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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:56 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Let's be honest here though Lynn - women tend to be more concerned with their appearance historically. Forget what the paradigm body type of the moment is. That's a fact, jack :lol:

We're not seeing anything different than we have in the past.


Historically it was only found in high society among the wealthy. It wasn't until the advent of TV that this became an actual cultural stigma. And in less than 100 years it's gone to an extreme. I'm talking about the influence on society, not the "beauty du jour".

Anthropologically speaking, women with a rounder figure have instinctually been perceived as "beautiful" because a woman with good proportions of stomach, hip, and thigh fat are the most fertile. That's why men still gravitate towards the hourglass size 10 women. It's subconscious biology.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:56 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:Let's be honest here though Lynn - women tend to be more concerned with their appearance historically. Forget what the paradigm body type of the moment is. That's a fact, jack :lol:

We're not seeing anything different than we have in the past.


Sure women have always been like that. I mean for centuries beauty HAS been something that women strive for or wish they could have when they see other beautiful women. But the fact is, the paradigm of the moment is that a size 4 or 7 is plus size. That did NOT exist when I was a teen. My friends didn't wear size 0's. I don't get what's happening, but something is changing for the worse. It IS different.


Like all other fashion, I'd imagine it's largely cyclical. For the young women and moms with daughters, just make sure you/they don't get into any very unhealthy habits. Nip weird diets and eating shit in the bud early.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:47 am

The media will never stop dictating what/who is too fat, thin, pretty, ugly, old, wrinkley, what's in and what's out. Unfortunately, it's the news/crap that, IMO, sick people crave. I suppose it is up to us to be the balancing act for our
young people. :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:51 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:Let's be honest here though Lynn - women tend to be more concerned with their appearance historically. Forget what the paradigm body type of the moment is. That's a fact, jack :lol:

We're not seeing anything different than we have in the past.


It wasn't until the advent of TV that this became an actual cultural stigma.

I wonder if this had anything to do with the EL.Bee.'s the camera adds ... :?
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Postby Behshad » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:06 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:Let's be honest here though Lynn - women tend to be more concerned with their appearance historically. Forget what the paradigm body type of the moment is. That's a fact, jack :lol:

We're not seeing anything different than we have in the past.


It wasn't until the advent of TV that this became an actual cultural stigma.

I wonder if this had anything to do with the EL.Bee.'s the camera adds ... :?


If its the camera's fault, Id like to know how many camera's are aimed at Rosie O'donnel when she's on TV ! :shock: :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:07 am

StevePerryHair wrote:I just hate that it is something these girls live and breathe. Like there aren't more important things than if your thighs touch or not or if her noses is too big, or if her boobs are getting too big for her frame size. The focus seems way off to me. And maybe Im just forgetting. Maybe I had some of these things happen when I was younger too. But I guess Im just amazed at how aware they are of fashion and things fitting just right, wearing tight things, it's just so different to me. The 80's were great for size 8/10 girls like me!! We could wear baggy clothes :lol:


If kids want to kind something to pick on, they'll do it. There are certainly more important things than what you look like or what clothes you wear... the kids who learn early to value that and treat people well are the ones who go through getting picked on for dumb stuff like that (and therefore learn from it...). I got picked on in jr. high because I was the shy quiet one - an easy target so to speak - and I didn't have the great clothes and I was flat and whatever else was on their made up list of things that were "wrong". The boys were the worst. One of them gave me a stupid nickname because of my nose... I mean .. really? But that's what they do, fine one dumb thing to pick on you for, as if there isn't enough pressure to be this or be that to start off with... When the boys dicovered the whole bra-snapping routine, I remember one horrible little boy did it to me once and said "you don't even need this, what are you wearing it for?"

And the girls in high school weren't much better. Some teenage girls seem to almost make an entire sport of tearing each other down. If you aren't one of the 'cool' ones, forget it. And I know (now) they they do it to make themselves feel better, or look better. Hell, I've even run into adults who do that. They have a need for you to see things a certain way, or see certain things about people so that you won't be looking at what they don't want you to see about them. Insecurity.

And kids really take that stuff to heart. :(
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:15 am

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StevePerryHair wrote:I just hate that it is something these girls live and breathe. Like there aren't more important things than if your thighs touch or not or if her noses is too big, or if her boobs are getting too big for her frame size. The focus seems way off to me. And maybe Im just forgetting. Maybe I had some of these things happen when I was younger too. But I guess Im just amazed at how aware they are of fashion and things fitting just right, wearing tight things, it's just so different to me. The 80's were great for size 8/10 girls like me!! We could wear baggy clothes :lol:


If kids want to kind something to pick on, they'll do it. There are certainly more important things than what you look like or what clothes you wear... the kids who learn early to value that and treat people well are the ones who go through getting picked on for dumb stuff like that (and therefore learn from it...). I got picked on in jr. high because I was the shy quiet one - an easy target so to speak - and I didn't have the great clothes and I was flat and whatever else was on their made up list of things that were "wrong". The boys were the worst. One of them gave me a stupid nickname because of my nose... I mean .. really? But that's what they do, fine one dumb thing to pick on you for, as if there isn't enough pressure to be this or be that to start off with... When the boys dicovered the whole bra-snapping routine, I remember one horrible little boy did it to me once and said "you don't even need this, what are you wearing it for?"

And the girls in high school weren't much better. Some teenage girls seem to almost make an entire sport of tearing each other down. If you aren't one of the 'cool' ones, forget it. And I know (now) they they do it to make themselves feel better, or look better. Hell, I've even run into adults who do that. They have a need for you to see things a certain way, or see certain things about people so that you won't be looking at what they don't want you to see about them. Insecurity.

And kids really take that stuff to heart. :(


I tell my daughter all the time it's their own insecurities that make them say those things. I mean good lord!! She was upset that a girl said her thighs don't touch, and it made her self conscious about them!! So I asked her, does that girl have thighs that touch? Are they kind of big for her size maybe? And my daughter said, yes, they touch, and she's short so her thighs aren't really thin. So I said BINGO, that is your answer. She is NOT happy with her thighs, so she had to cut yours down to make herself feel better. These aren't just "mean girls". These are girls who are all friends. That's what bothers me. Their doing it to the girls they care about too. Sure there were girls who said things to me that affected me. I was horribly shy back then too. I still remember some of the things that hurt my feelings. Amazing how we let that stuff from so long ago still take up brain space :lol: So I guess knowing the words hurt, is why my mom claws come out when she comes home with these stories. I tell her to be careful who she is choosing as friends. That if someone is not good for you, you might want to reconsider the friendship. And she does seem to migrate away from the girls who do this, but not without hurting first. It's hard to watch your kid hurt :( :lol: Anyway, I just hate that all things they pick on these days seem to be about weight, boob size, and facial features. She was at a sleep over, and the girls made a "boob list" comparing who had the biggest to smallest in order.... how would you have liked to be girl number 12???? This is age 14!!! RIDICULOUS!!
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:26 am

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Michigan Girl wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Let's be honest here though Lynn - women tend to be more concerned with their appearance historically. Forget what the paradigm body type of the moment is. That's a fact, jack :lol:

We're not seeing anything different than we have in the past.


It wasn't until the advent of TV that this became an actual cultural stigma.

I wonder if this had anything to do with the EL.Bee.'s the camera adds ... :?


If its the camera's fault, Id like to know how many camera's are aimed at Rosie O'donnel when she's on TV ! :shock: :lol:


:P :lol:

why can't they invent a camera that shrinks us? Oh yeah, that's what photoshop is for :roll: :lol: :lol: Can you imagine if they found a way to start photoshopping film?? It would just give us more unrealistic images to live up to I guess. Except for in Parfait's world!!! Apparently THERE, everyone is fit, healthy, rail thin and beautiful... sounds like utopia :roll: :lol: :lol: Bet there are lots of mirrors in that utopia too!!!! :twisted:
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:21 pm

I like a nice little to medium firm ass,a close to flat abbs as possible and a medium to a full rack.most guys do unless the survery was done in front of their. Wives and that's no bullshit
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Postby Behshad » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:31 pm

stevew2 wrote:I like a nice little to medium firm ass,a close to flat abbs as possible and a medium to a full racks


For here , or to go ?! :lol:

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:23 am

StevePerryHair wrote:why can't they invent a camera that shrinks us? Oh yeah, that's what photoshop is for :roll: :lol: :lol: Can you imagine if they found a way to start photoshopping film?? It would just give us more unrealistic images to live up to I guess.


Omg, speaking of photoshop and of teens / body image... I have a story about that... and not a good one...

I used to work for an equestrian publication... and part of the magazine's content was ads that the competitors would buy if they placed in a show, etc. Well, with one ad, instead of a riding/competition shot like they usually are, it was the girl standing with her horse... she was about 14 years old, 15 at most, cute little girl... and not overweight or obese, but she had kind of a chubby thing happening around her middle... but in no way was she a "fat girl". I guess I'd call it baby fat, or whatever.

Well, the parents paid the extra design time to photoshop the girl to look thin around the middle... I was stunned that a parent would do that. I mean, that whole world of people tend to be - and I hesitate to say it, I don't know if we have any equestrians here - but it's a very very expensive thing, so the people that own horses and are involved in those kinds of competitions and showings... well, a good part of them have decent money and many of them are very... um.. "elite". Appearances are important... but to do that to a kid? A 14 year old girl? I don't even know whose idea it was to do it, it might have even been the kid's idea... but why wouldn't the parents say no? I would. I'd rather have my child learn to be proud of who they are AS they are.

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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:34 am

Wow! That's a sad thing Kim! I don't get parents sometimes. You may as well just tell her "oh you're not good enough, but we can fix that" :roll: sad!!
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Postby Melissa » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:17 am

StevePerryHair wrote:Wow! That's a sad thing Kim! I don't get parents sometimes. You may as well just tell her "oh you're not good enough, but we can fix that" :roll: sad!!


It was fun last night at the movie both of us wearing our same size FAT girl jeans :roll: :lol: :wink: and eating... oh my gosh... some CANDY! :lol: And then we hit Sbux after... oh my gosh! :lol: Next time we're out shopping I guess we should hit Lane Bryant huh? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby DrFU » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:54 am

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StevePerryHair wrote:Wow! That's a sad thing Kim! I don't get parents sometimes. You may as well just tell her "oh you're not good enough, but we can fix that" :roll: sad!!


It was fun last night at the movie both of us wearing our same size FAT girl jeans :roll: :lol: :wink: and eating... oh my gosh... some CANDY! :lol: And then we hit Sbux after... oh my gosh! :lol: Next time we're out shopping I guess we should hit Lane Bryant huh? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


Did you guys go see Eat Pray Love?
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Postby Melissa » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:08 am

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StevePerryHair wrote:Wow! That's a sad thing Kim! I don't get parents sometimes. You may as well just tell her "oh you're not good enough, but we can fix that" :roll: sad!!


It was fun last night at the movie both of us wearing our same size FAT girl jeans :roll: :lol: :wink: and eating... oh my gosh... some CANDY! :lol: And then we hit Sbux after... oh my gosh! :lol: Next time we're out shopping I guess we should hit Lane Bryant huh? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


Did you guys go see Eat Pray Love?


Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:

Your av is gorgeous!!
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Postby DrFU » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:15 am

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Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:Wow! That's a sad thing Kim! I don't get parents sometimes. You may as well just tell her "oh you're not good enough, but we can fix that" :roll: sad!!


It was fun last night at the movie both of us wearing our same size FAT girl jeans :roll: :lol: :wink: and eating... oh my gosh... some CANDY! :lol: And then we hit Sbux after... oh my gosh! :lol: Next time we're out shopping I guess we should hit Lane Bryant huh? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


Did you guys go see Eat Pray Love?


Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:

Your av is gorgeous!!


Thanks ... oldest boy child's photography ...

Critics are not being kind to Eat Pray Love, but I loved the book and thought the movie adaptation was excellent ... there's a cool scene in there where Julia Roberts and another woman talk about women's body images and attitudes toward food. Actually there are lots of cool scenes, including one with some great Aussie buns ... :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:24 am

DrFU wrote:Critics are not being kind to Eat Pray Love, but I loved the book and thought the movie adaptation was excellent ... there's a cool scene in there where Julia Roberts and another woman talk about women's body images and attitudes toward food. Actually there are lots of cool scenes, including one with some great Aussie buns ... :lol:


I have to read the book still, my sister-in-law passes books to me when she's done with them, lol, I was going to take it to the beach last week but had started another book already that I wanted to finish first, lol! Will have to read that one soon and see the movie!
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Postby Triple S » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:39 am

Melissa wrote:Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:



Hilarious movie (although I think some of the humor went over the heads of the crowd at the show we were at - not a lot of laughter :? ). I loved it.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:36 am

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Melissa wrote:Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:



Hilarious movie (although I think some of the humor went over the heads of the crowd at the show we were at - not a lot of laughter :? ). I loved it.
So many times I feel like I am the only one laughing in movies like this and I wonder what happened to peoples humor!!!! I love dumb humor and will ferrel just cracks me up no matter what he does! It's that deadpan serious thing he does! Loved this movie! Mark wahlberg was great too! I'm not used to him being in a comedic role with someone like will! It was funny! :lol:
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Postby Triple S » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:26 pm

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Melissa wrote:Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:



Hilarious movie (although I think some of the humor went over the heads of the crowd at the show we were at - not a lot of laughter :? ). I loved it.
So many times I feel like I am the only one laughing in movies like this and I wonder what happened to peoples humor!!!! I love dumb humor and will ferrel just cracks me up no matter what he does! It's that deadpan serious thing he does! Loved this movie! Mark wahlberg was great too! I'm not used to him being in a comedic role with someone like will! It was funny! :lol:


"You should have shot A-Rod" :lol: - how can you not laugh at that? (I heard one other person let out a loud guffaw-other than that-dead silence)

I don't know if you've ever seen Wild at Heart (Nicolas Cage, Laura Dern) - but I still remember to this day the scene where the dog came running out of the house where they'd just had a shoot-out or something - carrying a hand in his mouth. I found that incredibly funny and burst out laughing - and the woman in front of me turned around and just glared at me! Granted - dark, as opposed to classic humor, maybe - but it was funny :wink:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:41 pm

Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
Melissa wrote:Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:



Hilarious movie (although I think some of the humor went over the heads of the crowd at the show we were at - not a lot of laughter :? ). I loved it.
So many times I feel like I am the only one laughing in movies like this and I wonder what happened to peoples humor!!!! I love dumb humor and will ferrel just cracks me up no matter what he does! It's that deadpan serious thing he does! Loved this movie! Mark wahlberg was great too! I'm not used to him being in a comedic role with someone like will! It was funny! :lol:


"You should have shot A-Rod" :lol: - how can you not laugh at that? (I heard one other person let out a loud guffaw-other than that-dead silence)

I don't know if you've ever seen Wild at Heart (Nicolas Cage, Laura Dern) - but I still remember to this day the scene where the dog came running out of the house where they'd just had a shoot-out or something - carrying a hand in his mouth. I found that incredibly funny and burst out laughing - and the woman in front of me turned around and just glared at me! Granted - dark, as opposed to classic humor, maybe - but it was funny :wink:


That line was hilarious! It had a lot of good one liners and that's what I love in a movie! And with will ferrell you always end up with unexpected off the wall things! And they slip things in that you really have to be paying attention to get. :lol:

I never saw that Nicolas cage movie! I like dark humor too though. I know it sounds warped, but I love a movie that can make you laugh when people are getting killed, not because I have secret dreams of being a murderer or I am warped but just because to me that's comedic genius to me when you can make ME laugh at violence. I normally hate brutally violent movies, but if they are comedic, I can handle it fine :lol: I caught War of the Roses on HBO the other day after not seeing it in about 20 years, and its' SO dark, and horrible but SO funny! I laughed the entire movie :lol: That kind of thing :lol: Oh, I just saw a movie with John Travolta I liked too! "From Paris with Love" His violent type of characters are always so funny to me. He plays a good guy, but kind of rogue in his ways. I laughed a lot at his lines in the movie :lol:
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:26 pm

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stevew2 wrote:I like a nice little to medium firm ass,a close to flat abbs as possible and a medium to a full racks


For here , or to go ?! :lol:

( sorry but it sounded like you're ordering at a drive through window ;) )
one can fantisize can't they?
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Postby SherriBerry » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:53 pm

Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
Melissa wrote:Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:



Hilarious movie (although I think some of the humor went over the heads of the crowd at the show we were at - not a lot of laughter :? ). I loved it.
So many times I feel like I am the only one laughing in movies like this and I wonder what happened to peoples humor!!!! I love dumb humor and will ferrel just cracks me up no matter what he does! It's that deadpan serious thing he does! Loved this movie! Mark wahlberg was great too! I'm not used to him being in a comedic role with someone like will! It was funny! :lol:


"You should have shot A-Rod" :lol: - how can you not laugh at that? (I heard one other person let out a loud guffaw-other than that-dead silence)


That was funny - I don't know what is wrong with people! I guess they may have been expecting a standard comedy and this was more of a spoof, but I am still chuckling a week later. 'Grown Ups' got poor reviews too and it was not only hilarious, but had a great soundtrack! Each movie had scenes that would have been better left on the cutting room floor, but it was worth it to go to both.
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Postby Melissa » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:04 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:It had a lot of good one liners and that's what I love in a movie!


Me too, I LOVE one-liners and I'm mad I can't remember them all from that one because of laughing so much :lol: Like when they're in the Prius - "I feel like we're literally driving around in a vagina" :lol: :lol:
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Postby Triple S » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:31 am

SherriBerry wrote:
Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
Melissa wrote:Nope, saw The Other Guys! It was funny! But she and I have guy senses of humor :lol: :lol:



Hilarious movie (although I think some of the humor went over the heads of the crowd at the show we were at - not a lot of laughter :? ). I loved it.
So many times I feel like I am the only one laughing in movies like this and I wonder what happened to peoples humor!!!! I love dumb humor and will ferrel just cracks me up no matter what he does! It's that deadpan serious thing he does! Loved this movie! Mark wahlberg was great too! I'm not used to him being in a comedic role with someone like will! It was funny! :lol:


"You should have shot A-Rod" :lol: - how can you not laugh at that? (I heard one other person let out a loud guffaw-other than that-dead silence)


That was funny - I don't know what is wrong with people! I guess they may have been expecting a standard comedy and this was more of a spoof, but I am still chuckling a week later. 'Grown Ups' got poor reviews too and it was not only hilarious, but had a great soundtrack! Each movie had scenes that would have been better left on the cutting room floor, but it was worth it to go to both.


Christinith and Hal :lol: - talk about your psycho couple! Seems they've become quite the cultural phenomena - they have little video clips all over the 'net.
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Postby steveo777 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:26 am

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stevew2 wrote:I like a nice little to medium firm ass,a close to flat abbs as possible and a medium to a full racks


For here , or to go ?! :lol:

( sorry but it sounded like you're ordering at a drive through window ;) )


I'll just eat it here. :lol:
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Postby stevew2 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:44 am

steveo777 wrote:
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stevew2 wrote:I like a nice little to medium firm ass,a close to flat abbs as possible and a medium to a full racks


For here , or to go ?! :lol:

( sorry but it sounded like you're ordering at a drive through window ;) )


I'll just eat it here. :lol:
dont want it supersized though
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