Toronto Sun: Perry asks to rejoin Journey

[Deb]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Problem solved, RobbieG is Tito!

[Saint John]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Again, as I stated earlier, I have never met this person and have only shared PMs. I have no idea where he may or may not live and I have never considered someone I have never met, a "friend." You implied that we're friends/acquaintances and you were wrong. We're not. But I won't sue you.

[Blueskies]

As I stated above, he called me on the phone twice...so I know for certain he is a guy. He was pleasant and polite. He told me that he doesn't work for Journey in any capacity but that a friend of his does.

( by the way, he sent me a pm wanting to talk but I wanted varification to who he was and would not talk in text so he called instead of messaging per my request.....and before untrue gossip starts...there was absolutely no flirtations or anything of that sort before during or after the conversations. We talked about Journey, other bands, musicians, his family and I talked about mine, )

For the amount of times I've seen you post something like that, that's kinda scary. Do you give your phone # out to everybody. There is a grand total of only 3 guys on this forum that have my number (and of course my gal pals). But every single one that does, I've actually met.

I'm confused, you would not talk in text but would talk over the phone?

You assume too much and you are exaggerating. I have not talked to many people at all, only a few. After all the game playing people have done I will only chat on the phone and will not talk to someone anonomously in type in pm. How the heck can you tell from type who you are really talking too? I want at least some verification to who it is I'm talking to. People can write anything and you can't tell if it's the truth or get the emotion behind the words. Many things you can tell by voice patterns and levels. To talk to someone in person is preferable to have added benefit of eye contact and body language but if not in person then voice is the next best option...which is preferable to type, as I said. What can they do to me over the phone? I would think one would have to be more concerned of ones saftey when meeting them in person. Why would you travel to meet up with a bunch of people you don't know???

[yulog]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Again, as I stated earlier, I have never met this person and have only shared PMs. I have no idea where he may or may not live and I have never considered someone I have never met, a "friend." You implied that we're friends/acquaintances and you were wrong. We're not. But I won't sue you.

[Blueskies]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Again, as I stated earlier, I have never met this person and have only shared PMs. I have no idea where he may or may not live and I have never considered someone I have never met, a "friend." You implied that we're friends/acquaintances and you were wrong. We're not. But I won't sue you.

HE implied you were friends. You deny it . So the discrepancy is between you and Robbie.

[Rockindeano]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Horseshit. I had his IP run, and dude lives in Michigan. Dan is a Chicago boy. Same area code? Probably not.

This is getting plain scary. There has been absolutely no bullshit here until you popped your sour grill in here two days ago and now look? This place has more drama than the fuckin Emmy's. My God, must you delve into and investigate every little detail? Can you not just post and have fun, or does everyone need to pass a fucking vetted inquiry? Just post your art, run your smack, and lay off the Oliver Stone actions.

[Saint John]

Why would you travel to meet up with a bunch of people you don't know???

I'm 6'3 and 230 pounds, Phil. If anyone wants to sexually assault me all they have to do is ask. I've met quite a few cool people from this board. I'd name them all but it would take me forever. Sorry, Phil, I know you had a not so nice meeting when you met up with people brandishing Tequila that Lindsay Lohan wouldn't drink.

[Blueskies]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Horseshit. I had his IP run, and dude lives in Michigan. Dan is a Chicago boy. Same area code? Probably not.

This is getting plain scary. There has been absolutely no bullshit here until you popped your sour grill in here two days ago and now look? This place has more drama than the fuckin Emmy's. My God, must you delve into and investigate every little detail? Can you not just post and have fun, or does everyone need to pass a fucking vetted inquiry? Just post your art, run your smack, and lay off the Oliver Stone actions.

I still have the number and it is a Chicago area code. Fact! and phone records don't lie. Yep, the bullcrap is here and its deep and you and your friends are the ones who produce it. You may fool some but you don't fool as many as you think you do. There have been a number of people who have confronted you on your bull through the years, not only me...I'm just one you haven't managed to run off and isn't the least bit intimidated by you or your friends. I posted my art and posted an opinion here. Y'all started in attacking and harrassing me, I didn't start anything. You also brought up Robbie, not me. ..so keep playing your games but why don't you play with your friends, instead.
Oh...what Robbie had to say about you on the phone ? He was correct in his assessment. The only ones to start any drama are you, Dan and Behshad so who are you trying to kid? People observing are smarter than what you credit them for.

[Rockindeano]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Horseshit. I had his IP run, and dude lives in Michigan. Dan is a Chicago boy. Same area code? Probably not.

This is getting plain scary. There has been absolutely no bullshit here until you popped your sour grill in here two days ago and now look? This place has more drama than the fuckin Emmy's. My God, must you delve into and investigate every little detail? Can you not just post and have fun, or does everyone need to pass a fucking vetted inquiry? Just post your art, run your smack, and lay off the Oliver Stone actions.

I still have the number and it is a Chicago area code. Fact! and phone records don't lie. Yep, the bullcrap is here and its deep and you and your friends are the ones who produce it. You may fool some but you don't fool as many as you think you do. There have been a number of people who have confronted you on your bull through the years, not only me...I'm just one you haven't managed to run off and isn't the least bit intimidated by you or your friends. I posted my art and posted an opinion here. Y'all started in attacking and harrassing me, I didn't start anything. You also brought up Robbie, not me. ..so keep playing your games but why don't you play with your friends, instead.
Oh...what Robbie had to say about you on the phone ? He was correct in his assessment. The only ones to start any drama are you, Dan and Behshad so who are you trying to kid? People observing are smarter than what you credit them for.

Excuse me Nurse Diesel, plkease show me ONE time where I attacked you or your art? Please don't lump me in with those Hall of Fame posters Dan and Behshad. I am not nearly in their league and I have not attacked nor insulted YOU once. If you can prove that, I will leave forever.

oh and RobbieG is now the golden voice of my character? Dude has never met me, nor has he met Dan, yet he compiles an opinion of us both. That's pretty circumstantial evidence of knowledge Phyliss. Try again.

I will await your "proof" that I ONCE harrassed or attacked you.

[Saint John]

I will await your "proof" that I ONCE harrassed or attacked you.

I have 3 childhood friends that are lawyers. I e-mailed them Phil's charges and two of them told me to tell her to dive into an acid bath and the other one sent me this:

Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress:

(1)(a) One who by extreme and outrageous conduct intentionally or recklessly causes severe emotional distress to another is subject to liability for such emotional distress, and if bodily harm to the other results from it, for such bodily harm

Definitions

Extreme and Outrageous Conduct: The conduct must be extreme and outrageous beyond all possible bounds of decency and utterly intolerable in a socialized community. It is not enough that the defendant acts with an intent that is tortious, criminal, or even an actual intent to inflict emotional distress. The conduct itself must be extreme and outrageous. Mere insults, indignities, threats, annoyances, petty oppressions, and other trivialities will not suffice.

The conduct itself must be so severe that no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.



In short, there is no case against anyone here. Furthermore, courts have been inundated with these sorts of claims and they have all shot them all down. The courts would be in session from now until eternity. There simply isn't enough time for them to hear cases concerning "Billy called me a bad name!!!" Additionally, the statute of limitations on such actions is 1 extremely short ... mainly one year. Translation: Lube up, Jocelyn!

[Rockindeano]

Oh this thread deserves a DSB metaphor-

Like a movie never ends it goes on and on and on and on.....

Your turn Phil.

[RossValoryRocks]

Wait??? I feel left out now...I don't start any drama?

Ok...

Dan and Deano are gay lovers...I have the video to prove it...

Is that enough drama?

[Rockindeano]

Wait??? I feel left out now...I don't start any drama?

Ok...

Dan and Deano are gay lovers...I have the video to prove it...

Well, ok, as long as I was pitcher and Dan was catcher.

[RossValoryRocks]

Wait??? I feel left out now...I don't start any drama?

Ok...

Dan and Deano are gay lovers...I have the video to prove it...

Well, ok, as long as I was pitcher and Dan was catcher.

ROFLMAO!

If Dan is the catcher...how would he know if you were pitching?? It could be Beshad pumpin' and grindin' on ya!!?? Dan doesn't eyes in the back of his head I don't think.

For that matter get a woman with a strap on...and to convince him you came, drop a cup of hot yogurt on his back...maybe Phyllis will sign up?

[Rockindeano]

Jesus Christ you are a sick bastard Stu.

[Saint John]

Phil's dialing up PETA as we speak.

[Rockindeano]

I just love how a Toronto Sun article about Neal being pissy at Espee, evolves into Mr Big sucks smack, Liquid Ass chronicles, and Dan v Phyliss, round 10.
It's awesome.

[Blueskies]

I will await your "proof" that I ONCE harrassed or attacked you.

I have 3 childhood friends that are lawyers. I e-mailed them Phil's charges and two of them told me to tell her to dive into an acid bath and the other one sent me this:

Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress:

(1)(a) One who by extreme and outrageous conduct intentionally or recklessly causes severe emotional distress to another is subject to liability for such emotional distress, and if bodily harm to the other results from it, for such bodily harm

Definitions

Extreme and Outrageous Conduct: The conduct must be extreme and outrageous beyond all possible bounds of decency and utterly intolerable in a socialized community. It is not enough that the defendant acts with an intent that is tortious, criminal, or even an actual intent to inflict emotional distress. The conduct itself must be extreme and outrageous. Mere insults, indignities, threats, annoyances, petty oppressions, and other trivialities will not suffice.

The conduct itself must be so severe that no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.



In short, there is no case against anyone here. Furthermore, courts have been inundated with these sorts of claims and they have all shot them all down. The courts would be in session from now until eternity. There simply isn't enough time for them to hear cases concerning "Billy called me a bad name!!!" Additionally, the statute of limitations on such actions is 1 extremely short ... mainly one year. Translation: Lube up, Jocelyn!

You may want to read what you posted again. There are more infractions than the continual harrassment over an extended period of time due to the maligment and harrassment in my Art thread which is my BUSINESS and was to promote said business and my business is my livleyhood which most definately affects my health and well being. The conduct in that thread alone has a detrimental affect on me and my livelyhood, i.e. my business along with the continual amd intentional infliction of emotional distress from maligment and harrassment over an extended period of time. The maligment also extends further than this site due to Google and all posts showing up on it to where the maligning affects on myself and my business extends web wide.
Like I said there are other infractions as well...like Behshad taking my copyrighted artwork which is my product that is for sale ( the sale of which produces my income) and defacing it right where I was promoting my business along with the maligning comments he made. I let the harrassment go for a long time but it has and does have a detrimental affect on me and now my business...both my web based business and my business in general... so you need some more supposed friends who are better lawyers.

[Rockindeano]

You may want to read what you posted again. There are more infractions than the continual harrassment over an extended period of time due to the maligment and harrassment in my Art thread which is my BUSINESS and was to promote said business and my business is my livleyhood which most definately affects my health and well being. The conduct in that thread alone has a detrimental affect on me and my livelyhood, i.e. my business along with the continual amd intentional infliction of emotional distress from maligment and harrassment over an extended period of time. The maligment also extends further than this site due to Google and all posts showing up on it to where the maligning affects on myself and my business extends web wide.
Like I said there are other infractions as well...like Behshad taking my copyrighted artwork which is my product that is for sale ( the sale of which produces my income) and defacing it right where I was promoting my business along with the maligning comments he made. I let the harrassment go for a long time but it has and does have a detrimental affect on me and now my business...both my web based business and my business in general... so you need some more supposed friends who are better lawyers.

You are really reaching here. You brought your art here for analysis, recognition and/or ridicule. Behshad nor Dan have to like said art. I hope you DO sue. I need a good laugh. But seriously Phyliss, why can't you play nice and get along, and for fuck's sake, grow a thicker skin? I just don't understand why you would continally return to a place that frankly you have a real hard time mixing in with? There has got to be I don't know, 4 million other sites that I am sure you would find inclusion much easier. I am beginning to think you are looking for trouble, because you thrive on it. Seriously, put away the drugs, and the insanity...you aren't suing anyone anytime soon.

Oh by the way, you falsly accused me of harrassment and agitation. I have yet to see you apologize to me for your erroneous claim. Technically, I have endured extreme anguish and feel hurt, and I might just be entitled to some financial compensation. So, either you apologize to me sincerely, or shut your fucking pie hole already.

[Andrew]

Damn..not a negative word about JSS...but anyone else can be crucified here.

Hardly...

Dan knows my issue with his posts. Move on folks...

[Andrew]

Robbie G? You might want to ask SaintJohn where he is, I'm sure he knows.

Um, no. I have never met or talked to him other than on here via PM. But feel free to keep guessing!

He told me you and he are friends and he has talked to you often. He also told me he lives where you do and the area code verified that.

Horseshit. I had his IP run, and dude lives in Michigan. Dan is a Chicago boy. Same area code? Probably not.

This is getting plain scary. There has been absolutely no bullshit here until you popped your sour grill in here two days ago and now look? This place has more drama than the fuckin Emmy's.

Coincidental indeed.

[Andrew]

In short, there is no case against anyone here. Furthermore, courts have been inundated with these sorts of claims and they have all shot them all down. The courts would be in session from now until eternity. There simply isn't enough time for them to hear cases concerning "Billy called me a bad name!!!" Additionally, the statute of limitations on such actions is 1 extremely short ... mainly one year. Translation: Lube up, Jocelyn!

You may want to read what you posted again. There are more infractions than the continual harrassment over an extended period of time due to the maligment and harrassment in my Art thread which is my BUSINESS and was to promote said business and my business is my livleyhood which most definately affects my health and well being. The conduct in that thread alone has a detrimental affect on me and my livelyhood, i.e. my business along with the continual amd intentional infliction of emotional distress from maligment and harrassment over an extended period of time. The maligment also extends further than this site due to Google and all posts showing up on it to where the maligning affects on myself and my business extends web wide.
Like I said there are other infractions as well...like Behshad taking my copyrighted artwork which is my product that is for sale ( the sale of which produces my income) and defacing it right where I was promoting my business along with the maligning comments he made. I let the harrassment go for a long time but it has and does have a detrimental affect on me and now my business...both my web based business and my business in general... so you need some more supposed friends who are better lawyers.[/quote]

I think it might be time tolog off again Phyllis. I have no idea why you even came back.

[Don]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say using a thread to promote any type of endeavor which is decribed, or can be construed, as some type of business venture persuant to one's livelihood without the consent of the site owner/moderator isn't going to hold up as a valid argument. Andrew can just delete the thread and say any solicitations/ advertising on this site for things not music related is forbidden unless he has given his express consent.

[Ehwmatt]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say using a thread to promote any type of endeavor which is decribed, or can be construed, as some type of business venture persuant to one's livelihood without the consent of the site owner/moderator isn't going to hold up as a valid argument. Andrew can just delete the thread and say any solicitations/ advertising on this site for things not music related is forbidden unless he has given his express consent.

I will be impressed if someone could even find a lawyer to draft a complaint on the facts alleged, even in a world of shysters and frivolous litigation.

[Rockindeano]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say using a thread to promote any type of endeavor which is decribed, or can be construed, as some type of business venture persuant to one's livelihood without the consent of the site owner/moderator isn't going to hold up as a valid argument. Andrew can just delete the thread and say any solicitations/ advertising on this site for things not music related is forbidden unless he has given his express consent.

Dude, are you a fuckin paralegal? Your research and knowledge astounds me. Please don't be this nerdy for the Mrs Big show ok? I will give you your own bottle of Liquid Ass if you lighten up.

[Rockindeano]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say using a thread to promote any type of endeavor which is decribed, or can be construed, as some type of business venture persuant to one's livelihood without the consent of the site owner/moderator isn't going to hold up as a valid argument. Andrew can just delete the thread and say any solicitations/ advertising on this site for things not music related is forbidden unless he has given his express consent.

I will be impressed if someone could even find a lawyer to draft a complaint on the facts alleged, even in a world of shysters and frivolous litigation.

Binder and Binder would take this case, Matty. You know em dude! Those shysters who wear cowboy hats? Those guys chase ambulances in their sleep!

[portland]

To think I worked all day and missed this!!!

[Ehwmatt]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say using a thread to promote any type of endeavor which is decribed, or can be construed, as some type of business venture persuant to one's livelihood without the consent of the site owner/moderator isn't going to hold up as a valid argument. Andrew can just delete the thread and say any solicitations/ advertising on this site for things not music related is forbidden unless he has given his express consent.

I will be impressed if someone could even find a lawyer to draft a complaint on the facts alleged, even in a world of shysters and frivolous litigation.

Binder and Binder would take this case, Matty. You know em dude! Those shysters who wear cowboy hats? Those guys chase ambulances in their sleep!

I don't think they have a copyright law practice group big Dean

[Rockindeano]

These guys will take any case matty.

[RossValoryRocks]

You may want to read what you posted again. There are more infractions than the continual harrassment over an extended period of time due to the maligment and harrassment in my Art thread which is my BUSINESS and was to promote said business and my business is my livleyhood which most definately affects my health and well being. The conduct in that thread alone has a detrimental affect on me and my livelyhood, i.e. my business along with the continual amd intentional infliction of emotional distress from maligment and harrassment over an extended period of time. The maligment also extends further than this site due to Google and all posts showing up on it to where the maligning affects on myself and my business extends web wide.
Like I said there are other infractions as well...like Behshad taking my copyrighted artwork which is my product that is for sale ( the sale of which produces my income) and defacing it right where I was promoting my business along with the maligning comments he made. I let the harrassment go for a long time but it has and does have a detrimental affect on me and now my business...both my web based business and my business in general... so you need some more supposed friends who are better lawyers.

So wait...being critical of your artwork (which regardless of what Dan thinks, I think is stellar...but to each their own), or being critical of you based upon how you act around here is harrassment?

You freely posted your artwork in the public domain, and as such relinquish certain right to said work, such as for use in parody, which is obviously what Beshad did. This is predicated under the "Fair use" doctrine of the Copyright law and has been upheld more times by the courts than I can even enumerate here, but for your education it is 17 U.S.C. § 107.

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

In addition the parody by Beshad would be covered under the court cases: Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1994), as well as Leibovitz v. Paramount Pictures Corp.

You have NO legal standing to bring suit in any jurisdiction, but hey it's your money...please try if you like.