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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:48 am

Hockey was basic back then....those guys couldn'y play in today's league....No one had a shot like Iafrate's, or Chara's.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:52 am

S2M wrote:Hockey was basic back then....those guys couldn'y play in today's league....No one had a shot like Iafrate's, or Chara's.


Perhaps, but getting hit with a vulcanized rubber puck even at a slow speed doesn't feel good. I always shake my head when I see those old time goalies with zero face protection. Complete fucking insanity.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:52 am

S2M wrote:Hockey was basic back then....those guys couldn'y play in today's league....No one had a shot like Iafrate's, or Chara's.


You could say that in any sport of any era. That's why I said every dynasty has it's unique place in history of how they won when a certain league was run a specific way to fit in their time period.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:58 am

S2M wrote:Hockey was basic back then....those guys couldn'y play in today's league....No one had a shot like Iafrate's, or Chara's.


Complete horseshit. Guys like Gordie Howe, Stan Mikita, Maurice Richard and even Bobby Orr played with straight sticks...not curved ones like you see today. If you have ever played the sport you would know how much more difficult it is to get the puck in the air with a straight stick, yet those old timers did it. You are high on crack if you think Gordie Howe or Bobby Orr couldn't play in today's NHL.

And just what the fuck do you mean basic? There were actually three lines back then, as opposed to the "new" NHL where you can stretch pass from blue line to blue line. There was New Jersey Devil defense back then either, where they stand you up on the blue line and force you to dump and chase; the Devil Trap.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:00 am

Rockindeano wrote: You are high on crack if you think Gordie Howe or Bobby Orr couldn't play in today's NHL.


Couldn't agree more. Howe was the Cam Neely of his day and Bobby Orr may be the greatest player to EVER play (and yes, I mean even better than Gretsky). Orr would be the best defenseman in the league if he was playing today, period, end of story!
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Re: Greatest Sports Dynasty, EVER...Who Is It?

Postby froy » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:54 am

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quote="Enigma869"]Would love to hear from some of the great sports fans on this board. I have my answer and I honestly don't even think there is any team in any sport who is a close second, but I'd love to hear your opinion. Which team had the greatest run of winning, EVER, in any sport and why do you think that team was the most dominant team?
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Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan Era
If he did not take a break they would have won 9 in a row,
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Re: Greatest Sports Dynasty, EVER...Who Is It?

Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:33 am

froy wrote:
Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan Era
If he did not take a break they would have won 9 in a row,
Case closed


Right, and if Ted Williams didn't lose 6 years of his career when he was in his prime to go fight a war, he would have more HR's than anyone in the history of baseball. Definitely not "case closed" for me. As I said previously, as great as Jordan was, Russell won twice as many championships as Jordan. Even if I go along with your theory (which I don't), that means that era Celtics and Russell actually won more championships(and they actually won all those titles...not should have, could have or might have)!
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Postby parfait » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:01 am

France for anything soccer and tennis related. Norway for every winter sport there is.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:45 am

parfait wrote:France for anything soccer and tennis related. Norway for every winter sport there is.



Interesting.... and it has nothing to do with the fact that you are part Norwegian part French? :roll: :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:16 am

parfait wrote:France for anything soccer and tennis related. Norway for every winter sport there is.


What have you guys done that was so great for tennis in the last 40 years? You guys certainly don't have claim to the GOATs in either men's or women's and there are other countries that have been far more consistent and produced many more Slam champions, including USA and Spain.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:28 am

parfait wrote:France for anything soccer and tennis related. Norway for every winter sport there is.


Um, dude, Canada just kicked everyone's ass in the Winter Olympics in Vancouver, winning a record 20 gold medals. France was way back. Even the US won a shit ton more medals than Norway.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:33 am

parfait wrote:France for anything soccer and tennis related. Norway for every winter sport there is.


France for the unwashed body and pompous prick dynasty...I think they have the best record for not winning a war as well, something they haven't done since like Joan of Arc! :lol:

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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:35 am

France has a pretty good Surrendering Team this year....and I believe they won the White Flag Invitational last year.... :lol:

Claude Nolet is currently #1 in the world at Turn Tail, and Francois Noguts has dominated Team Scaredy Cat since 1986.... :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:47 am

France did So great during the 2010 World Cup. :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:54 am

As fas as Norway ,,, here's a joke about Norwegians :

Ole and Lars were working for the city public works department in Wisconsin.  Ole would dig a hole and Lars would follow behind and fill the hole in. They worked up one side of the street, then down the other, then moved on to the next street, working furiously all day without rest, one digging a hole, the other filling it in again.

An onlooker was amazed at their hard work, but couldn't understand what they were doing. So he asked Ole, 'I'm impressed by the effort you two are putting in to your work, but I don't get it -- why do you dig a hole, only to have your partner follow behind and fill it up again?'

Ole, the hole digger, wiped his brow and sighed, 'Vell, I suppose it probably looks odd because ve're normally a three-person team. But today Sven, who plants da trees called in sick.'
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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:02 am

Behshad wrote:As fas as Norway ,,, here's a joke about Norwegians :

Ole and Lars were working for the city public works department in Wisconsin.  Ole would dig a hole and Lars would follow behind and fill the hole in. They worked up one side of the street, then down the other, then moved on to the next street, working furiously all day without rest, one digging a hole, the other filling it in again.

An onlooker was amazed at their hard work, but couldn't understand what they were doing. So he asked Ole, 'I'm impressed by the effort you two are putting in to your work, but I don't get it -- why do you dig a hole, only to have your partner follow behind and fill it up again?'

Ole, the hole digger, wiped his brow and sighed, 'Vell, I suppose it probably looks odd because ve're normally a three-person team. But today Sven, who plants da trees called in sick.'


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Those jokes are apparently popular! How about this one...
Ole and Sven went fishing
Ole and Sven went fishing one summer and decided to rent a boat from the resort instead of fishing from the shore. They rowed out a ways and started to fish. They caught one fish after the other.

Ole says to Sven, "I wish we could mark this spot. It’s the best fishing I've seen since I was a boy."

Sven replied, "I got some chalk in my tackle box, so why don't I put an X right here on the bottom of the boat?"

Ole laughed, "You goofy brother of mine...What if we don't rent the same boat next time" :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:05 am

Behshad wrote:France did So great during the 2010 World Cup. :lol:


That is actually something to be proud of! I pull for America to lose in the first round every Cup. I don't want America being successful in that God forbidden "sport." Keep losing US!
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Postby Behshad » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:08 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Behshad wrote:France did So great during the 2010 World Cup. :lol:


That is actually something to be proud of! I pull for America to lose in the first round every Cup. I don't want America being successful in that God forbidden "sport." Keep losing US!



:lol:

Some day you will not be that proud. By 2018 I'd say. ;)
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:09 am

Rockindeano wrote:That is actually something to be proud of! I pull for America to lose in the first round every Cup. I don't want America being successful in that God forbidden "sport." Keep losing US!


Amen. Soccer blows. It's about as interesting to watch as watching flies fuck would be :shock:
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Postby Behshad » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:21 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:That is actually something to be proud of! I pull for America to lose in the first round every Cup. I don't want America being successful in that God forbidden "sport." Keep losing US!


Amen. Soccer blows. It's about as interesting to watch as watching flies fuck would be :shock:




The fact that there's more people in the world that watch the sport that's as interesting as watching flies fuck , than people watching football, baseball and basketball combined. Shows the true relevance and excitement ranking of all three aforementioned sports ;)
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:38 am

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The fact that there's more people in the world that watch the sport that's as interesting as watching flies fuck , than people watching football, baseball and basketball combined. Shows the true relevance and excitement ranking of all three aforementioned sports ;)


Sorry dude, but that argument will NEVER fly with me, considering that it's the only sport played in most of the world. It's like Dean's moronic argument that more people show up to watch a NASCAR event than to watch a football game. Of course, he conveniently forgets to mention the fact that there isn't an NFL stadium on the planet that holds half as many fans as most NASCAR venues. It's simply a dopey argument, because it doesn't really prove anything. I can tell you that it doesn't make the activity anymore interesting to me and to most Americans. The reality is that it's the most popular sport in the world, because it takes ZERO money to play the game, not because it's some genius activity that people can't get enough of.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:42 am

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The fact that there's more people in the world that watch the sport that's as interesting as watching flies fuck , than people watching football, baseball and basketball combined. Shows the true relevance and excitement ranking of all three aforementioned sports ;)


Sorry dude, but that argument will NEVER fly with me, considering that it's the only sport played in most of the world. It's like Dean's moronic argument that more people show up to watch a NASCAR event than to watch a football game. Of course, he conveniently forgets to mention the fact that there isn't an NFL stadium on the planet that holds half as many fans as most NASCAR venues. It's simply a dopey argument, because it doesn't really prove anything. I can tell you that it doesn't make the activity anymore interesting to me and to most Americans. The reality is that it's the most popular sport in the world, because it takes ZERO money to play the game, not because it's some genius activity that people can't get enough of.



Sorry to burst your bubble but more and more Americans show interest in soccer and two more generations from now soccer will be as popular as football in this country. ;)
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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:44 am

Well with the way the economy is going, I can see an America where kids can only afford a soccer ball in the future.... :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:46 am

S2M wrote:Well with the way the economy is going, I can see an America where kids can only afford a soccer ball in the future.... :lol:


:lol: that's not too far off! Sports in public schools require parents to pay fees out of pocket now, to make up for education budget cuts. Soccer is a much cheaper sport. Kids love it too.
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Postby Maui Tom » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:14 pm

how can hockey be waved off by saying it was a different game back then......The NBA wasn't also? Those Celtics win all those titles in today's NBA even with TWO Bill Russell's?
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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:24 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:Hockey was basic back then....those guys couldn'y play in today's league....No one had a shot like Iafrate's, or Chara's.


Complete horseshit. Guys like Gordie Howe, Stan Mikita, Maurice Richard and even Bobby Orr played with straight sticks...not curved ones like you see today. If you have ever played the sport you would know how much more difficult it is to get the puck in the air with a straight stick, yet those old timers did it. You are high on crack if you think Gordie Howe or Bobby Orr couldn't play in today's NHL.

And just what the fuck do you mean basic? There were actually three lines back then, as opposed to the "new" NHL where you can stretch pass from blue line to blue line. There was New Jersey Devil defense back then either, where they stand you up on the blue line and force you to dump and chase; the Devil Trap.


What I mean is that the players didn't shoot anywhere near as hard...don't get me wrong - the players back then were skilled...but for the times. And the standouts just happened to be more skilled than the average players OF THAT ERA. There is not ONE player back then who could play in today's game. First of all the goalies are 100X more talented than those of the 50s, 60s, and even 70s....and don't forget, any stat you wish to bring up was tallied against the subpar players of that era....so you really can't defend the counterpoint. I've seen the saves made by goalies as recent as the 70s...those guys were slow as molasses....and had very limited mobility(as a whole). Again, there are always standouts. I guarantee that the current roster of the Oilers would beat ANY Stanley Cup Canadien team prior to let's say ...1980.

Also, I've played goalie in various leagues since my Boys Club days..a curved stick has very limited effect on 'lift'. The curve actually has more effect on lateral control of the puck. What has the major effect on 'lift' of the puck is Face Angle, which is same concept as club angle in golf....
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Postby gr8dane » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:42 pm

S2M wrote:Well with the way the economy is going, I can see an America where kids can only afford a soccer ball in the future.... :lol:


So should we blame Bush or Obama for this?
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Postby Melissa » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:32 pm

Love the "flies f*cking" reference, one of George Carlin's best, but he gave that honor to golf! :lol: GOLF is THE most boring sport ever created IMO :lol:

Why such hate from you manly men about soccer? :lol: Why is football (which cracks me up that it's called that because do their FEET ever even TOUCH the ball except for field goals? :lol: ) any better? Now don't get me wrong, I realize it's a "big" thing here in the U.S., and my father loves it so I grew up with it on TV, and even sat and (painfully, lol) watched some with him yesterday, lol. What's the actual time the ball is even in play, about 10 minutes? :lol: But it takes, what, FOUR HOURS for a game to be aired? :lol: It can be entertaining though, love the ballet dancing some of them do when they score or whatever, and at least their outfits fit the dancing :lol: And I guess it's kind of cute when they hug each other, bang helmets, and give each other ass slaps :lol: Good thing they're wearing mouth guards or I think some of them would have their tongues down each other's throats right there on the field! :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:35 pm

Melissa wrote:Love the "flies f*cking" reference, one of George Carlin's best, but he gave that honor to golf! :lol: GOLF is THE most boring sport ever created IMO :lol:

Why such hate from you manly men about soccer? :lol: Why is football (which cracks me up that it's called that because do their FEET ever even TOUCH the ball except for field goals? :lol: ) any better? Now don't get me wrong, I realize it's a "big" thing here in the U.S., and my father loves it so I grew up with it on TV, and even sat and (painfully, lol) watched some with him yesterday, lol. What's the actual time the ball is even in play, about 10 minutes? :lol: But it takes, what, FOUR HOURS for a game to be aired? :lol: It can be entertaining though, love the ballet dancing some of them do when they score or whatever, and at least their outfits fit the dancing :lol: And I guess it's kind of cute when they hug each other, bang helmets, and give each other ass slaps :lol: Good thing they're wearing mouth guards or I think some of them would have their tongues down each other's throats right there on the field! :lol:



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Postby parfait » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:08 pm

I guess it's time for me set you overweight, untravelled transfat eating fucktards right. Not only is Norway the best nation to live in by an official UN report; we're also the best nation in the world when it comes to sports, considering we're just 4 858 200 people, where 1/5 is lazy ass immigrants who won't do shit.

Norway has currently won 263 medals in the recent winter olympics. The US is a far second with 193 medals. Our handball team, both female and male, are some of the best in the world. The world's best chess player is Norwegian. We have one of the world's best female golf players, as well as in volleyball. Our soccer team is looking extremely good this year. Not to mention having the well as having the worlds greatest cyclist sprinter. Norway pioneered mountaineering and mountain climbing, and is today a gathering point for most, if not all types of extreme sports. Oh, and we kick ass in sailing too. We got the worlds best rally and motorcross drivers as well. Almost forgot: we're the worlds best orienteerers.

Norway ranks as the second wealthiest country in the world in monetary value, with the largest capital reserve per capita of any nation as well. Pretty amazing considering the population ratio in Norway compared to the US is 1/63.

The France myth is just ridicilous. Rudyard Kipling, said about the French: "Their business is war, and they do their business." Since 387 BC, France has fought 168 major wars against such badasses as the Roman Empire, the British Army and the Turkish forces. Their track record isn't too shabby, either: They've won 109, lost 49 and drawn (or as close as you can "draw" a war) 10 times.

And while it is true that France surrendered to Germany relatively early in WWII, that was only because they hadn't picked themselves up after WWI yet. And WWI (despite being an entire "I" lower) wasn't exactly an anemic playground chickenfight--the French suffered about 5.7 million casualties (the war killed or wounded an incredible 37 million people worldwide).

France is the most underestimated military force in the world as well, with the third highest military spending on the planet and an estimated 300 nuclear warheads at their disposal.

And then I'm not even going into the fact that without the French, then we wouldn't have any democracy at all. The US wouldn't even exist if it weren't for guys like Montesquieu and Rousseau. I mean, people; the US is a shitstain in world history compared to titans such as France, Spain and England. The only reason you people actually are a country today is because of Europeans wanted a place to chill in the summer.
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