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Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
I'm sure he's referring to his severe drug abuse ...
Don wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
I'm sure he's referring to his severe drug abuse ...
Yes, I guess you are right. I've never thought of Peter as a really creative influence at all in the band, so I didn't think beyond his drug use, how he could do anything to implode the band or even go the opposite way and give it greater acclaim. He was always like Ringo Starr or Ross Valory in my mind, just a nondescript cog in the machine.
Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
I'm sure he's referring to his severe drug abuse ...
Yes, I guess you are right. I've never thought of Peter as a really creative influence at all in the band, so I didn't think beyond his drug use, how he could do anything to implode the band or even go the opposite way and give it greater acclaim. He was always like Ringo Starr or Ross Valory in my mind, just a nondescript cog in the machine.
Co~writter (he wrote the melody) for Beth ...their highest charting single!!
Not a band favorite, but a fan favorite, for sure!!
I will always love him for singing my anthem song ...![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE
Yep, and they were originally going to shortenDon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
I'm sure he's referring to his severe drug abuse ...
Yes, I guess you are right. I've never thought of Peter as a really creative influence at all in the band, so I didn't think beyond his drug use, how he could do anything to implode the band or even go the opposite way and give it greater acclaim. He was always like Ringo Starr or Ross Valory in my mind, just a nondescript cog in the machine.
Co~writter (he wrote the melody) for Beth ...their highest charting single!!
Not a band favorite, but a fan favorite, for sure!!
I will always love him for singing my anthem song ...![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE
Actually Beth was original "Becky" ( an unfinished project from Peter's time in the band Chelsea and referred to his band mate's wife not his own) who used to call every 15 minutes asking when her hubby would be coming home. Peter did help with the melody though as you said and the song was reborn again as Beth.
Don wrote:"There's no tapes. There's no background singers backstage. There's no click tracks. It's important for the kids to see that whatever you see on stage is real. We want to spread this. I'm insulted by any act that goes up there with dancers and tapes. It's insulting."
Why am I thinking that KISS has used BGV tapes and has used a click track somewhere in their past?
Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
I'm sure he's referring to his severe drug abuse ...
Yes, I guess you are right. I've never thought of Peter as a really creative influence at all in the band, so I didn't think beyond his drug use, how he could do anything to implode the band or even go the opposite way and give it greater acclaim. He was always like Ringo Starr or Ross Valory in my mind, just a nondescript cog in the machine.
Cowritter (he wrote the melody) for Beth ...their highest charting single!!
Not a band favorite, but a fan favorite, for sure!!
I will always love him for singing my anthem song ...![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE
My fav ...he does a good Hard Luck Woman, too!!Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Don wrote:"We still have a tug of the heart...Peter and Ace [Frehley] are beloved, as well they should be for the beginning, for helping launch the band. But it's important to note that with them in the band today, KISS wouldn't be around."
What's he saying here? I understand the issues with Ace but is he implying that Peter was some kind of cancer to the group?
I'm sure he's referring to his severe drug abuse ...
Yes, I guess you are right. I've never thought of Peter as a really creative influence at all in the band, so I didn't think beyond his drug use, how he could do anything to implode the band or even go the opposite way and give it greater acclaim. He was always like Ringo Starr or Ross Valory in my mind, just a nondescript cog in the machine.
Cowritter (he wrote the melody) for Beth ...their highest charting single!!
Not a band favorite, but a fan favorite, for sure!!
I will always love him for singing my anthem song ...![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE
I think Paul Stanley stands head and shoulders over all the other members of Kiss past or present. Certainly in terms of musical talent .
Michigan Girl wrote:I will always love him for singing my anthem song ...![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE
awwww ...tear!! My girls saw them at that time, as well ...I was out of town atPelata wrote:Took my son to see KISS in 2004 when he was 11...he loved it! I saw LOTS of younger kids there too...most of them in makeup. Paul even gave a little speech about "I see all you little kids out there...we love you! We were here for your parents, we were here for your grandparents, and we'll be here for YOU too!!"
It was kinda cool...
Ehwmatt wrote:Don't be hatin on my boy Ringo, I even named my cat after him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CONdOuNIv80
Michigan Girl wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Don't be hatin on my boy Ringo, I even named my cat after him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CONdOuNIv80
I love this song, the lyrics are incredible ...is there a hidden message here?!?!
Yes, but only because my mom has Time Takes Time and I've awakened to it a fewEhwmatt wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Don't be hatin on my boy Ringo, I even named my cat after him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CONdOuNIv80
I love this song, the lyrics are incredible ...is there a hidden message here?!?!
Did you know the tune before this?
I remember being a real little kid watching the 92 All Starr Band VHS tape with my dad in our family room on our brand new home theater system and lovin this tune.
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