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Postby Saint John » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:09 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Saint John wrote: Jeter has lost a significant amount of range,


He never had any range to lose!


I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:31 am

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I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.


Jeter is a first ballot Hall Of Famer. No argument from me, AT ALL. That said, the guy's defense was always VERY overrated. He doesn't commit many errors because he simply doesn't to get balls that most major league shortstops get to.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:32 am

By the way, in spite of Jeter's HOF credentials, the contract that the Yankees just gave the guy is fucking ABSURD! Whoever authorized that contract should be given a piss test, immediately!
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Postby Saint John » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:42 am

Enigma869 wrote:By the way, in spite of Jeter's HOF credentials, the contract that the Yankees just gave the guy is fucking ABSURD! Whoever authorized that contract should be given a piss test, immediately!


It should also be mentioned that Jeter was a real scumbag during the negotiations. The Yankees should have stared him down. What was he gonna do?!?! No one would have even come close to the 3 years and 45 million the Yankees initially offered!
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:00 am

Saint John wrote:It should also be mentioned that Jeter was a real scumbag during the negotiations. The Yankees should have stared him down. What was he gonna do?!?! No one would have even come close to the 3 years and 45 million the Yankees initially offered!


Couldn't agree more. Jeter should be kissing the ground over the fact the Yankees were that stupid. Sort of like Ortiz pissing and moaning over the fact that the Red Sox picked up his one year option (as opposed to a new contract) for $12m when the going rate for a DH these days is about half of that.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:40 am

I keep reading reports the Sox are still attempting to re-sign Beltre. WTF? Where are they going to put Youkilis? Right field? Shortstop?
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:59 am

Seven Wishes wrote:I keep reading reports the Sox are still attempting to re-sign Beltre. WTF? Where are they going to put Youkilis? Right field? Shortstop?


I love Beltre. I love the way that guy swings from his heels. If they keep him, they could cut Cameron loose put Youk in left and move Crawford to right field.

Good article and a few good points on the Red Sox possible lineup this coming season...

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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:15 am

conversationpc wrote:I love Beltre. I love the way that guy swings from his heels. If they keep him, they could cut Cameron loose put Youk in left and move Crawford to right field.

Good article and a few good points on the Red Sox possible lineup this coming season...

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... n:twit:sox


The Red Sox aren't re-signing Beltre...take it to the bank. Youkilis also isn't going to left. It's bad enough for Youkilis that he's being taken off of first (a position he's won a gold glove at). A reporter actually asked Youkilis about playing left field just two days ago and he made it quite clear that he will not play the outfield. As for Crawford, it sounds like Francona will be hitting him third in what should be a pretty solid lineup with both Youkilis and Pedroia back. Even if their pitching is just okay, I can't see the Sox not winning their division. Hell, they won almost 90 games last season with Youkilis and Pedroia out for most of the season and Beckett and Lackey completely sucking all season long.
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Postby annie89509 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:54 pm

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Ftloperry wrote:Jeter is the best shortstop in the league today. He got a sweet deal and they obviously think he is worth the money.


What a fucking MORONIC statement! Jeter isn't close to "the best shortstop in the league" and even when he was in his prime (which isn't now), he was always a VERY average shortstop. The fact that he was awarded a gold glove last season is a complete fucking embarrassment to anyone who has ever called themselves a baseball fan!


Jeter had an excellent season defensively last year. To only commit 6 errors in 151 games is a great accomplishment. That said, the league's best defensive shortstop is Elvis Andruws. The guy has more range, a better arm and is just as fluid as they come. Jeter has lost a significant amount of range, some arm strength and just can't go get those balls in the outfield and in foul territory like he used to. But he's still extremely solid.

As for Ftloperry's statement , Hanley Ramirez and Troy Tulowitzki are both better than Jeter. And that's just off the top of my head.

Tulowitzki plays for Denver in the NL, and Ftlosp referred only to the AL where Jeter plays in (as she posted above). Don't know all the players in the AL, as I mainly followed the Giants in the NL, so never heard of HRamirez.

As for Ortiz, I've always thought of him as the 1st Baseman of the Bosox. Didn't know he mostly DH's, anyway. As I said, I mostly follow the NL... SD is in the same division as the Giants, so not shedding any tears over the Padres losing their all-star , Gonzales...lol.
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Postby S2M » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:05 pm

Yankees out of the running for Lee....it's all over but the crying!!!

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Postby Rick » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:19 pm

S2M wrote:Yankees out of the running for Lee....it's all over but the crying!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8


So he's heading back to the Phillies?
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Postby geminix » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:56 pm

Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873
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Postby S2M » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:05 pm

geminix wrote:Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873


Yep....back to the JV league where he can feast on subpar batting..... :roll: :lol:
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Postby jestor92 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:11 am

Ftloperry wrote:Jeter is the best shortstop in the league today. He got a sweet deal and they obviously think he is worth the money.

When the Yanks acquired Aroid Jeter wasn't even the best SS on his team. Hell defensively he still isn't Eduardo Nunez is much better than he is defensively.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:49 am

annie89509 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
Ftloperry wrote:Jeter is the best shortstop in the league today. He got a sweet deal and they obviously think he is worth the money.


What a fucking MORONIC statement! Jeter isn't close to "the best shortstop in the league" and even when he was in his prime (which isn't now), he was always a VERY average shortstop. The fact that he was awarded a gold glove last season is a complete fucking embarrassment to anyone who has ever called themselves a baseball fan!


Jeter had an excellent season defensively last year. To only commit 6 errors in 151 games is a great accomplishment. That said, the league's best defensive shortstop is Elvis Andruws. The guy has more range, a better arm and is just as fluid as they come. Jeter has lost a significant amount of range, some arm strength and just can't go get those balls in the outfield and in foul territory like he used to. But he's still extremely solid.

As for Ftloperry's statement , Hanley Ramirez and Troy Tulowitzki are both better than Jeter. And that's just off the top of my head.

Tulowitzki plays for Denver in the NL, and Ftlosp referred only to the AL where Jeter plays in (as she posted above). Don't know all the players in the AL, as I mainly followed the Giants in the NL, so never heard of HRamirez.

As for Ortiz, I've always thought of him as the 1st Baseman of the Bosox. Didn't know he mostly DH's, anyway. As I said, I mostly follow the NL... SD is in the same division as the Giants, so not shedding any tears over the Padres losing their all-star , Gonzales...lol.


She said "league," which could very well mean all of baseball. MLB stands for Major League Baseball. Regardless, the post was vague in terms of what is he the best at. Best all-around, best defensively, both leagues or all of the above? :? For my money, a .270 hitter with 10 homers and 100+ strikeouts isn't the best in either league! :wink:
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:42 am

The Phillies are the Yankees of the National League.

It's no guarantee of anything, though. The Braves had Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux, and a few good years by Avery, and still only won one World Series...and that was back before the wild-card round.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:29 am

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I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.


Jeter is a first ballot Hall Of Famer. No argument from me, AT ALL. That said, the guy's defense was always VERY overrated. He doesn't commit many errors because he simply doesn't to get balls that most major league shortstops get to.


This is what I was attempting(poorly) to say about Jeter committing a "shit ton of errors." I was simply saying, it can't be an error if you can't get to it. I watched most of their games on the dish, and he has definitley lost range, a lot of range. I think Ramirez is the best shortstop in the game, and I said it before, I think the Yankees would be better defensively if they switched their 5 and 6 position players. I would love to see Alex at SS.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:32 am

S2M wrote:
geminix wrote:Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873


Yep....back to the JV league where he can feast on subpar batting..... :roll: :lol:


Your amazing run of being a complete sports moron is getting more and more impressive with every post. The JV league huh? You mean the league that just won the World Series? Your moronic streak is approaching the greatness of Favre's recent start streak.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:37 am

Seven Wishes wrote:The Phillies are the Yankees of the National League.

It's no guarantee of anything, though. The Braves had Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux, and a few good years by Avery, and still only won one World Series...and that was back before the wild-card round.


And before anyone annoints the Fightin's as NL and WS champs, look back to last year. They had a shit ton of injuries, remember? Utley, Howard, the SS, and others were all out for significant time. They had to get white hot to run down Atlanta and get into the post season. You still have quality teams to contrend with who have their own good pitching; Cincinnati, Atlanta, St. Louis, San Diego and oh yeah, San Francisco. With the exception of STL, all those teams are younger than the Phillies.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:08 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:
geminix wrote:Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873


Yep....back to the JV league where he can feast on subpar batting..... :roll: :lol:


Your amazing run of being a complete sports moron is getting more and more impressive with every post. The JV league huh? You mean the league that just won the World Series? Your moronic streak is approaching the greatness of Favre's recent start streak.


I wouldn't call the NL the JV league but the AL has won most of the recent World Series and All-Star Games, not to mention the majority of the inter-league games over the past several years. In fact, I think the NL has only won the majority of inter-league contests four times since those games began.
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Postby comedyisnotpretty » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:32 pm

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lights1961 wrote: the Jeter 3 year deal makes the most sense


Really? Paying Jeter (who will be 37 during the season next year) $17 million dollars per season coming off of the worse season he has ever had "makes sense"? I think it was a fucking absurd contract. 37 year old players don't get better (unless it's Barry Bonds pumping every substance under the sun into his ass cheek)! I think the Red Sox are fucking insane for paying Carl Crawford $20 million dollars per season, because in my opinion, he's not that kind of a player. That said, I'll take Crawford for $20m per over Jeter at $17m per 100 out of 100 times!


The Yankees were idiots here. They caved to Jeter [who I liked, tho not a Yankess fan] because he whined he was the modern day equivalent to Ruth, because they thought it would turn into a PR mess.

Boston made some nice, but pricey moves. Now if those freaking asshole McCourts can get their crap together and do something good with my Dodgers I'll be happy. Maybe they can sell them, I can only hope!


The only good thing the McCourts can do is to sell the team. The sooner, the better. Until then, they will be in a holding pattern and going no where but backwards. By the way, I am a lifetime Dodger fan. Pray for me!
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:52 pm

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marco17 wrote:
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lights1961 wrote: the Jeter 3 year deal makes the most sense


Really? Paying Jeter (who will be 37 during the season next year) $17 million dollars per season coming off of the worse season he has ever had "makes sense"? I think it was a fucking absurd contract. 37 year old players don't get better (unless it's Barry Bonds pumping every substance under the sun into his ass cheek)! I think the Red Sox are fucking insane for paying Carl Crawford $20 million dollars per season, because in my opinion, he's not that kind of a player. That said, I'll take Crawford for $20m per over Jeter at $17m per 100 out of 100 times!


The Yankees were idiots here. They caved to Jeter [who I liked, tho not a Yankess fan] because he whined he was the modern day equivalent to Ruth, because they thought it would turn into a PR mess.

Boston made some nice, but pricey moves. Now if those freaking asshole McCourts can get their crap together and do something good with my Dodgers I'll be happy. Maybe they can sell them, I can only hope!


The only good thing the McCourts can do is to sell the team. The sooner, the better. Until then, they will be in a holding pattern and going no where but backwards. By the way, I am a lifetime Dodger fan. Pray for me!


I live in this Godforesaken town and it's pretty obvious that the Angels are the superior ownership/team. The McCourts could learn a thing or two from Arte Moreno.
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Postby comedyisnotpretty » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:59 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
comedyisnotpretty wrote:
marco17 wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
lights1961 wrote: the Jeter 3 year deal makes the most sense


Really? Paying Jeter (who will be 37 during the season next year) $17 million dollars per season coming off of the worse season he has ever had "makes sense"? I think it was a fucking absurd contract. 37 year old players don't get better (unless it's Barry Bonds pumping every substance under the sun into his ass cheek)! I think the Red Sox are fucking insane for paying Carl Crawford $20 million dollars per season, because in my opinion, he's not that kind of a player. That said, I'll take Crawford for $20m per over Jeter at $17m per 100 out of 100 times!


The Yankees were idiots here. They caved to Jeter [who I liked, tho not a Yankess fan] because he whined he was the modern day equivalent to Ruth, because they thought it would turn into a PR mess.

Boston made some nice, but pricey moves. Now if those freaking asshole McCourts can get their crap together and do something good with my Dodgers I'll be happy. Maybe they can sell them, I can only hope!


The only good thing the McCourts can do is to sell the team. The sooner, the better. Until then, they will be in a holding pattern and going no where but backwards. By the way, I am a lifetime Dodger fan. Pray for me!


I live in this Godforesaken town and it's pretty obvious that the Angels are the superior ownership/team. The McCourts could learn a thing or two from Arte Moreno.


Darn skippy! The McCourts are a joke. They could learn more than a thing or two from the owner of the Angels. Nothing chaps my hide more than having to watch the Biants win the stinkin' world series!
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Postby S2M » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:14 pm

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I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.


Jeter is a first ballot Hall Of Famer. No argument from me, AT ALL. That said, the guy's defense was always VERY overrated. He doesn't commit many errors because he simply doesn't to get balls that most major league shortstops get to.


This is what I was attempting(poorly) to say about Jeter committing a "shit ton of errors." I was simply saying, it can't be an error if you can't get to it. I watched most of their games on the dish, and he has definitley lost range, a lot of range. I think Ramirez is the best shortstop in the game, and I said it before, I think the Yankees would be better defensively if they switched their 5 and 6 position players. I would love to see Alex at SS.


Wrong. The best DEFENSIVE SS in the game is Alex Gonzalez. Hanley has the offense. But Alex can get to everything and anything.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:26 pm

S2M wrote:
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Enigma869 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.


Jeter is a first ballot Hall Of Famer. No argument from me, AT ALL. That said, the guy's defense was always VERY overrated. He doesn't commit many errors because he simply doesn't to get balls that most major league shortstops get to.


This is what I was attempting(poorly) to say about Jeter committing a "shit ton of errors." I was simply saying, it can't be an error if you can't get to it. I watched most of their games on the dish, and he has definitley lost range, a lot of range. I think Ramirez is the best shortstop in the game, and I said it before, I think the Yankees would be better defensively if they switched their 5 and 6 position players. I would love to see Alex at SS.


Wrong. The best DEFENSIVE SS in the game is Alex Gonzalez. Hanley has the offense. But Alex can get to everything and anything.


:roll: :roll:

Do you even watch the fucking game of baseball? Gonzalez is a good SS but hardly the range of Ramirez nor half the arm. Alex was so good, Toronto basically gave him to Atlanta.
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Postby S2M » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:28 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.


Jeter is a first ballot Hall Of Famer. No argument from me, AT ALL. That said, the guy's defense was always VERY overrated. He doesn't commit many errors because he simply doesn't to get balls that most major league shortstops get to.


This is what I was attempting(poorly) to say about Jeter committing a "shit ton of errors." I was simply saying, it can't be an error if you can't get to it. I watched most of their games on the dish, and he has definitley lost range, a lot of range. I think Ramirez is the best shortstop in the game, and I said it before, I think the Yankees would be better defensively if they switched their 5 and 6 position players. I would love to see Alex at SS.


Wrong. The best DEFENSIVE SS in the game is Alex Gonzalez. Hanley has the offense. But Alex can get to everything and anything.


:roll: :roll:

Do you even watch the fucking game of baseball? Gonzalez is a good SS but hardly the range of Ramirez nor half the arm. Alex was so good, Toronto basically gave him to Atlanta.


Cause he can't fucking hit. Are you really this obtuse?!
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:46 pm

S2M wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
I hate the Yankees and can't stand Jeter, but that's just not true. That guy was always chasing down balls in the outfield, throwing out people from short left field and had great range up the middle. Not to mention making special plays in big moments like smashing his face in foul territory and that incredible cut-off play against the A's. Some people just have "it," and he's one of them.


Jeter is a first ballot Hall Of Famer. No argument from me, AT ALL. That said, the guy's defense was always VERY overrated. He doesn't commit many errors because he simply doesn't to get balls that most major league shortstops get to.


This is what I was attempting(poorly) to say about Jeter committing a "shit ton of errors." I was simply saying, it can't be an error if you can't get to it. I watched most of their games on the dish, and he has definitley lost range, a lot of range. I think Ramirez is the best shortstop in the game, and I said it before, I think the Yankees would be better defensively if they switched their 5 and 6 position players. I would love to see Alex at SS.


Wrong. The best DEFENSIVE SS in the game is Alex Gonzalez. Hanley has the offense. But Alex can get to everything and anything.


:roll: :roll:

Do you even watch the fucking game of baseball? Gonzalez is a good SS but hardly the range of Ramirez nor half the arm. Alex was so good, Toronto basically gave him to Atlanta.


Cause he can't fucking hit. Are you really this obtuse?!


Yeah ok dude, I am obtuse. :roll:

The guy hit 250 with 23 HR's and 88 RBI. Pretty good for a guy who played in the AL East and the NL East.
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Postby comedyisnotpretty » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:05 pm

geminix wrote:Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873


I am laughing my butt off! He turned down the Yankees who were offering up a lot more money? Guess you can't buy everyone if they don't want to play for you! The Yankees are getting older, not necessarily better. Ba ha ha! :lol: :lol: :!:
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Postby S2M » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:06 pm

comedyisnotpretty wrote:
geminix wrote:Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873


I am laughing my butt off! He turned down the Yankees who were offering up a lot more money? Guess you can't buy everyone if they don't want to play for you! The Yankees are getting older, not necessarily better. Ba ha ha! :lol: :lol: :!:


The guy pulled a Lebron....plain and simple. Went to a stacked team because his team got punked in the WS. Went to the bush league. NEXT!
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Postby Rick » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:16 pm

comedyisnotpretty wrote:
geminix wrote:Yes he has just signed with Philly. Yeah!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7841873


I am laughing my butt off! He turned down the Yankees who were offering up a lot more money? Guess you can't buy everyone if they don't want to play for you! The Yankees are getting older, not necessarily better. Ba ha ha! :lol: :lol: :!:


I have to think that the Yankees fans spitting on his wife might have influenced his decision too.
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