Part 2 - Mel Gibson

[Rip Rokken]

That's exactly what I'm saying, and to answer BobbyInTN, I'm definitely not excusing Mel for anything.

Rip, sorry if you thought I was accusing you of excusing his behavior. You're a better man than that.

No, no man, no worries - I didn't think that at all. I was just responding to the comment.

[Rip Rokken]

I didn't think about that. Do you ever use the "N" word?

After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.

Are you serious? What is that anyway?

It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.

And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.

Dang, are you serious? When do they show that? I know it's not strictly a kids channel but hopefully not mixed in with the kiddie toons.

That's what's scary about cartoon network!! At a certain time of night, not even after midnight, the cartoons become more "adult" like. I found that one out a long time ago and I screened it very carefully. I really don't care for anything on that channel, even the kid cartoons though. Disney and Nickelodeon are much better.

Yeah, I don't watch it either. I think my little girl watches Boom. Just to clarify, do they say n***a or n***er? For some reason it's more acceptable with the "a" but not with the "er". Go figure. Here's something to ponder. If Steve Perry sang the "N" word, he'd sing it with an "aaaaa", and Alanis Morrisette or any of those Lilith Fair crooners would sing it with an "errrrrrrrrrrr".

[Don]

I didn't think about that. Do you ever use the "N" word?

After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.

Are you serious? What is that anyway?

It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.

And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.

Dang, are you serious? When do they show that? I know it's not strictly a kids channel but hopefully not mixed in with the kiddie toons.

That's what's scary about cartoon network!! At a certain time of night, not even after midnight, the cartoons become more "adult" like. I found that one out a long time ago and I screened it very carefully. I really don't care for anything on that channel, even the kid cartoons though. Disney and Nickelodeon are much better.

Yeah, I don't watch it either. I think my little girl watches Boom. Just to clarify, do they say n***a or n***er? For some reason it's more acceptable with the "a" but not with the "er". Go figure. Here's something to ponder. If Steve Perry sang the "N" word, he'd sing it with an "aaaaa", and Alanis Morrisette or any of those Lilith Fair crooners would sing it with an "errrrrrrrrrrr".

Here's a snippet from the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Rz7hXcoBs

[Rip Rokken]

Here's a snippet from the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Rz7hXcoBs

I'd say I'm stunned... but nothing surprises me any more these days. Still... on a cartoon network? I'm blocking that channel immediately just in case. Don't want my little girl picking any of that stuff up.

Back to the topic at hand, chicks scamming stars is really starting to be a popular business opportunity these days, especially since the Tiger Woods deal. Just saw this a few minutes ago:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... ld-student

[stevew2]

I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context.

out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chance

Well, maybe she was a "whore" how do we know she doesn't deserve that title? Maybe she was sleeping with other guys and he found out. How do WE know why he called her a whore? In estranged situations, especially involving a child, things can get very volatile very easily. Buttons can be pushed on both sides and it may not be pretty. I don't excuse abuse, but sometimes I think people are just horrible combinations and they BOTH need to own up. And sorry, he's right. It IS his money. She didn't help him earn it. His wife of 29 years deserved his money maybe, not her.

I can tell she planned the recording, but his drunk ass walked right into it. His demeanor and violent out burst is above just being pissed off.Ive been through shit before but never talked to someone like that.Listen to the whole thing.This guy is a wack job.Id never threaten someone like he did.He is fuckin crazy

[StevePerryHair]

I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context.

out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chance

Well, maybe she was a "whore" how do we know she doesn't deserve that title? Maybe she was sleeping with other guys and he found out. How do WE know why he called her a whore? In estranged situations, especially involving a child, things can get very volatile very easily. Buttons can be pushed on both sides and it may not be pretty. I don't excuse abuse, but sometimes I think people are just horrible combinations and they BOTH need to own up. And sorry, he's right. It IS his money. She didn't help him earn it. His wife of 29 years deserved his money maybe, not her.

I can tell she planned the recording, but his drunk ass walked right into it. His demeanor and violent out burst is above just being pissed off.Ive been through shit before but never talked to someone like that.Listen to the whole thing.This guy is a wack job.Id never threaten someone like he did.He is fuckin crazy

I said the whore thing lightheartedly anyway. I don't condone people being called whores. I personally don't judge people that way. I was using that as a harsh example of how quick everyone is to judge his words and not look at her as a player in this battle too. Though in heated situations such as estrangement, I can't say Im be surprised by the word being used by an ex. Especially when an ugly custody battle is involved. Divorce can be very ugly, SADLY. Saddest for the children. My whole point was that we don't know anything but the stuff he is saying in that tape. Because she was sure to control her words very carefuly. Wrong is wrong. But I am tired already, and its' only been a few days, of the media portraying her as some kind of saint who needs sympathy. I don't care if my opinion is unpopular or if I am a woman, so now that makes me "lesser" than the guys who wont take a side yet either. It's not about that. It's about the freaking media and their abuse of power. I am SO tired of it.

And the other side to this I am tired of, is how screwed men are in court when it comes to custody. On the very very slight chance that Mel isn't as bad as she is saying, I would want to give him the benefit of the doubt, at least until proven guilty. Because it has a huge thing at stake here. The custody of an innocent little child. I believe both parents should be involved in a child's life, without one parent hurting the relationship for the other. INCLUDING MEL. I lose respect for all parties when a baby is being used as a pawn by both sides. In cases of abuse, I realize that the child would be better with one parent. That's why I would hope that the courts will find out for damned sure looking at BOTH SIDES of this case before making decisions. If the media were the courts, forget it, he'd never see that child again. Alcholism is a serious thing, and if that enhances his anger, then he needs help. No question.

[Rockindeano]

You are making lot of sense Lynn. Great post btw.

[stevew2]

I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context.

out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chance

Well, maybe she was a "whore" how do we know she doesn't deserve that title? Maybe she was sleeping with other guys and he found out. How do WE know why he called her a whore? In estranged situations, especially involving a child, things can get very volatile very easily. Buttons can be pushed on both sides and it may not be pretty. I don't excuse abuse, but sometimes I think people are just horrible combinations and they BOTH need to own up. And sorry, he's right. It IS his money. She didn't help him earn it. His wife of 29 years deserved his money maybe, not her.

I can tell she planned the recording, but his drunk ass walked right into it. His demeanor and violent out burst is above just being pissed off.Ive been through shit before but never talked to someone like that.Listen to the whole thing.This guy is a wack job.Id never threaten someone like he did.He is fuckin crazy

I said the whore thing lightheartedly anyway. I don't condone people being called whores. I personally don't judge people that way. I was using that as a harsh example of how quick everyone is to judge his words and not look at her as a player in this battle too. Though in heated situations such as estrangement, I can't say Im be surprised by the word being used by an ex. Especially when an ugly custody battle is involved. Divorce can be very ugly, SADLY. Saddest for the children. My whole point was that we don't know anything but the stuff he is saying in that tape. Because she was sure to control her words very carefuly. Wrong is wrong. But I am tired already, and its' only been a few days, of the media portraying her as some kind of saint who needs sympathy. I don't care if my opinion is unpopular or if I am a woman, so now that makes me "lesser" than the guys who wont take a side yet either. It's not about that. It's about the freaking media and their abuse of power. I am SO tired of it.

And the other side to this I am tired of, is how screwed men are in court when it comes to custody. On the very very slight chance that Mel isn't as bad as she is saying, I would want to give him the benefit of the doubt, at least until proven guilty. Because it has a huge thing at stake here. The custody of an innocent little child. I believe both parents should be involved in a child's life, without one parent hurting the relationship for the other. INCLUDING MEL. I lose respect for all parties when a baby is being used as a pawn by both sides. In cases of abuse, I realize that the child would be better with one parent. That's why I would hope that the courts will find out for damned sure looking at BOTH SIDES of this case before making decisions. If the media were the courts, forget it, he'd never see that child again. Alcholism is a serious thing, and if that enhances his anger, then he needs help. No question.

If your ole man would say you should be hit in the head with a bat, then later talk about buryng you in the garden and then say I am capable to do that and you wouldnt run let hell , id think you are retarded or drunk.I dont know why some women worship men like Mel. Brad Pitt or anybody> The guy is a fuckin asshole ,get over it

[Sarah]

Here's a snippet from the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Rz7hXcoBs

I'd say I'm stunned... but nothing surprises me any more these days. Still... on a cartoon network? I'm blocking that channel immediately just in case. Don't want my little girl picking any of that stuff up.

At 10PM Cartoon Network becomes Adult Swim and shows "adult" cartoons like Family Guy, Futurama, Aqua Teen Hunger Force etc. Kinda like Nickelodeon changes to Nick At Nite. I'm not sure how old your little girl is but wouldn't she be in bed by 10 anyway? :p

[fredinator]

As bad as those tapes are, Oksana is totally on top of her financial situation, lol. I'm suspicious of her motives in spite of Mel's behavior. They're both pretty horrible.

[StevePerryHair]

I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context.

out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chance

Well, maybe she was a "whore" how do we know she doesn't deserve that title? Maybe she was sleeping with other guys and he found out. How do WE know why he called her a whore? In estranged situations, especially involving a child, things can get very volatile very easily. Buttons can be pushed on both sides and it may not be pretty. I don't excuse abuse, but sometimes I think people are just horrible combinations and they BOTH need to own up. And sorry, he's right. It IS his money. She didn't help him earn it. His wife of 29 years deserved his money maybe, not her.

I can tell she planned the recording, but his drunk ass walked right into it. His demeanor and violent out burst is above just being pissed off.Ive been through shit before but never talked to someone like that.Listen to the whole thing.This guy is a wack job.Id never threaten someone like he did.He is fuckin crazy

I said the whore thing lightheartedly anyway. I don't condone people being called whores. I personally don't judge people that way. I was using that as a harsh example of how quick everyone is to judge his words and not look at her as a player in this battle too. Though in heated situations such as estrangement, I can't say Im be surprised by the word being used by an ex. Especially when an ugly custody battle is involved. Divorce can be very ugly, SADLY. Saddest for the children. My whole point was that we don't know anything but the stuff he is saying in that tape. Because she was sure to control her words very carefuly. Wrong is wrong. But I am tired already, and its' only been a few days, of the media portraying her as some kind of saint who needs sympathy. I don't care if my opinion is unpopular or if I am a woman, so now that makes me "lesser" than the guys who wont take a side yet either. It's not about that. It's about the freaking media and their abuse of power. I am SO tired of it.

And the other side to this I am tired of, is how screwed men are in court when it comes to custody. On the very very slight chance that Mel isn't as bad as she is saying, I would want to give him the benefit of the doubt, at least until proven guilty. Because it has a huge thing at stake here. The custody of an innocent little child. I believe both parents should be involved in a child's life, without one parent hurting the relationship for the other. INCLUDING MEL. I lose respect for all parties when a baby is being used as a pawn by both sides. In cases of abuse, I realize that the child would be better with one parent. That's why I would hope that the courts will find out for damned sure looking at BOTH SIDES of this case before making decisions. If the media were the courts, forget it, he'd never see that child again. Alcholism is a serious thing, and if that enhances his anger, then he needs help. No question.

If your ole man would say you should be hit in the head with a bat, then later talk about buryng you in the garden and then say I am capable to do that and you wouldnt run let hell , id think you are retarded or drunk.I dont know why some women worship men like Mel. Brad Pitt or anybody> The guy is a fuckin asshole ,get over it

Well my old man wouldnt do that. I didn't knowingly marry an alcholic. IF the stories are true, Mel was an alcoholic years before she came into the picture. I do NOT worship Mel Gibson, Brad Pitt, or any other freaking hollywood guy. Where on earth did you get that from my above words??? I am JUST saying that everyone is jumping ready to crucify the guy on 5 minutes of his life SHE had the advantage of taping and leaking to the public. I don't respect her so maybe I am having a hard time crying for her the way the MEDIA is.

Asshole or not, is no bearing to me. I am tired of people giving the media one more excuse to bury someone. They live for this stuff and feed on this stuff. And then everyone loses sight of the fact there is a little baby in the middle of this.

Let me ask you people this. Why on EARTH was she holding that baby, if her story is true, in the middle of an argument with him when he was in a drunken rage?? Why, if she wanted to protect that baby, and he was SO angry at her, did she have that baby in her arms??? They have a nanny. Why? I question a lot of things because I am an analytical person by nature I guess. I am not going to take ANYTHING at face value when it comes to the media. The only use I have for Mel Gibson is that I enjoyed his movies and think he was a good actor and director. That does not make him a good man. But it does not make him the devil either. It makes him a man who needs a lot of help.

[Behshad]

My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.

So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.

Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.

If that be the case, there is still NO defending Mel and he was a hero of mine. I can't believe you are even tring to!

Listen chump. I never said I'm defending Mel's behavior or excusing him. There is no excuse. But I'm also not excusing the money hungry slut for what she's trying to do. You're completely blinded by the media , sticking to one side. I think they're both wrong and they both need professional help. Get it ?! Punk !

[StevePerryHair]

Apparently we can't question her. apparently once a woman claims abuse, makes a tape, and leaks it publicly, she is a victim we are supposed to feel sorry for immediately. Doesn't matter what she has said or done the whole relationship, or surrounding that tape, or the circumstances of that tape. she is golden now. I sure wouldn't want the people of MR to be my jury.

[Michigan Girl]

Apparently we can't question her. apparently once a woman claims abuse, makes a tape, and leaks it publicly, she is a victim we are supposed to feel sorry for immediately. Doesn't matter what she has said or done the whole relationship, or surrounding that tape, or the circumstances of that tape. she is golden now. I sure wouldn't want the people of MR to be my jury.

Oh I'm saying something, I don't care what anyone says...the girl could be completely innocent, but she took
the wrong road as far as I'm concerned. There are really women out there who are really abused, every day,
and really, really, really need help, these money hungry sleezebags playing the victim card give women everywhere
a bad name ...I'm pissed!! She needs help alright, get her a psychiatrist immediately!!!

And another thing ...from what I understand ...women who are really in danger of spousal/girlfriend
abuse, should be keeping a low profile, staying away from their attacker, not this. If Mel really is that dangerous
whomever leaked those tapes put this girl in further danger ...more stupidity!!

Can any of you imagine making tapes such as these and taking them to your husband's place of employment?!?!

[Behshad]

Apparently we can't question her. apparently once a woman claims abuse, makes a tape, and leaks it publicly, she is a victim we are supposed to feel sorry for immediately. Doesn't matter what she has said or done the whole relationship, or surrounding that tape, or the circumstances of that tape. she is golden now. I sure wouldn't want the people of MR to be my jury.

[StevePerryHair]

Apparently we can't question her. apparently once a woman claims abuse, makes a tape, and leaks it publicly, she is a victim we are supposed to feel sorry for immediately. Doesn't matter what she has said or done the whole relationship, or surrounding that tape, or the circumstances of that tape. she is golden now. I sure wouldn't want the people of MR to be my jury.

Meanie!! hey, I might be a good judge!

[Jana]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

[Arianddu]

I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.

I don't think anyone's defending him, they're just saying that she might not be so squeaky-clean either.

Personally I hate what he's said and done, and I think there is no way he can justify it, but I also question why these tapes have been released to the media. I understand why she made them in the first place, but I have no respect for anyone who uses the media in a divorce case.

[S2M]

I don't believe in god...I believe in Mel....lol

[Michigan Girl]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

[AlteredDNA]

[Begin Rant]

The only thing we should be hearing about is if he did in fact hit her, and then only when / if he's charged...

All the rest is for "behind closed doors" and the courtroom...

It's awful that all of these media outlets exist for the sole purpose of reporting on celebrities, primarily in a negative or unflattering way. Why does it matter who's sleeping together, who has cellulite, who is a bad tipper, etc... It's nauseating. Of course, these outlets wouldn't exist if weren't for an audience who lives for this kind of drivel. I know there's always been a certain fascination with the "rich and famous", but really, I think it's gone way beyond interest and into obsession with a good number of people.

[End Rant]

[StevePerryHair]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

Exactly. I would believe he is too. And maybe he is on meds. But excessive alcohol can counteract that. And she knew exactly what she was getting when she started dating him. Tell me how an almost 40 year old woman ACCIDENTALLY gets pregnant twice, with these older rich famous people? I just don't want to see the press building her into some sad person who needs sympathy and her career will boom now. And that's exactly what I've seen happening so far. She bothers me as much as what he has said to her.

[Since 78]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

I heard on the radio yesterday a women who knew her when she was with the previous guy, can't remember his name. Anyway, she was saying the she is very normal and that there were no issues like this with that guy.

[StevePerryHair]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

I heard on the radio yesterday a women who knew her when she was with the previous guy, can't remember his name. Anyway, she was saying the she is very normal and that there were no issues like this with that guy.

And maybe mel's ex wife would say the same thing, that he never hit her or threatened her. What is the point and what does it have to do with this situation? It may be the combination of these two people. Who knows who cares. Like DNA says, there is no reason this should have been public. Unless they can prove he hit her. She had an agenda and she seems to be on top now. I am tired of the media frenzies. They love to find people at their worst and bury them deeper. We see it over and over again. And it sells. It's really sick.

[Jana]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

Exactly. I would believe he is too. And maybe he is on meds. But excessive alcohol can counteract that. And she knew exactly what she was getting when she started dating him. Tell me how an almost 40 year old woman ACCIDENTALLY gets pregnant twice, with these older rich famous people? I just don't want to see the press building her into some sad person who needs sympathy and her career will boom now. And that's exactly what I've seen happening so far. She bothers me as much as what he has said to her.

an

Accidentally got pregnant? She had a ten-year relationship or more with Timothy Dalton. They lived together as husband and wife.

[Michigan Girl]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

I heard on the radio yesterday a women who knew her when she was with the previous guy, can't remember his name. Anyway, she was saying the she is very normal and that there were no issues like this with that guy.

Too late, I've already formed an opinion of victim girl , one she created!!!
She should never have made me privy to information that was none of my business to begin with!!

Big shout out to the post made by DNA and Lynn ...

[StevePerryHair]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

Exactly. I would believe he is too. And maybe he is on meds. But excessive alcohol can counteract that. And she knew exactly what she was getting when she started dating him. Tell me how an almost 40 year old woman ACCIDENTALLY gets pregnant twice, with these older rich famous people? I just don't want to see the press building her into some sad person who needs sympathy and her career will boom now. And that's exactly what I've seen happening so far. She bothers me as much as what he has said to her.

an

Accidentally got pregnant? She had a ten-year relationship or more with Timothy Dalton. They lived together as husband and wife.

oh really? Well the sensationalized media yesterday said it was a secret love child with him. See how the media portrays things?? And I doubt mel and her planned that baby when he was married at the time. You seriously are going to sit there and not admit that there ARE women capable if such things? Mels wife knew of other affairs I'm sure. And she stayed for whatever reasons. But I guess a baby must have been the last straw. Make no mistake, mel invited this into his life. He has responsibility in this and I am not freaking saying he is some good guy. It's very unfair for the press and others not to recognize that it takes two to make a relationship go bad. Maybe some of you can't see it because you've been in abusive situations yourselves. So it gives you an immediate sympathy to her. There is more than one side to every story though. She is no hero for what she did. Sorry. And that's exactly what she will be built into. Next we'll have all the womens advocate groups all over the media comparing her to every other abused woman on earth. Based on one 5 minute tape SHE made.

[Since 78]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

I heard on the radio yesterday a women who knew her when she was with the previous guy, can't remember his name. Anyway, she was saying the she is very normal and that there were no issues like this with that guy.

Too late, I've already formed an opinion of victim girl , one she created!!!
She should never have made me privy to information that was none of my business to begin with!!

Big shout out to the post made by DNA and Lynn ...

Just passing on information, not defending her. Like I said before, she was definitely setting him up.

[Jana]

Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

Exactly. I would believe he is too. And maybe he is on meds. But excessive alcohol can counteract that. And she knew exactly what she was getting when she started dating him. Tell me how an almost 40 year old woman ACCIDENTALLY gets pregnant twice, with these older rich famous people? I just don't want to see the press building her into some sad person who needs sympathy and her career will boom now. And that's exactly what I've seen happening so far. She bothers me as much as what he has said to her.

an

Accidentally got pregnant? She had a ten-year relationship or more with Timothy Dalton. They lived together as husband and wife.

oh really? Well the sensationalized media yesterday said it was a secret love child with him. See how the media portrays things?? And I doubt mel and her planned that baby when he was married at the time. You seriously are going to sit there and not admit that there ARE women capable if such things? Mels wife knew of other affairs I'm sure. And she stayed for whatever reasons. But I guess a baby must have been the last straw. Make no mistake, mel invited this into his life. He has responsibility in this and I am not freaking saying he is some good guy. It's very unfair for the press and others not to recognize that it takes two to make a relationship go bad. Maybe some of you can't see it because you've been in abusive situations yourselves. So it gives you an immediate sympathy to her. There is more than one side to every story though. She is no hero for what she did. Sorry. And that's exactly what she will be built into. Next we'll have all the womens advocate groups all over the media comparing her to every other abused woman on earth. Based on one 5 minute tape SHE made.

Actually, I'm basing my opinion of Mel on his bizarre behavior on tapes. There's no explaining away such bizarre and frightening behavior. He is a sick individual mentally. He has stated in interviews that in the 90s he was a morally and spiritually bankrupt individual and an alcoholic. This decade isn't looking much better for him. He has serious problems and needs to address them. Many people would never have believe OJ Simpson was capable of murder until it happened. Mel sounded on the edge of doing something on one of these tapes. When a woman is hit in the face, and he admits it, like he did on the tape, I don't sit on here and judge or question why was she holding the baby, like you stated. I don't the blame the victim when they are hit by a man.

Past all of that, I don't think she is some longtime victim. His behavior escalated and she is getting out, unlike women who are beaten down emotionally and stay in. Part of her reason for taping was probably to prove his abuse and, I don't now, part may be for negotiations. It's been stated he offered her 20 million but to have have custody eventually 50 percent of the time and she doesn't believe he should have the child that amount of time and turned it down. From what I heard, I wouldn't want my child in his care and custody either fifty percent of the time for no amount of money. She absolutely may turn out to have her own issues regarding playing hardball re financial. I never said she was a saint or that her behavior afterwards might not be so great. But that never colors, for me, that this man's rage is inexcusable and bizarre and his racist tendencies are strange. He needs help. The older he gets the worse he gets. He told her he left his wife because he had no spiritual common ground with her, or whatever he said. Wow. He's the one that needs spiritual help and medical. I don't believe Mel is evil. I think he just needs help, and if he doesn't get it, he will never find happiness.

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Mel has said in a 2008 interview that he had been diagnosed as manic depressive. I believe it. He needs to be on medication.

Then she was aware of what she was getting into before she got into it
and still proceeds to splatter his personal demons all over the media for her personal gain ...
I don't know who is more ill, my vote is for the fame hungry h----...

Exactly. I would believe he is too. And maybe he is on meds. But excessive alcohol can counteract that. And she knew exactly what she was getting when she started dating him. Tell me how an almost 40 year old woman ACCIDENTALLY gets pregnant twice, with these older rich famous people? I just don't want to see the press building her into some sad person who needs sympathy and her career will boom now. And that's exactly what I've seen happening so far. She bothers me as much as what he has said to her.

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Accidentally got pregnant? She had a ten-year relationship or more with Timothy Dalton. They lived together as husband and wife.

oh really? Well the sensationalized media yesterday said it was a secret love child with him. See how the media portrays things?? And I doubt mel and her planned that baby when he was married at the time. You seriously are going to sit there and not admit that there ARE women capable if such things? Mels wife knew of other affairs I'm sure. And she stayed for whatever reasons. But I guess a baby must have been the last straw. Make no mistake, mel invited this into his life. He has responsibility in this and I am not freaking saying he is some good guy. It's very unfair for the press and others not to recognize that it takes two to make a relationship go bad. Maybe some of you can't see it because you've been in abusive situations yourselves. So it gives you an immediate sympathy to her. There is more than one side to every story though. She is no hero for what she did. Sorry. And that's exactly what she will be built into. Next we'll have all the womens advocate groups all over the media comparing her to every other abused woman on earth. Based on one 5 minute tape SHE made.

Actually, I'm basing my opinion of Mel on his bizarre behavior on tapes. There's no explaining away such bizarre and frightening behavior. He is a sick individual mentally. He has stated in interviews that in the 90s he was a morally and spiritually bankrupt individual and an alcoholic. This decade isn't looking much better for him. He has serious problems and needs to address them. Many people would never have believe OJ Simpson was capable of murder until it happened. Mel sounded on the edge of doing something on one of these tapes. When a woman is hit in the face, and he admits it, like he did on the tape, I don't sit on here and judge or question why was she holding the baby, like you stated. I don't the blame the victim when they are hit by a man.

Past all of that, I don't think she is some longtime victim. His behavior escalated and she is getting out, unlike women who are beaten down emotionally and stay in. Part of her reason for taping was probably to prove his abuse and, I don't now, part may be for negotiations. It's been stated he offered her 20 million but to have have custody eventually 50 percent of the time and she doesn't believe he should have the child that amount of time and turned it down. From what I heard, I wouldn't want my child in his care and custody either fifty percent of the time for no amount of money. She absolutely may turn out to have her own issues regarding playing hardball re financial. I never said she was a saint or that her behavior afterwards might not be so great. But that never colors, for me, that this man's rage is inexcusable and bizarre and his racist tendencies are strange. He needs help. The older he gets the worse he gets. He told her he left his wife because he had no spiritual common ground with her, or whatever he said. Wow. He's the one that needs spiritual help and medical.

Shut the fuck up already,,, regardless of whats going on between the two of them, dont you fucking dare to bring the kid in middle of this with your "I wouldnt want my child in his care and custody" bullshit.....
He is and has been an excellent father,,,, He raised 1 daughter and 6 sons without any problems and has been a great father to them all.....typical women like you, who would try to give him a totally bad reputation on all levels just cause of the way he has treated the hoebag. Get a clue already .... The kid would be in MUCH BETTER CARE with Mel than this fame-hungry bitch !