New England Patriots..sports pricks of the universe...

[YoungJRNY]

How does it feel Trav to know NE is 9-2, and easily could have been 10-1...all without a Running game, Pass rush, The Slouch, and starting 4 rookies on defense...must really stick in the craw of football nation that the best run franchise in the NFL is doing all this with seemingly so little.

Dude, it's past your bedtime, lmao. The Steelers have lost most of their starting offensive line, have a rookie starting the center position, lost 2 of their defensive lineman again for the second straight year and also have 2 rookie wideouts manning up and playing those positions as well. And oh yeah, the Steelers went 3-1 to start the season & could have been EASILY 4-0 without their franchise QB out due to suspension and did it with 4th string QB's to boot! You're argument is lame since you could make the same argument for EVERY NFL team known to exist.

Regular season is one thing, but the big boys shows up in the playoffs. Right now, the playoffs haven't started so 9-2, 7-3, or 6-4 does NOT impress me.

[S2M]

For some reason I have a feeling the Super Bowl will be between any combination of these 4-5 teams:

Green Bay, Baltimore, N.Y Giants, or Pittsburgh with the kicker being San Diego.

I feel that even though the Jets have been a superb regular season team thus far, I feel they are very beatable and have peaked way too early and are due to be letdown in January. Teams like the Steelers & Ravens match up VERY well with the Jets if it came to a post-season matchup. Tom Brady looks to be in the mix of league MVP, but he hasn't thrown a pick in 6 games. One of these games down the stretch and a defense that could be exploited in the playoffs could open the door for teams like Indy or even San Diego to knock off New England late. Maybe even Baltimore since Baltimore plays N.E well in every matchup and they beat N.E last year in Foxboro as well.
I think teams like the Giants, Packers, Steelers & Ravens have room for improvement and understand their spot in their respective Conference's and I think those 4 teams are very dangerous if any of them enter the post-season. Just a feeling at the moment.

Without Wes Welker

Who gives a fuck?!?! Brady threw 2 early picks, fumbled and their defense was carved up by Ray Rice and the Ravens' running game for over 200 yards. Was Welker planning on playing linebacker or something?!?! Your excuses are too much, man. They lost because they weren't better. Period.

Absolutely....you are correct....but one thing, Dan...the Ravens beat, essentially, ...a team that had lost Bruschi, Vrabel, Seymour, Harrison, and Ellis Hobbs...that'd be like the Steelers losing Polamalu, Clark, Harrison, Timmons, Keisel, and Hampton...and then when Team A beats them claim they were slaughtered....please Dan....give it up.

[Rick]

As bad as I hate them, don't count out the Eagles. They're an outside possibility.

[YoungJRNY]

For some reason I have a feeling the Super Bowl will be between any combination of these 4-5 teams:

Green Bay, Baltimore, N.Y Giants, or Pittsburgh with the kicker being San Diego.

I feel that even though the Jets have been a superb regular season team thus far, I feel they are very beatable and have peaked way too early and are due to be letdown in January. Teams like the Steelers & Ravens match up VERY well with the Jets if it came to a post-season matchup. Tom Brady looks to be in the mix of league MVP, but he hasn't thrown a pick in 6 games. One of these games down the stretch and a defense that could be exploited in the playoffs could open the door for teams like Indy or even San Diego to knock off New England late. Maybe even Baltimore since Baltimore plays N.E well in every matchup and they beat N.E last year in Foxboro as well.
I think teams like the Giants, Packers, Steelers & Ravens have room for improvement and understand their spot in their respective Conference's and I think those 4 teams are very dangerous if any of them enter the post-season. Just a feeling at the moment.

Without Wes Welker

Who gives a fuck?!?! Brady threw 2 early picks, fumbled and their defense was carved up by Ray Rice and the Ravens' running game for over 200 yards. Was Welker planning on playing linebacker or something?!?! Your excuses are too much, man. They lost because they weren't better. Period.

Absolutely....you are correct....but one thing, Dan...the Ravens beat, essentially, ...a team that had lost Bruschi, Vrabel, Seymour, Harrison, and Ellis Hobbs...that'd be like the Steelers losing Polamalu, Clark, Harrison, Timmons, Keisel, and Hampton...and then when Team A beats them claim they were slaughtered....please Dan....give it up.

Not this fuckin argument again. You're seriously a broken record and bring up the weirdest arguments for your own satisfaction and imagination to a subject. Maybe The 9'ers wouldn't of been shutout by the Bucs if they had Montana and Rice! The Saints beating the Cowboys tonight wasn't legit because Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikmen, and Michael Irvin retired years ago! I can now see this thread going to complete feces. Good job S2M.

[S2M]

How does it feel Trav to know NE is 9-2, and easily could have been 10-1...all without a Running game, Pass rush, The Slouch, and starting 4 rookies on defense...must really stick in the craw of football nation that the best run franchise in the NFL is doing all this with seemingly so little.

Dude, it's past your bedtime, lmao. The Steelers have lost most of their starting offensive line, have a rookie starting the center position, lost 2 of their defensive lineman again for the second straight year and also have 2 rookie wideouts manning up and playing those positions as well. And oh yeah, the Steelers went 3-1 to start the season & could have been EASILY 4-0 without their franchise QB out due to suspension and did it with 4th string QB's to boot! You're argument is lame since you could make the same argument for EVERY NFL team known to exist.

Regular season is one thing, but the big boys shows up in the playoffs. Right now, the playoffs haven't started so 9-2, 7-3, or 6-4 does NOT impress me.

You will never convince me that the league didn't lay down Big Ben's punishment while the scheduler worked 'around' those missed games - scheduling cupcakes....

[YoungJRNY]

How does it feel Trav to know NE is 9-2, and easily could have been 10-1...all without a Running game, Pass rush, The Slouch, and starting 4 rookies on defense...must really stick in the craw of football nation that the best run franchise in the NFL is doing all this with seemingly so little.

Dude, it's past your bedtime, lmao. The Steelers have lost most of their starting offensive line, have a rookie starting the center position, lost 2 of their defensive lineman again for the second straight year and also have 2 rookie wideouts manning up and playing those positions as well. And oh yeah, the Steelers went 3-1 to start the season & could have been EASILY 4-0 without their franchise QB out due to suspension and did it with 4th string QB's to boot! You're argument is lame since you could make the same argument for EVERY NFL team known to exist.

Regular season is one thing, but the big boys shows up in the playoffs. Right now, the playoffs haven't started so 9-2, 7-3, or 6-4 does NOT impress me.

You will never convince me that the league didn't lay down Big Ben's punishment while the scheduler worked 'around' those missed games - scheduling cupcakes....

Uh, the teams were already picked way before Ben's suspension. The Steelers played the Falcons (8-2) traveled to Tennessee (5-5) AND Tampa Bay (7-3) with back to back road games with temps nearly hitting 120 degrees each time and also had a HUGE divisional game scheduled against Baltimore (7-3) to which we lost and could come down to make or break for the playoffs if we lost in Baltimore next Sunday. Again, your logic is too unbelievably juvenile.

[Saint John]

For some reason I have a feeling the Super Bowl will be between any combination of these 4-5 teams:

Green Bay, Baltimore, N.Y Giants, or Pittsburgh with the kicker being San Diego.

I feel that even though the Jets have been a superb regular season team thus far, I feel they are very beatable and have peaked way too early and are due to be letdown in January. Teams like the Steelers & Ravens match up VERY well with the Jets if it came to a post-season matchup. Tom Brady looks to be in the mix of league MVP, but he hasn't thrown a pick in 6 games. One of these games down the stretch and a defense that could be exploited in the playoffs could open the door for teams like Indy or even San Diego to knock off New England late. Maybe even Baltimore since Baltimore plays N.E well in every matchup and they beat N.E last year in Foxboro as well.
I think teams like the Giants, Packers, Steelers & Ravens have room for improvement and understand their spot in their respective Conference's and I think those 4 teams are very dangerous if any of them enter the post-season. Just a feeling at the moment.

Without Wes Welker

Who gives a fuck?!?! Brady threw 2 early picks, fumbled and their defense was carved up by Ray Rice and the Ravens' running game for over 200 yards. Was Welker planning on playing linebacker or something?!?! Your excuses are too much, man. They lost because they weren't better. Period.

Absolutely....you are correct....but one thing, Dan...the Ravens beat, essentially, ...a team that had lost Bruschi, Vrabel, Seymour, Harrison, and Ellis Hobbs...that'd be like the Steelers losing Polamalu, Clark, Harrison, Timmons, Keisel, and Hampton...and then when Team A beats them claim they were slaughtered....please Dan....give it up.

The Ravens beat The New England Patriots. Period. I don't need to know who was released, retired or died in a fucking drive by, and I don't care to add and subtract players from other teams. The fact remains that you spouted off that the Patriots didn't have Wes Welker, and the rest of us know he wouldn't have made enough of a difference to help the Pats win (and probably not ANY difference). So now you're off on some wild fucking tangent and acting like the Baghdad Bob of the sports world.

[S2M]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

[Saint John]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

I see you're already cuing up the excuses in the event of a playoff loss. Each team plays 8 at home and 8 on the road. Everything is balanced. Except in your dome.

[S2M]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

I see you're already cuing up the excuses in the event of a playoff loss. Each team plays 8 at home and 8 on the road. Everything is balanced. Except in your dome.

Whatever....

[Rick]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

Fuck them. I hope the whole of the New England team is infected with syphilis. I hope they're bus catches fire and they miss their next road game. I hope they accidentally kill a wild animal on the road and they get buttfucked by PETA. I hope they never, ever win another game.

[YoungJRNY]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

So, that means that New England doesn't have many consecutive AWAY games as well! Out of the 16 games played, N.E only had 2 conescutive away games already played (@ Cleve, @ Pitt.) Those teams you've mentioned also had some road games right after another. For instance:

Pittsburgh: @ Miami, @ New Orleans, @ Cincinnati.

Atlanta: @ Tampa Bay, @ Carolina, @ Seattle

..or Arizona playing their first 3/4 games on the road as well!

What the FUCK dude. I'm bowing out of this.

[Rockindeano]

For some reason I have a feeling the Super Bowl will be between any combination of these 4-5 teams:

Green Bay, Baltimore, N.Y Giants, or Pittsburgh with the kicker being San Diego.

I feel that even though the Jets have been a superb regular season team thus far, I feel they are very beatable and have peaked way too early and are due to be letdown in January. Teams like the Steelers & Ravens match up VERY well with the Jets if it came to a post-season matchup. Tom Brady looks to be in the mix of league MVP, but he hasn't thrown a pick in 6 games. One of these games down the stretch and a defense that could be exploited in the playoffs could open the door for teams like Indy or even San Diego to knock off New England late. Maybe even Baltimore since Baltimore plays N.E well in every matchup and they beat N.E last year in Foxboro as well.
I think teams like the Giants, Packers, Steelers & Ravens have room for improvement and understand their spot in their respective Conference's and I think those 4 teams are very dangerous if any of them enter the post-season. Just a feeling at the moment.

Without Wes Welker

Who gives a fuck?!?! Brady threw 2 early picks, fumbled and their defense was carved up by Ray Rice and the Ravens' running game for over 200 yards. Was Welker planning on playing linebacker or something?!?! Your excuses are too much, man. They lost because they weren't better. Period.

Absolutely....you are correct....but one thing, Dan...the Ravens beat, essentially, ...a team that had lost Bruschi, Vrabel, Seymour, Harrison, and Ellis Hobbs...that'd be like the Steelers losing Polamalu, Clark, Harrison, Timmons, Keisel, and Hampton...and then when Team A beats them claim they were slaughtered....please Dan....give it up.

Not this fuckin argument again. You're seriously a broken record and bring up the weirdest arguments for your own satisfaction and imagination to a subject. Maybe The 9'ers wouldn't of been shutout by the Bucs if they had Montana and Rice! The Saints beating the Cowboys tonight wasn't legit because Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikmen, and Michael Irvin retired years ago! I can now see this thread going to complete feces. Good job S2M.

LOL...I mean seriously, LOL..I actually was howling out loud at this post by Trav. Very good post dude. You just can't argue seriously with S2M...dude makes every excuse in the book and makes no sense at all.....It's either, "He was hurt" or "the refs blew it." It's the same shit every argument.

Truth be told, NE isn't all that. Sure, they are a well oiled machine with Bellichik and Brady, but their Defense sucks. Trav is correct, the playoffs are a different game altogether.

[Rockindeano]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

Fuck them. I hope the whole of the New England team is infected with syphilis. I hope they're bus catches fire and they miss their next road game. I hope they accidentally kill a wild animal on the road and they get buttfucked by PETA. I hope they never, ever win another game.

I am with you. As much as I respect the Pats organization, I am now rooting 100% against them because S2M has me hating them so much. I will even pull for Oakland against them if they play each other.

[Rockindeano]

How does it feel Trav to know NE is 9-2, and easily could have been 10-1...all without a Running game, Pass rush, The Slouch, and starting 4 rookies on defense...must really stick in the craw of football nation that the best run franchise in the NFL is doing all this with seemingly so little.

Dude, it's past your bedtime, lmao. The Steelers have lost most of their starting offensive line, have a rookie starting the center position, lost 2 of their defensive lineman again for the second straight year and also have 2 rookie wideouts manning up and playing those positions as well. And oh yeah, the Steelers went 3-1 to start the season & could have been EASILY 4-0 without their franchise QB out due to suspension and did it with 4th string QB's to boot! You're argument is lame since you could make the same argument for EVERY NFL team known to exist.

Regular season is one thing, but the big boys shows up in the playoffs. Right now, the playoffs haven't started so 9-2, 7-3, or 6-4 does NOT impress me.

You will never convince me that the league didn't lay down Big Ben's punishment while the scheduler worked 'around' those missed games - scheduling cupcakes....

You just proved what a complete joke you really are. You really think Goodell scanned the schedule and picked the "easiest four games that the Steelers play" as to not fuck them so hard? Trav just pointed out that Pittsburgh played pretty solid clubs; Tampa Bay, Atlanta and Baltimore w/o Big Ben....I can see Goodell doing something schemist for the likes of Favre, because of who Favre is....and he may be delaying suspending OG because this is Favre's last year, but no, I highly doubt Goodell is looking for spots to ease up on Ben and the Steelers. Man, you are either really funny, and like playing with us and agitating the living shit out of us, or you are incredibly stupid.

[S2M]

Eat shit, Deano....the ONLY game i ever said the refs blew was the '07 SB....3 NY O-Linemen were holding on that play. Now refs have missed plays, yes, but nothing egregious as to warrant a 'blew the game' comment from me....

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

I love when a lesser team celebrates a win when the opposing, better team is missing their key players....I feel like jumping through the TV and strangling them....athletes are funny breed. They only care about winning. They don't care how: whether is be cheating, or beating a depleated team....To me, the year Brady missed was a birthday gift to whomever won that year....period.

[Rockindeano]

Eat shit, Deano....the ONLY game i ever said the refs blew was the '07 SB....3 NY O-Linemen were holding on that play. Now refs have missed plays, yes, but nothing egregious as to warrant a 'blew the game' comment from me....

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

I love when a lesser team celebrates a win when the opposing, better team is missing their key players....I feel like jumping through the TV and strangling them....athletes are funny breed. They only care about winning. They don't care how: whether is be cheating, or beating a depleated team....To me, the year Brady missed was a birthday gift to whomever won that year....period.

More flawed logic.

When are you ever going to learn that a win is a win is a win. I could care less how it was achieved, be it luck, weather, injuries, whatever. NEVER make excuses. You on the other have built in excuses for every turn of the road. It's not just me saying it cumbreath- Dan has said it, as well as Travis.

So YOU can go eat shit. Come back when you are a fucking man, a real fan and have a backbone. I bet you know the entire roster of NFL, NHL, NBA refs as well as all those fuckin umpires that squeezed the Red Sox pitchers down the stretch when you were 8 games out of first...but they kept the Sox from winning the AL East right?

[YoungJRNY]

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

So does this rule apply to your Patriots? Because it seems like rules only apply to New England in your own dome (stole that from Dan.) So it's safe to say that N.E's win over Pittsburgh weeks ago was "tainted" because the Steelers were without their two starting left side of the offensive line (Max Starks, Chris Keomoeatu) both defensive ends (Brett Keisel, Aaron Smith) Hines Ward (concussion) & Lawrence Timmons? What about Indianapolis to where HALF of their starting units were out against N.E?

This is too fun. I think Deano is right, please tell me you do this to just drive us certifiably insane and nothing else....

[S2M]

Eat shit, Deano....the ONLY game i ever said the refs blew was the '07 SB....3 NY O-Linemen were holding on that play. Now refs have missed plays, yes, but nothing egregious as to warrant a 'blew the game' comment from me....

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

I love when a lesser team celebrates a win when the opposing, better team is missing their key players....I feel like jumping through the TV and strangling them....athletes are funny breed. They only care about winning. They don't care how: whether is be cheating, or beating a depleated team....To me, the year Brady missed was a birthday gift to whomever won that year....period.

More flawed logic.

When are you ever going to learn that a win is a win is a win. I could care less how it was achieved, be it luck, weather, injuries, whatever. NEVER make excuses. You on the other have built in excuses for every turn of the road. It's not just me saying it cumbreath- Dan has said it, as well as Travis.

So YOU can go eat shit. Come back when you are a fucking man, a real fan and have a backbone. I bet you know the entire roster of NFL, NHL, NBA refs as well as all those fuckin umpires that squeezed the Red Sox pitchers down the stretch when you were 8 games out of first...but they kept the Sox from winning the AL East right?

Nope...not having Perdoia, Cameron, Youkilis, and Ellsbury for 4/5 of the year is why we ended up missing the playoffs....

[Rick]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

Fuck them. I hope the whole of the New England team is infected with syphilis. I hope they're bus catches fire and they miss their next road game. I hope they accidentally kill a wild animal on the road and they get buttfucked by PETA. I hope they never, ever win another game.

I am with you. As much as I respect the Pats organization, I am now rooting 100% against them because S2M has me hating them so much. I will even pull for Oakland against them if they play each other.

That's just it. They have a great, dominant organization, but their fans are the fucking worst.

[S2M]

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

So does this rule apply to your Patriots? Because it seems like rules only apply to New England in your own dome (stole that from Dan.) So it's safe to say that N.E's win over Pittsburgh weeks ago was "tainted" because the Steelers were without their two starting left side of the offensive line (Max Starks, Chris Keomoeatu) both defensive ends (Brett Keisel, Aaron Smith) and Hines Ward (concussion)? What about Indianapolis to where HALF of their starting units were out against N.E?

This is too fun. I think Deano is right, please tell me you do this to just drive us certifiably insane and nothing else....

Well since NE doesn't have a pass rush, O-line injuries really don't come into the equation....Ward was your big miss.

And as far as Indy goes....don't even discuss Indy-NE matchups with me....I've watched more of those games than anyone in this forum save John....the only problem NE has ever had with Indy is TE....Clark is the only omission that mattered in that game. Indy still had Peyton, Freeney, and Mathis....

[YoungJRNY]

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

So does this rule apply to your Patriots? Because it seems like rules only apply to New England in your own dome (stole that from Dan.) So it's safe to say that N.E's win over Pittsburgh weeks ago was "tainted" because the Steelers were without their two starting left side of the offensive line (Max Starks, Chris Keomoeatu) both defensive ends (Brett Keisel, Aaron Smith) and Hines Ward (concussion)? What about Indianapolis to where HALF of their starting units were out against N.E?

This is too fun. I think Deano is right, please tell me you do this to just drive us certifiably insane and nothing else....

Well since NE doesn't have a pass rush, O-line injuries really don't come into the equation....Ward was your big miss.

You do know that N.E sacked Roethlisberger like 5 times, right? They came free on Roethlisberger because Belichick attacked Ben's left side (blindside) into confusing the left tackle and guard because lack of playing time between the two, let alone playing different positions? Hines was a huge blow for us to have a chance but N.E got the better of our offense because of the lack of stability of the offensive line, esp Ben's blindside. 5 sacks for a N.E team who BARELY gets one a game proves this. (Ben was only sacked 7 times all year before N.E got to him 5 times.) I credit New England. They out-coached us and took it to our weak-spots!

[Rockindeano]

Eat shit, Deano....the ONLY game i ever said the refs blew was the '07 SB....3 NY O-Linemen were holding on that play. Now refs have missed plays, yes, but nothing egregious as to warrant a 'blew the game' comment from me....

And injuries DO matter when explaining a win...granted a team can only play with who they have, but when it all comes down - if a team is missing key players than the win is tainted, sorry.

I love when a lesser team celebrates a win when the opposing, better team is missing their key players....I feel like jumping through the TV and strangling them....athletes are funny breed. They only care about winning. They don't care how: whether is be cheating, or beating a depleated team....To me, the year Brady missed was a birthday gift to whomever won that year....period.

More flawed logic.

When are you ever going to learn that a win is a win is a win. I could care less how it was achieved, be it luck, weather, injuries, whatever. NEVER make excuses. You on the other have built in excuses for every turn of the road. It's not just me saying it cumbreath- Dan has said it, as well as Travis.

So YOU can go eat shit. Come back when you are a fucking man, a real fan and have a backbone. I bet you know the entire roster of NFL, NHL, NBA refs as well as all those fuckin umpires that squeezed the Red Sox pitchers down the stretch when you were 8 games out of first...but they kept the Sox from winning the AL East right?

Nope...not having Perdoia, Cameron, Youkilis, and Ellsbury for 4/5 of the year is why we ended up missing the playoffs....

Can you PROVE that? No, you can't. The reason Boston missed the playoffs is because they didn't win as many games as the New York Yankees, the AL wild card. That is FACT. Every team has injuries. Look at the Twins. They lost the best hitter in the game, yet they managed to win their division, and oh yeah, was not Joe Maur out for a long time too? Your "logic" if one can call it that, is flawed.

[Rockindeano]

Meanwhile...back in reality. Did you know that NE is the ONLY team in the league to not have consecutive Home games this year....while 8 teams: ATL, PITT, TENN, AZ, 49ers, DET, Minny, and SD have 3 consecutive home games....ah, the balance.

Fuck them. I hope the whole of the New England team is infected with syphilis. I hope they're bus catches fire and they miss their next road game. I hope they accidentally kill a wild animal on the road and they get buttfucked by PETA. I hope they never, ever win another game.

I am with you. As much as I respect the Pats organization, I am now rooting 100% against them because S2M has me hating them so much. I will even pull for Oakland against them if they play each other.

That's just it. They have a great, dominant organization, but their fans are the fucking worst.

I always thought John from Boston was a great fan, and still do...but come to think of it, Red Sox nation is by far the worst group of Chowder heads in the entire continent. Go up and ask Blue Jay fan who he hates more, Red Sox Nation or the Bronx Bombers.....he will instantly tell you he hates Chowds.

[Rockindeano]

Hey S2M, what was the reason the Bruins lost a 3 games to nothing lead against the Flyers last year? Was it Thomas being hurt? Was it a blown offsides call against the B's on a three on one, or was it that Gary Bettman wanted the bigger market of Philadelphia in the finals to face Chicago? I am waiting with baited breath.

I already know why the Celtics lost to the Lakers, blowing that 13 point 4th quarter lead...it was clearly the blatant non calls the Celts didn't get. Those fuckin refs had money on Kobe and the Lakers. Damn refs!

Now, according to you, the four major sports championships should reside in Boston. The Pats, Bruins, Celtics and Red Sox, all were blindly robbed by the refs and umps, and add to that, crippling injuries was a huge factor that NONE of those four sports championships call Boston home. HAAHAHAHAHA

[S2M]

Hey S2M, what was the reason the Bruins lost a 3 games to nothing lead against the Flyers last year? Was it Thomas being hurt? Was it a blown offsides call against the B's on a three on one, or was it that Gary Bettman wanted the bigger market of Philadelphia in the finals to face Chicago? I am waiting with baited breath.

I already know why the Celtics lost to the Lakers, blowing that 13 point 4th quarter lead...it was clearly the blatant non calls the Celts didn't get. Those fuckin refs had money on Kobe and the Lakers. Damn refs!

Now, according to you, the four major sports championships should reside in Boston. The Pats, Bruins, Celtics and Red Sox, all were blindly robbed by the refs and umps, and add to that, crippling injuries was a huge factor that NONE of those four sports championships call Boston home. HAAHAHAHAHA

I can't tell you the exact reason the Bruins lost 4 in a row, but it did coincide with the Flyers goalie change, and a big star coming back from being out....plus Marc Savard was out with a concussion....

As far as the Celts go....it was back and forth until Perk went down with that injury....Perk getting hurt WAS the deciding factor. Cause he was handling Gasol down low.

[Rockindeano]

I give the fuck up. You win, I guess.

[S2M]

I give the fuck up. You win, I guess.

Honestly....the Lakers were lucky to get to a game 7. Allen doesn't pull that O-fer....Lakers go down in 5.

[Enigma869]

I would definitely add Green Bay into that sentence, and maybe the Jets too...and I am not so sure of the Colts anylonger. They are on the downhill side of their Manning era apex.

Green Bay belongs in the sentence. I'm with you 100% on the Colts (although they'll always be dangerous with Manning). As for the Jets...put down the crack pipe, brother. Hell, they beat the Bengals last night, and I'm reasonably certain that my high school team could beat the Bengals. Sure, the Jets have had a great season and there is ZERO doubt in my mind that they will be a formidable team in the playoffs. That said, their history is about as storied as the Bengals, so let's not turn them into one of the top franchises in the NFL before they've won a damn thing!

[Enigma869]

How does it feel Trav to know NE is 9-2

I'm sure that it feels good to Travis. As I recall, he predicted the Patriots would win 9 games this season. It looks like he was right on the money. I'm just not sure he realized that they would have 9 wins by Thanksgiving

, and easily could have been 10-1...all without a Running game, Pass rush, The Slouch, and starting 4 rookies on defense...must really stick in the craw of football nation that the best run franchise in the NFL is doing all this with seemingly so little.

To be honest with you, I truly have no idea how this Patriots team is winning. I've been watching this team forever and I really don't get it. If you look at the players on this team, there is absolutely no way that they should be 9-2. Sure, there are times when their offense looks VERY shaky and then there are times when their offense looks like it did in 2007 (with FAR less talent around them). I know this...The Patriots have the third worse defense in the entire NFL, so that won't give me a lot of confidence when the playoffs roll around. The yards they give up don't even bother me, but if their defense doesn't come up with big plays, they're fucked!