Revelation Re-records

[Rockindeano]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Boy are you a spineless, cowardly bitch. You don't want to know what really goes on with this band because you are afraid you will no longer love them? Jesus Christ, Journey does have a lot of pussy fans. Oh if you only knew these characters and what they really stand for, you would be shocked.

[Jeremey]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Wal Mart approached Journey to do rerecords while Augeri was still in the band. Some in the Journey camp were worried that with JSS in the band things may not work out. However, I was told by people IN THE BAND that JSS and Journey did perform a concert with greatest hits for people in the Wal Mart camp and they were still going to move forward with the idea. Neal definitely wanted to make the CD a package of rerecords with a few new songs on it. At the time I was with (around) Journey, there was still uncertainty about the idea because the band knew WM would want video promotion of the package, and everyone from management down to the band itself was worried that Steve Perry would not sign off on allowing video promotion of the disc. During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords. I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs. After I was pretty much on the outs with Journey, Jonathan and Neal continued to write new songs, and the concept became a new CD with a double edition of straight up rerecords to make the suits at WM happy.

And that's the fucking truth.

[Infinity Vocalist 2010]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Wal Mart approached Journey to do rerecords while Augeri was still in the band. Some in the Journey camp were worried that with JSS in the band things may not work out. However, I was told by people IN THE BAND that JSS and Journey did perform a concert with greatest hits for people in the Wal Mart camp and they were still going to move forward with the idea. Neal definitely wanted to make the CD a package of rerecords with a few new songs on it. At the time I was with (around) Journey, there was still uncertainty about the idea because the band knew WM would want video promotion of the package, and everyone from management down to the band itself was worried that Steve Perry would not sign off on allowing video promotion of the disc. During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords. I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs. After I was pretty much on the outs with Journey, Jonathan and Neal continued to write new songs, and the concept became a new CD with a double edition of straight up rerecords to make the suits at WM happy.

And that's the fucking truth.

Ok Jeremey. That's an enlightenment. Thanks. Oh, in case you're interested, I'm a Journey tribute guy, too.

Rockindeano: I really don't give a shit what you think of me, because you don't know me or what goes on in my life that makes Journey important to me. So if you'd like to add anything, I suggest you save it. Because I honestly. Don't. Fucking. Care.

[Jeremey]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Wal Mart approached Journey to do rerecords while Augeri was still in the band. Some in the Journey camp were worried that with JSS in the band things may not work out. However, I was told by people IN THE BAND that JSS and Journey did perform a concert with greatest hits for people in the Wal Mart camp and they were still going to move forward with the idea. Neal definitely wanted to make the CD a package of rerecords with a few new songs on it. At the time I was with (around) Journey, there was still uncertainty about the idea because the band knew WM would want video promotion of the package, and everyone from management down to the band itself was worried that Steve Perry would not sign off on allowing video promotion of the disc. During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords. I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs. After I was pretty much on the outs with Journey, Jonathan and Neal continued to write new songs, and the concept became a new CD with a double edition of straight up rerecords to make the suits at WM happy.

And that's the fucking truth.

Ok Jeremey. That's an enlightenment. Thanks. Oh, in case you're interested, I'm a Journey tribute guy, too.

Rockindeano: I really don't give a shit what you think of me, because you don't know me or what goes on in my life that makes Journey important to me. So if you'd like to add anything, I suggest you save it. Because I honestly. Don't. Fucking. Care.

Awesome man, do what you do and have fun with it. But understand you're a young enough guy not to be pigeon holed with it, and try to make your own way in the world so to speak. When I was 17 and writing original music, people kept telling me I sounded just like Steve Perry, and I didn't even know anything about the guy except what I heard on classic rock radio. I got into this at my age to make a living making music, because at 36 there weren't a whole lot of options open to me. At your age, you need to still find that niche and grab a screwdriver and work the fuckin shit out of it, until there's nothing left. At that point, decide who you are. Are you a born entertainer? Do you have what it takes to give the rest of your life to it? Because it's a world of fuckin shit, except the 2 hours you're on stage. I haven't heard you, and you may be the second coming of Steve Perry. But believe me kid, Steve Perry in 2010 wouldn't get a gig in Tulsa peddling "Lights," so you gotta look around you and make the best you can out of who you are.

Wow. Did that sound fucked up and bitter? Sorry dude, LOL.

[kgdjpubs]

I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs.

now that would have been interesting, especially with the Journey harmonies. Not saying all the songs would work in that format, but I can think of several that would shine. Maybe it will happen one day, either recorded or an acoustic mid-show segment. It would be a nice change-up, and something cool if the right arrangements were found.

[Jeremey]

I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs.

now that would have been interesting, especially with the Journey harmonies. Not saying all the songs would work in that format, but I can think of several that would shine. Maybe it will happen one day, either recorded or an acoustic mid-show segment. It would be a nice change-up, and something cool if the right arrangements were found.

LOL, I still remember the look on Jonathan's face when he said, "Yeah, we could do whatever you want to do!"

[kgdjpubs]

But believe me kid, Steve Perry in 2010 wouldn't get a gig in Tulsa peddling "Lights," so you gotta look around you and make the best you can out of who you are.

quite sadly, that is very true of the music business today. Singers are a dime a dozen--and there is auto-tune and pro-tools if you are vocally challenged. Someone like Bob Dylan is probably proof that being able to sing wasn't a requirement even back then, but it's even less of one now.

The male tenor isn't all that required in the industry these days, but all things tend to come in circles. Be proud of your influences, and wear them on your sleeve if you want to, but you HAVE to have that bit of originality, and specifically marketability if you want to succeed. The days of someone like Roy Orbison with a voice to die for an the stage presence of a brick wall are long gone. Without the "it" factor, good luck unless you are (or are friends with) one amazing songwriter and want to slog it on the indie route. Best of luck.

And we now return to our previously scheduled Journey forum brawl already in progress...

[Jeremey]

But believe me kid, Steve Perry in 2010 wouldn't get a gig in Tulsa peddling "Lights," so you gotta look around you and make the best you can out of who you are.

quite sadly, that is very true of the music business today. Singers are a dime a dozen--and there is auto-tune and pro-tools if you are vocally challenged. Someone like Bob Dylan is probably proof that being able to sing wasn't a requirement even back then, but it's even less of one now.

The male tenor isn't all that required in the industry these days, but all things tend to come in circles. Be proud of your influences, and wear them on your sleeve if you want to, but you HAVE to have that bit of originality, and specifically marketability if you want to succeed. The days of someone like Roy Orbison with a voice to die for an the stage presence of a brick wall are long gone. Without the "it" factor, good luck unless you are (or are friends with) one amazing songwriter and want to slog it on the indie route. Best of luck.

And we now return to our previously scheduled Journey forum brawl already in progress...

Goddamn I miss Roy Orbison. Kevin, will you please come to our show at Amos' next month?

[kgdjpubs]

Goddamn I miss Roy Orbison. Kevin, will you please come to our show at Amos' next month?

if it wasn't a 10PM show 3hrs away, it might be possible. Being in Raleigh, that drive that late at night is just ugly.

[Jeremey]

Goddamn I miss Roy Orbison. Kevin, will you please come to our show at Amos' next month?

if it wasn't a 10PM show 3hrs away, it might be possible. Being in Raleigh, that drive that late at night is just ugly.

LOL...well when we're in Raleigh, you should know that I'll buy you a beer.

[Infinity Vocalist 2010]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Wal Mart approached Journey to do rerecords while Augeri was still in the band. Some in the Journey camp were worried that with JSS in the band things may not work out. However, I was told by people IN THE BAND that JSS and Journey did perform a concert with greatest hits for people in the Wal Mart camp and they were still going to move forward with the idea. Neal definitely wanted to make the CD a package of rerecords with a few new songs on it. At the time I was with (around) Journey, there was still uncertainty about the idea because the band knew WM would want video promotion of the package, and everyone from management down to the band itself was worried that Steve Perry would not sign off on allowing video promotion of the disc. During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords. I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs. After I was pretty much on the outs with Journey, Jonathan and Neal continued to write new songs, and the concept became a new CD with a double edition of straight up rerecords to make the suits at WM happy.

And that's the fucking truth.

Ok Jeremey. That's an enlightenment. Thanks. Oh, in case you're interested, I'm a Journey tribute guy, too.

Rockindeano: I really don't give a shit what you think of me, because you don't know me or what goes on in my life that makes Journey important to me. So if you'd like to add anything, I suggest you save it. Because I honestly. Don't. Fucking. Care.

Awesome man, do what you do and have fun with it. But understand you're a young enough guy not to be pigeon holed with it, and try to make your own way in the world so to speak. When I was 17 and writing original music, people kept telling me I sounded just like Steve Perry, and I didn't even know anything about the guy except what I heard on classic rock radio. I got into this at my age to make a living making music, because at 36 there weren't a whole lot of options open to me. At your age, you need to still find that niche and grab a screwdriver and work the fuckin shit out of it, until there's nothing left. At that point, decide who you are. Are you a born entertainer? Do you have what it takes to give the rest of your life to it? Because it's a world of fuckin shit, except the 2 hours you're on stage. I haven't heard you, and you may be the second coming of Steve Perry. But believe me kid, Steve Perry in 2010 wouldn't get a gig in Tulsa peddling "Lights," so you gotta look around you and make the best you can out of who you are.

Wow. Did that sound fucked up and bitter? Sorry dude, LOL.

I get everything you mean, Jeremey. I am a songwriter myself, and I try my best to keep things fresh and original. Stage performances are fun, and I know what a tour is like. Gruelling. My band isn't straight Journey tribute fuzz, we only offer the tribute to special events like fairs, Canadad day, etc. Te rest is a blend of alot of the same era, with some choice modern stuff. My orignal songs are, well, a long work in progress, as having no know-how to compose it myself, it's a little difficult to get my vision of the song realized. My guitartist, however comes with some good licks and riffs that I'm sold on. My only true talent is writing a song from the heart and then singing that or something like Journey the same way. Journey just comes easy to me in the sense of making the audience believe every word of it. But, I don't really know if I can be compared to The Voice. He's too untouchable, only you have come very close to it. My dad is the only guy who thinks I sound like Perry (and he digs your pipes, btw), the only other guy I am acquainted with that has a great similarity is Ernie Shepherd. (I kinda have a Facebook circle between him, he was in Trial By Fire, and John Murphy from Evolution). Anyways, I can only do my thing and show you and everyone else the videos and let the viewers decide if I have the chops for something more than just covers and tribute acts, because I intend to record originals in the basement when they're ready.

and don't worry, you sound like an honest guy, not fucked up and bitter at all, though I know what it's like, what you're talking about.

[kgdjpubs]

Goddamn I miss Roy Orbison. Kevin, will you please come to our show at Amos' next month?

if it wasn't a 10PM show 3hrs away, it might be possible. Being in Raleigh, that drive that late at night is just ugly.

LOL...well when we're in Raleigh, you should know that I'll buy you a beer.

keep me posted. I could do with a good concert--Raleigh has been the concert-free zone this year. Hardly anybody worth seeing around here. Been to more free jazz shows around Winston-Salem (due to an uncle running sound) than anything else. Sad state of affairs.

[kgdjpubs]

Anyways, I can only do my thing and show you and everyone else the videos and let the viewers decide if I have the chops for something more than just covers and tribute acts, because I intend to record originals in the basement when they're ready.

if you can even do a moderately decent job of covering Perry on Journey tunes, you should be more than good enough for originals. Developing your own style that works for you on original material and getting the phrasing/emotion right is the hard part.

[Jeremey]

I get everything you mean, Jeremey. I am a songwriter myself, and I try my best to keep things fresh and original. Stage performances are fun, and I know what a tour is like. Gruelling. My band isn't straight Journey tribute fuzz, we only offer the tribute to special events like fairs, Canadad day, etc. Te rest is a blend of alot of the same era, with some choice modern stuff. My orignal songs are, well, a long work in progress, as having no know-how to compose it myself, it's a little difficult to get my vision of the song realized. My guitartist, however comes with some good licks and riffs that I'm sold on. My only true talent is writing a song from the heart and then singing that or something like Journey the same way. Journey just comes easy to me in the sense of making the audience believe every word of it. But, I don't really know if I can be compared to The Voice. He's too untouchable, only you have come very close to it. My dad is the only guy who thinks I sound like Perry (and he digs your pipes, btw), the only other guy I am acquainted with that has a great similarity is Ernie Shepherd. (I kinda have a Facebook circle between him, he was in Trial By Fire, and John Murphy from Evolution). Anyways, I can only do my thing and show you and everyone else the videos and let the viewers decide if I have the chops for something more than just covers and tribute acts, because I intend to record originals in the basement when they're ready.

and don't worry, you sound like an honest guy, not fucked up and bitter at all, though I know what it's like, what you're talking about.

You get it, bro. Have fun!!!

[steveo777]

It's kind of fun seeing Deano hit the guy right in the ass cheeks with both barrels and not see him drop his shitty drawers and run off into the woods with his shit smeared ass cheeks glowing in the moonlight.

[journeyrock]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Wal Mart approached Journey to do rerecords while Augeri was still in the band. Some in the Journey camp were worried that with JSS in the band things may not work out. However, I was told by people IN THE BAND that JSS and Journey did perform a concert with greatest hits for people in the Wal Mart camp and they were still going to move forward with the idea. Neal definitely wanted to make the CD a package of rerecords with a few new songs on it. At the time I was with (around) Journey, there was still uncertainty about the idea because the band knew WM would want video promotion of the package, and everyone from management down to the band itself was worried that Steve Perry would not sign off on allowing video promotion of the disc. During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords. I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs. After I was pretty much on the outs with Journey, Jonathan and Neal continued to write new songs, and the concept became a new CD with a double edition of straight up rerecords to make the suits at WM happy.

And that's the fucking truth.

Thank you Jeremey, for the explanation. It's refreshing to hear what really goes on once in a while. I guess that I wasn't that far off in my speculation of why the Re-records took place then. I don't know Neal personally, but it doesn't take rocket science to figure him out.

[Saint John]

Thank you Jeremey, for the explanation. It's refreshing to hear what really goes on once in a while. I guess that I wasn't that far off in my speculation of why the Re-records took place then. I don't know Neal personally, but it doesn't take rocket science to figure him out.

The re-records were a must, per Walmart. What Neal added to the mix was what Jeremey later said, "During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords."

[journeyrock]

Thank you Jeremey, for the explanation. It's refreshing to hear what really goes on once in a while. I guess that I wasn't that far off in my speculation of why the Re-records took place then. I don't know Neal personally, but it doesn't take rocket science to figure him out.

The re-records were a must, per Walmart. What Neal added to the mix was what Jeremey later said, "During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords."

I think I have about the same attitude about Neal as you do about Espee, SJ, go with it.

[Saint John]

Thank you Jeremey, for the explanation. It's refreshing to hear what really goes on once in a while. I guess that I wasn't that far off in my speculation of why the Re-records took place then. I don't know Neal personally, but it doesn't take rocket science to figure him out.

The re-records were a must, per Walmart. What Neal added to the mix was what Jeremey later said, "During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords."

I think I have about the same attitude about Neal as you do about Espee, SJ, go with it.

That he's the best ever??? Cool, we're in agreement! I'll go see Neal next year and you go see Nostrildamus. Let me know how that works out for you!

[journeyrock]

Thank you Jeremey, for the explanation. It's refreshing to hear what really goes on once in a while. I guess that I wasn't that far off in my speculation of why the Re-records took place then. I don't know Neal personally, but it doesn't take rocket science to figure him out.

The re-records were a must, per Walmart. What Neal added to the mix was what Jeremey later said, "During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords."

I think I have about the same attitude about Neal as you do about Espee, SJ, go with it.

That he's the best ever??? Cool, we're in agreement! I'll go see Neal next year and you go see Nostrildamus. Let me know how that works out for you!

Hey, don't get me wrong, I think Neal is the #1 best guitar player there is, I LOVE his playing, but I can't stand what I know OF him as a person and the way he portrays himself.

We ARE in agreement because there never was before nor will there ever be a band again (IMHO) with the extreme talent that Journey had when Nostrildamus was in the band. And not just because of SP, but everyone shined on their own. Every aspect of that band was untouchable.

Because I'm a loon, I would drop everything to go see Nostril if given a chance. Unfortunately, I don't have high hopes on that one coming to fruition. I'd love to go see Neal solo, but not with Journey. That's just my choice.

[Saint John]

I can respect that.

[jestor92]

What are y'alls thoughts on the re-recording of the Augeri songs on the album?

Personally I enjoyed the Augeri version of Faith In the Heartland, I've only heard the other song once sung by Arnie so I can't comment on that.

[Tomulator]

You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

I have no clue about the inner workings of the business/band ...those re's just made me feel
like the coffin was now sealed!!

Perfectly stated MG.

Agree 1000%

[Rockindeano]

What are y'alls thoughts on the re-recording of the Augeri songs on the album?

Personally I enjoyed the Augeri version of Faith In the Heartland, I've only heard the other song once sung by Arnie so I can't comment on that.

No way can Augeri sing the Journey catalog. Sorry, but his voice is not back and it is never coming back. It was barely passable when he was fresh. No, he didn't suck, but he struggled with the songs from day one. I only want to hear the Augeri remakes to hear how awful it will sound. I bet he will have it down to a silent whisper, ducking each and every tough or semi tough note. Not an Augeri hater either, just being honest. Those of you who say he is back, well, you are wrong.

[Tomulator]

I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs.

now that would have been interesting, especially with the Journey harmonies. Not saying all the songs would work in that format, but I can think of several that would shine. Maybe it will happen one day, either recorded or an acoustic mid-show segment. It would be a nice change-up, and something cool if the right arrangements were found.

Yeah it could work...if Perry himself does the new versions.

You must have THE VOICE sing those songs, IMO.

[The_Noble_Cause]

What are y'alls thoughts on the re-recording of the Augeri songs on the album?

Kevin Shirley has done some cool stuff with the arrangements of both the re-done FITH and TPIYH. I like the Arnel version of TPIYH better than the Augeri one. Sounds more modern. But the Augeri-sung FITH still reigns. It's more guitar driven, whereas the Revelation version is keyboard driven. Augeri delivers a more powerful vocal as well.

I only want to hear the Augeri remakes to hear how awful it will sound.

For all intents and purposes, the 2001 dvd IS the Augeri remakes. As you well know, other studio tracks (i.e. Edge of the Blade, Chain Reaction, When You Love A Woman) were played throughout the lipgate tour and sounded very good.

[jestor92]

What are y'alls thoughts on the re-recording of the Augeri songs on the album?

Personally I enjoyed the Augeri version of Faith In the Heartland, I've only heard the other song once sung by Arnie so I can't comment on that.

No way can Augeri sing the Journey catalog. Sorry, but his voice is not back and it is never coming back. It was barely passable when he was fresh. No, he didn't suck, but he struggled with the songs from day one. I only want to hear the Augeri remakes to hear how awful it will sound. I bet he will have it down to a silent whisper, ducking each and every tough or semi tough note. Not an Augeri hater either, just being honest. Those of you who say he is back, well, you are wrong.

Personally I don't care in general for re-recordings of any kind. To me it's just the current incarnation of the bands trying to push a few more cds out to unsuspecting consumers who might see something like Revelation and see new music plus a GH cd. The only thing is instead of getting the GH songs they know they get songs that aren't up to par with the originals.

I find it funny how we've had this whole topic of discussion on the re-recording of the classic Perry songs, yet the new matierial for Revelation relies on 2/13 tracks being written and released from another Journey album and there isn't any discussions as to what versions are better.

[lights1961]

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.

Wal Mart approached Journey to do rerecords while Augeri was still in the band. Some in the Journey camp were worried that with JSS in the band things may not work out. However, I was told by people IN THE BAND that JSS and Journey did perform a concert with greatest hits for people in the Wal Mart camp and they were still going to move forward with the idea. Neal definitely wanted to make the CD a package of rerecords with a few new songs on it. At the time I was with (around) Journey, there was still uncertainty about the idea because the band knew WM would want video promotion of the package, and everyone from management down to the band itself was worried that Steve Perry would not sign off on allowing video promotion of the disc. During the time I was still involved with the band, Neal was pushing to do a CD of original material along with the rerecords. I was pushing Jonathan to do a disc of rearrangements, acoustic style arrangements, different ways of presenting the songs. After I was pretty much on the outs with Journey, Jonathan and Neal continued to write new songs, and the concept became a new CD with a double edition of straight up rerecords to make the suits at WM happy.

And that's the fucking truth.

besides accustic version, a symphony version of songs could have been incredible... and remember the 2002 tour they brought out liberty and TBF for their **accustic set**part of the show pretty damn amazing...

[The_Noble_Cause]

...and there isn't any discussions as to what versions are better.

The topic has been discussed on the forum before.

[kgdjpubs]

Personally I don't care in general for re-recordings of any kind. To me it's just the current incarnation of the bands trying to push a few more cds out to unsuspecting consumers who might see something like Revelation and see new music plus a GH cd. The only thing is instead of getting the GH songs they know they get songs that aren't up to par with the originals.

I don't think the general customer cares one way or the other. Otherwise, the Glee cds, which are poor recordings of the songs done by people who had no association with them whatsoever in the first place, wouldn't sell at all. If the average listener can't tell the difference between Perry, Augeri, Arnel and whoever, I don't think they would care one way or the other if an Arnel version came on the radio instead of the tried-and-true Perry original.

I find it funny how we've had this whole topic of discussion on the re-recording of the classic Perry songs, yet the new matierial for Revelation relies on 2/13 tracks being written and released from another Journey album and there isn't any discussions as to what versions are better.

The honest answer as I see it is that people don't care about the non-Perry songs. If it wasn't recorded by Perry, it doesn't matter. One could make the honest debate that the Perry versions of some of the Infinity material (Anytime, Winds of March, Wheel in the Sky?) are cover versions as Journey was playing them live with Robert Fleischman on vocals before Perry was even part of the picture.

The re-recording of Place in Your Heart might be a bit better, but I agree with other than the raw energy of the Augeri Faith in the Heartland wasn't matched.


I've seen a few covers that are better than the original, some that are average, and some that do a pretty good job of ruining what was a good song. For a lot of people here though, it's simply a travesty to touch the original songs. The way I see it is that the original recordings didn't go anywhere. It's no more a travesty to redo a recording substituting Arnel for Perry than it is to remix and remaster the songs--they were recorded in a certain way on purpose. If you change that, you are changing the original vision of the songs. I refuse to get worked up about it, but it seems most do exactly that if Perry was involved.