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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:07 pm

S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...
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Postby S2M » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:09 pm

Jeremey wrote:LOL, Karaoke singer? To 100,000 people and over $500,000 a year in gross revenue? Try again douchebag. I have a platinum record on my wall.Go back to your cubicle and continue high-fiving those assholes who think their clever enough to reduce the life of an 18 or 25 year old to a political soundbite. You fuckin piece of shit.


So does Rick Dees....your point?
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:10 pm

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Why? Should I sugarcoat my opinions? Stay PC? Nope...sorry. And while my opinion may be in the minority, I'm going to voice it. I don't think I was rude, tactless, or otherwise unprofessional in my relaying of said opinion...the responses, on the other hand, have been juvenile, ad hominem, and frankly - insult-laden garbage, borne from emotion - not logic.


Just what you wanted, right, Stockton2Malone?! LOL....I'm going to voice something controversial and silly just to stir things up, LOL! Well I know PLENTY of fuckin people that are putting their lives in harms way every day and it makes it a little bit more real for people that aren't just sitting behind a keyboard jacking off with glee.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:11 pm

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Jeremey wrote:LOL, Karaoke singer? To 100,000 people and over $500,000 a year in gross revenue? Try again douchebag. I have a platinum record on my wall.Go back to your cubicle and continue high-fiving those assholes who think their clever enough to reduce the life of an 18 or 25 year old to a political soundbite. You fuckin piece of shit.


So does Rick Dees....your point?


Ha ha, ah well, you got me there douchebag. But oh wait...This is a Journey forum right? Let me check....Yep. My platinum record says JOURNEY on it. Okay, thanks.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:14 pm

Hey asshole.

You can't win.

You thought you'd come on here with some off the cuff remark about our servicemen and women and back it up with your so called KP duty of a career, and I called you on it.

Let me let you in on a secret.

I'm fucked up. I am no holds barred. You can't win.
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Postby S2M » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:18 pm

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S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:19 pm

S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


Oh wow, maybe with a little hindsight, you may have realized it wasn't worth risking your ass? Well do us all a favor and have some respect for those without the benefit of hindsight, K?
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:22 pm

Jeremey wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


Oh wow, maybe with a little hindsight, you may have realized it wasn't worth risking your ass? Well do us all a favor and have some respect for those without the benefit of hindsight, K?


Make sure you have 911 set on your speed dial when you finally cut your head open from knocking it against the wall trying to have a sensible conversation with this asshole. Why even bother? Like you said, he is just seeking attention and stirring up the pot. However, comments such as he has made may bear no forgiveness by some here.
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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:22 pm

S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:25 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


Oh wow, maybe with a little hindsight, you may have realized it wasn't worth risking your ass? Well do us all a favor and have some respect for those without the benefit of hindsight, K?


Make sure you have 911 set on your speed dial when you finally cut your head open from knocking it against the wall trying to have a sensible conversation with this asshole. Why even bother? Like you said, he is just seeking attention and stirring up the pot. However, comments such as he has made may bear no forgiveness by some here.


Yeah, I always take anything anyone says here with a sense of humor. However, denigrating the very lives of people that truly thought they were serving for a purpose will never be forgiven unless a full retraction and apology is made.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:26 pm

fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.
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Postby S2M » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:30 pm

You know it's fucking sad that some of you people still don't get it....all I said was they didn't die for me. But I guess its Spin the wheel for sympathy time again....Vietnam vets couldn't get a fucking cup of coffee without dirty looks, but the Gulf War vets, and the Iraqi Freedom vets are revered like the second coming....personally, I think it is a tragedy these men and women lost their lives...I really do. And my venom is for the Cause, not the individual person...
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:32 pm

Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:37 pm

S2M wrote:You know it's fucking sad that some of you people still don't get it....all I said was they didn't die for me. But I guess its Spin the wheel for sympathy time again....Vietnam vets couldn't get a fucking cup of coffee without dirty looks, but the Gulf War vets, and the Iraqi Freedom vets are revered like the second coming....personally, I think it is a tragedy these men and women lost their lives...I really do. And my venom is for the Cause, not the individual person...


They didn't die for you personally, Mr Stockton To Malone? You mean they didn't grab a pen and sign an release form saying "I, John Smith, am going to die for some douchebag in Wisconsin who thinks because he served 6 years as a mechanic in the reserves, may then live free, or shall I die, besmirch me on the internet for all my family and friends to see?" Because the post I read, the post that sent me off with "guns blazin'" was that you thought nobody died for YOU, sir, as in nobody jumped in front of an ice cream truck to save your mama from being run over. Sympathy? No. It's called respect, fuckhead. Something that apparently wasn't pounded into you during boot camp or any other time you allegedly served. Attend many blanket parties asshole? I would think you'd be the guest of honor.
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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:50 pm

Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.


I'm kinda sorry I poked my nose into this thread but I want to say something to your statement: You're right there is no draft and people do join mostly with the best of intentions, however, a lot of young people join for financial reasons. I'm not pawning off anything--a lot of American wars were planned and carried out by old, white, rich men. That's the truth. One of them was horribly ridden by guilt for VietNam--Robert McNamara.

This is way too depressing--ta ta.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:51 pm

S2M wrote:You know it's fucking sad that some of you people still don't get it....all I said was they didn't die for me. But I guess its Spin the wheel for sympathy time again....Vietnam vets couldn't get a fucking cup of coffee without dirty looks, but the Gulf War vets, and the Iraqi Freedom vets are revered like the second coming....personally, I think it is a tragedy these men and women lost their lives...I really do. And my venom is for the Cause, not the individual person...


No, what's sad is you are spinning so fast you look like a fucking top. You are backpedaling with diversionary remarks, intending to shift focus away from the complete garbage you muttred and believe me, there is NO defending what you originally said. For someone who claims himself as smart, and logical, again, that was the worst thing I have ever read by anyone on the internet. I just cannot get my head around the callous comments, and frankly, I hope you lose a ton of respect around here. The people who are your friends here, aren't going to run by your side now, at least I would be surprised if they did. Time will tell I guess. Jeremey said it awhile back- the only way you can escape this quandary you created for your attention starved self, is to apologize and mean it, but something tells me you are in way too deep to do that now and still save face. You're just a horrible person.

And as for you serving, bullshit. Until you can tell us your division and company, MOS and where you served basic training, I reserve the right to call you a fucking liar. Maybe, maybe you served, but any soldier who did serve, even if they didn't particularly like it, would never call out his brothers and sisters of the US military. It's an everlasting fraternity, solid to the core.
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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:52 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.


Dang, I wouldn't bring up Pat Tillman here. Talk about dying for nothing...
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:55 pm

fredinator wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.


Dang, I wouldn't bring up Pat Tillman here. Talk about dying for nothing...


Pat Tillman died for nothing? He was in Afghanistan, home of the very terroristic organization that struck us on our own soil. Afghanistan is a just cause. Pat Tillman died for nothing? Wow. And you are allowed to vote? Jesus Christ, no wonder this nation is circling the drain. My God, Pat Tillman died for nothing? Too much.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:59 pm

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I'm kinda sorry I poked my nose into this thread but I want to say something to your statement: You're right there is no draft and people do join mostly with the best of intentions, however, a lot of young people join for financial reasons. I'm not pawning off anything--a lot of American wars were planned and carried out by old, white, rich men. That's the truth. One of them was horribly ridden by guilt for VietNam--Robert McNamara.

This is way too depressing--ta ta.


Hey bro....They joined for financial reasons? In the midst of the nation's declared war on terror? And they thought they could just get by servicing jet engines or making coffee? Go meet a few people on the inside and then come away with a little more knowledge.
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Postby StephenWJ » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:01 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
fredinator wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.


Dang, I wouldn't bring up Pat Tillman here. Talk about dying for nothing...


Pat Tillman died for nothing? He was in Afghanistan, home of the very terroristic organization that struck us on our own soil. Afghanistan is a just cause. Pat Tillman died for nothing? Wow. And you are allowed to vote? Jesus Christ, no wonder this nation is circling the drain. My God, Pat Tillman died for nothing? Too much.


The biggest tragedy of the whole Tillman situation apart from the obvious is that it really showed what the war machine will do to use spin to control a nation. This is why people have free reign to hate the government as much as they want, but, don't drag the service men and women into it who ARE putting their lives on the line for each and every one of us, Including me, and i'm a damn foreign immigrant AND a liberal :)
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:04 pm

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The biggest tragedy of the whole Tillman situation apart from the obvious is that it really showed what the war machine will do to use spin to control a nation. This is why people have free reign to hate the government as much as they want, but, don't drag the service men and women into it who ARE putting their lives on the line for each and every one of us, Including me, and i'm a flaming homosexual who likes spacedocking. :)


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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
fredinator wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.


Dang, I wouldn't bring up Pat Tillman here. Talk about dying for nothing...


Pat Tillman died for nothing? He was in Afghanistan, home of the very terroristic organization that struck us on our own soil. Afghanistan is a just cause. Pat Tillman died for nothing? Wow. And you are allowed to vote? Jesus Christ, no wonder this nation is circling the drain. My God, Pat Tillman died for nothing? Too much.


He shouldn't have fucking died, you fucking idiot! And don't lecture me about fucking Afghanistan! My son served there twice so go to hell!
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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:

I'm kinda sorry I poked my nose into this thread but I want to say something to your statement: You're right there is no draft and people do join mostly with the best of intentions, however, a lot of young people join for financial reasons. I'm not pawning off anything--a lot of American wars were planned and carried out by old, white, rich men. That's the truth. One of them was horribly ridden by guilt for VietNam--Robert McNamara.

This is way too depressing--ta ta.


Hey bro....They joined for financial reasons? In the midst of the nation's declared war on terror? And they thought they could just get by servicing jet engines or making coffee? Go meet a few people on the inside and then come away with a little more knowledge.


You are an idiot, too, plus you're drunk by your own account. Go to hell.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:07 pm

fredinator wrote:
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fredinator wrote:
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Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.


Dang, I wouldn't bring up Pat Tillman here. Talk about dying for nothing...


Pat Tillman died for nothing? He was in Afghanistan, home of the very terroristic organization that struck us on our own soil. Afghanistan is a just cause. Pat Tillman died for nothing? Wow. And you are allowed to vote? Jesus Christ, no wonder this nation is circling the drain. My God, Pat Tillman died for nothing? Too much.


He shouldn't have fucking died, you fucking idiot! And don't lecture me about fucking Afghanistan! My son served there twice so go to hell!


You missed my entire point you ditz. YOU said "Pat Tillman died for nothing." To which I responded to in kind. You should have explained yourself, and elaborated your point(friendly fire death, US coverup, etc. It wasn't my fault your post was not clear and succint. If anyone here is the idiot, it is you. YOU go to Hell.
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Postby StephenWJ » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:07 pm

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The biggest tragedy of the whole Tillman situation apart from the obvious is that it really showed what the war machine will do to use spin to control a nation. This is why people have free reign to hate the government as much as they want, but, don't drag the service men and women into it who ARE putting their lives on the line for each and every one of us, Including me, and i'm a flaming homosexual who likes spacedocking. :)


Truer words were never said.


Douche! You will pay!
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:07 pm

fredinator wrote:You are an idiot, too, plus you're drunk by your own account. Go to hell.


I may be drunk, but an idiot? LOL....you have no idea what you are talking about. And oh yeah, I've been to hell. They don't like queers. So fuck off.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:08 pm

Ferdinator, you want some?

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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:08 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
fredinator wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
fredinator wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:
fredinator wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm sure to get a load of shit for this, but none of those servicemen gaves their lives for me, or any other citizen of this country....the last individuals who gave their lives for this country died in Pearl Harbor....unless there is a DIRECT threat on U.S. soil - no one can claim the giving of one's life for me.

Although it is very sad that they died at that young age... :(


I gotta ask S2M why you served? I don't mean it in a flaming way, just curious. My dad joined the army out of patriotism to his country because of Pearl Harbor; Korea and VietNam--not so sure about that...


With all due respect, why I enlisted is my own business...I WILL say, though, that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't join...


You're right--I shouldn't have pried. Sorry about that. I also completely agree about sending young people to do old men's(?) wars... Thanks for responding...


Yet again I have to ask....When did America reinstate the draft? These people did what they thought was right with the best intentions. They knew what they were getting into. And yet, somehow to pawn it off on a "rich man's war" is an easy excuse to denigrate the sacrifices these families made.

I'm still trying to figure out how the dude figures that folks anyone much less those who signed up right after the 9/11 attacks like Pat Tillman didn't give their lives for this country and those who died and the families of 9/11. Dude's a nutj job. Doesn't believe we landed on the moon.


Dang, I wouldn't bring up Pat Tillman here. Talk about dying for nothing...


Pat Tillman died for nothing? He was in Afghanistan, home of the very terroristic organization that struck us on our own soil. Afghanistan is a just cause. Pat Tillman died for nothing? Wow. And you are allowed to vote? Jesus Christ, no wonder this nation is circling the drain. My God, Pat Tillman died for nothing? Too much.


He shouldn't have fucking died, you fucking idiot! And don't lecture me about fucking Afghanistan! My son served there twice so go to hell!


You missed my entire point you ditz. YOU said "Pat Tillman died for nothing." To which I responded to in kind. You should have explained yourself, and elaborated your point(friendly fire death, US coverup, etc. It wasn't my fault your post was not clear and succint. If anyone here is the idiot, it is you. YOU go to Hell.


I didn't miss shit. You sound like you either forgot or didn't know what happened to Pat Tillman. Go tell his family your feelings and then go to hell again.
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Postby fredinator » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:10 pm

Jeremey wrote:Ferdinator, you want some?

:twisted:


Fuck no. Not from you anyway. Go back to fighting with SM2. What do you know about the military anyway?
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:11 pm

fredinator wrote:I didn't miss shit. You sound like you either forgot or didn't know what happened to Pat Tillman. Go tell his family your feelings and then go to hell again.


Listen you dumb bitch, you DID miss the fucking point. Plus, you wrote a half assed post, explained absolutely nothing, and you don't capitalize Hell.

You go to Hell.
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