Augeri Somewhat Vindicated ?

[Liquid_Drummer]

I know enough about live sound, in ear monitor mixes and recording etc to tell you that there is NO WAY Neal didnt know. No fucking way. If tapes where used Neal knew as did everyone on that stage. I have not one time EVER heard of a band that does not have lead vox in their monitors or in ear. The vox ends up giving the other players FAR too many ques for them to be left out of the mix. Lucky for Neal and CO. most people have no clue about live sound/recording. Anyone that does can tell you the above it 99.9 percent true.

Any musicians here that practiced when your lead singer wasnt there ? Funny how much harder it is and how much you realized you feed off of them for ques. I dont care how long you have been playing the damn song. For every piece of the band to gel everyone needs to hear what everyone else is doing ALWAYS.

Piss poor, flat out lie.

SA on the other hand could have had a gun to his head. We may never know.

[Jana]

I know enough about live sound, in ear monitor mixes and recording etc to tell you that there is NO WAY Neal didnt know. No fucking way. If tapes where used Neal knew as did everyone on that stage. I have not one time EVER heard of a band that does not have lead vox in their monitors or in ear. The vox ends up giving the other players FAR too many ques for them to be left out of the mix. Lucky for Neal and CO. most people have no clue about live sound/recording. Anyone that does can tell you the above it 99.9 percent true.

Any musicians here that practiced when your lead singer wasnt there ? Funny how much harder it is and how much you realized you feed off of them for ques. I dont care how long you have been playing the damn song. For every piece of the band to gel everyone needs to hear what everyone else is doing ALWAYS.

Piss poor, flat out lie.

SA on the other hand could have had a gun to his head. We may never know.

I don't think anyone on MR for years has thought Neal didn't know, nor have I seen anyone argue that point. They all knew. No new revelation.

[Jeremey]

Well I could come in here being a dick and say I know who knew, why it was done, what was done to stop it, etc etc....But that doesn't serve any purpose.

Point is the band got off course and let themselves roll down a slippery slope. They fixed it and it was messy, but it was a messy problem to begin with. Who knew what really is irrelevant, isn't it?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well I could come in here being a dick and say I know who knew, why it was done, what was done to stop it, etc etc....But that doesn't serve any purpose.

Point is the band got off course and let themselves roll down a slippery slope. They fixed it and it was messy, but it was a messy problem to begin with. Who knew what really is irrelevant, isn't it?

J,
Do you know if they ever tried lowering the songs for SA, as they do currently for Arnel? I know they did it for JSS, who found that it made singing the dozen even more difficult.

[Jeremey]

Well I could come in here being a dick and say I know who knew, why it was done, what was done to stop it, etc etc....But that doesn't serve any purpose.

Point is the band got off course and let themselves roll down a slippery slope. They fixed it and it was messy, but it was a messy problem to begin with. Who knew what really is irrelevant, isn't it?

J,
Do you know if they ever tried lowering the songs for SA, as they do currently for Arnel? I know they did it for JSS, who found that it made singing the dozen even more difficult.

I don't know if they did or not. I know it was a fluid situation, using the lead vocal tracks, and there was never an out and out effort to change the way the show was done. I know Steve played many of the songs down a half step at his recent KY gig, though I think Lights was in standard and maybe a couple more. You can tell by looking at the setlists posted from the show. The ones that say "440" next to them mean standard tuning, which would mean the string players would have to change guitars....I assume they weren't changing tuning during the show.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don't know if they did or not. I know it was a fluid situation, using the lead vocal tracks, and there was never an out and out effort to change the way the show was done. I know Steve played many of the songs down a half step at his recent KY gig, though I think Lights was in standard and maybe a couple more. You can tell by looking at the setlists posted from the show. The ones that say "440" next to them mean standard tuning, which would mean the string players would have to change guitars....I assume they weren't changing tuning during the show.

Interesting. Thanks.

[Rockindeano]

Well I could come in here being a dick and say I know who knew, why it was done, what was done to stop it, etc etc....But that doesn't serve any purpose.

Point is the band got off course and let themselves roll down a slippery slope. They fixed it and it was messy, but it was a messy problem to begin with. Who knew what really is irrelevant, isn't it?

J,
Do you know if they ever tried lowering the songs for SA, as they do currently for Arnel? I know they did it for JSS, who found that it made singing the dozen even more difficult.

Hell no they didn't try to downtune the songs. The master cd, the one with all the RERECORDED HITS, was in the original key. How would SA sound singing PERFECTLY PITCHED in the original key, alongside Neal and Cain at lowered step? To insinuate they played down a half a key would mean they would need a new half step down master cd for Augeri. Rememebr, he could hardly hum a tune, let alone sing one when it got really bad.

[kgdjpubs]

Well I could come in here being a dick and say I know who knew, why it was done, what was done to stop it, etc etc....But that doesn't serve any purpose.

Point is the band got off course and let themselves roll down a slippery slope. They fixed it and it was messy, but it was a messy problem to begin with. Who knew what really is irrelevant, isn't it?

J,
Do you know if they ever tried lowering the songs for SA, as they do currently for Arnel? I know they did it for JSS, who found that it made singing the dozen even more difficult.

Hell no they didn't try to downtune the songs. The master cd, the one with all the RERECORDED HITS, was in the original key. How would SA sound singing PERFECTLY PITCHED in the original key, alongside Neal and Cain at lowered step? To insinuate they played down a half a key would mean they would need a new half step down master cd for Augeri. Rememebr, he could hardly hum a tune, let alone sing one when it got really bad.

you know, the guy wasn't quite as bad of a singer as you guys make him out to be. Certainly not Perry of Farnham-style pitch-perfect, but he could sing....and there were shows where he did quite well. Inconsistent live, but when he was on, he was on. In the later years, it became a problem (and the Generations tour with the hour-long buildup until Augeri could sing trashed his voice), but up until 2003 at least, he was generally very good live.