Are Songwriters Extinct?

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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:48 am

SF-Dano wrote:No reason why escapism/fluff type songs and political/current issue songs can't co-exist together. There is a time and place for each to my ears. :) And there is an art to writing simple heart felt lyrics. The Frig gets it right sometimes and sometimes he is off the mark and in the syrup to deep.


There is, also, a place for wonderfully crafted dance/club music.
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Postby brywool » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:10 am

yes they are extinct and so are real singers. They use robots now.
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Postby Kilaya » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:42 pm

I really like Jamie Cullum's song. His lyrics are different but honest. He is classified as Jazz but I think he could cross over easily. He is amazing on the piano too!

I could link so many songs of his I love but I will spare you. Here are 2

Photograph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKG6VbJH4to

I think I love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI2PB3qlTXI

On his last cd he did a cover of Rhiana Don't Stop the Music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhT7oCDoqM&feature=fvst
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Postby Don » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:46 am

Between the two of them collaborating together and their solo efforts, Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly have written some enduring hits.
These are just a few examples.


Heart
Alone

Pat Benatar
Fire And ice
Precious TIme
I'm Gonna Follow You

Madonna
Like A VIrgin

Whitney Houston
So Emotional

Cyndi Lauper
True Colors

Bangles
Eternal Flame


Pretenders
I'll Stand By You
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Postby hoagiepete » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:43 am

Dennis DeYoung actually had some decent lyrics on One Hundred Years from Now. No Babe crap at all. Title track and I Don't Believe in Anything are timely.
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Postby rockinfayrose » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:05 pm

Don wrote:Between the two of them collaborating together and their solo efforts, Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly have written some enduring hits.
These are just a few examples.


Heart
Alone

Pat Benatar
Fire And ice
Precious TIme
I'm Gonna Follow You

Madonna
Like A VIrgin

Whitney Houston
So Emotional

Cyndi Lauper
True Colors

Bangles
Eternal Flame


Pretenders
I'll Stand By You


Good songs yes, but how long ago were they written? Back in the 80's when the list of notable songs exceeded 5 :wink:
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:01 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Deb wrote:
Pelata wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
rockinfayrose wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:You fuckin fools.

Bruce Springsteen is the greatest songwriter of all time and you all choose to ignore it. Whatever. Go spin Revelation again and see just how good Jonathan Cain is. :roll:

Pretty soon, you stupid fuckers will admit I am right, despite your hate for Bruce.


Sure hope I'm not included as part of the "you fools" :? ...I think Springsteen is an amazing artist and no one has shown hate for him in this thread so far, so why so defensive Dean? :?


I have had it with these shallow fools and their love of Pop lyrics. Goddammit to Hell, what you people would do if a real artist sang about a current event? Would it kill you all to listen to a song made by someone who wrote about social relevance? Man, could Journey have been a special band, had they written about stuff that really mattered. Espee and Midge could have brought Rolling Stone around, and sang a song about something that mattered, not another fluffy love song that resonates to no one. Seriously, Journey lost it's way with not so importance, and I believe that if that they had, they would appear much more relevant today than they currently are seen. Seriously, I can write the lyrics Cain does......for a fraction of the price too.


"Social relevance"? You mean, like speaking a language everyone can understand? Writing about events and situations that everyone goes through or feels at some point in thier lives? Love? Loss? Pain? Joy? All those things seem pretty relevant to society.

"resonates to no one"? Well, if by "no one" you mean millions of people, then yeah...no one.

As much as I respect them, you can have your Springsteens, your Dylans, and whoever else decides to be some kind of political mirror lyrically. I'll take "Faithfully" over "Born In The USA" every day of the week and twice on Sunday.


BingO! To most people music is entertainment, passion, feeling. If I want to hear about politics, war, etc. I'll watch the news or read a book. Music is an escape from all that crap. When it comes to music, I don't want to have to think, I wanna feel.


I am not talking about having to listen to Bono talk on stage about the wars or anything. I am talking about music that tells the listener something. Born in the USA was only one of a few songs off that album that was serious....that album IMO is one of his worst. Now take a song like the Rising, where the story of of 9/11 was told, and it grips you....combined with a great chorus and delivery, that is what I am talking about. And no, not every song has to be serious; far from it. Just saying it is nice to know the artist reads and is up to date on current events. Just saying "faded photographs" and "state of grace" gets real old, real fast.
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Postby TRAGChick » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:14 am

Are Songwriters Extinct?


Nope. :twisted:

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