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Was this a swipe at Perry, or a compliment?

It's a swipe - Neal still has a huge grudge towards Steve Perry.
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It was a sincere compliment, and Neal was glad to see Steve helping the Giants out.
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Postby Don » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:02 am

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Neal's FB page is private so perhaps he doesn't necessarily mean for these comments to be hitting forums like this one.



Neal deleted my account as a friend but directed me to his fan page. My recent posts here are from the fan page and not from the private friend page.


I know where you got it Chubs. Someone posted it there after reading it on Neal's private page. I figured the stuff he puts on Journey's main board is public and the stuff on his FB page was just for him and his friends. That's all I'm saying. I'm probably wrong though as I don't know the man personally and like someone said, besides just giving us fodder to make fun of the guy, so it's no big deal. :lol:
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Postby Don » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:33 am

Now that I've thought about , I don't think I've listened to a complete Journey album in about six months. My fandom has really died a death of utter indifference so I'm going to try my best from here on out to stay clear of these band conversations if I can. Most of the time, I'm just chasing my own tail anyway. :D
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Postby portland » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:36 am

Don wrote:Now that I've thought about , I don't think I've listened to a complete Journey album in about six months. My fandom has really died a death of utter indifference so I'm going to try my best from here on out to stay clear of these band conversations if I can. Most of the time, I'm just chasing my own tail anyway. :D




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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:44 am

Don wrote:Now that I've thought about , I don't think I've listened to a complete Journey album in about six months. My fandom has really died a death of utter indifference so I'm going to try my best from here on out to stay clear of these band conversations if I can. Most of the time, I'm just chasing my own tail anyway. :D
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read from you ... if it's a joke, lol!!
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:30 am

Who really cares that Midge got loose, hit the sauce and took a swipe at Espee? LOL, he is just pissed no one is mentioning his name when they play DSB or Lights. Midge is having a real tough time seeing Perry in the spotlight. I think it's funny yo see Midge squirming around on his laptop.

You keep working on that Eastern influence album that no one is going to buy, Midge. You go tour South America where no one knows who the Hell you are. Loser. Remember, they don't have little theaters over there like they do here. You will probably be playing run down soccer fields and fruit markets. Enjoy.
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Postby Don » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:37 pm

Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:Now that I've thought about , I don't think I've listened to a complete Journey album in about six months. My fandom has really died a death of utter indifference so I'm going to try my best from here on out to stay clear of these band conversations if I can. Most of the time, I'm just chasing my own tail anyway. :D
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read from you ... if it's a joke, lol!!


I've said dumber things, I'm sure.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:19 pm

Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:Now that I've thought about , I don't think I've listened to a complete Journey album in about six months. My fandom has really died a death of utter indifference so I'm going to try my best from here on out to stay clear of these band conversations if I can. Most of the time, I'm just chasing my own tail anyway. :D
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read from you ... if it's a joke, lol!!


I've said dumber things, I'm sure.


When 2011 rolls around and the band is touring with a new album out, you'll talk. Maybe not in 2012, as we may not be here. :wink: :wink:
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Postby Don » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:28 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:Now that I've thought about , I don't think I've listened to a complete Journey album in about six months. My fandom has really died a death of utter indifference so I'm going to try my best from here on out to stay clear of these band conversations if I can. Most of the time, I'm just chasing my own tail anyway. :D
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read from you ... if it's a joke, lol!!


I've said dumber things, I'm sure.


When 2011 rolls around and the band is touring with a new album out, you'll talk. Maybe not in 2012, as we may not be here. :wink: :wink:


Maybe. If the album is decent enough. Touring the world isn't that impressive, is it? Mr Big and Night Ranger both sold out the Budakon the last few years but since it isn't in the states, it doesn't seem to mean squat to a lot of people around here.
If you're not going multi-platinum or getting your music played on the radio everyday. I don't see how you are magically elevated to king status. King of the plokkers, maybe? That's it. Neal is so enamoured with the praise he hears from the pinheads he'll fucking say anything. :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:40 pm

Don wrote: Neal is so enamoured with the praise he hears from the pinheads he'll fucking say anything. :lol:


He's also too stupid to know that all those fucking Plokkers don't give two shits about him. Hell, they don't care two shits about the band. They are in Arnel's corner only...to Hell with Journey.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:38 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
Don wrote: Neal is so enamoured with the praise he hears from the pinheads he'll fucking say anything. :lol:


He's also too stupid to know that all those fucking Plokkers don't give two shits about him. Hell, they don't care two shits about the band. They are in Arnel's corner only...to Hell with Journey.


Ouch! That, folks, is what you call a cyber kick in the balls, second only to "hey pal, your girlfriend is fucking around on you". :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Don » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:45 pm

I got nothing.
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Postby Vladan » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:34 pm

It's funny isn't it.

Journey release a new album, a tour to support it, and the hits on a website or of a thread is pretty standard, no mention anywhere, the masses don't ecknowledge their existence.

Steve Perry turns up to something completely unrelated, like a baseball game, wearing a baseball cap and all hell breaks lose, a lot more talk, buzz, hits everywhere, posts everywhere. pandamonium on the rise!

Steve doesn't have to do anything, and he's still more popular, it's crazy.
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Postby shaneslatts » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:46 pm

Vladan wrote:It's funny isn't it.

Journey release a new album, a tour to support it, and the hits on a website or of a thread is pretty standard, no mention anywhere, the masses don't ecknowledge their existence.

Steve Perry turns up to something completely unrelated, like a baseball game, wearing a baseball cap and all hell breaks lose, a lot more talk, buzz, hits everywhere, posts everywhere. pandamonium on the rise!

Steve doesn't have to do anything, and he's still more popular, it's crazy.


Bingorama!

Folks really like Steve Perry.... when it comes to the charisma factor, the beaked ones just ' got it '

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Postby CatEyes » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:34 pm

Monker wrote:Q. Why doesn't Neal Schon go trick or treating?

A. He can't because between ex-wives and lead singers, he has no more doors to knock on.


Now that is funny!!

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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:15 am

Neal's comments, while seemingly loaded with sarcasm,
really don't say anything different than what most of us feel.

Perry could sing on a stage or in public anytime he wants to but,
for whatever reason, has chosen not to and it has been very dissappointing
to many fans over the years. And Neal is included...
I'm sure that Neal would love nothing more than to have
Perry still fronting the band because he knows it is pretty much impossible
for Journey to have any relevance without him.

We don't know everything that went on in this break-up and, while
we like to guess and choose side, I'm sure each party involved has their reasons
for anger, animosity, and resentment.

I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years
and leave that stuff "within the band". No need to take it out publically...
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Postby Saint John » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:19 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years


Yeah, gag orders suppressing the truth, being paid as a full member of a band he refused to be an active part of (and never "felt like a part of") and touring only once, but with others, between 1987 and 1998 is a real "high road." :?
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:50 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Don wrote: Neal is so enamoured with the praise he hears from the pinheads he'll fucking say anything. :lol:


He's also too stupid to know that all those fucking Plokkers don't give two shits about him. Hell, they don't care two shits about the band. They are in Arnel's corner only...to Hell with Journey.
I tend to lean towards this ...and not in a hateful I think they're awful people kind of way,
but in a I'd like to hear what they have to say kind of way.
Because pinheads aren't the only people that support a specific lead singer!! :?
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Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:57 am

Saint John wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years


Yeah, gag orders suppressing the truth, being paid as a full member of a band he refused to be an active part of (and never "felt like a part of") and touring only once, but with others, between 1987 and 1998 is a real "high road." :?


Do you just cut and paste your responses?
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Postby portland » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:15 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years


Yeah, gag orders suppressing the truth, being paid as a full member of a band he refused to be an active part of (and never "felt like a part of") and touring only once, but with others, between 1987 and 1998 is a real "high road." :?


Do you just cut and paste your responses?


LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:40 am

portland wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years


Yeah, gag orders suppressing the truth, being paid as a full member of a band he refused to be an active part of (and never "felt like a part of") and touring only once, but with others, between 1987 and 1998 is a real "high road." :?


Do you just cut and paste your responses?


LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby Saint John » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:10 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years


Yeah, gag orders suppressing the truth, being paid as a full member of a band he refused to be an active part of (and never "felt like a part of") and touring only once, but with others, between 1987 and 1998 is a real "high road." :?


Do you just cut and paste your responses?


If that's your rebuttal or defense, it's pretty lame. I just can't see how anyone can justify the guy not touring, but being paid. It's deplorable and just as bad as Tapegate, except it's cheating the band and not the fans. You're getting paid but you're really not earning it.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:21 am

Saint John wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just wish Neal would take the high road like Perry has over the years


Yeah, gag orders suppressing the truth, being paid as a full member of a band he refused to be an active part of (and never "felt like a part of") and touring only once, but with others, between 1987 and 1998 is a real "high road." :?


Do you just cut and paste your responses?


If that's your rebuttal or defense, it's pretty lame. I just can't see how anyone can justify the guy not touring, but being paid. It's deplorable and just as bad as Tapegate, except it's cheating the band and not the fans. You're getting paid but you're really not earning it.


I guess I'm out of order. :wink: You just keep losing me with the 'touring with others.' Forget what happened afterwards with the TBF debacle...as we wouldn't have been up to this point yet. Journey at this point was defunct, everyone was doing their own thing (touring with others), he was doing his own thing. There was no Journey going on. Unless he's pulling off a one-man-band show, you gotta have musicians to support your tour...a tour for his solo career. And please don't cut and paste 'they weren't playing Journey music'.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:29 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
I guess I'm out of order. :wink: You just keep losing me with the 'touring with others.' Forget what happened afterwards with the TBF debacle...as we wouldn't have been up to this point yet. Journey at this point was defunct, everyone was doing their own thing (touring with others), he was doing his own thing. There was no Journey going on. Unless he's pulling off a one-man-band show, you gotta have musicians to support your tour...a tour for his solo career. And please don't cut and paste 'they weren't playing Journey music'.


Fair enough. But that begs the question why he wouldn't even so much as allow Jonathan Cain into his show for an explanation as to the state of Journey, but when the remainder of the Journey guys were ready to reform (since he wouldn't talk or communicate with them) he suddenly felt the itch to be back in the band. It sounds to me like he thought he could leave Journey, pursue this solo career and take all of the fans and notoriety with him ... and was wrong. And it killed him to see them reforming. So what's a guy, that has no desire and/or ability to tour anymore and doesn't want the band to move on without him, to do? I think that history has answered that question for us. :wink:
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Postby Don » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:31 am

Again, the band agreed to the settlement with Perry. Just because they were tired of the drama still doesn't justify giving into the guy, when the court had been shown to lean the other way in these types of disputes. The band took the easy way out with money. No one to blame but themselves. For people to continue to cry over it makes no sense. Neal Schon signed the dotted line. Mr. " I'm so tough, I've never lost a fight" gave in to Perry without a punch. Only the strong survive, the weak submit and life goes on.

They all made their own bed and got what they deserved based on who had the biggest balls, It's as simple as that. Looking at their peers, James Young and David Gilmour showed that they had more guts than Schon and Cain in this regard. Going to court didn't delay anything beyond a few months, Styx and Pink Floyd lost nothing and gained everything when they were in the same situation.

Hell, Journey didn't even have a lead singer at the time. They weren't being pressed for anything and definitely not by Sony after the first year.
Take the easy way out, you have to pay the price.

I know I'm repeating myself but shit, thank god I'll never have to sign a contract with any of you people! :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:35 am

Don wrote:Again, the band agreed to the settlement with Perry. Just because they were tired of the drama still doesn't justify giving into the guy, when the court had been shown to lean the other way in these types of disputes. The band took the easy way out with money. No one to blame but themselves. For people to continue to cry over it makes no sense. Neal Schon signed the dotted line. Mr. " I'm so tough, I've never lost a fight" gave in to Perry without a punch. Only the strong survive, the weak submit and life goes on.

They all made their own bed and got what they deserved based on who had the biggest balls, It's as simple as that. Looking at their peers, James Young and David Gilmour showed that they had more guts than Schon and Cain in this regard. Going to court didn't delay anything beyond a few months, Styx and Pink Floyd lost nothing and gained everything when they were in the same situation.

Hell, Journey didn't even have a lead singer at the time. They weren't being pressed for anything and definitely not by Sony after the first year.
Take the easy way out, you have to pay the price.

I know I'm repeating myself but shit, thank god I'll never have to sign a contract with any of you people! :lol:


All valid points, but it also sort of refutes the notion that Neal "is all about the money." It seems to me like he simply said, "Fuck it. Just give me my band back, pay that extorting motherfucker and let me get back on the road again so I can get some pussy!" :lol: :shock: Sounds to me like one guy values his passion for playing and the other guy views everything in dollars and cents. The trick would be the ability to have both ... and neither has that. :wink: Though, I think Schon right now, these days, is a lot closer than Perry.
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Postby Don » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:43 am

Saint John wrote:
Don wrote:Again, the band agreed to the settlement with Perry. Just because they were tired of the drama still doesn't justify giving into the guy, when the court had been shown to lean the other way in these types of disputes. The band took the easy way out with money. No one to blame but themselves. For people to continue to cry over it makes no sense. Neal Schon signed the dotted line. Mr. " I'm so tough, I've never lost a fight" gave in to Perry without a punch. Only the strong survive, the weak submit and life goes on.

They all made their own bed and got what they deserved based on who had the biggest balls, It's as simple as that. Looking at their peers, James Young and David Gilmour showed that they had more guts than Schon and Cain in this regard. Going to court didn't delay anything beyond a few months, Styx and Pink Floyd lost nothing and gained everything when they were in the same situation.

Hell, Journey didn't even have a lead singer at the time. They weren't being pressed for anything and definitely not by Sony after the first year.
Take the easy way out, you have to pay the price.

I know I'm repeating myself but shit, thank god I'll never have to sign a contract with any of you people! :lol:


All valid points, but it also sort of refutes the notion that Neal "is all about the money." It seems to me like he simply said, "Fuck it. Just give me my band back, pay that extorting motherfucker and let me get back on the road again so I can get some pussy!" :lol: :shock: Sounds to me like one guy values his passion for playing and the other guy views everything in dollars and cents. The trick would be the ability to have both ... and neither has that. :wink: Though, I think Schon right now, these days, is a lot closer than Perry.


I can believe that totally but the deed was done and they have to live with it, or had to live with it as it seems as all of that has expired concerning paying Perry any touring revenue.
The hard thing for Neal I'm sure is that Perry can disappear for years on end into obscurity yet once the band does something right, Steve gets to hop on the train and join in the success even though he hasn't contributed anything in over a decade. Unfortunately , that's the albatross Schon can't escape from until the band does something new that's so spectacular it overshadows their past accomplishments.
A little late in the game for that though. If Steve Augeri had been Sammy Hagar, perhaps but that window of re-invention has closed it seems.

Once you remove the money issue, their's no statute of limitations concerning gravy training off of past success for either side.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:48 am

Don wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Don wrote:Again, the band agreed to the settlement with Perry. Just because they were tired of the drama still doesn't justify giving into the guy, when the court had been shown to lean the other way in these types of disputes. The band took the easy way out with money. No one to blame but themselves. For people to continue to cry over it makes no sense. Neal Schon signed the dotted line. Mr. " I'm so tough, I've never lost a fight" gave in to Perry without a punch. Only the strong survive, the weak submit and life goes on.

They all made their own bed and got what they deserved based on who had the biggest balls, It's as simple as that. Looking at their peers, James Young and David Gilmour showed that they had more guts than Schon and Cain in this regard. Going to court didn't delay anything beyond a few months, Styx and Pink Floyd lost nothing and gained everything when they were in the same situation.

Hell, Journey didn't even have a lead singer at the time. They weren't being pressed for anything and definitely not by Sony after the first year.
Take the easy way out, you have to pay the price.

I know I'm repeating myself but shit, thank god I'll never have to sign a contract with any of you people! :lol:


All valid points, but it also sort of refutes the notion that Neal "is all about the money." It seems to me like he simply said, "Fuck it. Just give me my band back, pay that extorting motherfucker and let me get back on the road again so I can get some pussy!" :lol: :shock: Sounds to me like one guy values his passion for playing and the other guy views everything in dollars and cents. The trick would be the ability to have both ... and neither has that. :wink: Though, I think Schon right now, these days, is a lot closer than Perry.


I can believe that totally but the deed was done and they have to live with it, or had to live with it as it seems as all of that has expired concerning paying Perry any touring revenue.
The hard thing for Neal I'm sure is that Perry can disappear for years on end into obscurity yet once the band does something right, Steve gets to hop on the train and join in the success even though he hasn't contributed anything in over a decade. Unfortunately , that's the albatross Schon can't escape from until the band does something new that's so spectacular it overshadows their past accomplishments.
A little late in the game for that though. If Steve Augeri had been Sammy Hagar, perhaps but that window of re-invention has closed it seems.


Perry's been hopping on the success of the songs that he was involved with, particularly Don't Stop Believing. Nobody's using the re-recorded version, are they? The last big thing that the current band did that was huge was hiring Arnel via Youtube and having decent success with their Walmart gig. I don't recall Perry soaking up any of that limelight.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:03 am

Don wrote:I can believe that totally but the deed was done and they have to live with it, or had to live with it as it seems as all of that has expired concerning paying Perry any touring revenue.
The hard thing for Neal I'm sure is that Perry can disappear for years on end into obscurity yet once the band does something right, Steve gets to hop on the train and join in the success even though he hasn't contributed anything in over a decade. Unfortunately , that's the albatross Schon can't escape from until the band does something new that's so spectacular it overshadows their past accomplishments.
A little late in the game for that though. If Steve Augeri had been Sammy Hagar, perhaps but that window of re-invention has closed it seems.

Once you remove the money issue, their's no statute of limitations concerning gravy training off of past success for either side.
I'm not sure I understand, would you clarify?!? Yes, the bolded ...thank you ... :wink:
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Postby Don » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:06 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I can believe that totally but the deed was done and they have to live with it, or had to live with it as it seems as all of that has expired concerning paying Perry any touring revenue.
The hard thing for Neal I'm sure is that Perry can disappear for years on end into obscurity yet once the band does something right, Steve gets to hop on the train and join in the success even though he hasn't contributed anything in over a decade. Unfortunately , that's the albatross Schon can't escape from until the band does something new that's so spectacular it overshadows their past accomplishments.
A little late in the game for that though. If Steve Augeri had been Sammy Hagar, perhaps but that window of re-invention has closed it seems.

Once you remove the money issue, their's no statute of limitations concerning gravy training off of past success for either side.
I'm not sure I understand, would you clarify?!? Yes, the bolded ...thank you ... :wink:


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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:15 am

You litigous motherfuckers are arguing about this band like they were the biggest band in the world or something. Jesus Christ, they were on the downhill slope of things in 1986, and it was highly unlikely they were going to return to the top(or near there) ever again. At least Perry tried to reinvent a tired act and props to him for even recognizing this. Hell Neal and Friga still write songs that sound EXACTLY like the ones they wrote in 1992, and 1986, cough, cough. Oh but I guess they are scheming up a brilliant new idea featuring eastern Indian influences or some shit. :roll: I can't wait to hear neal picking his guitar and Friga playing a flute solo alongside of it, as Pineda mispronounces more words. This ought to just keep fans diligently tuned in.

My point is, they aren't the fucking Beatles, so why do some of you fight to the death in this shit for?
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