Jimi Jamison - Firefest UK

[pjg]

Had the absolute pleasure of seeing Jimi live last night. This was the first time that he had played in the UK. Thought that he was superb, consumate frontman, high energy and has found a way of singing the songs in a slightly lower key at times which still conveys the energy and feeling of the song and certainly no complaints from me. Backing band was decent and all in all a great night and a special experience.

Setlist was:

Caught in the Game
It's the Singer not the Song
High on You
Is This Love
Didn't Know it was Love
I See You in Everyone
Dream Too Far (one of the few dissapointments of the night)
Crossroads Moment
Rebel Son
Burning Heart
I'm Always Here (the other one)
Eye of the Tiger

[Slander]

Had the absolute pleasure of seeing Jimi live last night. This was the first time that he had played in the UK. Thought that he was superb, consumate frontman, high energy and has found a way of singing the songs in a slightly lower key at times which still conveys the energy and feeling of the song and certainly no complaints from me. Backing band was decent and all in all a great night and a special experience.

Setlist was:

Caught in the Game
It's the Singer not the Song
High on You
Is This Love
Didn't Know it was Love
I See You in Everyone
Dream Too Far (one of the few dissapointments of the night)
Crossroads Moment
Rebel Son
Burning Heart
I'm Always Here (the other one)
Eye of the Tiger

Wow too bad not more stuff of Crossroads Moment.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

it was FANTASTIC! He had so much power and passion! His stage presence was mesmerizing!

yeah, I really liked it. I fully expected to but he really brought it all and I was absolutely blown away.

I was standing close enough to participate in a conversation where he asked something about the favorite song for the setlist. I said, 'Lost'. he said, really? yup, JJ, it's a good one. do it soon.

I would have liked to have heard more CM as well. But since it was his first time with this crowd, I guess everyone wanted to hear the 'hits'. the place was PACKED. EVERYONE sang every note-loudly. it was an amazing show. I have a few pics and a little video--I'll try to get those up here asap.

I disagree about the band-Tommy Denander had a guitar solo in one song--I think the 3rd one--that brought tears to my eyes. so beautiful. Jona was brilliant on all the keyboard parts--the guys from H.E.A.T. did a great job. And Magnus on drums? oh yeah. you can't do much better than that.

IMHO.

[bomes]

There are a lot of vids from this concert:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... efest&aq=f

[Joe Vana]

There are a lot of vids from this concert:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... efest&aq=f

I watched all the vids I can find...and...he sang WAYYYYYY better live than he did on CM (he did great on that as well)....time for JJ to do another CD....soon....

I was VERY impressed..and since TD my writing partner from Mecca was the guitarist I was very intrigued.....very nice....

JV

[Abitaman]

Watched some of the vids, WOW!! JJ has seems more confident of his self than he has in years...

[Eyeof]

Congrats to JJ for getting out there and getting it done, while others only talk!

You the man JJ!

[DavidWT]

I really hope JJ and JP team up again for another album soon. I love "Crossroads Moment." For me, it's the closest thing to a Survivor album I've heard since "Too Hot To Sleep" (though they should have scrapped "When Rock Was King"... sorry, but I can't stand that one.)

[Abitaman]

I really hope JJ and JP team up again for another album soon. I love "Crossroads Moment." For me, it's the closest thing to a Survivor album I've heard since "Too Hot To Sleep" (though they should have scrapped "When Rock Was King"... sorry, but I can't stand that one.)

Same here

[kgdjpubs]

I really hope JJ and JP team up again for another album soon. I love "Crossroads Moment." For me, it's the closest thing to a Survivor album I've heard since "Too Hot To Sleep" (though they should have scrapped "When Rock Was King"... sorry, but I can't stand that one.)

Same here

I'd also cut Bittersweet, She's Nothing to Me, As Is, keep Alive from the Euro bonus, and add Dream Higher. By cutting a few of the Pride of Lions-sounding songs, you end up with a pretty decent Survivor-ish album.

[DavidWT]

I really hope JJ and JP team up again for another album soon. I love "Crossroads Moment." For me, it's the closest thing to a Survivor album I've heard since "Too Hot To Sleep" (though they should have scrapped "When Rock Was King"... sorry, but I can't stand that one.)

Same here

I'd also cut Bittersweet, She's Nothing to Me, As Is, keep Alive from the Euro bonus, and add Dream Higher. By cutting a few of the Pride of Lions-sounding songs, you end up with a pretty decent Survivor-ish album.

Yeah, if they really wanted it to be a "Survivor" album, those songs would have to go, I guess. But I actually like "She's Nothing To Me," so I'm glad they included it. "As Is" may be a bit overly theatrical, but I still like it (hell, I'm a TSO fan, sometimes I go for that overly theatrical stuff.) "Alive" and "Bittersweet" could be scrapped and I wouldn't miss them.
I think CM is a fine example of how sometimes "less is more." There are lots of really good songs, but a bit of trimming could have made it an ever more solid album than it already is.

[MarcelJordan]

Congrats to JJ for getting out there and getting it done, while others only talk!

You the man JJ!

Strange though that he plays 9 Survivor songs out of 12. So 4 are not, and one of that is from the so called Survivor album with Dream Too Far. He should play more CM tunes. What's wrong with the playing more than one CM tune? After all he got that album released and yet we're back to Survivor tunes.

Rebel Son he co-wrote so I'll give him a break there.

MJ

[DavidWT]

Strange though that he plays 9 Survivor songs out of 12. So 4 are not, and one of that is from the so called Survivor album with Dream Too Far. He should play more CM tunes.

Agreed, but he probably knows (or at least assumes) that 90% of the audience still knows him best as "the guy from Survivor," and he thinks he'll be disappointing those people if he plays stuff from CM. Of course, it just becomes a cycle then-- people will ALWAYS know him best as the Survivor guy if he doesn't start playing more of his own stuff, so then he'll always have to play Survivor stuff. Personally, I think CM is a strong enough album where he could have easily played 6 or more songs from it, and even if the crowd didn't know the songs, they would like them, and it might even prompt them to go out and buy the album.

[Slander]

or at least assumes) that 90% of the audience still knows him best as "the guy from Survivor," and he thinks he'll be disappointing those people if he plays stuff from CM.

No problem with him singing some Survivor stuff but JJ should have the courage of his convictions and talents. CM is a solid effort and he has his own back catalog too!

[DavidWT]

or at least assumes) that 90% of the audience still knows him best as "the guy from Survivor," and he thinks he'll be disappointing those people if he plays stuff from CM.

No problem with him singing some Survivor stuff but JJ should have the courage of his convictions and talents. CM is a solid effort and he has his own back catalog too!

And when he does perform Survivor's music, it always seems odd to me that he chooses some of the Bickler material. I can sort of understand him doing "Can't Hold Back" or "The Search Is Over," etc, since he's the original singer and was involved in bringing those songs to life. But why does he tend to open his shows with "Caught In The Game", and close the shows with "Eye Of The Tiger"? He had nothing to do with those songs, nor does anyone in his band have anything to do with them. To me, it's about as relevant as opening the show with Piano Man and closing it with Every Breath You Take.

[Slander]

But why does he tend to open his shows with "Caught In The Game", and close the shows with "Eye Of The Tiger"? He had nothing to do with those songs, nor does anyone in his band have anything to do with them.

Couldn't agree more. EOTG and Caught in the game are abominations without Sullivan. I mean let's give FS some credit. The friggin solo alone in Caught In The Game coupled with Bicker's vocals make the damn song what it is. Yeah JJ singing it solo is a head scratcher.

[bulldog]

Jimi has been singing Eye Of The Tiger & Caught In The Game for 26 yrs. With or without the Survivor banner Jimi Jamison has kept these tunes alive via live shows . You have to give him credit for is performance . When Survivor was doing nothing he kept on playing and doing his best for himself out there . Jimi fronted Survivor at their peak all over the world and in different countries . He is regarded as the true voice of the band as far as the mainstream public is concerned.

I would really like to see a kick ass live cd from Jimi .


Frankie has to do what Mick Jones did . Get the band exposure . New live cd with re-recorded tunes and get them on itunes and give some away free . They have no merchandise for sale , no public communication with fans , and they have no promotion.

[Joe Vana]

[quote="bulldog"]:lol: Jimi has been singing Eye Of The Tiger & Caught In The Game for 26 yrs. He is regarded as the true voice of the band as far as the mainstream public is concerned.
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Their only WORLDWIDE HUGE smash was EOTT...sang by DAVE BICKLER....

The Version the world has heard millions and millions of times was sung by DAVE BICKLER.....

I love JJ too...but Dave singing I Can't Hold Back bothers me just as much...be consistant please...and accurate...I could care less how many times JJ did Tiger live...it is then, now and forever a DAVE BICKLER tune...

As far as the main stream public you would have to ask 200 people before they might be able to name a member of Survivor by name...and NO you can't ask somebody on this board hahahaha....

Not creating a war...please...

JV

[Journey/Survivor]

I did have a problem with Jimi calling his solo band "Survivor" back in the 90's. I even told him that at the time despite the fact that I often hung out with him and his band after shows at the time.

I have never had any problem with him performing Survivor songs, however. Just the same as I would not fault Dave, Jim or Frankie if any of them want to perform Survivor songs outside of the band. In one way it seems a little funny that Jimi does Caught In The Game with his solo band. But at the same time I freaking love the song and am glad that he does play it live. And even though he was not the original vocalist of Survivor, if your doing a set filled with Survivor songs, then you've gotta do Eye Of The Tiger too.

[Journey/Survivor]

:lol: Jimi has been singing Eye Of The Tiger & Caught In The Game for 26 yrs. He is regarded as the true voice of the band as far as the mainstream public is concerned.
quote]

Their only WORLDWIDE HUGE smash was EOTT...sang by DAVE BICKLER....

The Version the world has heard millions and millions of times was sung by DAVE BICKLER.....

I love JJ too...but Dave singing I Can't Hold Back bothers me just as much...be consistant please...and accurate...I could care less how many times JJ did Tiger live...it is then, now and forever a DAVE BICKLER tune...

As far as the main stream public you would have to ask 200 people before they might be able to name a member of Survivor by name...and NO you can't ask somebody on this board hahahaha....

Not creating a war...please...

I don't have any problem with Jimi singing Dave's Survivor songs, or with Dave singing Jimi's Survivor songs.
Now, if either of them were to try to mislead people into thinking that they were the original vocalist of songs that were in reality originated with the other singer, then I wouldn't agree with that at all.

JV

[Journey/Survivor]

Somethings been goofing up on here the last couple of days with the way it's posting when some of us quote another forum member.

[Journey/Survivor]

Their only WORLDWIDE HUGE smash was EOTT...sang by DAVE BICKLER....JV

While EOTT was clearly the biggest smash hit of all by Survivor, "Burning Heart" was pretty huge in it's own right. It reached #2 on the charts, and the only reason it didn't go to #1 was because it had to go against that big charity song "That's What Friends Are For" that was performed by a bunch of legendary singers. But "Burning Heart" was pretty damn huge.

And there were also....
"The Search Is Over" #4 on the charts
"High On You" #8
"Is This Love" #9
"I Can't Hold Back" #13

[Joe Vana]

Their only WORLDWIDE HUGE smash was EOTT...sang by DAVE BICKLER....JV

While EOTT was clearly the biggest smash hit of all by Survivor, "Burning Heart" was pretty huge in it's own right. It reached #2 on the charts, and the only reason it didn't go to #1 was because it had to go against that big charity song "That's What Friends Are For" that was performed by a bunch of legendary singers. But "Burning Heart" was pretty damn huge.

And there were also....
"The Search Is Over" #4 on the charts
"High On You" #8
"Is This Love" #9
"I Can't Hold Back" #13

I agree 100%....BUT....EOTT dwarfs ALL their other tunes combined in respect to Brand, $$$$$$, Licensing, $$$$$, longevity and recognition...no question about it....

When ANYONE describes Survivor they do not say "Yea, the band that did I can't Hold Back"...nope...EOTT...hands down...

But, I still agree with ya...

JV

[Journey/Survivor]

Their only WORLDWIDE HUGE smash was EOTT...sang by DAVE BICKLER....JV

While EOTT was clearly the biggest smash hit of all by Survivor, "Burning Heart" was pretty huge in it's own right. It reached #2 on the charts, and the only reason it didn't go to #1 was because it had to go against that big charity song "That's What Friends Are For" that was performed by a bunch of legendary singers. But "Burning Heart" was pretty damn huge.

And there were also....
"The Search Is Over" #4 on the charts
"High On You" #8
"Is This Love" #9
"I Can't Hold Back" #13

I agree 100%....BUT....EOTT dwarfs ALL their other tunes combined in respect to Brand, $$$$$$, Licensing, $$$$$, longevity and recognition...no question about it....

When ANYONE describes Survivor they do not say "Yea, the band that did I can't Hold Back"...nope...EOTT...hands down...

But, I still agree with ya...

JV

Funny thing, though. Back in the 80's when I was in high school, I wore a Survivor t-shirt to school one day, and this kid walked up to me and made mention of the shirt. He started out by saying "Survivor, that's the band that did." Of course I'm figuring that most likely he's going to say "Eye Of The Tiger," or possibly one of the other big hits. But surprisingly he said "Survivor, that's the band that did Caught In The Game." This kid was into mostly metal bands, but he knew the song Caught In The Game from the video being played on MTV, and he liked it.

Then on another occasion, also back in the 80's. My brother's best friend at the time told me that another friend of his loved Survivor and that how that kid got into Survivor was from hearing "Jackie Don't Go."

[DavidWT]

if your doing a set filled with Survivor songs, then you've gotta do Eye Of The Tiger too.

I would totally agree with that when he was touring under the Survivor name, but now that he's just touring as Jimi Jamison, I don't think it's so essential. There are enough JJ Survivor hits for him to perform.
Unless he wants to always be known as "the guy who used to be in Survivor," I think he should try to balance his shows a bit better. There are a LOT of good, solid songs on Crossroads Moment, and what better way to get them some recognition than to play them to a captive audience who already loves your voice? My guess is that pretty much anyone who likes what JJ did with Survivor will also like what he did on CM.

In a 13 song setlist, he should do at LEAST 4 or 5 from CM.
He also has some good songs on his previous albums. He could easily do 2 from "Empires," and 1 from "When Love Comes Down" (when I saw him many years ago, he did "Rock Hard" from that album, and it went over quite well.)

So that covers about 8 of 13 songs. To keep the Survivor fans happy, throw in "Didn't Know It Was Love," "The Search Is Over," "High on You," "Can't Hold Back" and end the show with "Burning Heart." (maybe "Rebel Son" could be thrown in there too somewhere.)
Then he'd have a set list that focuses on his current career while still appealing to the people who just want to hear stuff from his Survivor days.

[MarcelJordan]

if your doing a set filled with Survivor songs, then you've gotta do Eye Of The Tiger too.

I would totally agree with that when he was touring under the Survivor name, but now that he's just touring as Jimi Jamison, I don't think it's so essential. There are enough JJ Survivor hits for him to perform.
Unless he wants to always be known as "the guy who used to be in Survivor," I think he should try to balance his shows a bit better. There are a LOT of good, solid songs on Crossroads Moment, and what better way to get them some recognition than to play them to a captive audience who already loves your voice? My guess is that pretty much anyone who likes what JJ did with Survivor will also like what he did on CM.

In a 13 song setlist, he should do at LEAST 4 or 5 from CM.
He also has some good songs on his previous albums. He could easily do 2 from "Empires," and 1 from "When Love Comes Down" (when I saw him many years ago, he did "Rock Hard" from that album, and it went over quite well.)

So that covers about 8 of 13 songs. To keep the Survivor fans happy, throw in "Didn't Know It Was Love," "The Search Is Over," "High on You," "Can't Hold Back" and end the show with "Burning Heart." (maybe "Rebel Son" could be thrown in there too somewhere.)
Then he'd have a set list that focuses on his current career while still appealing to the people who just want to hear stuff from his Survivor days.

+1

And before anyone says that he has to do EOTT, I even have trouble accepting Robin doing EOTT with the real Survivor . That song is Dave's, signed, sealed and delivered...but that's just me.

MJ

[Journey/Survivor]

if your doing a set filled with Survivor songs, then you've gotta do Eye Of The Tiger too.

I would totally agree with that when he was touring under the Survivor name, but now that he's just touring as Jimi Jamison, I don't think it's so essential. There are enough JJ Survivor hits for him to perform.
Unless he wants to always be known as "the guy who used to be in Survivor," I think he should try to balance his shows a bit better. There are a LOT of good, solid songs on Crossroads Moment, and what better way to get them some recognition than to play them to a captive audience who already loves your voice? My guess is that pretty much anyone who likes what JJ did with Survivor will also like what he did on CM.

In a 13 song setlist, he should do at LEAST 4 or 5 from CM.
He also has some good songs on his previous albums. He could easily do 2 from "Empires," and 1 from "When Love Comes Down" (when I saw him many years ago, he did "Rock Hard" from that album, and it went over quite well.)

So that covers about 8 of 13 songs. To keep the Survivor fans happy, throw in "Didn't Know It Was Love," "The Search Is Over," "High on You," "Can't Hold Back" and end the show with "Burning Heart." (maybe "Rebel Son" could be thrown in there too somewhere.)
Then he'd have a set list that focuses on his current career while still appealing to the people who just want to hear stuff from his Survivor days.

I agree that he should play more of his own solo songs.
Back in the early to mid 90's when I would see Jimi and his band they were also playing songs off of his "When Love Comes Down" album, as well as Survivor songs, and also a few songs by The Doors and a couple of other bands.

[Journey/Survivor]

if your doing a set filled with Survivor songs, then you've gotta do Eye Of The Tiger too.

I would totally agree with that when he was touring under the Survivor name, but now that he's just touring as Jimi Jamison, I don't think it's so essential. There are enough JJ Survivor hits for him to perform.
Unless he wants to always be known as "the guy who used to be in Survivor," I think he should try to balance his shows a bit better. There are a LOT of good, solid songs on Crossroads Moment, and what better way to get them some recognition than to play them to a captive audience who already loves your voice? My guess is that pretty much anyone who likes what JJ did with Survivor will also like what he did on CM.

In a 13 song setlist, he should do at LEAST 4 or 5 from CM.
He also has some good songs on his previous albums. He could easily do 2 from "Empires," and 1 from "When Love Comes Down" (when I saw him many years ago, he did "Rock Hard" from that album, and it went over quite well.)

So that covers about 8 of 13 songs. To keep the Survivor fans happy, throw in "Didn't Know It Was Love," "The Search Is Over," "High on You," "Can't Hold Back" and end the show with "Burning Heart." (maybe "Rebel Son" could be thrown in there too somewhere.)
Then he'd have a set list that focuses on his current career while still appealing to the people who just want to hear stuff from his Survivor days.

+1

And before anyone says that he has to do EOTT, I even have trouble accepting Robin doing EOTT with the real Survivor . That song is Dave's, signed, sealed and delivered...but that's just me.

MJ

He has to do EOTT.

[MarcelJordan]

if your doing a set filled with Survivor songs, then you've gotta do Eye Of The Tiger too.

I would totally agree with that when he was touring under the Survivor name, but now that he's just touring as Jimi Jamison, I don't think it's so essential. There are enough JJ Survivor hits for him to perform.
Unless he wants to always be known as "the guy who used to be in Survivor," I think he should try to balance his shows a bit better. There are a LOT of good, solid songs on Crossroads Moment, and what better way to get them some recognition than to play them to a captive audience who already loves your voice? My guess is that pretty much anyone who likes what JJ did with Survivor will also like what he did on CM.

In a 13 song setlist, he should do at LEAST 4 or 5 from CM.
He also has some good songs on his previous albums. He could easily do 2 from "Empires," and 1 from "When Love Comes Down" (when I saw him many years ago, he did "Rock Hard" from that album, and it went over quite well.)

So that covers about 8 of 13 songs. To keep the Survivor fans happy, throw in "Didn't Know It Was Love," "The Search Is Over," "High on You," "Can't Hold Back" and end the show with "Burning Heart." (maybe "Rebel Son" could be thrown in there too somewhere.)
Then he'd have a set list that focuses on his current career while still appealing to the people who just want to hear stuff from his Survivor days.

+1

And before anyone says that he has to do EOTT, I even have trouble accepting Robin doing EOTT with the real Survivor . That song is Dave's, signed, sealed and delivered...but that's just me.

MJ

He has to do EOTT.

Oh man....



Oooh. We've forgotten Moment Of Truth. I love JJ's vocals on that one. Infact wasn't it the first song they released with him on vocals? Then again Bill Conti might give him a call and....

MJ

[Eyeof]

or at least assumes) that 90% of the audience still knows him best as "the guy from Survivor," and he thinks he'll be disappointing those people if he plays stuff from CM.

No problem with him singing some Survivor stuff but JJ should have the courage of his convictions and talents. CM is a solid effort and he has his own back catalog too!

By this same token should not Frankie Sullivan - if he is so great - have the 'courage of his convictions and talents" to stop hiding behind the name Survivor and touring as something that - and I don't care about legal - he is not?

I'm sorry, McDurow on vocals just is NOT the Survivor that fans are looking to see. So what is the difference?