Anyone else have terrible In-Laws?

[YoungJRNY]

I dread that I'm going to get the call at any moment of "Uncle so and so is having a party, even though it's 9.am in the morning and a short notice, they would love for us to go out and spend the day, so would you want to come?" type of situation. Our privacy is short lived together and some times her mother or cousins or whatever doesn't understand that quality in a relationship and always call at certain times to make plans on the dot while she's with me in the morning or whenever else.

That's what mine were like. It was always something. And I didn't really mind THAT part... but it became an expectation that the answer would always be yes..... I don't know if you get this part or not, but if we ever had to say "no, we can't...." - omg the drama that would follow. My MIL is the eternal victim of everything. And if she felt slighted in any way, the entire family would hear the story first from her, in HER words, and the phone calls would start. "How could you do/say that to her.... "

And never ASKED us what happened, just immediately launched into the lecture.

"Uh... that's NOT what we did/said. Every time.

After 4 years, my GF is finally to atleast understand where I'm coming from at times and appreciating my efforts more often. I've been to countless number of gatherings and always go out of my way to support her in it. As soon as I say I'm not up for it she gets her panties in a bunch and seems to get offended EVERYTIME.

Just this past Saturday, the Steelers played their first pre-season game and the day before she gave me the "BTW, my brother is having a little get together for his bday at his apartment. I'm not pushing it on you but if you'd like to go, we are leaving at 4 and should be back by 6 and you could watch the game with your dad." I instantly gave her the look and told her you KNOW how it goes. Something will happen and everyone will decide to stay for the game and mingle and all of that. She said they'd be home before the game bc her mom wanted to watch it at home and wasn't up for the commotion. She said she'd just stop over my house whenever they decide to leave and we could watch the game.

Wouldn't you know it they ended up staying well past 9:00 because it stormed and rained pretty badly. The cable went out and EVERYTHING so they couldn't watch the game. I told her I have a 6th sense for this kind of thing and knew if I went then I would of been stuck and miserable let alone angry. She said she would of felt terrible and hates it when I'm right lmao.

[Michigan Girl]

true story here.i've been with the same person 14 years this june and me and her mother always got along.however me and her father didn't.this man was a bad drug addict.i found this out shortly after we got together when there was never any food in the house and the television always come up missing.maybe pawned is a better word for it.me and him butted heads a lot and we didn't really like each other.we mainly got along for the sake of his daughter

anyway the problems he had always put a strain on his family and me too since i pretty much lived in the same house.well i developed bad health issues too mainly from all the partying and i bottomed out and went into the hospital in august of 1999 and stayed a month and it pretty much saved my life.i quit drinking and doing drugs and it caused me and her father a very bitter fight because i no longer drank and refused to fund the drinking and drugging.after i got out of the hospital we had this falling out and he wanted me away from his daughter so we pretty much broke up except for the odd sneaking around here and there but it basically nearly killed mine and her relationship.

in march of 2000 one evening he woke up from a nap to go get a beer at the store and collapsed at the front door dead of a heart attack at age 42.i felt bad about it but i know now if he would've survived me and her would not have been together and i wouldn't have my two kids.her mother got remarried and me and the new father in law get along much better and he leads a much healthier lifestyle.

You tell the most fascinating stories...sometimes sad. but always an excellent moral!

[artist4perry]

and rearranged my Farm on Farmville.

Now THAT is going too fucking far!

That BITCH!!!!

Alright you two! The point is my 22 year old thinks she always has a better way. And is driving me crazy by almost insisting on me running every aspect of my life "her" way. I love her. She is not going to win this one.

[Michigan Girl]

true story here.i've been with the same person 14 years this june and me and her mother always got along.however me and her father didn't.this man was a bad drug addict.i found this out shortly after we got together when there was never any food in the house and the television always come up missing.maybe pawned is a better word for it.me and him butted heads a lot and we didn't really like each other.we mainly got along for the sake of his daughter

anyway the problems he had always put a strain on his family and me too since i pretty much lived in the same house.well i developed bad health issues too mainly from all the partying and i bottomed out and went into the hospital in august of 1999 and stayed a month and it pretty much saved my life.i quit drinking and doing drugs and it caused me and her father a very bitter fight because i no longer drank and refused to fund the drinking and drugging.after i got out of the hospital we had this falling out and he wanted me away from his daughter so we pretty much broke up except for the odd sneaking around here and there but it basically nearly killed mine and her relationship.

in march of 2000 one evening he woke up from a nap to go get a beer at the store and collapsed at the front door dead of a heart attack at age 42.i felt bad about it but i know now if he would've survived me and her would not have been together and i wouldn't have my two kids.her mother got remarried and me and the new father in law get along much better and he leads a much healthier lifestyle.

You tell the most fascinating stories...sometimes sad. but always an excellent moral!

[Michigan Girl]

true story here.i've been with the same person 14 years this june and me and her mother always got along.however me and her father didn't.this man was a bad drug addict.i found this out shortly after we got together when there was never any food in the house and the television always come up missing.maybe pawned is a better word for it.me and him butted heads a lot and we didn't really like each other.we mainly got along for the sake of his daughter

anyway the problems he had always put a strain on his family and me too since i pretty much lived in the same house.well i developed bad health issues too mainly from all the partying and i bottomed out and went into the hospital in august of 1999 and stayed a month and it pretty much saved my life.i quit drinking and doing drugs and it caused me and her father a very bitter fight because i no longer drank and refused to fund the drinking and drugging.after i got out of the hospital we had this falling out and he wanted me away from his daughter so we pretty much broke up except for the odd sneaking around here and there but it basically nearly killed mine and her relationship.

in march of 2000 one evening he woke up from a nap to go get a beer at the store and collapsed at the front door dead of a heart attack at age 42.i felt bad about it but i know now if he would've survived me and her would not have been together and i wouldn't have my two kids.her mother got remarried and me and the new father in law get along much better and he leads a much healthier lifestyle.

You tell the most fascinating stories...sometimes sad. but always an excellent moral!

[Michigan Girl]

true story here.i've been with the same person 14 years this june and me and her mother always got along.however me and her father didn't.this man was a bad drug addict.i found this out shortly after we got together when there was never any food in the house and the television always come up missing.maybe pawned is a better word for it.me and him butted heads a lot and we didn't really like each other.we mainly got along for the sake of his daughter

anyway the problems he had always put a strain on his family and me too since i pretty much lived in the same house.well i developed bad health issues too mainly from all the partying and i bottomed out and went into the hospital in august of 1999 and stayed a month and it pretty much saved my life.i quit drinking and doing drugs and it caused me and her father a very bitter fight because i no longer drank and refused to fund the drinking and drugging.after i got out of the hospital we had this falling out and he wanted me away from his daughter so we pretty much broke up except for the odd sneaking around here and there but it basically nearly killed mine and her relationship.

in march of 2000 one evening he woke up from a nap to go get a beer at the store and collapsed at the front door dead of a heart attack at age 42.i felt bad about it but i know now if he would've survived me and her would not have been together and i wouldn't have my two kids.her mother got remarried and me and the new father in law get along much better and he leads a much healthier lifestyle.

You tell the most fascinating stories...sometimes sad. but always an excellent moral!

[Michigan Girl]

I hope I don't have to repeat myself again....duhhhammm, sorry...:/

[parfait]

I hope I don't have to repeat myself again....duhhhammm, sorry...:/

It's ok.

I don't have any in in-laws, but there's always a shitload of family in and out of the house back home. We had as much as 8-9 people living in our pool house this summer. But that's southern European culture for you - the family stays together. We would never put a grandmother or whatever to one of them retirements home. One of my cousins just hit puberty though; that shit is awesome. Oily skin, Scooby Doo voice and always trying to establish his superiority. The little fucker even managed to beat me in a water scooter race.


I don't get how you can take it though, YoungJRNY.

[Rip Rokken]

I had your stereotypical "monster-in-law" though. My god, she was terrible to me. But she was textbook. Histrionic personality, eternal victim, can't "let go" of her kids.... she was unnecessarily mean to me, but the kind of passive-aggressive mean where if you called her out, she'd claim to have meant something else.... whatever. A few months back I saw her for the first time in years at a funeral and she hadn't changed.

Wow, I always wondered what happened to my first wife's mother! How is Lois these days, Kim? People like this amaze me, and hopefully one day science can dissect their brains to find the defect that causes this grave disorder.

Yeah, she was pretty mean. It used to hurt me SO badly, because I really wanted to get along with his family, I liked them, and of course you always want the mom to like you.... But because I wasn't "family" (before we were married), I was never included in anything. I mean, she went out of her way to actually keep me out of things. She always wanted everything to be "just me and my kids".

Here's a great one.... One time, she actually took it upon herself to buy a plane ticket for my ex for a family trip. I was never asked. We were saving all our vacation time for the honeymoon that same year. We both only got 2 weeks. He told her he wasn't going on the family trip because of that. She turned around and bought the ticket anyway (this was a WEEK long trip) and GUILTED him.... "welll I already bought the ticket, you have to go!" (uh, AFTER he said no he wasn't going). And did Mr. No Balls hold ground? Nope. (and that caused a fight that I will never ever forget, ever.)

But, he wouldn't agree to go unless I went too (which of course WE had to pay for, but it f'ked up her good time, so it was a little bit worth it...lol). She was NOT at all pleased that I was infringing upon her family time, and despite being about to be married to her kid, I was NOT family.

Then there was one time, not long after we got engaged, where she included me on something she was doing, I thought she was making an effort, and the following weekend she invited me to something again.... and I thought, "wow, ok, so we're making progress..." Guess what. Soon as she had her car repaired, and didn't need a ride, I was not invited out by her ever again. And that's one of the mild stories. There are so many, and some of them, I still can't even believe if I think about them....LOL. Thankfully I don't have much occasion to think of any of that anymore.

Haha... what a manipulative sociopath! Was she on a bunch of meds, too? Here's a couple for ya, and I'm getting deja vu like I've posted them before. Hmm, I did! So easier for me to just paste it again, LOL...

In a nutshell, loved the father-in-law but he was PASSIVE and did NOT wear the pants in the family. My mother-in-law was one of the most manipulative, selfish people I'd ever met. Holidays were a nightmare, and I could see that before we tied the knot when watching some of their Christmas videos. The MIL overspent on everyone and made sure they knew how much she spent as they opened their gifts. I love everyone but I've never been an ass-kisser. I did the best I could as a son-in-law but didn't let her jerk me around, and made it very politely clear that we made our own choices in life. Ahh, the ignorance of youth... guess who won?



You'd be astounded at some of the crap the MIL pulled, and this was a woman in her early 60's mine ye. Here's one choice nugget -- she got us our first NICE apartment and rigged us up on a HUD deal so we only paid $80/mo. for a year. It was in clear sight of her office window across the street. One night, we turned in a bit early, maybe 9-ish. MIL calls us on the phone from her office. My wife answered, and MIL says, "Your lights just went out. What's going on up there? I was worried." Things really started to go south after the first year when I refused to resign up under the HUD deal -- we both had decent jobs by this time and I didn't want to be scamming off the government. MIL resented me for that, because she was losing some control. I'd already quit letting her bring over sacks of groceries for us every week -- it was just important for me to make our own way in life.

Any time we had an argument, MIL had friends with pickup trucks on call ready to come move all her stuff out. Happened three times within a year and a half -- after the 2nd time , she refused to return the bed she'd given us when we got married and we had to sleep on a borrowed mattress. The 3rd time, she offered to pay for my wife's Master's degree tuition if she left, and it stuck.

Here's something I learned back then, and it's very damn true -- people often will relate to their spouses like they do their parents, so you HAVE to pay attention to that crap closely and don't take it for granted. If a girl isn't close to her father and has a dominating, controlling mother, there's a good chance she'll expect to mold you into the same spot as her father (and mine sure did). The reverse is true, of course -- if a dude has a bad relationship with his mother, he'll probably end up treating his wife the same.

Now I could swear I told this one before too, but I can't find it. The 1st time Lois talked the ex into separating, she came over with a newspaper article her mother had shown her about some guy who had hacked up his wife into little pieces, and used that as a reason she should get a divorce. I was pretty disgusted and told her how did that have anything to do with me, because I'm the furthest thing from that type of guy. She told me she said the same thing to her mom in my defense, and so her mom pointed out the part in the article where the neighbors were shocked and never would have guessed the killer would have ever done something like that. You know, "He always seemed like such a nice guy." After that, I did my best to stay polite and do my son-in-law duty but that was the first real moment I knew my mother in law was straight up evil.

[stevew2]

I swear that I honestly have to have some of the WORST In-Laws on the planet, and am just curious if I'm alone here? My wife has 6 brothers and sisters, and we have egomaniacs (It's ALL about me), thieves, crackheads, dumb asses, rednecks (I live in the south, so go figure!). I honestly think I've seen more with this fucking family than anyone would ever believe.

I know this sounds really harsh, but I've grown to despise some of them and fucking HATE Christmas and other get-togethers because I know I'll have to be around them. I swear, I must be the biggest asshole on earth for not being more forgiving, but after 16 years of this shit... I can't STAND it anymore!!!

To much interbreding Sarge, did one of them look like this??

[Angel]

Here's something I learned back then, and it's very damn true -- people often will relate to their spouses like they do their parents, so you HAVE to pay attention to that crap closely and don't take it for granted. If a girl isn't close to her father and has a dominating, controlling mother, there's a good chance she'll expect to mold you into the same spot as her father (and mine sure did). The reverse is true, of course -- if a dude has a bad relationship with his mother, he'll probably end up treating his wife the same. [/color]

....and if he's a "mama's boy" that will never change and his wife will ALWAYS take a back seat to his mother....that makes for a terrible marriage.

[Rip Rokken]

To much interbreding Sarge, did one of them look like this??

Dude looks familiar!

[bluejeangirl76]

Now I could swear I told this one before too, but I can't find it. The 1st time Lois talked the ex into separating, she came over with a newspaper article her mother had shown her about some guy who had hacked up his wife into little pieces, and used that as a reason she should get a divorce. I was pretty disgusted and told her how did that have anything to do with me, because I'm the furthest thing from that type of guy. She told me she said the same thing to her mom in my defense, and so her mom pointed out the part in the article where the neighbors were shocked and never would have guessed the killer would have ever done something like that. You know, "He always seemed like such a nice guy." After that, I did my best to stay polite and do my son-in-law duty but that was the first real moment I knew my mother in law was straight up evil.

Uh. You win. That's pretty...

And no, mine wasn't on meds, but she needed to be. Her basic problem was she couldn't and wouldn't let go of the mothering role and she was jealous. And that led to all kinds of horrible behavior, and since he was the oldest, and the first one to leave the nest and get married, I paid the biggest price for her not being able to let go. She never failed to let me know, blatantly, that I was only welcome as long as I toed the line and did not usurp the authority she believed she held over him. He was not a mama's boy, but he also wouldn't stand up for himself (or me) because "it's just how she is" and it wan't worth the argument.

My point always was, well you know what, I don't care how she "is", that doesn't give her a free pass to run over us. It was a constant struggle (on her part, she was the only one playing these games) for power, and it felt like she was struggling for power over him. It was really weird. It was like she thought I had some kind of "power" (believe me, that isn't true... lol... if I did my life would be really different, lmao). I didn't want "power", I just wanted respect, from BOTH of those maniacs (LOL). She never gave me the respect I deserved for the position I was in (being her son's wife) and he never gave me the respect I deserved AS his wife when she would pull bullshit. Man, was that writing on the wall or what....lol. He was happy to just hang back and say "ignore her, she doesn't rule us..." except that he would never tell her when she was being inappropriate or overstepping, so he pretty much let her get away with it all.

It went on for so long that when he finally started to speak up on things, you'd have thought he was knifing her in the heart. The worst one of all was the week of the wedding. We were both literally about to tell her not to come. In fact, he got so mad (at her), he had the car keys in his hand and he was yelling "I'm going over there right now and HAVING THIS OUT!" I should have let him. Man I have not thought about a lot of this in years...lol!! But I really should have let him. It needed to happen. But at the time I felt that it didn't need to happen 4 days before my wedding and ruin the whole thing. Well, she came to the wedding and while she didn't ruin it, she was NOT on good behavior.

Stellar topic idea Jim.... I'm sorry that you have enough issues with yours to have started this one up in the first place, but you have to laugh... I mean, you have to or you'll go nuts. And it's always good to know you're not the only one with this insanity going on. And usually, if you look hard enough, you can find people with worse stories than yours... I sure did. There was a website, not sure if it's still around.... was called www.motherinlawstories.com - they had a message board. Yeah, I was a member for awhile - LOL ... but it helped me actually. I read stories a lot worse than what I dealt with and it was a good outlet to vent where people would understand. You can't be ranting to your spouse about it all the time, no matter how much they agree with you. You just can't do that.

[stevew2]

To much interbreding Sarge, did one of them look like this??

Dude looks familiar!

you prick, I it aint me I swear

[Rip Rokken]

And no, mine wasn't on meds, but she needed to be. Her basic problem was she couldn't and wouldn't let go of the mothering role and she was jealous. And that led to all kinds of horrible behavior, and since he was the oldest, and the first one to leave the nest and get married, I paid the biggest price for her not being able to let go. She never failed to let me know, blatantly, that I was only welcome as long as I toed the line and did not usurp the authority she believed she held over him. He was not a mama's boy, but he also wouldn't stand up for himself (or me) because "it's just how she is" and it wan't worth the argument.

My point always was, well you know what, I don't care how she "is", that doesn't give her a free pass to run over us. It was a constant struggle (on her part, she was the only one playing these games) for power, and it felt like she was struggling for power over him. It was really weird. It was like she thought I had some kind of "power" (believe me, that isn't true... lol... if I did my life would be really different, lmao). I didn't want "power", I just wanted respect, from BOTH of those maniacs (LOL). She never gave me the respect I deserved for the position I was in (being her son's wife) and he never gave me the respect I deserved AS his wife when she would pull bullshit. Man, was that writing on the wall or what....lol. He was happy to just hang back and say "ignore her, she doesn't rule us..." except that he would never tell her when she was being inappropriate or overstepping, so he pretty much let her get away with it all.

It went on for so long that when he finally started to speak up on things, you'd have thought he was knifing her in the heart. The worst one of all was the week of the wedding. We were both literally about to tell her not to come. In fact, he got so mad (at her), he had the car keys in his hand and he was yelling "I'm going over there right now and HAVING THIS OUT!" I should have let him. Man I have not thought about a lot of this in years...lol!! But I really should have let him. It needed to happen. But at the time I felt that it didn't need to happen 4 days before my wedding and ruin the whole thing. Well, she came to the wedding and while she didn't ruin it, she was NOT on good behavior.

Stellar topic idea Jim.... I'm sorry that you have enough issues with yours to have started this one up in the first place, but you have to laugh... I mean, you have to or you'll go nuts. And it's always good to know you're not the only one with this insanity going on. And usually, if you look hard enough, you can find people with worse stories than yours... I sure did. There was a website, not sure if it's still around.... was called www.motherinlawstories.com - they had a message board. Yeah, I was a member for awhile - LOL ... but it helped me actually. I read stories a lot worse than what I dealt with and it was a good outlet to vent where people would understand. You can't be ranting to your spouse about it all the time, no matter how much they agree with you. You just can't do that.

More, more!!! It's good to purge, ya know!

... I liked them, and of course you always want the mom to like you.... But because I wasn't "family" (before we were married), I was never included in anything. I mean, she went out of her way to actually keep me out of things. She always wanted everything to be "just me and my kids".

Hmm... if you'd been family before you got married, would you still have gone thru with the wedding?

[Clasicrockldy]

My in-laws are pretty good most of the time. There have been times where they would "persuade" you to do things their way, especially when it came to borrowing money from them. Then when their 3rd oldest son went back to prison,I was on their shit list for many years. I did things my way, and they didn't like it. I was, and still am, a very stubborn person.

Once, when they asked me to come down and watch my oldest kids while they went to Hawaii... I said no. I said I had one more semester at community college and that welfare was getting sick and tired of me not finishing the course I was taking. Then they tried to pull out "I am going to put the kids into foster care if you don't come down and watch them" card.. Trying to guilt me into it and hoping that I didn't know anything about the law. I told them to go ahead and do it, but I said to them, the court will look for their father and their mother, and place them with family first before they would put them into the foster system. And I said you can't use the court system or foster care system like that. You can't put them in and 3 months later after your vacation, take them out.. Since then, they either have respected me more, or they knew I beat them at their own game.

Now, I am the only sane one of the daughters-in-law.. One turned out to be a bitch, one is back on drugs and alcohol, and the other dyes her hair blonde so many times, she acts like a dumb blonde most of the time. Thank god I still have my sanity.

[Rip Rokken]

[Now, I am the only sane one of the daughters-in-law.. One turned out to be a bitch, one is back on drugs and alcohol, and the other dyes her hair blonde so many times, she acts like a dumb blonde most of the time. Thank god I still have my sanity.

That looks like Don Dokken in your avatar. I like his new hairdo!

[bluejeangirl76]

Hmm... if you'd been family before you got married, would you still have gone thru with the wedding?

You know what I meant!!

It was so weird, because the rest of them, they ALL treated me as family from the day I met them. When we got married, his dad's side was happier than all hell and every single one of them specifically told me me "welcome to the family". I always called my father-in-law 'dad'. I mean, the rest of them MORE than made up for what I didn't get from her. On the whole I really did have great in-laws.

But I remember the first day I met her, she was cold and quiet. She was upset when we got engaged. She didn't speak to me at the wedding. The only thing she said to me the whole day was "That's a nice dress." I'm not kidding. She didn't want me in the "family picture" taken by our photographer at the wedding. She just wanted her and her 3 kids. I could understand this if there was some kind of argument at some point that maybe she couldn't get over, or if I'd done something... but none of that ever happened. She just didn't like people being "in the way" of her family or in the way of things she wanted or expected of them.

Holidays.... oh dear lord.... that was a battle. We had to divide time between her side, his dad's side and my family... she was not at all having that and she actually "warned" me about it, the very first year we were dating. I was stunned. She waited until he wasn't around one day and she asked me what day does my family do Christmas (as in do we do it on the 24th or 25th). I guess his ex-gf's family did the 24th so it didn't interfere with her too much. Well, we were a Christmas Day family, and she didn't like that. She told me very specifically that he knows he "better be in my house on Christmas no matter what".

I laugh at it now, hell I'm only remembering a lot of this now because of this topic....lol... but at the time it was constant headaches and stress. And it taught me a lot about dealing with those types, too.

[Rip Rokken]

Holidays.... oh dear lord.... that was a battle. We had to divide time between her side, his dad's side and my family... she was not at all having that and she actually "warned" me about it, the very first year we were dating. I was stunned. She waited until he wasn't around one day and she asked me what day does my family do Christmas (as in do we do it on the 24th or 25th). I guess his ex-gf's family did the 24th so it didn't interfere with her too much. Well, we were a Christmas Day family, and she didn't like that. She told me very specifically that he knows he "better be in my house on Christmas no matter what".

Same here... why is it that histrionic crazed mothers-in-law are so obsessed with (ruining) holidays? They are a big part of why holidays are so stressful for the sane folk. Christmas with Lois was torture. TONS of thinly veiled passive-aggressive competitiveness when it came to the gift giving with her, and she made sure you knew how much she spent on you (and how you didn't return the favor). Wasn't much way to outspend her, she'd see to that, lol.

[Clasicrockldy]

[Now, I am the only sane one of the daughters-in-law.. One turned out to be a bitch, one is back on drugs and alcohol, and the other dyes her hair blonde so many times, she acts like a dumb blonde most of the time. Thank god I still have my sanity.

That looks like Don Dokken in your avatar. I like his new hairdo!

What?!:shock: That surely isn't Don Dokken in my Avatar! ( I hope you are talking about the pic under my sn) That is Tommy Flanagan, who plays Chibs in Sons Of Anarchy!

[Rip Rokken]

[Now, I am the only sane one of the daughters-in-law.. One turned out to be a bitch, one is back on drugs and alcohol, and the other dyes her hair blonde so many times, she acts like a dumb blonde most of the time. Thank god I still have my sanity.

That looks like Don Dokken in your avatar. I like his new hairdo!

What?!:shock: That surely isn't Don Dokken in my Avatar! ( I hope you are talking about the pic under my sn) That is Tommy Flanagan, who plays Chibs in Sons Of Anarchy!

Why, of course it's Don! Why are you arguing with me?

[Clasicrockldy]

[Now, I am the only sane one of the daughters-in-law.. One turned out to be a bitch, one is back on drugs and alcohol, and the other dyes her hair blonde so many times, she acts like a dumb blonde most of the time. Thank god I still have my sanity.

That looks like Don Dokken in your avatar. I like his new hairdo!

What?!:shock: That surely isn't Don Dokken in my Avatar! ( I hope you are talking about the pic under my sn) That is Tommy Flanagan, who plays Chibs in Sons Of Anarchy!

Why, of course it's Don! Why are you arguing with me?

Because I am a stubborn Scotswoman! And I know my Scotsmen! Lmao!

[YoungJRNY]

I hope I don't have to repeat myself again....duhhhammm, sorry...:/

It's ok.

I don't have any in in-laws, but there's always a shitload of family in and out of the house back home. We had as much as 8-9 people living in our pool house this summer. But that's southern European culture for you - the family stays together. We would never put a grandmother or whatever to one of them retirements home. One of my cousins just hit puberty though; that shit is awesome. Oily skin, Scooby Doo voice and always trying to establish his superiority. The little fucker even managed to beat me in a water scooter race.


I don't get how you can take it though, YoungJRNY.

Trust me, the things that you have ever read from me on here are only little quirks in the road and doesn't even scratch the surface of my overall relationship.

I'm sure you look at my ramblings many more ways than it should be looked at. I look at it only one way and that one way is this:

I've come to realize that whenever I go out and have the opportunity to observe, that there just aren't that many women who you can bring home to mama. In other words, their aren't many worthy women to start a long term relationship with and there CERTAINLY aren't too many women out there to who you could marry. I go out and see trash walking around with cigarettes hanging out of their mouth singing a triple karaoke with their sloshed up friends with their thongs hanging out of their ass and making a complete slutty, obnoxious fool of themselves.

My girlfriend is the total opposite of the complete garbage I see nowadays. She's the most caring person I've ever met in my entire life and really does have a genuine care of other people and her fellow man, like me.

She's absolutley respectful in everything she ever does and goes out of her way for people out of kindness of her heart and is an even harder worker. She's great with children and is working her complete ass off at a high profile college in my area that is known to beat the shit out their students when it comes to knowledge.

She is passing with a 4.0 grade overage and have made the Dean's every semester she's in. She's going to be a school teacher. She's smart, funny and is full of personality and is as sweet as they come. She has an oldschool mentality of taking care of her home and even organizes her brothers laundry and lunches for work even though they are several years older than her. She is simply the "one" that is set out to marry and I'm lucky enough to bust my own ass to scoop her up and have the opportunity to show her that there are guys out there that treat girls like her out there like diamonds.

She's also loyal as can be and provides me with the friendship that my own friends have fucked up over the years for being fuckups themselves. I look at the blueprint of dudes around here with envy since they share the certain bond that they share with their buddies. All dudes should have close buddies correct?

Even though I opened my house up to many of my friends and went out of my way for most of them through the years, they repaid me by stealing from me, backstabbing me or just plain old be as unfaithful as possible, which to THIS DAY I don't fully understand givin the friendhip I provided. I'm unlucky in that category of friendship.

My girlfriend? She is my best friend and I'm lucky to have her and that's an understatement. She fills that void. Of course she could be an absolute pain in the mother fucking ass sometimes and her family could be overbearing annoyances to the point of disgust, but that's only a fraction of my relationship I have with her. Any relationship will have that.

You think I'm going to throw away the potential mother of my children? For what? To go out and fuck broads that could give me any sorts of S.T.D's? Where would that leave me in the end? That leaves me opening up the door for some other dude to land a unique woman like my girlfriend.

People always ask me the same thing. "Go out and enjoy yourself, you're young!" Haha, whatver, I've heard it all. People can't wrap it around their head that I simply enjoy my gf's company over anything else. My response to that is this: You're right, but I look at my future. I see myself at 40 years old one day, with a great job, with awesome children and a strong marriage to where I could enjoy for the rest of my life due to the morale I share with my girlfriend NOW. The people who go to the bar now and fuck people they will never know again will be that 40 year old no good drunk that is fat and overweight inches away from the form of depression reminiscing what they could of done different in their youth to have a stabilized family and where it went wrong. They tend to shut their mouth after that one.

And you know what's comforting? She feels the SAME EXACT THING ABOUT ME, if not stronger. I hope you could find it one day parfait, because woman today are nothin but gold digging pieces of shit who are out to fool you and milk you all for what it's worth. It's up to you to look in the right place. (The vulgar-ness does NOT attend to the girlies of MR, of course.)

[stevew2]

[Now, I am the only sane one of the daughters-in-law.. One turned out to be a bitch, one is back on drugs and alcohol, and the other dyes her hair blonde so many times, she acts like a dumb blonde most of the time. Thank god I still have my sanity.

That looks like Don Dokken in your avatar. I like his new hairdo!

What?!:shock: That surely isn't Don Dokken in my Avatar! ( I hope you are talking about the pic under my sn) That is Tommy Flanagan, who plays Chibs in Sons Of Anarchy!

Why, of course it's Don! Why are you arguing with me?

you are a freak of nature

[Rip Rokken]

Because I am a stubborn Scotswoman! And I know my Scotsmen! Lmao!

Cool! Do you have a Scottish accent? I only know 3 real Scotsman... Braveheart, Scotty from Star Trek, and Craig Ferguson. Oh, and the Loch Ness Monster too, if he's considered a Scotsman. Is he real?

[Ehwmatt]

I hope I don't have to repeat myself again....duhhhammm, sorry...:/

It's ok.

I don't have any in in-laws, but there's always a shitload of family in and out of the house back home. We had as much as 8-9 people living in our pool house this summer. But that's southern European culture for you - the family stays together. We would never put a grandmother or whatever to one of them retirements home. One of my cousins just hit puberty though; that shit is awesome. Oily skin, Scooby Doo voice and always trying to establish his superiority. The little fucker even managed to beat me in a water scooter race.


I don't get how you can take it though, YoungJRNY.

Trust me, the things that you have ever read from me on here are only little quirks in the road and doesn't even scratch the surface of my overall relationship.

I'm sure you look at my ramblings many more ways than it should be looked at. I look at it only one way and that one way is this:

I've come to realize that whenever I go out and have the opportunity to observe, that there just aren't that many women who you can bring home to mama. In other words, their aren't many worthy women to start a long term relationship with and there CERTAINLY aren't too many women out there to who you could marry. I go out and see trash walking around with cigarettes hanging out of their mouth singing a triple karaoke with their sloshed up friends with their thongs hanging out of their ass and making a complete slutty, obnoxious fool of themselves.

My girlfriend is the total opposite of the complete garbage I see nowadays. She's the most caring person I've ever met in my entire life and really does have a genuine care of other people and her fellow man, like me.

She's absolutley respectful in everything she ever does and goes out of her way for people out of kindness of her heart and is an even harder worker. She's great with children and is working her complete ass off at a high profile college in my area that is known to beat the shit out their students when it comes to knowledge.

She is passing with a 4.0 grade overage and have made the Dean's every semester she's in. She's going to be a school teacher. She's smart, funny and is full of personality and is as sweet as they come. She has an oldschool mentality of taking care of her home and even organizes her brothers laundry and lunches for work even though they are several years older than her. She is simply the "one" that is set out to marry and I'm lucky enough to bust my own ass to scoop her up and have the opportunity to show her that there are guys out there that treat girls like her out there like diamonds.

She's also loyal as can be and provides me with the friendship that my own friends have fucked up over the years for being fuckups themselves. I look at the blueprint of dudes around here with envy since they share the certain bond that they share with their buddies. All dudes should have close buddies correct?

Even though I opened my house up to many of my friends and went out of my way for most of them through the years, they repaid me by stealing from me, backstabbing me or just plain old be as unfaithful as possible, which to THIS DAY I don't fully understand givin the friendhip I provided. I'm unlucky in that category of friendship.

My girlfriend? She is my best friend and I'm lucky to have her and that's an understatement. She fills that void. Of course she could be an absolute pain in the mother fucking ass sometimes and her family could be overbearing annoyances to the point of disgust, but that's only a fraction of my relationship I have with her. Any relationship will have that.

You think I'm going to throw away the potential mother of my children? For what? To go out and fuck broads that could give me any sorts of S.T.D's? Where would that leave me in the end? That leaves me opening up the door for some other dude to land a unique woman like my girlfriend.

People always ask me the same thing. "Go out and enjoy yourself, you're young!" Haha, whatver, I've heard it all. People can't wrap it around their head that I simply enjoy my gf's company over anything else. My response to that is this: You're right, but I look at my future. I see myself at 40 years old one day, with a great job, with awesome children and a strong marriage to where I could enjoy for the rest of my life due to the morale I share with my girlfriend NOW. The people who go to the bar now and fuck people they will never know again will be that 40 year old no good drunk that is fat and overweight inches away from the form of depression reminiscing what they could of done different in their youth to have a stabilized family and where it went wrong. They tend to shut their mouth after that one.

And you know what's comforting? She feels the SAME EXACT THING ABOUT ME, if not stronger. I hope you could find it one day parfait, because woman today are nothin but gold digging pieces of shit who are out to fool you and milk you all for what it's worth. It's up to you to look in the right place. (The vulgar-ness does NOT attend to the girlies of MR, of course.)

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what living in Shittsburgh does to you in a nutshell. Stealing and backstabbing friends, cheating whores, fat overweight 40 year old women... you have it all.

[Michigan Girl]

awwww, I thought that was sweet, YJ!!

Worth copying, but so wordy!!

[mikemarrs]

true story here.i've been with the same person 14 years this june and me and her mother always got along.however me and her father didn't.this man was a bad drug addict.i found this out shortly after we got together when there was never any food in the house and the television always come up missing.maybe pawned is a better word for it.me and him butted heads a lot and we didn't really like each other.we mainly got along for the sake of his daughter

anyway the problems he had always put a strain on his family and me too since i pretty much lived in the same house.well i developed bad health issues too mainly from all the partying and i bottomed out and went into the hospital in august of 1999 and stayed a month and it pretty much saved my life.i quit drinking and doing drugs and it caused me and her father a very bitter fight because i no longer drank and refused to fund the drinking and drugging.after i got out of the hospital we had this falling out and he wanted me away from his daughter so we pretty much broke up except for the odd sneaking around here and there but it basically nearly killed mine and her relationship.

in march of 2000 one evening he woke up from a nap to go get a beer at the store and collapsed at the front door dead of a heart attack at age 42.i felt bad about it but i know now if he would've survived me and her would not have been together and i wouldn't have my two kids.her mother got remarried and me and the new father in law get along much better and he leads a much healthier lifestyle.

You tell the most fascinating stories...sometimes sad. but always an excellent moral!

thanks MG,been through a lot but usually came out of it stronger and wiser.i do have one regret though and thats after a couple years of doing great i had a couple bad car wrecks in the mid part of 2001 and i started having a few issues with my back and started on the pain pills.of course ten years later i struggle with wanting to get off them and then when i do i start having the back issues again.of course there is an addictive aspect to taking them too.i'd advise anyone that takes them to be careful because they are extremely addictive and hard to get off of if you ever on them for injury.sort of a vicious cycle type of thing.if i could change one thing i might've dealt with that different knowing what i know now.

[Clasicrockldy]

Because I am a stubborn Scotswoman! And I know my Scotsmen! Lmao!

Cool! Do you have a Scottish accent? I only know 3 real Scotsman... Braveheart, Scotty from Star Trek, and Craig Ferguson. Oh, and the Loch Ness Monster too, if he's considered a Scotsman. Is he real?

No, unfortunately, I don't have a Scottish Accent... I was born in California. Sadly, when I try... I sound more Irish. I still have to practice how the Scotsman do the "r's".

William Wallace was a Scotsman, Scotty from Star Trek... well, that is a stretch, and Loch Ness... I don't know if he/she is real or not. My family tree on my father's side has roots in Scotland.. way back there. And of course there is Robert Carlyle, Gerard Butler, James McAvoy, Ewan McGregor, and David Tennant, who are all famous Scotsmen!

[YoungJRNY]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what living in Shittsburgh does to you in a nutshell. Stealing and backstabbing friends, cheating whores, fat overweight 40 year old women... you have it all.

hahahaha, funny coming from a guy living in a sewer and his own excrement called Cleveland.

Since I was involved with sports all my life, I've become close to none other than my traveling buddies on my team.... friends from all over. Granted, I have friends everywhere, good friends, but the ones that I was so damn close with decided to go off to deep end and was nice enough to show me first hand when I tried helping out in their lives. That's what teammates do. I guess you could call it my fault.. D.T.A but all of most closest and best friends actually reside here and Pittsburgh and is a close nit Steelers/football family. PLOT DEBUNKED. Make no mistake about it though, even though we look at things at the opposite end of the spectrum of being from Pitt/Cle, we'd prob get along better than anybody.