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[Rockindeano]

I refuse to even talk to someone I know is a Muslim.

Wow.

Unfortunately, many Americans believe in this way of "thinking." Seriously, this country is getting more and more clueless and stupid. Hell, once we get Sarah in the White House, we will have the Dumb leading the dumber. The circle will be complete. Go Tea party!

You just can't help bashing people that work hard, take care of their kids, believe in family and are totally self-sufficient, like Sarah Palin. That just infuriates you. It seems you'd rather believe that the government was responsible for 9-11, everyone should get handouts and no one should have to work. Just sit at home, collect checks and subsidize laziness by taxing the good folks that do work. Yeah, you have a great view of what America should be.

Guess what, you're wrong yet again. I work as hard if not harder than anyone on this board. I work harder than anyone at my place of employment. You conveniently changed the subject of a scary proposed Palin administration. The question is, would YOU vote for that dumb bitch? Please answer this in view of everyone.

[Saint John]

I don't believe in any able bodied person getting a free ride. I've worked hard all my life in a job that at one time payed well, but not anymore. I've paid a very high amount of child support to the tune of over $100,000 so far, which ends at the end of this year. And I've had to live in a shithole apartment for the duration of that time. However, I'll take that every time because I have a fantastic kid to show for it, and I wouldn't trade her for anything. I hope I've instilled in her, good ethics, work and otherwise, confidence and pride enough to never have to live on handouts. With that said, people who aren't able bodied enough to work, should definitely get help, because that's just one facet of what America is about. If we're going to help the less fortunate in every other country, we should damn sure do the same at home.

I agee completely, Rick. It's the "disability club" that pisses me off. 90% of those people have absolutely nothing wrong with them (fake back injuries, bullshit mental disorders like anxiety, etc.). I had friends that sucked off the titty of the system and it's pathetic. My motto is to absolutely never accept anything for free. I just won't fucking do it. As an able bodied person, I simply wouldn't have it any other way. But, sure, persons with disabilities and retards should certainly be afforded advantages and help.

[Behshad]

I don't believe in any able bodied person getting a free ride. I've worked hard all my life in a job that at one time payed well, but not anymore. I've paid a very high amount of child support to the tune of over $100,000 so far, which ends at the end of this year. And I've had to live in a shithole apartment for the duration of that time. However, I'll take that every time because I have a fantastic kid to show for it, and I wouldn't trade her for anything. I hope I've instilled in her, good ethics, work and otherwise, confidence and pride enough to never have to live on handouts. With that said, people who aren't able bodied enough to work, should definitely get help, because that's just one facet of what America is about. If we're going to help the less fortunate in every other country, we should damn sure do the same at home.

I agee completely, Rick. It's the "disability club" that pisses me off. 90% of those people have absolutely nothing wrong with them (fake back injuries, bullshit mental disorders like anxiety, etc.). I had friends that sucked off the titty of the system and it's pathetic. My motto is to absolutely never accept anything for free. I just won't fucking do it. As an able bodied person, I simply wouldn't have it any other way. But, sure, persons with disabilities and retards should certainly be afforded advantages and help.

But all that was going on during Bush or Clintons admin and before that too. If you think Palin will put an end to it , if she gets elected , then youre as gullible as people waiting for Perry rejoining Journey

[mikemarrs]

LONDON (Nov. 25) -- A 15-year-old British girl has been arrested on suspicion of inciting religious hatred after she allegedly set fire to an English-language copy of the Koran and posted footage of the incident on Facebook.

The unidentified teenager is accused of torching the Islamic holy book at her school in Sandwell, near the city of Birmingham in central England, as other students watched. She was questioned by police on Friday and was released later that day pending further inquiries.

Police also arrested a 14-year-old boy on Tuesday on suspicion of making threats on the social networking site, in connection with the alleged burning. He has also been released on bail pending further inquiries.

The group that published the English-language version of the Koran is believed to have visited the school this week, to talk to pupils and explain the significance of the book to Muslims, the BBC reports.

Under British law, if an adult is found guilty of religious hatred -- something no one has been convicted of since the law was introduced in 2006 -- they can face up to seven years in prison, a fine or both. However, it is not clear what kind of penalty a minor found guilty of the charge would incur.

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/br ... k/19733355

[Saint John]

Guess what, you're wrong yet again. I work as hard if not harder than anyone on this board. I work harder than anyone at my place of employment. You conveniently changed the subject of a scary proposed Palin administration. The question is, would YOU vote for that dumb bitch? Please answer this in view of everyone.

I never once questioned you or your work ethic, as I have no idea what you're doing these days.

As for Palin, I'd certainly vote for her if I thought she was the best candidate. She seems to be a great mother, faithful wife, takes care of herself physically (runs 7 miles daily), was an incredible governor (highest approval rating for any governor when she was in office) and she successfully maintained a budget surplus of almost twice what Alaska needed. The state budget was 6 billion dollars and the annual state revenue was 12 billion. Additionally, each Alaskan recieved a check at the end of the year for $2,100 (she increased it by $1,200). Sounds to me like she was a fantastic governor, a responsible governor, one that could balance a budget and one that took care of the people and businesses. Yes, I'd vote for her in a second.

[Saint John]

But all that was going on during Bush or Clintons admin and before that too. If you think Palin will put an end to it , if she gets elected , then youre as gullible as people waiting for Perry rejoining Journey

And I bashed them, too. I hated it when Bush extended unemployment and hate it even more now that Obama has it at something like 99 weeks.

[trekman]

The Muslims, their Arab enablers and the pussified liberal left have allowed us to become a politically correct, neutered military power. Our weapons and vast military advantages have been taken out of play and we have had to play by their rules. We need to use brutal military force, expect and concede civilian casualties for the greater good and pay absolutely no attention to human shields. Start bombing these barbarians now and anyone that enables them. Because, if we don't, when the playing field is evened and they acquire similar technologies, they won't be as nice.

Absofuckinlutley, positively freakin true. Its Kill Or be Killed. Show No Mercy!!

If that's what you believe , then get out there and Start killing.Sign up and get to the warzone in Iraq or Afghanistan. Guess its easier to just type it from the comfort of your home
It's cause of theiridiot fundamentalists and equally morons like youself that we live in a fucked up world ...

Im too old and fat to do that. I did my service time already. Fifteen years in the Army to include the first war in Iraq. It wont be murder it will be self defense. The fight will probably be here. At least the one a lot of us are able to fight.

[Rockindeano]

Guess what, you're wrong yet again. I work as hard if not harder than anyone on this board. I work harder than anyone at my place of employment. You conveniently changed the subject of a scary proposed Palin administration. The question is, would YOU vote for that dumb bitch? Please answer this in view of everyone.

I never once questioned you or your work ethic, as I have no idea what you're doing these days.

As for Palin, I'd certainly vote for her if I thought she was the best candidate. She seems to be a great mother, faithful wife, takes care of herself physically (runs 7 miles daily), was an incredible governor (highest approval rating for any governor when she was in office) and she successfully maintained a budget surplus of almost twice what Alaska needed. The state budget was 6 billion dollars and the annual state revenue was 12 billion. Additionally, each Alaskan recieved a check at the end of the year for $2,100 (she increased it by $1,200). Sounds to me like she was a fantastic governor, a responsible governor, one that could balance a budget and one that took care of the people and businesses. Yes, I'd vote for her in a second.

Um, didn't Airhead QUIT as Governor? Dude, her approval ratings are lower than Obama's. She'll never get in anyway, so it doesn't matter.

[StevePerryHair]

The iranian government's days are nearing it's end. The majority of people want to bring them down and run a non-religious government , hopefully under Shahs son. With a little help from US , this is the best solution to secure the entire region.
Back in the 70s with US & Iran being in great relations, no one in the region dared to pull any of this shit that they're doing now. Islam was just a religion , practiced as a faith not a weapon.
Hopefully next time the young people of Iran start an attempt to overthrow the barbaric government , US will give them a much needed helping hand.

Sadly I dont see the US government ever doing that though. Even though the youth are the key there, and the majority, the people with the weapons and military will keep power. The people of Iran are going to have to find a way. The US excuse is always that the world is full of barbaric leaders and they can't save everyone. Interesting how they pick and choose who they can "save" though. The US's best bet was back in the 70's. That was the closest Iran could have been to a chance for democracy. Because they had good relations. As long as the people are weaponless in Iran, I think the people will remain powerless. It's going to take members of their own military wanting to overthrow the government maybe. Are the military treated really well there? Is that what keeps that from happening?

[Rick]

Guess what, you're wrong yet again. I work as hard if not harder than anyone on this board. I work harder than anyone at my place of employment. You conveniently changed the subject of a scary proposed Palin administration. The question is, would YOU vote for that dumb bitch? Please answer this in view of everyone.

I never once questioned you or your work ethic, as I have no idea what you're doing these days.

As for Palin, I'd certainly vote for her if I thought she was the best candidate. She seems to be a great mother, faithful wife, takes care of herself physically (runs 7 miles daily), was an incredible governor (highest approval rating for any governor when she was in office) and she successfully maintained a budget surplus of almost twice what Alaska needed. The state budget was 6 billion dollars and the annual state revenue was 12 billion. Additionally, each Alaskan recieved a check at the end of the year for $2,100 (she increased it by $1,200). Sounds to me like she was a fantastic governor, a responsible governor, one that could balance a budget and one that took care of the people and businesses. Yes, I'd vote for her in a second.

I wouldn't vote for Palin, one of the reasons being: If she can't handle a simple question of "what publications do you read" without going all "deer in the headlights", I don't want to think of how she would handle a world crisis situation.

[Rockindeano]

The iranian government's days are nearing it's end. The majority of people want to bring them down and run a non-religious government , hopefully under Shahs son. With a little help from US , this is the best solution to secure the entire region.
Back in the 70s with US & Iran being in great relations, no one in the region dared to pull any of this shit that they're doing now. Islam was just a religion , practiced as a faith not a weapon.
Hopefully next time the young people of Iran start an attempt to overthrow the barbaric government , US will give them a much needed helping hand.

Sadly I dont see the US government ever doing that though. Even though the youth are the key there, and the majority, the people with the weapons and military will keep power. The people of Iran are going to have to find a way. The US excuse is always that the world is full of barbaric leaders and they can't save everyone. Interesting how they pick and choose who they can "save" though. The US's best bet was back in the 70's. That was the closest Iran could have been to a chance for democracy. Because they had good relations. As long as the people are weaponless in Iran, I think the people will remain powerless. It's going to take members of their own military wanting to overthrow the government maybe. Are the military treated really well there? Is that what keeps that from happening?

You raise some valid points Lynn. I believe whether or not the US Government intervenes with Iran or not depends on the Administration in power. If we could ever get the real reason why the W administration went into Iraq, I would like to hear it. Some said it was for oil. Some claimed it was for Regime change, while some insisted it was to spread democracy. If Bush 43 truly went into Iraq for regime change and to spread democracy, I would be surprised. On the other hand, I can see a liberal administration like Obama/Hillary, in fact going into Iran if there were signs of abuse on its' people, or if Ahmedinjahd became too aggressive. I really think a liberal administration would act faster than a conservate one, if the reason for going in was human rights. This is not a slam against republicanism, it's just how I see things with regard to international politics.

If Obama wins a second term(please stop laughing and continue to read this), then I think you may very well see an intervention of sorts into Tehran, and a coup de'tat take place. We would have the support of the world, including many states in the middle east surrounding Iran itself, Iraq included.

[Saint John]

Um, didn't Airhead QUIT as Governor?

It was either that or run the state as part of a 3 ring circus. Most VP candidates run and, if they lose, venture back into obscurity. However, for some reason, the left hates her and she decided to resign rather than turn the office into a public spectacle. I see no crime in that.

Dude, her approval ratings are lower than Obama's. She'll never get in anyway, so it doesn't matter.

The only "approval rating" that matters is that of your constituents. Hers were phenomenal. Obama, not so much. Her record, and how sucessfully she ran the state, is all right there in plain sight for everyone to see. Kind of like Obama's 20 year relationship with a racist "spirtual advisor."

[S2M]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

[Behshad]

The iranian government's days are nearing it's end. The majority of people want to bring them down and run a non-religious government , hopefully under Shahs son. With a little help from US , this is the best solution to secure the entire region.
Back in the 70s with US & Iran being in great relations, no one in the region dared to pull any of this shit that they're doing now. Islam was just a religion , practiced as a faith not a weapon.
Hopefully next time the young people of Iran start an attempt to overthrow the barbaric government , US will give them a much needed helping hand.

Sadly I dont see the US government ever doing that though. Even though the youth are the key there, and the majority, the people with the weapons and military will keep power. The people of Iran are going to have to find a way. The US excuse is always that the world is full of barbaric leaders and they can't save everyone. Interesting how they pick and choose who they can "save" though. The US's best bet was back in the 70's. That was the closest Iran could have been to a chance for democracy. Because they had good relations. As long as the people are weaponless in Iran, I think the people will remain powerless. It's going to take members of their own military wanting to overthrow the government maybe. Are the military treated really well there? Is that what keeps that from happening?

But they DID have the democracy throughout the 70s till the '79 revolution and US was pretty much running the show together with the Shah

[Rockindeano]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

[StevePerryHair]

The iranian government's days are nearing it's end. The majority of people want to bring them down and run a non-religious government , hopefully under Shahs son. With a little help from US , this is the best solution to secure the entire region.
Back in the 70s with US & Iran being in great relations, no one in the region dared to pull any of this shit that they're doing now. Islam was just a religion , practiced as a faith not a weapon. Hopefully next time the young people of Iran start an attempt to overthrow the barbaric government , US will give them a much needed helping hand.

Sadly I dont see the US government ever doing that though. Even though the youth are the key there, and the majority, the people with the weapons and military will keep power. The people of Iran are going to have to find a way. The US excuse is always that the world is full of barbaric leaders and they can't save everyone. Interesting how they pick and choose who they can "save" though. The US's best bet was back in the 70's. That was the closest Iran could have been to a chance for democracy. Because they had good relations. As long as the people are weaponless in Iran, I think the people will remain powerless. It's going to take members of their own military wanting to overthrow the government maybe. Are the military treated really well there? Is that what keeps that from happening?

But they DID have the democracy throughout the 70s till the '79 revolution and US was pretty much running the show together with the Shah

Well, I said closest because it still was very loosely a democracy. I think it was at it's beginnings because the US was close to the shah. But even the shah had a history of violence with some of his people. It wasn't a democracy under American terms. But I think it had a better chance of getting there then, than it does now. Once they let the religious leaders in, it really ruined that chance, dont you think? And what about my military question? I mean even Hitler ended up with enemies within his own government. Could that happen in Iran? Or are they treated too well? I could see an overthrow happening, because of the passion of the people. But it just seems like it will have to happen from within. I hope it can.

[Saint John]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

Eliminate special interests, downsize government, recognize illegal aliens as criminals, balance the budget, end deficit spending, reduce personal and business income taxes, and require English as the core language.

[trekman]

If Obama wins a second term(please stop laughing and continue to read this), then I think you may very well see an intervention of sorts into Tehran, and a coup de'tat take place. We would have the support of the world, including many states in the middle east surrounding Iran itself, Iraq included.

Isnt that what Obama wants? He is one of them. He befriends terrorist nations and would prefer a one government world. Thats what THEY want too. As long as the follow Islam and Sharia Law NONE of them will change. They dont want to be our friends. They want to be our Masters. Islam means ‘submission’.

But as unpopular as he has and is becoming I cant see Americans being so stupid as to vote Obama a second time.

[Behshad]

The iranian government's days are nearing it's end. The majority of people want to bring them down and run a non-religious government , hopefully under Shahs son. With a little help from US , this is the best solution to secure the entire region.
Back in the 70s with US & Iran being in great relations, no one in the region dared to pull any of this shit that they're doing now. Islam was just a religion , practiced as a faith not a weapon. Hopefully next time the young people of Iran start an attempt to overthrow the barbaric government , US will give them a much needed helping hand.

Sadly I dont see the US government ever doing that though. Even though the youth are the key there, and the majority, the people with the weapons and military will keep power. The people of Iran are going to have to find a way. The US excuse is always that the world is full of barbaric leaders and they can't save everyone. Interesting how they pick and choose who they can "save" though. The US's best bet was back in the 70's. That was the closest Iran could have been to a chance for democracy. Because they had good relations. As long as the people are weaponless in Iran, I think the people will remain powerless. It's going to take members of their own military wanting to overthrow the government maybe. Are the military treated really well there? Is that what keeps that from happening?

But they DID have the democracy throughout the 70s till the '79 revolution and US was pretty much running the show together with the Shah

Well, I said closest because it still was very loosely a democracy. I think it was at it's beginnings because the US was close to the shah. But even the shah had a history of violence with some of his people. It wasn't a democracy under American terms. But I think it had a better chance of getting there then, than it does now. Once they let the religious leaders in, it really ruined that chance, dont you think? And what about my military question? I mean even Hitler ended up with enemies within his own government. Could that happen in Iran? Or are they treated too well? I could see an overthrow happening, because of the passion of the people. But it just seems like it will have to happen from within. I hope it can.

The region was safe and Islam was just a religion , not a threat. Shah was great and the violence he used was against those Muslims that he knew would be threats to Iran and the rest of the world.
The biggest mistake US ( Carter) made was not supporting the Shah during the Islamic revolution.

[S2M]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

I'll give you several:

Demanding a balanced Budget
simplify the tax system
auditing government agencies for corruption
limit earmarks
reduce taxes
reduce annual federal spending

why would anybody NOT want these things?


In other words, really shake up Washington, and make those fucks responsible for a change....

[Behshad]

But as unpopular as he has and is becoming I cant see Americans being so stupid as to vote Obama a second time.

That's what I thought back in 04 when Bush was reelected

[Rick]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

Eliminate special interests, downsize government, recognize illegal aliens as criminals, balance the budget, end deficit spending, reduce personal and business income taxes, and require English as the core language.

Well, I think Ike was the last Republican to preside over a balanced budget, and where there's money there's corruption. Which means they'll never get rid of Special Interest groups. I'm absolutely convinced that nobody gets into politics for the reason of serving their country. They just want their pockets lined.

The parts I've bolded are attainable goals, and if they do that, I'd call it a success.

[S2M]

But as unpopular as he has and is becoming I cant see Americans being so stupid as to vote Obama a second time.

That's what I thought back in 04 when Bush was reelected

Kinda tough to be re-elected when you weren't elected in the first place....LOL

[Behshad]

But as unpopular as he has and is becoming I cant see Americans being so stupid as to vote Obama a second time.

That's what I thought back in 04 when Bush was reelected

Kinda tough to be re-elected when you weren't elected in the first place....LOL

I stand corrected ! I meant re-cheated in

[Saint John]

He was fairly elected both times, ladies.

[Ehwmatt]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

Eliminate special interests, downsize government, recognize illegal aliens as criminals, balance the budget, end deficit spending, reduce personal and business income taxes, and require English as the core language.

I'm absolutely convinced that nobody gets into politics for the reason of serving their country. They just want their pockets lined.

I think there are some who do get into it for the right reasons, Rick. I just think even the good ones either become corrupted by the system or become disenchanted with the whole thing before they can make any changes.

[Behshad]

He was fairly elected both times, ladies.

You might as well become a muslim , since you enjoy living in that Egyptian river ...

[Rick]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

Eliminate special interests, downsize government, recognize illegal aliens as criminals, balance the budget, end deficit spending, reduce personal and business income taxes, and require English as the core language.

I'm absolutely convinced that nobody gets into politics for the reason of serving their country. They just want their pockets lined.

I think there are some who do get into it for the right reasons, Rick. I just think even the good ones either become corrupted by the system or become disenchanted with the whole thing before they can make any changes.

Certainly so, some, in the onset, and I stand corrected. I do know people that have gotten into politics with the best of intentions, only to be disenfranchised later.

[Rockindeano]

Get used to the Tea Party movement....it is here to stay, and will be in charge in due time. They have A LOT of good ideas...

Really? Name just one.

I'll give you several:

Demanding a balanced Budget
simplify the tax system
auditing government agencies for corruption
limit earmarks
reduce taxes
reduce annual federal spending

why would anybody NOT want these things?

LOL, you are inept, as is Dan on this issue. I for one don't want all these things you mentioned. I don't want a reduction in Federal spending..I want a redirection of spending from entity A to entity B. I don't want the rich to have their taxes reduced. I don't want a simplified tax system, because the rich will find yet another way to circumvent the fucking thing. Earmarks are not necessarily a bad thing either. Oh, and balance the budget, in a fucking near depression? Go study econ 101.

The Tea Party stands for a few things. let's be honest here shall we:

They want to get rid of the Mexicans, the niggers, the faggots and all taxes. They want no government at all save for defense. They don't care about anybody else but themfuckinselves. The Tea Party is fucked up, and no S2M, they are not here to stay. And if they do manage to hang around awhile, that will only hurt the GOP.

The Tea Party is about as Anti American as one can get. America was founded on different folks from different places. Have you looked at the Tea Party folks? They're 99% white, gun toting minority and homosexual hating biggots, all of them. They are as bad as the fucking Nazi's.

[Rockindeano]

He was fairly elected both times, ladies.

LOL, ok, if you say so.

He stole Florida and before Stu comes rolling in here to cite a few Floridian fishwraps, save it. When Pat Buchanon comes on and says those "19,000 votes were meant for Mr. Gore." but somehow got thrown out...well, whatever.

Then in 2004, Karl Rove weaved his criminal magic, in Ohio. There are many books on the deceitful acts played out in Ohio, but I digress. To those who were happy with W's getting "elected" twice, congratulations. Your "President" was asleep at the wheel when we were attacked by a bunch of stupid fucked, box cutter carrying, towel heads. Oh, and it occured on who's watch?

What a wonderful man, a great president, and a tremendous leader. Congratulations on voting for the worst president in US history.