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Postby steveo777 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:34 am

Aaron wrote:I'm with Scarab on this one. I've seen everyone mentioned in this thread live. Hugo is my favorite of the bunch because:

1. He can rock harder than Journey, or at least harder than they have since 83
2. His song writing capability as good as anyone's IMO, he's demonstrated this with 6? CD's
3. His voice has the range and emotion that sets himself apart from the pack
4. Every fucking note he sings is NOT vibrato :D

Hugo takes a lot of shite here due to his voice being "thin", he looks too much like Perry, blah blah. I seen him with Valentine in Long Island last year and they were awesome. His vocals were better than Arnel's before Journey went a half step down. I'm still trying to figure out how Journey can go half step down for a replacement. Is Schon tuning to drop D next? The songs loose their positive vibe a half step down ... but I digress.

I've seen them all and Hugo is the best and should be leading Journey today. I think Hugo would apply too much pressure to Friga and Schon which is the most likely reason he's not in Journey. He doesn't need Frig and Fro to write good music. Even Andrew agreed that the S/T Hugo CD was what that turd TBF should have been.


Only one problem. Neal can't stand Hugo, so has been and is zero possibility of him fronting Journey. Arnel emulates SP's sound on the classics because that's what the band pays him to do. Hugo is a Perry wanna be with nowhere near Perry's prowess.
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Postby Pelata » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:59 am

Hugo is the Las Vegas impersonator version of SP...he should do Journey-grams or something...
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Postby Since 78 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:01 am

Pelata wrote:Hugo is the Las Vegas impersonator version of SP...he should do Journey-grams or something...


+1 Creepy is the best description.
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Postby ScarabGator » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:03 am

you guys are freakin nuts. Hugo is the 2nd coming of Perry. And he'd kick ARNEL's ass.
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Postby Melissa » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:24 am

I like him in Valentine, my fav V song is "You'll Always Have Me"
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Postby RobbieG » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:04 pm

Jeremey wrote:
RobbieG wrote:Same applies to Jeremey, the guy really tries to be Perry on every song. I rather have Hugo like I said he blows Jeremey away hands down. Plus Hugo's new band is amazing.


Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I'm really trying to wrap my head around the idea of me trying to be more like Perry than Hugo does...

Anyway, I know you've PM'd me twice about coming to shows and then couldn't make it, but where are the numerous other places you've seen Frontiers? I'm not doubting, I'm just genuinely curious....


Jeremey I have seen you play in Grand Rapids, Huntsville, & 2 times in Detroit (State Theatre & New York New York in Chesterfield Twp outside of Detroit) I missed the Magic Bag show in Ferndale when I was in Detroit. I will be in Detroit visiting the in laws this week and will miss you at Sterling Fest this Friday, instead I will be going to downtown Detroit to see Gregg Rolie. :D
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:19 pm

I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.
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Postby RobbieG » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:22 pm

Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.


How is hell Dickno??? That is your mailing address. :lol: Readmit yourself back to rehab so you can straighten out.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:25 pm

RobbieG wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.


How is hell Dickno??? That is your mailing address. :lol: Readmit yourself back to rehab so you can straighten out.


I know who you are you fuckin bastard. I will KILL you if I ever see you.
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Postby RobbieG » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:29 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.


How is hell Dickno??? That is your mailing address. :lol: Readmit yourself back to rehab so you can straighten out.


I know who you are you fuckin bastard. I will KILL you if I ever see you.


Dickno, Dickno you are the only fuckin bastard here on MR. Will you be able to stand when you see me??? Your a drunk Dickno. :lol: :lol: Again go back to rehab. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:36 pm

RobbieG wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.


How is hell Dickno??? That is your mailing address. :lol: Readmit yourself back to rehab so you can straighten out.


I know who you are you fuckin bastard. I will KILL you if I ever see you.


Dickno, Dickno you are the only fuckin bastard here on MR. Will you be able to stand when you see me??? Your a drunk Dickno. :lol: :lol: Again go back to rehab. :lol: :lol:


Be prepared asshole.
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Postby RobbieG » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:40 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.


How is hell Dickno??? That is your mailing address. :lol: Readmit yourself back to rehab so you can straighten out.


I know who you are you fuckin bastard. I will KILL you if I ever see you.


Dickno, Dickno you are the only fuckin bastard here on MR. Will you be able to stand when you see me??? Your a drunk Dickno. :lol: :lol: Again go back to rehab. :lol: :lol:


Be prepared asshole.


Dickno you really need some help. Yes I will be prepared to laugh at your drunken ass.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:40 pm

Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.


Ok, marked. You, Deano, started this one. What's up with flinging shit at him all the time? :?
No matter how I feel about anybody here, I don't run around telling people I hate them and wish them to taste their own blood, get run over
by trains and that kind of shit. That's childish dude. Get pissed at me, but it is. I think this is just because he apparently saw
you make a drunken ass out of yourself once and it drives you nuts that you can't figure out who he is.

Or....maybe you two are each other's alter egos on the forums and do this shit to entertain everyone. :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:57 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.


Ok, marked. You, Deano, started this one. What's up with flinging shit at him all the time? :?
No matter how I feel about anybody here, I don't run around telling people I hate them and wish them to taste their own blood, get run over
by trains and that kind of shit. That's childish dude. Get pissed at me, but it is. I think this is just because he apparently saw
you make a drunken ass out of yourself once and it drives you nuts that you can't figure out who he is.

Or....maybe you two are each other's alter egos on the forums and do this shit to entertain everyone. :lol:


Go sit on a splintered plunger handle steve.

I HATE that fucker.
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Postby RobbieG » Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:05 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.


Ok, marked. You, Deano, started this one. What's up with flinging shit at him all the time? :?
No matter how I feel about anybody here, I don't run around telling people I hate them and wish them to taste their own blood, get run over
by trains and that kind of shit. That's childish dude. Get pissed at me, but it is. I think this is just because he apparently saw
you make a drunken ass out of yourself once and it drives you nuts that you can't figure out who he is.

Or....maybe you two are each other's alter egos on the forums and do this shit to entertain everyone. :lol:


Go sit on a splintered plunger handle steve.

I HATE that fucker.




:roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: pain medication and alcohol do not mix Dickno. http://www.drugrehabcenter.com/testwww/ ... w=alcolhol
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Postby Rick » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:00 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.


Ok, marked. You, Deano, started this one.


Yeah, maybe this ONE. From my observations, Robbie is always antagonizing Dean. It has been going on a long time too. He trolls his posts and knows how to push his buttons. Not sure why or where it started, I'm just sharing what I've seen. If anyone, except Robbie, cares share their own observations on the matter, in fairness to both, please do.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:12 pm

Rick wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.


Ok, marked. You, Deano, started this one.


Yeah, maybe this ONE. From my observations, Robbie is always antagonizing Dean. It has been going on a long time too. He trolls his posts and knows how to push his buttons. Not sure why or where it started, I'm just sharing what I've seen. If anyone, except Robbie, cares share their own observations on the matter, in fairness to both, please do.


And Dean is the only one I have ever seen Robbie get ornery with. What's up with that? Look around...he's perfectly civil to everyone else, unless I missed something somewhere. ????? So they know each other off these boards, I think....at least one of 'em does. :wink:
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Postby Pelata » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:21 pm

ScarabGator wrote:you guys are freakin nuts. Hugo is the 2nd coming of Perry. And he'd kick ARNEL's ass.


He couldn't kick Arnel's ass with someone else's foot... :lol:

I'm on record as NOT being an Arnel fan, and I'm still not, but when it comes to vocal power, Arnel mops the floor w/ Mr. Hugo.

That said, I have enjoyed some of Hugo's solo material...but come on. Over time I've seen him for what he is...he's an actor...I'm telling you, he could work the Vegas circuit with all the Cher and Madonna impersonators. Hire him to take flowers and candy to your girlfriend on her birthday and sing "Open Arms" in front of the whole office.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:27 pm

Saint John wrote:
S2M wrote:
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S2M wrote:Amazing...the man who can belt SP better than any mentioned so far....even Jeremey.

And NEVER. Gets mentioned...JASON KELTY.


I made a trek to Ohio just to see him with Ehwmatt 2 and a half years ago. He hadn't done Journey in over a decade and I believe we saw one of his first shows back. That said, the dude had some rust, but it didn't take me long to figure out that with some practice the guy was pretty fucking special. Sucks that the place had a horrible soundman. :evil: :x You should hear Kelty sing Runaway by Bon Jovi. It wasn't even fucking fair, dude. 8)


Dan...obviously you are more familiar with him and his stuff than I....if by any chance you know of any sound clips, or mp3s that I could check out, I would appreciate it...I heard a couple a few years ago...thanks.


Unfortunately, I don't think he likes being recorded or put on youtube because I couldn't find one clip when I searched a couple of months ago. And, sadly, I think he quit the cover band gig and went back to Christian music. However, I asked him point blank, "If you were offered the Journey gig would you take it?" and he responded "How do you say no to that?" :wink: 8)


You remember anything you asked him that night?

I think you know that you were more impressed than me. I thought he was very good, but too thin vocally, much like Hugo
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:42 am

RobbieG wrote:
Jeremey I have seen you play in Grand Rapids, Huntsville, & 2 times in Detroit (State Theatre & New York New York in Chesterfield Twp outside of Detroit) I missed the Magic Bag show in Ferndale when I was in Detroit. I will be in Detroit visiting the in laws this week and will miss you at Sterling Fest this Friday, instead I will be going to downtown Detroit to see Gregg Rolie. :D


Cool, next time please introduce yourself! As for the times you mentioned, well, I won't make excuses but I've had one good show in MI, and that was Magic Bag...LOL...In fact, at The State Theatre gig, our entire band met for the first time about 5 hours before the gig. As far as your observations that Hugo mops the floor with me, and that I try too hard to be Steve Perry (versus Hugo?), I think that's a matter of taste that nothing is going to change, LOL! Stay cool, bro and next time don't be such a stranger, especially since you make it to so many shows!
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:45 am

Jeremey wrote:As far as your observations that Hugo mops the floor with me, and that I try too hard to be Steve Perry (versus Hugo?),


I laughed at that too. :lol:
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:49 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:As far as your observations that Hugo mops the floor with me, and that I try too hard to be Steve Perry (versus Hugo?),


I laughed at that too. :lol:


Since we're on the subject, and I've really stopped caring about commenting about my singing here or anywhere else, but I want to mention in passing that out of Arnel, Hugo, and Jason Kelty, I believe that I sound the LEAST like Steve Perry. I personally think there's other things to my vocal "apparatus" that draw comparisons to Perry, but if you listen to YouTubes of me, Perry, Hugo, or the recording of Kelty from 1996, I don't believe anyone would think I "sound" more like Perry than any of those dudes. I may have my head up my own ass, but that's just my .02... :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:57 am

Jeremey wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:As far as your observations that Hugo mops the floor with me, and that I try too hard to be Steve Perry (versus Hugo?),


I laughed at that too. :lol:


Since we're on the subject, and I've really stopped caring about commenting about my singing here or anywhere else, but I want to mention in passing that out of Arnel, Hugo, and Jason Kelty, I believe that I sound the LEAST like Steve Perry. I personally think there's other things to my vocal "apparatus" that draw comparisons to Perry, but if you listen to YouTubes of me, Perry, Hugo, or the recording of Kelty from 1996, I don't believe anyone would think I "sound" more like Perry than any of those dudes. I may have my head up my own ass, but that's just my .02... :lol:


Ya sound more like him than Arnel does. :shock:

But you know what, screw all these stupid comparisons. You're doing what you're doing, and doing a damn fine job at it. Sounding "like Perry!" is about the last thing anyone with their head screwed on straight should care about. There was one Steve Perry, there won't be another, so who sounds more like him is a dopey argument. Those other guys are great singers too. Those with enough vocal talent to be able to sing that material should be proud of that fact alone. And the rest of us should just shut the fuck up and enjoy it. And I may have my head up my own ass, but that's my .02.
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Postby portland » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:01 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:As far as your observations that Hugo mops the floor with me, and that I try too hard to be Steve Perry (versus Hugo?),


I laughed at that too. :lol:


Since we're on the subject, and I've really stopped caring about commenting about my singing here or anywhere else, but I want to mention in passing that out of Arnel, Hugo, and Jason Kelty, I believe that I sound the LEAST like Steve Perry. I personally think there's other things to my vocal "apparatus" that draw comparisons to Perry, but if you listen to YouTubes of me, Perry, Hugo, or the recording of Kelty from 1996, I don't believe anyone would think I "sound" more like Perry than any of those dudes. I may have my head up my own ass, but that's just my .02... :lol:


Ya sound more like him than Arnel does. :shock:

But you know what, screw all these stupid comparisons. You're doing what you're doing, and doing a damn fine job at it. Sounding "like Perry!" is about the last thing anyone with their head screwed on straight should care about. There was one Steve Perry, there won't be another, so who sounds more like him is a dopey argument. Those other guys are great singers too. Those with enough vocal talent to be able to sing that material should be proud of that fact alone. And the rest of us should just shut the fuck up and enjoy it. And I may have my head up my own ass, but that's my .02.



Wow.....nice post Kim!!

I as well can be accused of the head up my ass thing..... :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:01 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:But you know what, screw all these stupid comparisons. You're doing what you're doing, and doing a damn fine job at it. Sounding "like Perry!" is about the last thing anyone with their head screwed on straight should care about. There was one Steve Perry, there won't be another, so who sounds more like him is a dopey argument. Those other guys are great singers too. Those with enough vocal talent to be able to sing that material should be proud of that fact alone. And the rest of us should just shut the fuck up and enjoy it. And I may have my head up my own ass, but that's my .02.


:wink:

Couldn't have said it better myself, BJG!
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Postby Andrew » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:39 am

Rick wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I hope you blow out a right front tire and veer off an overpass onto some railroad tracks and survive.....then get run over by a fucking train you spineless cocksucker. Enjoy Hell asshole.
I fucking hate you.


Ok, marked. You, Deano, started this one.


Yeah, maybe this ONE. From my observations, Robbie is always antagonizing Dean. It has been going on a long time too. He trolls his posts and knows how to push his buttons.


And then comes bitching to me when it all goes wrong. :roll:
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