Rule Changes in Sports

[S2M]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

[Behshad]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

Yep. No stoppage in football except between quarters. Play 15 minutes straight. End of quarter . Play 15 minutes straight etc etc ...

[conversationpc]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

1 - Get rid of the illegal defense in the NBA, aka "defensive three second" rule and just let the teams play whatever kind of defense they want to play.

2 - Nix the possession arrow in college and high school basketball. The jump balls certainly aren't an exact science but it makes no sense to me to do a possession arrow. If anything, the ball should go to the defense since the offense couldn't maintain control of the ball for the entire time on the shot clock.

3 - Throw out the NBA rule where taking a timeout allows you to advance the ball to half court. Makes no sense at all.

4 - Get rid of the NFL rule that allows the QB to slide so no one can hit him. That pisses me off.

5 - Make a holding penalty either 10 yards for BOTH offensive and defensive holding or 5 yards each. Why is one 10 yards and the other only 5?

6 - Make ALL the players on offense eligible for a pass/run. This declaring yourself eligible to the ref is stupid. How often is the QB going to throw or hand off to a 350-pounder anyway?

[RedWingFan]

6 - Make ALL the players on offense eligible for a pass/run. This declaring yourself eligible to the ref is stupid. How often is the QB going to throw or hand off to a 350-pounder anyway?

Dude, how is a defensive lineman supposed to rush the QB and be expected to cover an eligible lineman?

[StevePerryHair]

Well, with your rule of not calling you out.....I got nothin!!!

[S2M]

Looks like I should go first....dopes.

Baseball

If a pitcher gives up a hit, then gets taken out, if the next pitcher allows him to score it usually goes against the first pitcher's stats. I don't agree with that. If the runner is in scoring position(2nd or 3rd base) then the run is attributed to the first pitcher. But if the runner is on 1st, then subsequently scores; the run should be charged to the reliever.

Hockey

Get rid of offsides. If a team wants to cheat up towards the other team's zone, so be it. It puts them at a defensive disadvantage. I say let them gamble.

Goalie Intererence - If a goalie comes out of his crease, he is fair game. Bruins lost a game against Buffalo Wednesday because of this lame rule. Goalie has more protection than the Michelin Man, yet you can't touch him. Lame.

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

Football

Get rid of intentional grounding - meaning that QBs are not allowed to just chuck the ball. Either fall on the ground, or try and run. Being able to just whip the ball when in trouble is a cop out.

Touchdowns - possesion and 2 feet down equals TD. None of this having to carry the ball all the way to the ground crap. If you run it in only an electron has to cross the line, but if you throw it in the stars have to align, and 87 things have to occur? Lame.

The call on the field takes precedence - I never understood this logic. There has to conclusive evidence to overturn a call on the field, but if the call was wrong in the first place - what conclusive evidence did the referee have in making the original call?! Lame.

Pass Interference - make it a 15 yard penalty, and not a spot foul. I'm tired seeing teams that are getting their asses kicked just chucking the ball 60yds down the field in hopes of getting a gift from the refs. Take your 15 yds and STFU already.

Blocks in the back during punts and kickoffs - get rid of this penalty. This isn't hockey. There is no board to smash your dome on. You are wearing a helmet. get over it. Tired of seeing TDs brought back 80yds due to some guy who got embarrassed.


Basketball

Nix the AND 1 - you got the basket - stop whining.

[Don]

Get rid of the fair catch rule. Hell, call Vince McMahon, get his rule book from the XFL and incorporate it into the NFL.

[S2M]

Well, with your rule of not calling you out.....I got nothin!!!

Hockey - if your team tanks 3 years in a row to get the 1st pick in the draft - you get penalized. Malkin, Staal, Crosby.

Can you say collusion?

[Jonny B]

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

One-up that. Goalie goes into the penalty box, and the Net remains empty for the power play.

I'd also like to see icing calls on the Power Play. No free passes for the team with the penalty. You ice it, it comes back to your zone, no line change as by regular rules.

[StevePerryHair]

Well, with your rule of not calling you out.....I got nothin!!!

Hockey - if your team tanks 3 years in a row to get the 1st pick in the draft - you get penalized. Malkin, Staal, Crosby.

Can you say collusion?

No, but I CAN say bullshit

[Enigma869]

5 - Make a holding penalty either 10 yards for BOTH offensive and defensive holding or 5 yards each. Why is one 10 yards and the other only 5?

The yardage on defensive holding has never been particularly relevant, because it's always an automatic first down, and that's all anyone really cares about.

[conversationpc]

6 - Make ALL the players on offense eligible for a pass/run. This declaring yourself eligible to the ref is stupid. How often is the QB going to throw or hand off to a 350-pounder anyway?

Dude, how is a defensive lineman supposed to rush the QB and be expected to cover an eligible lineman?

Well, that would be up to the defensive lineman, wouldn't it? Think about it....The offensive linemen are the only ones who can't do anything that all the other players on their side of the ball can do.

[Melissa]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

Yep. No stoppage in football except between quarters. Play 15 minutes straight. End of quarter . Play 15 minutes straight etc etc ...

Agreed, lol. Don't soccer players run something an average of about 5-6 MILES per GAME? That's amazing! And all because they PLAY the whole time and don't stop every 7 1/2 seconds with a whistle blow and "ah, ah, ah! Stop the play! #47's left shoelace is longer than the right one! TIMEOUT!"

[ebake02]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

The excessive celebration rule in the NFL and get rid of that stupid rule they have against hard hits.

[conversationpc]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

The excessive celebration rule in the NFL and get rid of that stupid rule they have against hard hits.

The rule isn't against hard hits but against hitting with the helmet or against a defenseless player. I don't think having a WR stretched out to receive a pass should have to worry about being obliterated and possibly ending a career. The tackler can make a good tackle without trying to separate the guy's head from his body.

[ebake02]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

The excessive celebration rule in the NFL and get rid of that stupid rule they have against hard hits.

The rule isn't against hard hits but against hitting with the helmet or against a defenseless player. I don't think having a WR stretched out to receive a pass should have to worry about being obliterated and possibly ending a career. The tackler can make a good tackle without trying to separate the guy's head from his body.

Some of the hits that the No Fun League has fined players for weren't all that bad. You have to admit, the NFL has gone way overboard with fines for hard hits lately. Seems like they play favorite too. They fine James Harrison numerous for seemingly harmless hits but the buffalo defender who knocked old man Farve out the game a couple weeks ago wasn't fined at all.

[conversationpc]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

The excessive celebration rule in the NFL and get rid of that stupid rule they have against hard hits.

The rule isn't against hard hits but against hitting with the helmet or against a defenseless player. I don't think having a WR stretched out to receive a pass should have to worry about being obliterated and possibly ending a career. The tackler can make a good tackle without trying to separate the guy's head from his body.

Some of the hits that the No Fun League has fined players for weren't all that bad. You have to admit, the NFL has gone way overboard with fines for hard hits lately. Seems like they play favorite too. They fine James Harrison numerous for seemingly harmless hits but the buffalo defender who knocked old man Farve out the game a couple weeks ago wasn't fined at all.

Most of the hits that have drawn fines have been legit from the ones I've seen.

[YoungJRNY]

There's already too much going on with rule changes and new rules within all leagues. Keep it the same because the formula is apart of the game.

Only thing I would change in football would be defensive pass interference and the spot of the foul. Instead of giving an offense the spot of the foul (which sometimes makes a 10 yard penalty into a 65 yard penalty) they should re-create the rule from the line of scrimmage and not where the foul occurred, there's too many rules today that benefit the offensive anyhow.

[Rockindeano]

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

One-up that. Goalie goes into the penalty box, and the Net remains empty for the power play.

I'd also like to see icing calls on the Power Play. No free passes for the team with the penalty. You ice it, it comes back to your zone, no line change as by regular rules.

Both of you turds stick to watching cream puff basketball.

S2M, your ideas are about as grand as General Custer's. My God you are warped.

[Rockindeano]

There's already too much going on with rule changes and new rules within all leagues. Keep it the same because the formula is apart of the game.

Only thing I would change in football would be defensive pass interference and the spot of the foul. Instead of giving an offense the spot of the foul (which sometimes makes a 10 yard penalty into a 65 yard penalty) they should re-create the rule from the line of scrimmage and not where the foul occurred, there's too many rules today that benefit the offensive anyhow.

I disagree Y2J. the reason the NFL changed this I think, is that defenses would intentionally commit PI infractions, especially in the closing minutes of a half or game, because it was only 15 yds a pop. Hell, in a prevent defense where a team has to go 80 yds in 26 seconds, I would instruct my db's to commit PI every down. It would take the other team 6 plays to score. I like this rule in the NFL over CFB's. The BIGGEST problem is that IMHO, PI calls are made too frequently. Officials in the NFL mimmick those whistle happy ass clowns in the NBA, and anticipate penalties. This is football for Christs sake, not powder puff pussy basketball. Allow some fucking contact! Some of the calls in the NFL are getting way too soft. Goodell better nip this shit in the bud.

[Rockindeano]

a Serious topic, guys....no calling me out on how I complain about offciating. Just wonder if there are useless rules you want to see changed.

Discuss...

Yep. No stoppage in football except between quarters. Play 15 minutes straight. End of quarter . Play 15 minutes straight etc etc ...

Agreed, lol. Don't soccer players run something an average of about 5-6 MILES per GAME? That's amazing! And all because they PLAY the whole time and don't stop every 7 1/2 seconds with a whistle blow and "ah, ah, ah! Stop the play! #47's left shoelace is longer than the right one! TIMEOUT!"

First off Melissa, you are so sweet, that I could never rip into you, but I have to respond to your shoelace smack. First off, there is never an official timeout and stopping the clock for an untied shoelace, except in College, where safety is a number one priority...however, in the case of Michigan QB, he plays with his shoes completely untied, and loose as can be. Now back to your comment about stopping the clock for an untied shoe...are you telling me that's worse than a soccer player going down like he was shot by the Taliban, when in fact he tripped over a blade of grass? More times than not, there is NEVER even contsct- they fake injuries all the time. It's not just me saying this, everyone knows it. These guys fall like they have been shot from the third story from the book depository building.

NO, they don't run 5 miles a game. If you watcch soccer, and I know that's extremely difficult to do, but if you watch that shit, they walk more than the million man march guys do on Washington. You see them sprint ocassionally...but most of the time, they walk...maybe jog here and there, then walk some more. I am serious here. You have to be in a lot better shape to play football(the REAL kind), than you do for soccer.

Asa for the NFL, I see your point a little bit. If the damn games weren't stopped so frequently for commercials every 3 minutes, I would love to see the clock stop after every play, to give us more plays....The clock running does take away plays...but if you were to stop the clock after every play, it would take forever. Now Behshad, if you want to see football played the way you advbocate the way it should be played, watch the College chmpionship game with Oregon. They have a hurry up offense. They run a play every 15 seconds. It's great to watch and opposing teams drag ass trying to defend it.

[S2M]

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

One-up that. Goalie goes into the penalty box, and the Net remains empty for the power play.

I'd also like to see icing calls on the Power Play. No free passes for the team with the penalty. You ice it, it comes back to your zone, no line change as by regular rules.

Both of you turds stick to watching cream puff basketball.

S2M, your ideas are about as grand as General Custer's. My God you are warped.

I want point by point reasons why my suggestions are warped. NOW!

[Deb]

Looks like I should go first....dopes.

Baseball

If a pitcher gives up a hit, then gets taken out, if the next pitcher allows him to score it usually goes against the first pitcher's stats. I don't agree with that. If the runner is in scoring position(2nd or 3rd base) then the run is attributed to the first pitcher. But if the runner is on 1st, then subsequently scores; the run should be charged to the reliever.

Hockey

Get rid of offsides. If a team wants to cheat up towards the other team's zone, so be it. It puts them at a defensive advantage. I say let them gamble.

Goalie Intererence - If a goalie comes out of his crease, he is fair game. Bruins lost a game against Buffalo Wednesday because of this lame rule. Goalie has more protection than the Michelin Man, yet you can't touch him. Lame.

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

Football

Get rid of intentional grounding - meaning that QBs are not allowed to just chuck the ball. Either fall on the ground, or try and run. Being able to just whip the ball when in trouble is a cop out.

Touchdowns - possesion and 2 feet down equals TD. None of this having to carry the ball all the way to the ground crap. If you run it in only an electron has to cross the line, but if you throw it in the stars have to align, and 87 things have to occur? Lame.

The call on the field takes precedence - I never understood this logic. There has to conclusive evidence to overturn a call on the field, but if the call was wrong in the first place - what conclusive evidence did the referee have in making the original call?! Lame.

Pass Interference - make it a 15 yard penalty, and not a spot foul. I'm tired seeing teams that are getting their asses kicked just chucking the ball 60yds down the field in hopes of getting a gift from the refs. Take your 15 yds and STFU already.

Blocks in the back during punts and kickoffs - get rid of this penalty. This isn't hockey. There is no board to smash your dome on. You are wearing a helmet. get over it. Tired of seeing TDs brought back 80yds due to some guy who got embarrassed.


Basketball

Nix the AND 1 - you got the basket - stop whining.

I know next to nothing and care even less about the other sports you mentioned...........but as for the hockey ones I agree, especially the offside one.

[Melissa]

Dean I was actually being a smart alec about the shoelace thing, I didn't even know that really does happen!!

[StevePerryHair]

Dean I was actually being a smart alec about the shoelace thing, I didn't even know that really does happen!!

Smart ass... geez!!! SMART ASS!! I can see this mean training is going to take awhile....

[Rockindeano]

Dean I was actually being a smart alec about the shoelace thing, I didn't even know that really does happen!!

Damn you! I got so worked up about what you sauid, I had to log off and cool down for awhuile. Like I said, had it been S2M saying what you said, I would have scudded his asshole to smithereens.

[StevePerryHair]

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

One-up that. Goalie goes into the penalty box, and the Net remains empty for the power play.

I'd also like to see icing calls on the Power Play. No free passes for the team with the penalty. You ice it, it comes back to your zone, no line change as by regular rules.

Both of you turds stick to watching cream puff basketball.

S2M, your ideas are about as grand as General Custer's. My God you are warped.

I want point by point reasons why my suggestions are warped. NOW!

I think he decided to wait awhile....

[S2M]

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

One-up that. Goalie goes into the penalty box, and the Net remains empty for the power play.

I'd also like to see icing calls on the Power Play. No free passes for the team with the penalty. You ice it, it comes back to your zone, no line change as by regular rules.

Both of you turds stick to watching cream puff basketball.

S2M, your ideas are about as grand as General Custer's. My God you are warped.

I want point by point reasons why my suggestions are warped. NOW!

I think he decided to wait awhile....

Thanks, Fraulein Obvious.....

[Rockindeano]

I know next to nothing and care even less about the other sports you mentioned...........but as for the hockey ones I agree, especially the offside one.

Oh Hell No! Offsides is great rule. Who the Hell wants to watch little guys skate in alone every other play? If you want endless layups and tip ins, go watch NBA where NO defense is played and it's all about glamour points. Those guys would rather look good and lose than look bad and win.

The NHL got rid of the 2 line pass 5 years ago, and that has indeed opened up the game somewhat. However, it takes a fluidity from a team, great passing and skating, and heads up to make a 3 on 2 rush onsides. Hockey is a beautiful game when played properly by skilled teams. It's tough to beat tic tac toe passing magic....when the Sedin Twins come down with Burrows and it's a click, click click pass, then boom into the net, it's a thing of beauty. Watching kane, Sharp and Toews do the same thing is awesome. If there were no offsides, we would just have the lone cherry picker standing down on the opposing teams slot, and of course, a defenceman shadowing him....Gee, what fun? That would nulify all the full speed skating, crisp passing and hustle, as well as odd man rushes that are exciting as all hell, with drop passes and such...defencemen joing the rush, blasting lasers off the goalie's domes....the structure of hockey can be brutal at times, but elegant as well. depends on the talent invbolved. if you have a Devil and Sabre matchup, you will see clutching and grabbing, slow speed hockey with hits....versus a Vancouver-Pittsburgh game where you have shit tons of talent on both sides and the game flows very well.

[Rockindeano]

If a Goalie commits a penalty, HE has to serve it. Take the cheatin fuck out and put in the backup, or whatever.

One-up that. Goalie goes into the penalty box, and the Net remains empty for the power play.

I'd also like to see icing calls on the Power Play. No free passes for the team with the penalty. You ice it, it comes back to your zone, no line change as by regular rules.

Both of you turds stick to watching cream puff basketball.

S2M, your ideas are about as grand as General Custer's. My God you are warped.

I want point by point reasons why my suggestions are warped. NOW!

I think he decided to wait awhile....

Thanks, Fraulein Obvious.....

If you want me to refute your idea of the goaltender serving his owen penalty, I am not going to waste my time or the bandwidth of Andrea's site. Come on S2M, you're better than this. If you wanted a better idea than what you suggested, make the goalie take off his leg pads and make him play goal for two minutes without them. That sounds as good as your idea. An even better idea would be to make it a 3 minute penalty when the Goalie commits a penalty.