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Postby brandonx76 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:55 am

JH'sTXfan wrote:Prove that's not Perry. :wink:

This one has visuals... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os5OwJv4 ... re=related 8)


WHAT THE ??!?! High quality audio on this show? Sounds like Captured quality - anyone know / have the full show?!
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:21 pm

brandonpfn wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:Prove that's not Perry. :wink:

This one has visuals... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os5OwJv4 ... re=related 8)


WHAT THE ??!?! High quality audio on this show? Sounds like Captured quality - anyone know / have the full show?!


That's on Rick's youtube channel. (Thanks, Rick!) Maybe he has the rest of the show...
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Postby Rick » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:24 pm

JH'sTXfan wrote:
brandonpfn wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:Prove that's not Perry. :wink:

This one has visuals... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os5OwJv4 ... re=related 8)


WHAT THE ??!?! High quality audio on this show? Sounds like Captured quality - anyone know / have the full show?!


That's on Rick's youtube channel. (Thanks, Rick!) Maybe he has the rest of the show...


I snagged that show off of another forum, can't remember which one, but I lost it when my backup hard drive failed.. I never figured out which forum it was, where I got it, and didn't look for it too hard, but I'll bet it's still out there somewhere.

I'm not sure what others use to make their videos, but I used Nero's Vision program with it set to Highest Quality, and it came out pretty good. Very big files to upload though, so it took a lot of time.
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Postby jrny10 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:14 pm

Why didn't they go for this guy?

The only "doppelganger" so far that actually bears a close resemblance to Perry for real.
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Postby Aaron » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:11 am

I was lucky enough to see Jason in late 95/early 96 a couple of years before Journey got rolling again with SA. The dude was was REALLY good and sounded just like Perry did from 78-80 on the good stuff before Rolie split. His band during that period was tight as well. You really couldn't tell if you were listening to Captured or not at the show I seen. Listen to Jason at the 1:18 mark on that barber shop clip. The dude naturally has THE voice. How Fro missed Jason during the rounds 1,2 and 3 of trolling for a new singer is amazing to me. But then again, no one has accused Fro of being the sharpest tool in the shed either. Kelty is good, really good.
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Postby mick » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:08 am

Don't know if anyone has posted this but here's a link to the Escape MySpace page with some audio samples for anyone interested. http://www.myspace.com/originalescape
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Postby Deb » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:56 am

Rick wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
brandonpfn wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:Prove that's not Perry. :wink:

This one has visuals... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os5OwJv4 ... re=related 8)


WHAT THE ??!?! High quality audio on this show? Sounds like Captured quality - anyone know / have the full show?!


That's on Rick's youtube channel. (Thanks, Rick!) Maybe he has the rest of the show...


I snagged that show off of another forum, can't remember which one, but I lost it when my backup hard drive failed.. I never figured out which forum it was, where I got it, and didn't look for it too hard, but I'll bet it's still out there somewhere.

I'm not sure what others use to make their videos, but I used Nero's Vision program with it set to Highest Quality, and it came out pretty good. Very big files to upload though, so it took a lot of time.


Hell of a teacher too, Rickster. Thanks to you walking me through it step by step, the quality of my uploads is much better now too. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5KPqIyj6ZI

LOLing at the comment underneath "dude". :lol:
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:11 pm

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Here is this only thing I can find of him lone. Singing in a barbershop thing. When he opens his mouth for a 10 second solo you here the Perry. He cant help it.

He is too the right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YWuQbASlZA


You know you could put Kelty's solo on a 3 minute loop and it would be better than everything on "Generations", and most of the stuff off of "Revelations". And this coming from someone who fuckin' hates coffee!!!:lol:
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:48 am

mick wrote:Don't know if anyone has posted this but here's a link to the Escape MySpace page with some audio samples for anyone interested. http://www.myspace.com/originalescape


Sucks that these recordings have the drums bouncing off of a wall in the room making the timing seem off. The drums are reaching the mic later than the rest of the mix.

I know Jason has soundboard recordings of Escape shows from their prime. Why he wont upload them is anyone guess. Anyone ask him ? Last time I spoke with him was before he started singing secular music again and he had no intention of releasing that stuff. Maybe he feels differing now. Anyone in touch with him ?
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Postby jrny10 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:45 am

Having listened to the studio demos on their Myspace I must say it's very frustrating that this guy's not in the band right now, because apart from being the only one of the doppelgangers so far to come close to sounding like Perry... the one thing that truly separates him from the rest: he even has the Perry feel/vibe/sadness in his voice, which is what makes him the right man for the job.

Check out his take on Lovin' You Is Easy - wow!!
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:30 pm

jrny10 wrote:Having listened to the studio demos on their Myspace I must say it's very frustrating that this guy's not in the band right now, because apart from being the only one of the doppelgangers so far to come close to sounding like Perry... the one thing that truly separates him from the rest: he even has the Perry feel/vibe/sadness in his voice, which is what makes him the right man for the job.

Check out his take on Lovin' You Is Easy - wow!!



He can certainly cover Perry, but I'd be MUCH more interested in hearing what his style is on original material. There is a big difference in Perry and finding the closest person out there to sound like Perry. It's not the same.

Finding a lead singer is more than finding a soundalike. You have to get to a certain benchmark that is "close enough", but doing the songs justice is much higher on the list than Perry-cloneability.
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Postby Jana » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:47 pm

Aaron wrote:I was lucky enough to see Jason in late 95/early 96 a couple of years before Journey got rolling again with SA. The dude was was REALLY good and sounded just like Perry did from 78-80 on the good stuff before Rolie split. His band during that period was tight as well. You really couldn't tell if you were listening to Captured or not at the show I seen. Listen to Jason at the 1:18 mark on that barber shop clip. The dude naturally has THE voice. How Fro missed Jason during the rounds 1,2 and 3 of trolling for a new singer is amazing to me. But then again, no one has accused Fro of being the sharpest tool in the shed either. Kelty is good, really good.


I doubt he ever would have been a good fit in other ways. He left secular music for a long time. He doesn't seem like the type that would want to be on the road at all looking at the direction his life took with non-secular music.
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:21 pm

Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:I was lucky enough to see Jason in late 95/early 96 a couple of years before Journey got rolling again with SA. The dude was was REALLY good and sounded just like Perry did from 78-80 on the good stuff before Rolie split. His band during that period was tight as well. You really couldn't tell if you were listening to Captured or not at the show I seen. Listen to Jason at the 1:18 mark on that barber shop clip. The dude naturally has THE voice. How Fro missed Jason during the rounds 1,2 and 3 of trolling for a new singer is amazing to me. But then again, no one has accused Fro of being the sharpest tool in the shed either. Kelty is good, really good.


I doubt he ever would have been a good fit in other ways. He left secular music for a long time. He doesn't seem like the type that would want to be on the road at all looking at the direction his life took with non-secular music.


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Postby texafana » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:55 pm

Not as impressed with Jason live (on the escape live tracks) as everyone else is. Voice doesn't sound that great to me. Actually, he sounds like a mix of Soto with Perry isms. Which certainly isn't bad...but not the Arnel beater some of you would think he is.
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:54 pm

Sorry, Seen him live many times. Arnel cant even think about touching him. Forget that he tries to sing like Perry for a moment and consider this. He often did live ad-libs that were his own and they kicked ass. Very musical, right place right time and crystal clear mega power. Arnel has lots of power but very little nuance and zero dynamics. Arnel is belting or whispering. Little grey area there. Good emotional delivery but again, Kelty kicks his ass in every way especially in emotional deliver. Jason didnt copy that from perry. You can copy tone but you cant fake emotion Kelty felt the songs as if they were his own. Again, this cant be faked. You would have had to seen them live. I am pro musician and was floored by EVERY member of the 94 line up escape.

I have said it before. If they played the same night as the real thing I would go see escape unless Perry was there. Why ? Simple. They sounded more like Journey than Journey and I want to hear me some Rollie Era Journey all da time. Yes it was a tribute act but what you saw was more than than that. These guys had chemistry especially Jason and Scott Psota the guitar player. He nailed it as good as Jason in every way. IF they has set their minds to write and been able to do it I can only image what they could have written.
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Postby Rick » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:06 pm

I got this message from the guitar player today.
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Hey man.
My name is Scott and I'm the guitar player from ESCAPE--with Jason Kelty. I followed this link from your profile on Melodic Rock Forums. I've been trying to get on the forums there to spread the word that ESCAPE has reformed with Jason and original members and is booking shows. I have not been able to register--never received the email from the admin that they ok'd my account so I can't post up yet. I was hoping you could do me a favor and spread the word and if possible, pm the admin so I can get on the forums there. I appreciate the help. Here's our new website address too.
www.escapethejourneytribute.com.

Thanks!!!!

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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:23 pm

Rick wrote:I got this message from the guitar player today.
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Hey man.
My name is Scott and I'm the guitar player from ESCAPE--with Jason Kelty. I followed this link from your profile on Melodic Rock Forums. I've been trying to get on the forums there to spread the word that ESCAPE has reformed with Jason and original members and is booking shows. I have not been able to register--never received the email from the admin that they ok'd my account so I can't post up yet. I was hoping you could do me a favor and spread the word and if possible, pm the admin so I can get on the forums there. I appreciate the help. Here's our new website address too.
www.escapethejourneytribute.com.

Thanks!!!!

Scott


That's awesome news Rick!!! Thanks! :D I think his vocals on Faithfully are the best I've ever heard besides Perry. He is hands down the closest, best tribute to Perry on the planet. I WILL get to one of their shows if it's feasible. :D
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Postby texafana » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:16 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Sorry, Seen him live many times. Arnel cant even think about touching him.


On the younger Jason he sounds DEAD on SP, especially on Lovin You Is Easy. But on the newer stuff, his voice has obviously thickened, his timbre (spelling?) sounds much fuller. He's a very good singer, but I think 40'ish Arnel sounds better than 40'ish Jason. If you listen to the tracks here: http://www.escapethejourneytribute.com./samples.html you can easily tell the difference between the young (Loving You) and older (Faithfully) Jason. The highs on Faithfully sound a bit weak, obvious falsetto now, etc. Still....don't want to dis-respect because he still sounds VERY GOOD and will blow away alot of other tribute singers.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:28 am

Rick wrote:I got this message from the guitar player today.
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Hey man.
My name is Scott and I'm the guitar player from ESCAPE--with Jason Kelty. I followed this link from your profile on Melodic Rock Forums. I've been trying to get on the forums there to spread the word that ESCAPE has reformed with Jason and original members and is booking shows. I have not been able to register--never received the email from the admin that they ok'd my account so I can't post up yet. I was hoping you could do me a favor and spread the word and if possible, pm the admin so I can get on the forums there. I appreciate the help. Here's our new website address too.
www.escapethejourneytribute.com.

Thanks!!!!

Scott


He needs to loose the tails, they were goofy enough on Perry, completely laughable on a tribute singer.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:48 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
Rick wrote:I got this message from the guitar player today.
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Hey man.
My name is Scott and I'm the guitar player from ESCAPE--with Jason Kelty. I followed this link from your profile on Melodic Rock Forums. I've been trying to get on the forums there to spread the word that ESCAPE has reformed with Jason and original members and is booking shows. I have not been able to register--never received the email from the admin that they ok'd my account so I can't post up yet. I was hoping you could do me a favor and spread the word and if possible, pm the admin so I can get on the forums there. I appreciate the help. Here's our new website address too.
www.escapethejourneytribute.com.

Thanks!!!!

Scott


He needs to loose the tails, they were goofy enough on Perry, completely laughable on a tribute singer.
Are you insane?!?
no tails and they would've just been boleros ...the tails were sexy as hell!!
Goofy=Elton John's attire ...but I wouldn't change that either, it's who they are!!
But yeah ...noone else needs to wear the tails!! :wink:



Yaaaaayyyy about the news though ....thanks Rick!!
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Postby Saint John » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:30 am

NoMoreTails wrote:He needs to loose the tails, they were goofy enough on Perry, completely laughable on a tribute singer.


Perry has long been mocked for those ridiculous, self-absorbing digs. He single-handedly gave Journey the "chick band" stigma. The guy just never gave off any vibe of masculinity.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:40 am

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NoMoreTails wrote:He needs to loose the tails, they were goofy enough on Perry, completely laughable on a tribute singer.


Perry has long been mocked for those ridiculous, self-absorbing digs. He single-handedly gave Journey the "chick band" stigma. The guy just never gave off any vibe of masculinity.


But Jon Cain looked every bit the Brawny Paper Towel Dude, dressed in a bumble bee t-shirt playing behind a candy apple red piano. :roll: Yeah, that just yelled out "masculinity" to the audience. Don't forget Schon with that ridiculous lid he wore...I believe he 5 fingered it from Perry's Street Talk costume trunk.

Oh, and least I forget, Ross Valory, that verey average white bass player, performing live on stage in front of 15,000 folks, in Mr Goodwrench overall's.

All these goofy fuckers gave off gay overtones except Smith, who was hidden behind the kit, and even he wore wristbands for Christs' sake! Who does he think he is, Dusty Baker?
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Postby Ritchie » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:52 am

texafana wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:Sorry, Seen him live many times. Arnel cant even think about touching him.


On the younger Jason he sounds DEAD on SP, especially on Lovin You Is Easy. But on the newer stuff, his voice has obviously thickened, his timbre (spelling?) sounds much fuller. He's a very good singer, but I think 40'ish Arnel sounds better than 40'ish Jason. If you listen to the tracks here: http://www.escapethejourneytribute.com./samples.html you can easily tell the difference between the young (Loving You) and older (Faithfully) Jason. The highs on Faithfully sound a bit weak, obvious falsetto now, etc. Still....don't want to dis-respect because he still sounds VERY GOOD and will blow away alot of other tribute singers.


Yes I agree.
If you listen to Kelty`s "Don`t stop believin" which I assume is a studio recording and you compare it to Pineda`s Revelation studio version you hear Kelty has to work real hard for those high notes,Pineda`s higher notes on those parts sound more effortless and pristine but obviously Kelty is an excellent singer who sounds great on those Journey songs and his voice has a resemblance to Steve Perry`s voice.
So no Pineda beater for me but I would enjoy seeing and hearing Kelty singing live!
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:01 am

Kelty is good alright. I do think he strains a bit more than Pineda, but then again, maybe he IS trying to sound like Espee?

More importantly, is that the original Journey music kelty is singing to? Sure as shit sounds like Schon on Faithfully.
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:01 am

The best guy is singing for Journey right now and the others are just what they are......good tribute band singers.

Rockindeano wrote:Kelty is good alright. I do think he strains a bit more than Pineda, but then again, maybe he IS trying to sound like Espee?

More importantly, is that the original Journey music kelty is singing to? Sure as shit sounds like Schon on Faithfully.


Yes, it works kind of like Karaoke. :wink:
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:05 am

steveo777 wrote:The best guy is singing for Journey right now and the others are just what they are......good tribute band singers.


Just how good does Pineda's cock sauce taste, Steve? He is good for sure, but Kelty brings NO accent to the table. I just can't get past the horrible accent.

Oh and by the way, your sentence is retarded. Jeremey Hunsicker IS a tribute singer and once was offered the gig. Arnel Pineda WAS a tribute singer who got the gig. The fact is a tribute singer is singing in Journey. You can't spin this, even through your sperm filled eyes, you must be able to see that this is the case.
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:13 am

Rockindeano wrote:
steveo777 wrote:The best guy is singing for Journey right now and the others are just what they are......good tribute band singers.


Just how good does Pineda's cock sauce taste, Steve? He is good for sure, but Kelty brings NO accent to the table. I just can't get past the horrible accent.

Oh and by the way, your sentence is retarded. Jeremey Hunsicker IS a tribute singer and once was offered the gig. Arnel Pineda WAS a tribute singer who got the gig. The fact is a tribute singer is singing in Journey. You can't spin this, even through your sperm filled eyes, you must be able to see that this is the case.


I give Jeremey and Pineda about the same score. Pineda blows Jeremey away on vocal strength, while Jeremey doesn't have the accent issues.
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Postby Don » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:28 am

Arnel is a cover singer who works for Journey and spends his down time 7,000 miles away singing '80s medleys in night clubs. There's a reason that articles still hightlight Perry while giving barely any notice to Arnel, the guy has simpley shown about as much innovation/creativity as a boulder at The Rockhead and Quarry Cave Construction Company. Despite now having the resources and time to put out some original stuff, he continues to plunder other artist's works in the name of supporting his charity. He's more a representative of other '80s bands when he is not in the Journey camp as those acts are the ones getting pub from his singing endeavors overseas.
When it comes to Journey, the guy is 100% HG, nothing more.
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Postby Ritchie » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:45 am

Rockindeano wrote:Kelty is good alright. I do think he strains a bit more than Pineda, but then again, maybe he IS trying to sound like Espee?

More importantly, is that the original Journey music kelty is singing to? Sure as shit sounds like Schon on Faithfully.


That Escape band sounds fantastic,the guitarplayer nailed that solo on "Faithfully".
A lot of singers wish they sound like Perry but than again if they do they wouldn`t get a price for originality.
A singer hired by Journey probably is in a constant state of ambivalent conflicts because he has to sound like Perry and if he does he is a "fucking copycat" and if he doesn`t he isn`t "up to par" and not suitable to be a Journey singer.
Pineda and Journey did Oprah maybe next time they visit the DR Phil show. :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:01 am

Ritchie wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kelty is good alright. I do think he strains a bit more than Pineda, but then again, maybe he IS trying to sound like Espee?

More importantly, is that the original Journey music kelty is singing to? Sure as shit sounds like Schon on Faithfully.


That Escape band sounds fantastic,the guitarplayer nailed that solo on "Faithfully".
A lot of singers wish they sound like Perry but than again if they do they wouldn`t get a price for originality.
A singer hired by Journey probably is in a constant state of ambivalent conflicts because he has to sound like Perry and if he does he is a "fucking copycat" and if he doesn`t he isn`t "up to par" and not suitable to be a Journey singer.
Pineda and Journey did Oprah maybe next time they visit the DR Phil show. :lol:


Might as well, since that's where all the other dysfunctional families go. Perry needs to go with them and maybe Dr. Phil can help Perry reveal why he never really felt like a part of the band. :D :wink:
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