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Postby Melissa » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:38 am

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conversationpc wrote:I don't get sick that often but my blood pressure is moderately high. I'm SO looking forward now to waking up feeling refreshed instead of feeling like rolling back over and going to sleep again for a few hours. I always feel like I have what I call "foggy brain syndrome" for a couple of hours or so after I wake up.


Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


Yes! That does work wonders!
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:01 am

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conversationpc wrote:I don't get sick that often but my blood pressure is moderately high. I'm SO looking forward now to waking up feeling refreshed instead of feeling like rolling back over and going to sleep again for a few hours. I always feel like I have what I call "foggy brain syndrome" for a couple of hours or so after I wake up.


Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


The "foggy brain syndrome" is from not having enough oxygen at night. That should take care of itself if I can get used to using the BiPAP machine.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:24 am

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Rhiannon wrote:Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


Yes! That does work wonders!


It's amazing how most of our health snags are simple nutritional deficiencies. My friend and I both had that problem for as long as we could remember, she's in PA school now and told me she started taking that among other supplements for other things and raved about the benefits. So I've started taking it as well and I just love it. Waking up and not feeling drunk is awesome!

conversationpc wrote:The "foggy brain syndrome" is from not having enough oxygen at night. That should take care of itself if I can get used to using the BiPAP machine.


I understand that as well, I've known several people who've had apnea. But if you're going to start reworking yourself to naturally correct the problem, I'm telling you... just try it. (Along with the BiPAP, of course. And then later once you no longer need it.)
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Postby Voyager » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:48 am

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Rhiannon wrote:Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


Yes! That does work wonders!


It's amazing how most of our health snags are simple nutritional deficiencies. My friend and I both had that problem for as long as we could remember, she's in PA school now and told me she started taking that among other supplements for other things and raved about the benefits. So I've started taking it as well and I just love it. Waking up and not feeling drunk is awesome!

conversationpc wrote:The "foggy brain syndrome" is from not having enough oxygen at night. That should take care of itself if I can get used to using the BiPAP machine.


I understand that as well, I've known several people who've had apnea. But if you're going to start reworking yourself to naturally correct the problem, I'm telling you... just try it. (Along with the BiPAP, of course. And then later once you no longer need it.)


Ditto on the B12 supplement. I use a sublingual type that gets into your bloodstream instantly when you put the liquid under your tongue. If I am sitting in front of the computer and I notice myself forgetting things, I can take a dose of B12 and my mind gets sharper within 15 minutes.

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:25 am

Voyager wrote:Ditto on the B12 supplement. I use a sublingual type that gets into your bloodstream instantly when you put the liquid under your tongue. If I am sitting in front of the computer and I notice myself forgetting things, I can take a dose of B12 and my mind gets sharper within 15 minutes.

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If that's true, I might need to start mainlining that stuff. :lol:
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Postby Voyager » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:40 am

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Voyager wrote:Ditto on the B12 supplement. I use a sublingual type that gets into your bloodstream instantly when you put the liquid under your tongue. If I am sitting in front of the computer and I notice myself forgetting things, I can take a dose of B12 and my mind gets sharper within 15 minutes.

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If that's true, I might need to start mainlining that stuff. :lol:


What did you think of that Puresleep mouthpiece I mentioned? It's worth a try. I didn't try it until I bought the CPAP and I didn't care for it. The mouthpiece is a little bit of a hassle, but nowhere near as big of a hassle as the CPAP.

If your brain fog is bad I would do something as soon as possible. The B12 is a huge help but won't make up for losing oxygen at night. The mouthpiece works for me, and it's based on the same type of sleep apnea dental appliance that your dentist will sell you for a grand or more.

P.S. - They do mainline people with B12 at the emergency ward when they come in complaining of amnesia.

Try it for yourself and see: http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Bounty-Vi ... B001G7QPC8

Once we get your brain functioning better and thinking correctly, I think we might be able to convert you to become a liberal.

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Postby parfait » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:50 am

The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.
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Postby Voyager » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:52 am

parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


True, but bad habits are hard to break. We are a processed society. So, take your vitamin supplements and your fiber, and be prepared to wear your Depends when you hit 70 - lol!

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Postby parfait » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:55 am

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parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


True, but bad habits are hard to break. We are a processed society. So, take your vitamin supplements and your fiber, and be prepared to wear your Depends when you hit 70 - lol!

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I know, man. No one said to start a new lifestyle is easy :)
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Postby Voyager » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:25 am

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Voyager wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


True, but bad habits are hard to break. We are a processed society. So, take your vitamin supplements and your fiber, and be prepared to wear your Depends when you hit 70 - lol!

:lol:


I know, man. No one said to start a new lifestyle is easy :)


I'm with you all the way. I asked my ENT why he doesn't promote diet and exercise changes, and he replied that most people simply won't do it - so he just goes ahead with treating the consequences of their behavior. What can I say... I am guilty as charged. I need to get off my ass more often. It's a modern day epidemic - especially with the advent of the Internet. Yesterday I rode five miles on my bike, and I am headed out again now to do the same!

Here's the answer: Every day at 7:00pm we all login to this thread, put on some music, and mimic the aerobic dancing of my avatar for 30 minutes.

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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:44 am

parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Oh yeah, sure crepes and cheese goo... people in glass countries shouldn't throw calories. :P

I mean. That's true. But America loves her some pills. :D
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:45 am

Rhiannon wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Oh yeah, sure crepes and cheese goo... people in glass countries shouldn't throw calories. :P

I mean. That's true. But America loves her some pills. :D
I LOVE crepes and cheese goo!!!!!!! :)
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:17 am

Voyager wrote:What did you think of that Puresleep mouthpiece I mentioned? It's worth a try. I didn't try it until I bought the CPAP and I didn't care for it. The mouthpiece is a little bit of a hassle, but nowhere near as big of a hassle as the CPAP.


If I remember correctly, those are for folks with mild sleep apnea. Mine is moderately high to high, so I don't think it's a good solution for me.

If your brain fog is bad I would do something as soon as possible. The B12 is a huge help but won't make up for losing oxygen at night.


I generally feel better after an hour or so (and two cups of coffee at work...). Anyway, I have used my BiPAP machine for a few hours each night the last two nights, which is a MAJOR improvement over the last time.

Once we get your brain functioning better and thinking correctly, I think we might be able to convert you to become a liberal.

:lol:


No chance of that unless I go completely brain dead. :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:19 am

parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.
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Postby Voyager » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:00 am

conversationpc wrote:
Voyager wrote:What did you think of that Puresleep mouthpiece I mentioned? It's worth a try. I didn't try it until I bought the CPAP and I didn't care for it. The mouthpiece is a little bit of a hassle, but nowhere near as big of a hassle as the CPAP.


If I remember correctly, those are for folks with mild sleep apnea. Mine is moderately high to high, so I don't think it's a good solution for me.

If your brain fog is bad I would do something as soon as possible. The B12 is a huge help but won't make up for losing oxygen at night.


I generally feel better after an hour or so (and two cups of coffee at work...). Anyway, I have used my BiPAP machine for a few hours each night the last two nights, which is a MAJOR improvement over the last time.

Once we get your brain functioning better and thinking correctly, I think we might be able to convert you to become a liberal.

:lol:


No chance of that unless I go completely brain dead. :lol:


Got me. :evil: :lol:

Some people use the CPAP and the mouthpiece. That way if your mask falls off, at least you still have an open airway. People have died when the mask falls off. Not to scare you but it does happen.

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:03 am

Voyager wrote:Some people use the CPAP and the mouthpiece. That way if your mask falls off, at least you still have an open airway. People have died when the mask falls off. Not to scare you but it does happen.

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Postby parfait » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:10 am

Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.


Sure, you'll always have the odd cases, but in general will a quality, non processed food coupled with working out, will greatly diminish the probability of said diseases. Again, the sleep devices is just a quick fix to the fact that your body is most likely struggling because of weight problems. :)
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Postby Arianddu » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:22 am

parfait wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.


Sure, you'll always have the odd cases, but in general will a quality, non processed food coupled with working out, will greatly diminish the probability of said diseases. Again, the sleep devices is just a quick fix to the fact that your body is most likely struggling because of weight problems. :)


Except that sleep apnoea can affect metabolism such that you put on weight and have a great deal of difficulty losing it. One of the things I really noticed when my ex started using the CPAP was that without changing his diet or excercise, he dropped about 10k over a month. After that, he went on the Atkins diet, which he had been on before, and the effects were much more noticeable.
According to his mother, he's been a chronic sleep talker and walker since he was 10, and he was a skinny kid and teenager. The first thing that happened when he went on the machine was that he stopped talking in his sleep, and he didn't get up during the night. He's had high blood pressure since he was 18, and has had a weight problem since his early-to-mid twenties. I suspect both those things were caused by the sleep apnoea - he was diagnosed as having a breathing interruption 115 times per hour, which is ridiculously high. His doctor said it effectively meant he'd been getting less than an hour of 'real' sleep per night for 20-30 years or so. Most of his many health issues are linked to the sleep apnoea, and with the CPAP, all of them have been steadily reducing.

Sometimes it's more complicated than 'quit smoking, lose weight, don't drink so much, take an asprin and call me in the morning.'
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Postby Melissa » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:43 pm

parfait wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.


Sure, you'll always have the odd cases, but in general will a quality, non processed food coupled with working out, will greatly diminish the probability of said diseases. Again, the sleep devices is just a quick fix to the fact that your body is most likely struggling because of weight problems. :)


Not always the case though, there are plenty of people who have sleep apnea who are nowhere near overweight. There are other causes.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:46 pm

Melissa wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
conversationpc wrote:I don't get sick that often but my blood pressure is moderately high. I'm SO looking forward now to waking up feeling refreshed instead of feeling like rolling back over and going to sleep again for a few hours. I always feel like I have what I call "foggy brain syndrome" for a couple of hours or so after I wake up.


Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


Yes! That does work wonders!
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:02 am

Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.


Sure, you'll always have the odd cases, but in general will a quality, non processed food coupled with working out, will greatly diminish the probability of said diseases. Again, the sleep devices is just a quick fix to the fact that your body is most likely struggling because of weight problems. :)


Not always the case though, there are plenty of people who have sleep apnea who are nowhere near overweight. There are other causes.


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Postby Arianddu » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:14 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Melissa wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
conversationpc wrote:I don't get sick that often but my blood pressure is moderately high. I'm SO looking forward now to waking up feeling refreshed instead of feeling like rolling back over and going to sleep again for a few hours. I always feel like I have what I call "foggy brain syndrome" for a couple of hours or so after I wake up.


Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


Yes! That does work wonders!


Deano, were you rendered speechless by this?
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:07 am

Voyager wrote:True, but bad habits are hard to break.


So are good ones.
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:39 pm

Babyblue wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.


Sure, you'll always have the odd cases, but in general will a quality, non processed food coupled with working out, will greatly diminish the probability of said diseases. Again, the sleep devices is just a quick fix to the fact that your body is most likely struggling because of weight problems. :)


Not always the case though, there are plenty of people who have sleep apnea who are nowhere near overweight. There are other causes.


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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:42 pm

I swear, I keep thinking this thread title says "CRAP..." :shock: :lol:
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Postby parfait » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:27 pm

Saint John wrote:
Voyager wrote:True, but bad habits are hard to break.


So are good ones.


Eating processed, fatty and or high GI food is fortunately not a good habit :wink:
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:39 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:
Melissa wrote:
parfait wrote:The solution for all things (most of it anyways), is losing weight, working out and eating good, non processed food. Instead of taking supplements; eat better.


Even for people who eat the perfect diet, supplements are still important. I work with an MD who was THE picture of health, ate a great diet, stayed in awesome shape, took care of himself, and guess what? He was diagnosed with pernicious anemia, a bit too late for the irreversible damage on nerve cells... he walks with crutches now (after not being able to walk at all, let alone even stand) and will for the rest of his life. All because of B12 deficiency, despite eating right and taking care of himself.

As for the sleep apnea mentioned, yes, do what you can to stop the effects of that, because it can cause other major problems, especially for your heart.


Sure, you'll always have the odd cases, but in general will a quality, non processed food coupled with working out, will greatly diminish the probability of said diseases. Again, the sleep devices is just a quick fix to the fact that your body is most likely struggling because of weight problems. :)


Not always the case though, there are plenty of people who have sleep apnea who are nowhere near overweight. There are other causes.


So true
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I don't worship him at all.But i sure do love him o wait its his music i love. :lol: :wink: Wait till i see him in Nov.WOOOHOOOO :lol: :wink:
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:41 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:I swear, I keep thinking this thread title says "CRAP..." :shock: :lol:



:lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:42 pm

Arianddu wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Melissa wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
conversationpc wrote:I don't get sick that often but my blood pressure is moderately high. I'm SO looking forward now to waking up feeling refreshed instead of feeling like rolling back over and going to sleep again for a few hours. I always feel like I have what I call "foggy brain syndrome" for a couple of hours or so after I wake up.


Seriously, try a B-12 supplement.


Yes! That does work wonders!


Deano, were you rendered speechless by this?


That was a good one. :wink: :lol:
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