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Lula wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I sure hope we've seen the last of this douchebag, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Smart money's on him retiring from training camp, which he already did last year.
why "douchebag?" isn't he one of the best to play? isn't he a stand up guy? just asking.
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WalkInMyShoes wrote:He certainly doesn't need the money - it can't be about the money. I would have alot more respect for him if he said, OK, I'll come back if you give that extra $7 million to this community or that charity that needs it or start a scholarship or something!!!
YoungJRNY wrote:Now it's being said that Minny is going to offer him 20 million in guaranteed money to play for one more season and honor his contract. Givin that amount of money thrown at him and judging by how the Vikings want him in the worst way possible, and to top it off, the Super Bowl team he has around him, Favre would be crazy not to take up this kind of offer not to return. Out of all people, we know if he is indeed going to retire, he will come back week 4 and show up in the Vikings locker room, not wanting to say what if. The dude has to stay and played banged up most of his career, I'm sure he can have one last run at it judging by his season in '09.
lights1961 wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:Now it's being said that Minny is going to offer him 20 million in guaranteed money to play for one more season and honor his contract. Givin that amount of money thrown at him and judging by how the Vikings want him in the worst way possible, and to top it off, the Super Bowl team he has around him, Favre would be crazy not to take up this kind of offer not to return. Out of all people, we know if he is indeed going to retire, he will come back week 4 and show up in the Vikings locker room, not wanting to say what if. The dude has to stay and played banged up most of his career, I'm sure he can have one last run at it judging by his season in '09.
for Brett its not about the money any more... its about the power he has... and the attention he wants... I Still say he stays retired...
I dont know, something about THIS TIME... HIS ANKLE... ETC...
WalkInMyShoes wrote:"This is to confirm that I did have a procedure to remove some scar tissue and bone spurs from my ankle which had been bothering me for a period of time," Favre said on his website.
Isn't it kind of weird that he would have waited until May 21 to have this taken care of, if it was scar tissue and bone spurs? That is not an acute injury, it's chronic. Their season ended in January.
Rockindeano wrote:They just interviewed Slinger in his 18 wheeler. Thing was so loud you couldn't hardly hear what he was saying. Dude is trolling around hauling livestock or something, maybe he is driving a cement mixer around Hattiesburg, I don't know. He was on the field for the High School practice and was moving just fine. Oh he's coming back, you can bet your ass he is.
lights1961 wrote:Rockindeano wrote:They just interviewed Slinger in his 18 wheeler. Thing was so loud you couldn't hardly hear what he was saying. Dude is trolling around hauling livestock or something, maybe he is driving a cement mixer around Hattiesburg, I don't know. He was on the field for the High School practice and was moving just fine. Oh he's coming back, you can bet your ass he is.
HE SHOULD BE IN CAMP throwing to his TEAMATES... if he is going to play--- I still dont buy it that he is coming back... maybe its stupid thinking on my part... I keep going back to his ankle...
lights1961 wrote:Rockindeano wrote:They just interviewed Slinger in his 18 wheeler. Thing was so loud you couldn't hardly hear what he was saying. Dude is trolling around hauling livestock or something, maybe he is driving a cement mixer around Hattiesburg, I don't know. He was on the field for the High School practice and was moving just fine. Oh he's coming back, you can bet your ass he is.
HE SHOULD BE IN CAMP throwing to his TEAMATES... if he is going to play--- I still dont buy it that he is coming back... maybe its stupid thinking on my part... I keep going back to his ankle...
RedWingFan wrote:Lula wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I sure hope we've seen the last of this douchebag, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Smart money's on him retiring from training camp, which he already did last year.
why "douchebag?" isn't he one of the best to play? isn't he a stand up guy? just asking.
"A stand up guy?" Hardly. This is how it went down Lula. And as you read this, put yourself in his Packers teammates position.
Rumours surface that Favre is upset with the Packers management because they didn't pursue a trade with the Raiders for WR Randy Moss.
A year or so later Favre announces his "retirement" in a press conference along w/ Packers management where he cries like a baby.
A number of weeks later after the Pack talk about how excited they are to move on with the Aaron Rodgers era, Favre starts talking about having an itch to play again. Rumours surface that Favre has been in contact with Offensive coaching staff of the Vikings and wants to play there, a division rival of the Packers
The Packers get wind of this and call Favre and offer to fly out to hold another presser to announce he was coming back to the team. Favre, not getting the reaction he wanted, balks and tells the club. "It was just a passing feeling, I'm going to stay retired."
Favre waits until after the NFL draft where the Pack draft 2 QB's to announce that he indeed wants to play again, asking the Packers for his release.
The Packers say, hell no are we letting you go for nothing to go to a division rival.
Favre cries like a little bitch to the media about how he's not wanted in Green Bay. The club tells him, there will be an open competition for the QB spot at training camp. Best QB gets the job, and they invite him to the facility. Favre flies out bags in hand but doesn't enter the facility still crying about not being wanted.
Favre is NOT a stand up guy. I would have respected him and maybe agreed with him if he had come right out and said, "I've put in umpteen years with the team and I'm asking them for my release. I feel I've earned it."
But he didn't do that. He tried to paint the Packers as the bad guys and forcing him out. He did it to protect his legacy with the people of Green Bay. He plotted this against the Packers and his former teammates who put the pads on and marched out to battle on the field with him. He deliberately hurt the team by waiting until after the draft letting the team waste picks on QB's instead of other need positions.
The guy is a douche, and I have ZERO respect for him. He's been an above average QB for his career who I think has underachieved with the Packers for as good of a squad as they've had over the years and playing in the lousy NFC Central all those years. I loved watching him get pounded against New Orleans and him throwing yet another reckless INT and costing the Vikings a trip to the Super Bowl.
I make a point to root for the Packers and Aaron Rodgers every week because I hate Favre so much. Green Bay is sitting pretty compared to the Vikings.
Brett Favre told ESPN's Ed Werder in Hattiesburg, Miss., on Wednesday that he has not made any decision about returning to play for the Minnesota Vikings this season and says he will play if healthy.
Favre's agent, Bus Cook, said in a statement to the NFL Network on Wednesday that the quarterback has an appointment with Dr. James Andrews next week and will know more at that time. Andrews performed surgery on Favre's ankle in May.
Favre denied sending text messages to Vikings teammates and club officials that might have indicated he had decided to retire.
On Tuesday, Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe said Favre texted his teammates and told them he plans to retire. Shiancoe added he did not receive any direct messages from Favre, but learned of the texts from several teammates.
"Shank, that's why I love him ... all right guys I gotta go," Favre said, when informed of Shiancoe's comments.
Shiancoe said Wednesday he still had not heard from Favre directly and declined further comment.
Favre told ESPN that he has decided to play for Minnesota in 2010 if his surgically repaired ankle heals but said the fact he has not been able to decide his future reflects his level of concern about regaining his health.
He hurt his left ankle in the NFC Championship Game loss to the New Orleans Saints.
Favre responded to a Star Tribune report that the Vikings were prepared to offer him more money for the 2010 season if he would play, insisting that his salary is not a factor in the decision. "It's not about money," he said.
"As far as Brett is concerned, in spite of reports to the contrary, Brett's situation has nothing to do with his contract, but everything to do with his health and ability to contribute to that team and play at a level that he has been accustomed to playing over the years," Cook told the NFL Network.
Favre told ESPN he has a time frame in mind and said he has spoken to the Vikings to make them aware of the approximate date when he will make his decision. He declined to reveal that information to ESPN, however.
"That is up for discussion, but they know and we know, so ..." Favre said.
Favre was at Oak Grove High School in Hattiesburg Wednesday, lightly tossing a football with players in warmups. He then helped as the players went through drills.
Favre has made regular appearances at Oak Grove in the summer for several years, working out with players during informal drills as he prepared for the upcoming season.
According to multiple reports Tuesday, Favre informed the Vikings he would not return to Minnesota for a second season. Favre sent text messages to teammates saying, "This is it," league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
The Star Tribune reported that the Vikings have offered to increase Favre's salary to $16 million guaranteed -- $3 million more than he was scheduled to make this season, plus another $4 million in incentives that could potentially pay Favre $20 million total for the 2010 season.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday during a visit to Ravens camp that he was taking a "wait and hear" approach to the latest twist in the Favre saga.
"We haven't heard from Brett, so we're all reacting to media reports," Goodell said. "So I think I'd wait and hear what Brett has to say."
Goodell said that Favre is "great for our game," but wanted the three-time NFL MVP to make the best decision for himself, not the NFL.
"I think we all love to see him play, but we want him to do what's best for him at the end of the day," Goodell said.
With Favre, of course, nothing is ever necessarily final after 19 NFL seasons. He told the Vikings last year he wouldn't play, but changed his mind and joined them immediately after they broke training camp, with Childress even driving to the airport to pick him up. Camp this year ends on Aug. 12.
Favre has waffled on retiring every summer since 2002. It led to an ugly parting with the Packers that got him traded from Green Bay to the Jets in 2008. After a so-so season in New York, he announced his retirement in early 2009 for the second time, then reconsidered and signed with the Vikings.
He had one of his best seasons last year, with career bests in completion percentage (68.4), quarterback rating (107.2) and fewest interceptions (7), while throwing for 33 TDs and 4,202 yards to lead the Vikings to an NFC North title.
slucero wrote:every year he loses a step.. one of these games he's gonna get "Joe Thiesman'd"
mikemarrs wrote:i think he will be back.he has another month to let the preseason go by and heal his ankle and then he will announce he is healed and ready to play in 2010.his problem right now is he doesn't want the headache of dealing with training camp and all these exhibition games.
YoungJRNY wrote:mikemarrs wrote:i think he will be back.he has another month to let the preseason go by and heal his ankle and then he will announce he is healed and ready to play in 2010.his problem right now is he doesn't want the headache of dealing with training camp and all these exhibition games.
Training Camp is a rookies/young athletes league. To a certain extent, camp is to get down the terminology and get up to the speed of the game for the veterans who have been at it for years upon years at a time. You have off season workouts, OTA's as well as minicamps. Training Camp is to get the pads poppin and get back in the groove of timing and mainly for the young lads to learn and improve under veteran leadership.
Favre has done 20 years of this. He can teach the offense he runs in 4 different languages. He proved he can skip training camp and be as sharp as ever on the drop of a dime.
Veterans like Hines Ward also gets the treatment (to an extent) of Favre. Same as James Farrior, Casey Hampton, Troy or any other veterans who are givin days off to rest and to heal up. Of course, they practice and go through the the dog days of camp, but the head coach of all teams lend a hand to the worthy vets who proved themselves and are givin days off and it's MUCH deserved and nothing wrong with it.
It's already known that as long as Favre plays, he will not attend training camp any longer and givin the performance he did last season, the Vikes are at the point to even tell him to stay home until he's 100%.
conversationpc wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:mikemarrs wrote:i think he will be back.he has another month to let the preseason go by and heal his ankle and then he will announce he is healed and ready to play in 2010.his problem right now is he doesn't want the headache of dealing with training camp and all these exhibition games.
Training Camp is a rookies/young athletes league. To a certain extent, camp is to get down the terminology and get up to the speed of the game for the veterans who have been at it for years upon years at a time. You have off season workouts, OTA's as well as minicamps. Training Camp is to get the pads poppin and get back in the groove of timing and mainly for the young lads to learn and improve under veteran leadership.
Favre has done 20 years of this. He can teach the offense he runs in 4 different languages. He proved he can skip training camp and be as sharp as ever on the drop of a dime.
Veterans like Hines Ward also gets the treatment (to an extent) of Favre. Same as James Farrior, Casey Hampton, Troy or any other veterans who are givin days off to rest and to heal up. Of course, they practice and go through the the dog days of camp, but the head coach of all teams lend a hand to the worthy vets who proved themselves and are givin days off and it's MUCH deserved and nothing wrong with it.
It's already known that as long as Favre plays, he will not attend training camp any longer and givin the performance he did last season, the Vikes are at the point to even tell him to stay home until he's 100%.
Training camp is also for the veterans to work their rust off and bond with guys they haven't seen in the offseason. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate and a team member was skipping the training camp while everyone else busted their asses.
Everett wrote:conversationpc wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:mikemarrs wrote:i think he will be back.he has another month to let the preseason go by and heal his ankle and then he will announce he is healed and ready to play in 2010.his problem right now is he doesn't want the headache of dealing with training camp and all these exhibition games.
Training Camp is a rookies/young athletes league. To a certain extent, camp is to get down the terminology and get up to the speed of the game for the veterans who have been at it for years upon years at a time. You have off season workouts, OTA's as well as minicamps. Training Camp is to get the pads poppin and get back in the groove of timing and mainly for the young lads to learn and improve under veteran leadership.
Favre has done 20 years of this. He can teach the offense he runs in 4 different languages. He proved he can skip training camp and be as sharp as ever on the drop of a dime.
Veterans like Hines Ward also gets the treatment (to an extent) of Favre. Same as James Farrior, Casey Hampton, Troy or any other veterans who are givin days off to rest and to heal up. Of course, they practice and go through the the dog days of camp, but the head coach of all teams lend a hand to the worthy vets who proved themselves and are givin days off and it's MUCH deserved and nothing wrong with it.
It's already known that as long as Favre plays, he will not attend training camp any longer and givin the performance he did last season, the Vikes are at the point to even tell him to stay home until he's 100%.
Training camp is also for the veterans to work their rust off and bond with guys they haven't seen in the offseason. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate and a team member was skipping the training camp while everyone else busted their asses.
That's favre for ya
lights1961 wrote:Everett wrote:conversationpc wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:mikemarrs wrote:i think he will be back.he has another month to let the preseason go by and heal his ankle and then he will announce he is healed and ready to play in 2010.his problem right now is he doesn't want the headache of dealing with training camp and all these exhibition games.
Training Camp is a rookies/young athletes league. To a certain extent, camp is to get down the terminology and get up to the speed of the game for the veterans who have been at it for years upon years at a time. You have off season workouts, OTA's as well as minicamps. Training Camp is to get the pads poppin and get back in the groove of timing and mainly for the young lads to learn and improve under veteran leadership.
Favre has done 20 years of this. He can teach the offense he runs in 4 different languages. He proved he can skip training camp and be as sharp as ever on the drop of a dime.
Veterans like Hines Ward also gets the treatment (to an extent) of Favre. Same as James Farrior, Casey Hampton, Troy or any other veterans who are givin days off to rest and to heal up. Of course, they practice and go through the the dog days of camp, but the head coach of all teams lend a hand to the worthy vets who proved themselves and are givin days off and it's MUCH deserved and nothing wrong with it.
It's already known that as long as Favre plays, he will not attend training camp any longer and givin the performance he did last season, the Vikes are at the point to even tell him to stay home until he's 100%.
Training camp is also for the veterans to work their rust off and bond with guys they haven't seen in the offseason. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate and a team member was skipping the training camp while everyone else busted their asses.
That's favre for ya
I AM SOOO HAPPY the PACK doesnt have to worry about such stuff anymore...
Rick
conversationpc wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:mikemarrs wrote:i think he will be back.he has another month to let the preseason go by and heal his ankle and then he will announce he is healed and ready to play in 2010.his problem right now is he doesn't want the headache of dealing with training camp and all these exhibition games.
Training Camp is a rookies/young athletes league. To a certain extent, camp is to get down the terminology and get up to the speed of the game for the veterans who have been at it for years upon years at a time. You have off season workouts, OTA's as well as minicamps. Training Camp is to get the pads poppin and get back in the groove of timing and mainly for the young lads to learn and improve under veteran leadership.
Favre has done 20 years of this. He can teach the offense he runs in 4 different languages. He proved he can skip training camp and be as sharp as ever on the drop of a dime.
Veterans like Hines Ward also gets the treatment (to an extent) of Favre. Same as James Farrior, Casey Hampton, Troy or any other veterans who are givin days off to rest and to heal up. Of course, they practice and go through the the dog days of camp, but the head coach of all teams lend a hand to the worthy vets who proved themselves and are givin days off and it's MUCH deserved and nothing wrong with it.
It's already known that as long as Favre plays, he will not attend training camp any longer and givin the performance he did last season, the Vikes are at the point to even tell him to stay home until he's 100%.
Training camp is also for the veterans to work their rust off and bond with guys they haven't seen in the offseason. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate and a team member was skipping the training camp while everyone else busted their asses.
Everett wrote:brett put on an ice pack take a shitload of vicodin and call me in the morning
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