as many Loons as there are....I think you have your answer.

[Babyblue]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

AMEN!!!!

[Jana]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

78...FU....and well as many Loons as there are....I think you have your answer.

Oh, yes, the Steve Perry forum is just on fire.

[portland]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

78...FU....and well as many Loons as there are....I think you have your answer.

Oh, yes, the Steve Perry forum is just on fire.

Jana and Neal's solo tour had what 12 people??



Like I said....next year....I will attend a coveted Journey show....and well then we will see!

[Jana]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

78...FU....and well as many Loons as there are....I think you have your answer.

Oh, yes, the Steve Perry forum is just on fire.

Jana and Neal's solo tour had what 12 people??



Like I said....next year....I will attend a coveted Journey show....and well then we will see!

You said Arnel does nothing for you all year from videos, so I'm not holding my breath for your review. I already know what it says. Nice deflection from my Perry comment. touche

[Since 78]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

78...FU....and well as many Loons as there are....I think you have your answer.

Oh, yes, the Steve Perry forum is just on fire.

Jana and Neal's solo tour had what 12 people??



Like I said....next year....I will attend a coveted Journey show....and well then we will see!

There were twenty at least!

[portland]

Steve Perry's recordings and compositions aren't obsolete as revenue streams.
A big part of their salability rests on nostalgia.

I'd argue his voice may be shot, and his songwriting ability may be stylistically
obsolete in the present market for new tunes.

I realize there's frustration over not being able to hear Perry sing HIS songs
with Journey, onstage with Journey. I also realize there's frustration over how
a large number of Pineda fans can be just as idiotic as some of Perry's loons.

Those frustrations seem to be translating into an unfairly-hostile attitude
towards ALL fans of a Pineda-fronted Journey, and even to hostility towards
Pineda himself.


-wech

Good post. I agree. For me, I'd be happy to see Rolie lead Journey again, with Cain gone. I truly believe Neal needs to turn a corner with Journey. In fact, he needs to get on his knees, and kiss JSS's a** and ask him back, lose cain, and bring on Rolie. Let's get some of the Infinity era duets going again. JMO. YMMV.

And yes, Perry is obsolete.

Another country heard from...the simple fact that this tread exists means he is not obsolete....by a long shot.

Tread? I don't know what you mean anyway, this "tread" was started because someone asked the question. I think we should ask if Loons are obsolete!

78...FU....and well as many Loons as there are....I think you have your answer.

Oh, yes, the Steve Perry forum is just on fire.

Jana and Neal's solo tour had what 12 people??



Like I said....next year....I will attend a coveted Journey show....and well then we will see!

There were twenty at least!

OK....20 I stand corrected!!!

[Don]

It started off with around 200 people (maybe I'm being too gracious here) but whittled it's way down to to half that after the first hour and shrank to about two dozen after the crowd realized that Schon wasn't going to play DSB or any other Journey hits.

[portland]

It started off with around 200 people (maybe I'm being to gracious here) but whittled it's way down to to half that after the first hour and shrank to about two dozen after the crowd realized that Schon wasn't going to play DSB or any other Journey hits.

Yeah...Perry is obsolete.

[Since 78]

It started off with around 200 people (maybe I'm being to gracious here) but whittled it's way down to to half that after the first hour and shrank to about two dozen after the crowd realized that Schon wasn't going to play DSB or any other Journey hits.

Yeah...Perry is obsolete.

Well, to be fair, I overheard these guys saying " I thought they were going to play Journey songs" and I'm like who's going to sing them? Those clowns had probably never heard the Journey songs they did play, which BTW were great.

[portland]

It started off with around 200 people (maybe I'm being to gracious here) but whittled it's way down to to half that after the first hour and shrank to about two dozen after the crowd realized that Schon wasn't going to play DSB or any other Journey hits.

Yeah...Perry is obsolete.

Well, to be fair, I overheard these guys saying " I thought they were going to play Journey songs" and I'm like who's going to sing them? Those clowns had probably never heard the Journey songs they did play, which BTW were great.

There is always a tape....oops not nice!!!

[Don]

There was promotion and affordable tickets. It's just that people don't associate Schon with anything beyond Journey. They know if Perry EVER came out there he would be singing Journey songs regardless but they might actually know Oh Sherrie or Foolish Heart. With Neal though, if he ain't playing the dirty dozen, the majority of fans won't be impressed. it doesn't matter if it's HSAS or Piranha Blues. it's not what they think of when they hear that Neal Schon of Journey is performing.

[portland]

There was promotion and affordable tickets. It's just that people don't associate Schon with anything beyond Journey. They know if Perry EVER came out there he would be singing Journey songs regardless but they might actually know Oh Sherrie or Foolish Heart. With Neal though, if he ain't playing the dirty dozen, the majority of fans won't be impressed. it doesn't matter if it's HSAS or Piranha Blues. it's not what they think of when they hear that Neal Schon of Journey is performing.

It comes down to the simple fact...Journey needs to be Journey.

A bitter pill to swallow I am sure..but it is what it is.

The money and the accolades would come with a reunion...the rest is secondary.

[Since 78]

There was promotion and affordable tickets. It's just that people don't associate Schon with anything beyond Journey. They know if Perry EVER came out there he would be singing Journey songs regardless but they might actually know Oh Sherrie or Foolish Heart. With Neal though, if he ain't playing the dirty dozen, the majority of fans won't be impressed. it doesn't matter if it's HSAS or Piranha Blues. it's not what they think of when they hear that Neal Schon of Journey is performing.

There wasn't much advertising was there? I don't remember it being listed on the ticket master site, anyway I think it could have been a lot better, KLOS etc..

And I'm ignoring that lame comment portland.

[portland]

There was promotion and affordable tickets. It's just that people don't associate Schon with anything beyond Journey. They know if Perry EVER came out there he would be singing Journey songs regardless but they might actually know Oh Sherrie or Foolish Heart. With Neal though, if he ain't playing the dirty dozen, the majority of fans won't be impressed. it doesn't matter if it's HSAS or Piranha Blues. it's not what they think of when they hear that Neal Schon of Journey is performing.

There wasn't much advertising was there? I don't remember it being listed on the ticket master site, anyway I think it could have been a lot better, KLOS etc..

And I'm ignoring that lame comment portland.

Oh good 78...I was so worried!

[Since 78]

There was promotion and affordable tickets. It's just that people don't associate Schon with anything beyond Journey. They know if Perry EVER came out there he would be singing Journey songs regardless but they might actually know Oh Sherrie or Foolish Heart. With Neal though, if he ain't playing the dirty dozen, the majority of fans won't be impressed. it doesn't matter if it's HSAS or Piranha Blues. it's not what they think of when they hear that Neal Schon of Journey is performing.

It comes down to the simple fact...Journey needs to be Journey.

A bitter pill to swallow I am sure..but it is what it is.

The money and the accolades would come with a reunion...the rest is secondary.

Yeah, the reunion...right. Neal can still play but we have a problem with the other half.

[Jana]

There was promotion and affordable tickets. It's just that people don't associate Schon with anything beyond Journey. They know if Perry EVER came out there he would be singing Journey songs regardless but they might actually know Oh Sherrie or Foolish Heart. With Neal though, if he ain't playing the dirty dozen, the majority of fans won't be impressed. it doesn't matter if it's HSAS or Piranha Blues. it's not what they think of when they hear that Neal Schon of Journey is performing.

There wasn't much advertising was there? I don't remember it being listed on the ticket master site, anyway I think it could have been a lot better, KLOS etc..

And I'm ignoring that lame comment portland.

We all ignore her lame comments.

Well, didn't the show Cyndy go to have a nice crowd. What's KLOS?