A Garden View

[Blueskies]

I attended Painting With A Twist last night ...ever heard of it?!? http://www.paintingwithatwist.com/shreveport/
It's a franchise and they're all over LA, Fl, TX ...in MI, TN and other parts of the country.
You can either attend a class, open to the public, or have a private party. One design is
selected by the person hosting the party (if it's a private party) and the teacher guides you, step by step,
to completion. I'm not sure, but I think the twist is the wine/alcohol you drink
while trying to produce your masterpiece.

Long story short I had the best time, laughed a LOT and I left there thinking I had a hidden talent ...course
things are much clearer today and unfortunately I am not the arteest I drank myself
into believing ...but huge, huge fun!!! Much respect to all you artists ...

I've not been to one but my sister-in-law went with a bunch of her friends for her birthday and posted pics on Facebook of their paintings. She will be the first to say she has no artistic ability either but they had a great time! Plus, as I told her, I think they did a pretty good job on their paintings, especially without having painted a landscape before. I bet you did better then you think as well. Whats important is you had fun with it! Would you go again?

[Ehwmatt]

Drawing is a talent I haven't had since I used to draw stick figures in kindergarten and forgot the bodies ... just head, arms, and legs. I used to have a Pinoy friend who was a kiler artist who got me through grade school art class.

[Blueskies]

Drawing is a talent I haven't had since I used to draw stick figures in kindergarten and forgot the bodies ... just head, arms, and legs. I used to have a Pinoy friend who was a kiler artist who got me through grade school art class.

You had someone else do your art homework? I know people who have said they had others write reports and such and looked at someone elses answers on a test but I've never heard anyone say they had someone else do their art homework before!

[Ehwmatt]

Drawing is a talent I haven't had since I used to draw stick figures in kindergarten and forgot the bodies ... just head, arms, and legs. I used to have a Pinoy friend who was a kiler artist who got me through grade school art class.

You had someone else do your art homework? I know people who have said they had others write reports and such and looked at someone elses answers on a test but I've never heard anyone say they had someone else do their art homework before!

I was the one writing papers and letting friends copy my written tests Quid pro quo

[Blueskies]

Drawing is a talent I haven't had since I used to draw stick figures in kindergarten and forgot the bodies ... just head, arms, and legs. I used to have a Pinoy friend who was a kiler artist who got me through grade school art class.

You had someone else do your art homework? I know people who have said they had others write reports and such and looked at someone elses answers on a test but I've never heard anyone say they had someone else do their art homework before!

I was the one writing papers and letting friends copy my written tests Quid pro quo

Okay, it was a lesson in sharing, then.

[Blueskies]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

[Andrew]

I see we are all back to our usual bullshit and bait..... I haven't got time for this - I was enjoying the peace and quiet of the board.

This is the one and only warning for this thread and any future threads. Get over your issues folks.

[Rockindeano]

I see we are all back to our usual bullshit and bait..... I haven't got time for this - I was enjoying the peace and quiet of the board.

This is the one and only warning for this thread and any future threads. Get over your issues folks.

Dude, whatever you do, do not visit the Toronto Sun thread downstairs. It's game on there.

[Andrew]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

[Behshad]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

Back to peace and quiet grandpa.


You seriously take that nutjobs threat seriously ?! I'm gonna sue you for being so gullible !

[Blueskies]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

I was promoting my business which is my artwork just as I have promoted other artists on here and have even promoted other forum members who are artists in the musician sense of artistry. I will not stand still and let anyone malign me and my business. Sorry, but you don't stand still for someone maligning yours either and not say something about it or even take legal proceedings if you have to and can to defend and protect your livelyhood.
No one had any business coming into this thread and type derogatory comments towards me and no one had the right to copy my copyrighted work and deface it and repost it here in a thread where I was promoting my work. You wouldn't stand still for it if it was your business and work that took weeks to create and neither will I.

[portland]

I can't believe we are here again!

[StevePerryHair]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

[Behshad]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

I was promoting my business which is my artwork just as I have promoted other artists on here and have even promoted other forum members who are artists in the musician sense of artistry. I will not stand still and let anyone malign me and my business. Sorry, but you don't stand still for someone maligning yours either and not say something about it or even take legal proceedings if you have to and can to defend and protect your livelyhood.
No one had any business coming into this thread and type derogatory comments towards me and no one had the right to copy my copyrighted work and deface it and repost it here in a thread where I was promoting my work. You wouldn't stand still for it if it was your business and work that took weeks to create and neither will I.

You of all people have no rights coming here to promote your business when you made it clear that YOU dont support Andrews business when Linda created a donation thread. Just saying

[Blueskies]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

Back to peace and quiet grandpa.


You seriously take that nutjobs threat seriously ?! I'm gonna sue you for being so gullible !

saving again

[Blueskies]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

I was promoting my business which is my artwork just as I have promoted other artists on here and have even promoted other forum members who are artists in the musician sense of artistry. I will not stand still and let anyone malign me and my business. Sorry, but you don't stand still for someone maligning yours either and not say something about it or even take legal proceedings if you have to and can to defend and protect your livelyhood.
No one had any business coming into this thread and type derogatory comments towards me and no one had the right to copy my copyrighted work and deface it and repost it here in a thread where I was promoting my work. You wouldn't stand still for it if it was your business and work that took weeks to create and neither will I.

You of all people have no rights coming here to promote your business when you made it clear that YOU dont support Andrews business when Linda created a donation thread. Just saying

Bull, I just didn't support the concert idea because I thought he would lose his shirt on it and by his own accounts he did lose on it. And YOU and Dan made comments prior to the concert the same as I did.

[Behshad]

By the way, use and reissue of someone elses photographs without their expressed permission is copyright infringement. .

Did you ask Jocelyn Wildenstein for her permission before copying and using her pic ?

Once again, not a wise move on your part to continue the defamation and harrassment.

I'm not going to look favorably upon legal threats being issued in relation to posts on MY site and MY server. So both of you knock it off or I'll put a stop to it permanently.

I was promoting my business which is my artwork just as I have promoted other artists on here and have even promoted other forum members who are artists in the musician sense of artistry. I will not stand still and let anyone malign me and my business. Sorry, but you don't stand still for someone maligning yours either and not say something about it or even take legal proceedings if you have to and can to defend and protect your livelyhood.
No one had any business coming into this thread and type derogatory comments towards me and no one had the right to copy my copyrighted work and deface it and repost it here in a thread where I was promoting my work. You wouldn't stand still for it if it was your business and work that took weeks to create and neither will I.

You of all people have no rights coming here to promote your business when you made it clear that YOU dont support Andrews business when Linda created a donation thread. Just saying

Bull, I just didn't support the concert idea because I thought he would lose his shirt on it and by his own accounts he did lose on it. And YOU and Dan made comments prior to the concert the same as I did.

You posted in the DONATION thread , saying you're NOT supporting Andrew cause he's investing in a dying business.

Dan and I WENT to the concerts. Both of them. And supported Andrew. You didn't. Simple

[Blueskies]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

[Behshad]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

Does your "attorney " wear a white coat and keeps reminding you to call him Dr ?!

[StevePerryHair]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

Well maybe your legal council is from the office of "nutcases, crazies and insane" because you have no idea what you are talking about. No one is stealing or reproducing your artwork. You chose to bring it here. People can have opinions about it and you. Last I checked this wasnt an art gallery.

[Saint John]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

I'm done here. Andrew is getting pissed and I don't need him on my ass anymore than he has been already. However, Phyllis, people are allowed to make any sort of derogatory remarks they wish about your artwork. That, any lawyer will tell you, is protected by free speech. And as far as Behshad fucking with your painting goes, it would be virtually impossible to prove that your livelihood has been affected in any way because this site has nothing to do with art. What reputation can you prove has been permanently scarred from his actions? Your MR rep?

I'll end with this; there have been cases where teens committed suicide because they were called "whores, tramps, fat bitches, etc. and the parents were told they have no recourse. I'm certainly not insinuating that you would harm yourself in any way, but I'm trying to illustrate the difficulty in proving "online bullying." Christ, you're a grown woman, have children and grandchildren ... I'm sure that your life has had tougher challenges than Behshad drawing over your painting! Call him pussyballs, a carpet pilot, sand nigger, (even though he's Persian) or something of the like and let's move on!

[Blueskies]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

Well maybe your legal council is from the office of "nutcases, crazies and insane" because you have no idea what you are talking about. No one is stealing or reproducing your artwork. You chose to bring it here. People can have opinions about it and you. Last I checked this wasnt an art gallery.

Fine by me if you really want to see who is right and who is wrong. I did not choose nor did I grant permission for my COPYRIGHTED artwork to be copied , defaced and republished. NO permission was granted by me and I most certainly do have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to copyrighted work used without my permission and in a detrimental way to affect my business. You are clueless.

[RossValoryRocks]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

Well maybe your legal council is from the office of "nutcases, crazies and insane" because you have no idea what you are talking about. No one is stealing or reproducing your artwork. You chose to bring it here. People can have opinions about it and you. Last I checked this wasnt an art gallery.

Fine by me if you really want to see who is right and who is wrong. I did not choose nor did I grant permission for my COPYRIGHTED artwork to be copied , defaced and republished. NO permission was granted by me and I most certainly do have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to copyrighted work used without my permission and in a detrimental way to affect my business. You are clueless.

Better check again Blueskies...you are way off...you have no legal leg to stand on. I posted this in the Toronto Sun Thread but will repost it here:

You freely posted your artwork in the public domain, and as such relinquish certain right to said work, such as for use in parody, which is obviously what Beshad did. This is predicated under the "Fair use" doctrine of the Copyright law and has been upheld more times by the courts than I can even enumerate here, but for your education it is 17 U.S.C. § 107.

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

In addition the parody by Beshad would be covered under the court cases: Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1994), as well as Leibovitz v. Paramount Pictures Corp.

You have NO legal standing to bring suit in any jurisdiction, but hey it's your money...please try if you like.

[Blueskies]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

I'm done here. Andrew is getting pissed and I don't need him on my ass anymore than he has been already. However, Phyllis, people are allowed to make any sort of derogatory remarks they wish about your artwork. That, any lawyer will tell you, is protected by free speech. And as far as Behshad fucking with your painting goes, it would be virtually impossible to prove that your livelihood has been affected in any way because this site has nothing to do with art. What reputation can you prove has been permanently scarred from his actions? Your MR rep?

I'll end with this; there have been cases where teens committed suicide because they were called "whores, tramps, fat bitches, etc. and the parents were told they have no recourse. I'm certainly not insinuating that you would harm yourself in any way, but I'm trying to illustrate the difficulty in proving "online bullying." Christ, you're a grown woman, have children and grandchildren ... I'm sure that your life has had tougher challenges than Behshad drawing over your painting! Call him pussyballs, a carpet pilot, sand nigger, (even though he's Persian) or something of the like and let's move on!

You are wrong. An artist I know is in legal proceedings right now over the same circumstances of being continually harrassed on the net by a group of three people and in having his copyrighted work violated.

[RossValoryRocks]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

I'm done here. Andrew is getting pissed and I don't need him on my ass anymore than he has been already. However, Phyllis, people are allowed to make any sort of derogatory remarks they wish about your artwork. That, any lawyer will tell you, is protected by free speech. And as far as Behshad fucking with your painting goes, it would be virtually impossible to prove that your livelihood has been affected in any way because this site has nothing to do with art. What reputation can you prove has been permanently scarred from his actions? Your MR rep?

I'll end with this; there have been cases where teens committed suicide because they were called "whores, tramps, fat bitches, etc. and the parents were told they have no recourse. I'm certainly not insinuating that you would harm yourself in any way, but I'm trying to illustrate the difficulty in proving "online bullying." Christ, you're a grown woman, have children and grandchildren ... I'm sure that your life has had tougher challenges than Behshad drawing over your painting! Call him pussyballs, a carpet pilot, sand nigger, (even though he's Persian) or something of the like and let's move on!

You are wrong. An artist I know is in legal proceedings right now over the same circumstances of being continually harrassed on the net by a group of three people and in having his copyrighted work violated.

Man...you REALLY need to get a lawyer...if to do nothing else but explain the law to you.

[Deb]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

I'm done here. Andrew is getting pissed and I don't need him on my ass anymore than he has been already. However, Phyllis, people are allowed to make any sort of derogatory remarks they wish about your artwork. That, any lawyer will tell you, is protected by free speech. And as far as Behshad fucking with your painting goes, it would be virtually impossible to prove that your livelihood has been affected in any way because this site has nothing to do with art. What reputation can you prove has been permanently scarred from his actions? Your MR rep?

I'll end with this; there have been cases where teens committed suicide because they were called "whores, tramps, fat bitches, etc. and the parents were told they have no recourse. I'm certainly not insinuating that you would harm yourself in any way, but I'm trying to illustrate the difficulty in proving "online bullying." Christ, you're a grown woman, have children and grandchildren ... I'm sure that your life has had tougher challenges than Behshad drawing over your painting! Call him pussyballs, a carpet pilot, sand nigger, (even though he's Persian) or something of the like and let's move on! :shock:

I'm sorry I know I shouldn't laugh at that, but, say that aloud and it makes ya giggle.

Good gawd, talk about sucking the fun right out of this joint.

[Behshad]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

Well maybe your legal council is from the office of "nutcases, crazies and insane" because you have no idea what you are talking about. No one is stealing or reproducing your artwork. You chose to bring it here. People can have opinions about it and you. Last I checked this wasnt an art gallery.

Fine by me if you really want to see who is right and who is wrong. I did not choose nor did I grant permission for my COPYRIGHTED artwork to be copied , defaced and republished. NO permission was granted by me and I most certainly do have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to copyrighted work used without my permission and in a detrimental way to affect my business. You are clueless.

Better check again Blueskies...you are way off...you have no legal leg to stand on. I posted this in the Toronto Sun Thread but will repost it here:

You freely posted your artwork in the public domain, and as such relinquish certain right to said work, such as for use in parody, which is obviously what Beshad did. This is predicated under the "Fair use" doctrine of the Copyright law and has been upheld more times by the courts than I can even enumerate here, but for your education it is 17 U.S.C. § 107.

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

In addition the parody by Beshad would be covered under the court cases: Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1994), as well as Leibovitz v. Paramount Pictures Corp.

You have NO legal standing to bring suit in any jurisdiction, but hey it's your money...please try if you like.

Yes. My attorney knows his shit. Thank Stu.


Also , I'd like to see Mrs Phyl prove that I personally doctored her painting !

[RossValoryRocks]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

Well maybe your legal council is from the office of "nutcases, crazies and insane" because you have no idea what you are talking about. No one is stealing or reproducing your artwork. You chose to bring it here. People can have opinions about it and you. Last I checked this wasnt an art gallery.

Fine by me if you really want to see who is right and who is wrong. I did not choose nor did I grant permission for my COPYRIGHTED artwork to be copied , defaced and republished. NO permission was granted by me and I most certainly do have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to copyrighted work used without my permission and in a detrimental way to affect my business. You are clueless.

Better check again Blueskies...you are way off...you have no legal leg to stand on. I posted this in the Toronto Sun Thread but will repost it here:

You freely posted your artwork in the public domain, and as such relinquish certain right to said work, such as for use in parody, which is obviously what Beshad did. This is predicated under the "Fair use" doctrine of the Copyright law and has been upheld more times by the courts than I can even enumerate here, but for your education it is 17 U.S.C. § 107.

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

In addition the parody by Beshad would be covered under the court cases: Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1994), as well as Leibovitz v. Paramount Pictures Corp.

You have NO legal standing to bring suit in any jurisdiction, but hey it's your money...please try if you like.

Yes. My attorney knows his shit. Thank Stu.


Also , I'd like to see Mrs Phyl prove that I personally doctored her painting !

It doesn't matter that you personally doctored it or not...it was done in Parody and as such falls under the fair use doctrine of copyright law, especially since she posted it in a publicly viewable forum.

[Behshad]

Phyllis, you have no idea how the legal system works. You come to a public site willingly, not asked to be here, no gun to your head. You have no leg to stand on. Just shut up already.

You have no idea because I've done some research and have legal council that tells me I do. Especially to what affects my artwork which is my livelyhood. Are you a lawyer? No, you're just piling on as usual and unprovoked I might add.

I'm done here. Andrew is getting pissed and I don't need him on my ass anymore than he has been already. However, Phyllis, people are allowed to make any sort of derogatory remarks they wish about your artwork. That, any lawyer will tell you, is protected by free speech. And as far as Behshad fucking with your painting goes, it would be virtually impossible to prove that your livelihood has been affected in any way because this site has nothing to do with art. What reputation can you prove has been permanently scarred from his actions? Your MR rep?

I'll end with this; there have been cases where teens committed suicide because they were called "whores, tramps, fat bitches, etc. and the parents were told they have no recourse. I'm certainly not insinuating that you would harm yourself in any way, but I'm trying to illustrate the difficulty in proving "online bullying." Christ, you're a grown woman, have children and grandchildren ... I'm sure that your life has had tougher challenges than Behshad drawing over your painting! Call him pussyballs, a carpet pilot, sand nigger, (even though he's Persian) or something of the like and let's move on!

You are wrong. An artist I know is in legal proceedings right now over the same circumstances of being continually harrassed on the net by a group of three people and in having his copyrighted work violated.

Who is this artist you speak of ?! Steve Perry ?! let me guess , the three people are Jon, Neal and Arnel ?!

[Saint John]

You are wrong. An artist I know is in legal proceedings right now over the same circumstances of being continually harrassed on the net by a group of three people and in having his copyrighted work violated.

Okay ... let's assume I am wrong. What are your damages? How are you going to prove that you would have sold even one painting on a ... rock music site??? I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and guess that your friend's case involves a more suitable and appropriate site ... like a personal website, eBay or something where commerce is common. This is an insane asylum and you know that! A defense lawyer would introduce a colorful collection of posts from the last 5 or so years on this board and the judge would lock you up for thinking you could sell paintings here! C'mon, Phyllis, let's move forward.