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Postby Clasicrockldy » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:10 am

as it contains an anti-gay slur. WTF? This song has been around for a good 25 years, and NOW Canada says it is to be banned because of that? Where were these people 25 years ago? Read below ...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/13/dire-straits-song-banned-canada-anti-gay-slur/

It was No. 1 in 1985, but it's unacceptable for Canadian eyes and ears today.

The Dire Straits song "Money for Nothing" was ruled by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council to be "extremely offensive" and thus inappropriate for airing on radio or television because it uses an anti-gay slur.

The decision against St. John's radio station CHOZ-FM in Newfoundland was released Wednesday. In it, the panel ruled that the word "faggot" "contravened the Human Rights Clauses" and its ethics code and is "no longer" permitted "even if entirely or marginally acceptable in earlier days."

Ron Cohen, the CBSC's national chairman, told The Washington Times on Thursday that the decision effectively sets a "nationwide" precedent binding on all private license holders for TV, cable-TV and radio broadcasting. It does not cover the state-run Canadian Broadcasting Corp. or "community and university" stations.

Nor, Mr. Cohen said, does his Council have any authority over the Internet and therefore such music-delivery methods as online downloads or Internet-based book or record stores. Indeed, Mr. Cohen noted, "OZ FM could stream ['Money for Nothing'] on its Website and play it that way" without violating the ruling.
A still image from the video for Dire Straits' A still image from the video for Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing"

The Canadian broadcasters' "Ethics and Equitable Portrayal Code" requires them to "ensure that their programming contains no abusive or unduly discriminatory material or comment which is based on matters of … sexual orientation" among other things.

Mr. Cohen said the decision is final and not appealable. He said membership in the self-regulating Council is voluntary, though its 760 members include almost all private Canadian broadcasters.

CHOZ did not return a phone call from The Times requesting comment.

Asked about whether the decision could be appealed through courts, Mr. Cohen mentioned the case of the Quebec radio station CHOI-FM, which he said left the voluntary Council in disputes over the use of abusive language.

What happened then, he said, was that the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, a government body analogous to America's Federal Communications Commission, rejected the station's bid to renew its license. As a legal case was winding its way through Canada's courts, in the CRTC's favor to that point, the license to use the frequency was sold and the case became moot.

Though the decision does not bind Canadian record stores, Canada has broad human-rights policies and tribunals that may give the broadcasting decision probative value.

Jeff Barber, owner and manager of Sonic Boom records in Toronto, said he was not sure whether his store had ever played the song or its album into the street on its external speakers, though he guessed that in 10 years of operation, it probably had.

"We certainly don't have an issue with that and would be willing to do so," he told The Times, adding that he was uncertain whether doing so would create a legal or public issue for his store.

In the song, Dire Straits' lead singer Mark Knopfler sings in the persona of an appliance-installer looking at his store's TV section and gawking "at them yo-yos [who] play the guitar on the MTV."

The manual laborer expresses a mixture of admiration, dismissal and envy about the musicians' occupation as "ain't working" but allowing them to get "money for nothing and your chicks for free."

The offending line occurs in the third verse, where the worker gawks at MTV showing "the little faggot with the earring and the makeup." Two other uses of the word occur, referring to the performer having "his own jet airplane" and being a millionaire. At the time such MTV male stars as Boy George, Softcell and the Human League either dressed as women or wore sexually ambiguous makeup.

While the full "Money for Nothing" track and its groundbreaking video both contain the offending verse, some versions of the single since 1985, for both sale and some airplay, have dispensed with the whole third verse. Shortening lengthy singles for reasons of airplay time — the full album cut runs 7 minutes and the video about 4½ — is common, regardless of content issues, in the U.S., Canada and elsewhere.

The reference to "chicks for free" and a later line about "banging on bongos like a chimpanzee" also has caused criticism of the song as sexist and racist.

Mr. Cohen said those words in the edited version of the song likely could stay because "the panel found no other problem" with the song besides the gay references.

Mr. Knopfler has said he wrote the song impromptu after overhearing some workers at an appliance shop, more or less saying what the song does, and using some of the same language.

"I borrowed a bit of paper and started to write the song down in the store. I wanted to use a lot of the language that the real guy actually used when I heard him, because it was more real," he said in 1985.

There was no immediate response to a request for comment from publicists listed at Mr. Knopfler's website.

"Money for Nothing" was a huge international hit, reaching No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the U.S., and the same position in Canada. It won the year's best video at one of the first MTV Video Music Awards, received the Grammy for best rock song by a group or duo, and was named one of the Top 100 guitar songs of all time by Rolling Stone magazine.

When MTV Europe began airing in 1987, "Money for Nothing," which begins with Sting's opening falsetto whisper "I want my MTV," was the first video played.

© Copyright 2011 The Washington Times, LLC.





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Postby lights1961 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:17 am

classic... but yet, these same folks thinks it alright that rappers who have in their lyrcs... kill that cop or rape that bitch is acceptable on the radio... hmmmm. but little fagot with the big jet airplane is a millionaire... gets the boot... how funny and ironic...


ALL STATIONS in Canada should now all be playing Money for Nothing 24/7..... for the next week... ;-)
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Re: Canada bans the song "Money for Nothing" from

Postby Deb » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:19 am

Heard that on our classic rock station here last week. Absolutely ridiculous! LOL the radio guys were none to kind to the goof that brought this to attention. Seriously? Nothing better to do than raise a stink about 25 year old song lyrics? :roll: :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:22 am

And take a wild guess who the ruling party in Canada is now? Conservatives or the Liberals?
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:41 am

Rockindeano wrote:And take a wild guess who the ruling party in Canada is now? Conservatives or the Liberals?


This is being done under existing laws that have been on the books in Canada for years. There've been radio broadcasters who've lost their licenses there saying things considered to be anti-gay. It's nothing new.

Anyway, the idiots probably aren't aware that the song was written after Knopfler (I believe) overheard a couple of guys talking about rock stars being "faggots", etc. Morons.
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Postby Rick » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:46 am

If they do that, they have to ban every song with that word or any word someone could be offended by. Knopfler needs to file a lawsuit detailing just that. You can't ban his song and not others who have the same or worse.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:48 am

Rick wrote:If they do that, they have to ban every song with that word or any word someone could be offended by. Knopfler needs to file a lawsuit detailing just that. You can't ban his song and not others who have the same or worse.


While they're at it, take out all songs with curse words, anti-religious words, etc. Ridiculous.
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Postby Rick » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:49 am

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Rick wrote:If they do that, they have to ban every song with that word or any word someone could be offended by. Knopfler needs to file a lawsuit detailing just that. You can't ban his song and not others who have the same or worse.


While they're at it, take out all songs with curse words, anti-religious words, etc. Ridiculous.


Yep, songs, movies or anything that conveys such, while we're at it.
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Re: Canada bans the song "Money for Nothing" from

Postby Saint John » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:50 am

Clasicrockldy wrote:as it contains an anti-gay slur. WTF? This song has been around for a good 25 years, and NOW Canada says it is to be banned because of that? Where were these people 25 years ago? Read below ...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/13/dire-straits-song-banned-canada-anti-gay-slur/

It was No. 1 in 1985, but it's unacceptable for Canadian eyes and ears today.

The Dire Straits song "Money for Nothing" was ruled by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council to be "extremely offensive" and thus inappropriate for airing on radio or television because it uses an anti-gay slur.

The decision against St. John's radio station CHOZ-FM in Newfoundland was released Wednesday. In it, the panel ruled that the word "faggot" "contravened the Human Rights Clauses" and its ethics code and is "no longer" permitted "even if entirely or marginally acceptable in earlier days."

Ron Cohen, the CBSC's national chairman, told The Washington Times on Thursday that the decision effectively sets a "nationwide" precedent binding on all private license holders for TV, cable-TV and radio broadcasting. It does not cover the state-run Canadian Broadcasting Corp. or "community and university" stations.

Nor, Mr. Cohen said, does his Council have any authority over the Internet and therefore such music-delivery methods as online downloads or Internet-based book or record stores. Indeed, Mr. Cohen noted, "OZ FM could stream ['Money for Nothing'] on its Website and play it that way" without violating the ruling.
A still image from the video for Dire Straits' A still image from the video for Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing"

The Canadian broadcasters' "Ethics and Equitable Portrayal Code" requires them to "ensure that their programming contains no abusive or unduly discriminatory material or comment which is based on matters of … sexual orientation" among other things.

Mr. Cohen said the decision is final and not appealable. He said membership in the self-regulating Council is voluntary, though its 760 members include almost all private Canadian broadcasters.

CHOZ did not return a phone call from The Times requesting comment.

Asked about whether the decision could be appealed through courts, Mr. Cohen mentioned the case of the Quebec radio station CHOI-FM, which he said left the voluntary Council in disputes over the use of abusive language.

What happened then, he said, was that the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, a government body analogous to America's Federal Communications Commission, rejected the station's bid to renew its license. As a legal case was winding its way through Canada's courts, in the CRTC's favor to that point, the license to use the frequency was sold and the case became moot.

Though the decision does not bind Canadian record stores, Canada has broad human-rights policies and tribunals that may give the broadcasting decision probative value.

Jeff Barber, owner and manager of Sonic Boom records in Toronto, said he was not sure whether his store had ever played the song or its album into the street on its external speakers, though he guessed that in 10 years of operation, it probably had.

"We certainly don't have an issue with that and would be willing to do so," he told The Times, adding that he was uncertain whether doing so would create a legal or public issue for his store.

In the song, Dire Straits' lead singer Mark Knopfler sings in the persona of an appliance-installer looking at his store's TV section and gawking "at them yo-yos [who] play the guitar on the MTV."

The manual laborer expresses a mixture of admiration, dismissal and envy about the musicians' occupation as "ain't working" but allowing them to get "money for nothing and your chicks for free."

The offending line occurs in the third verse, where the worker gawks at MTV showing "the little faggot with the earring and the makeup." Two other uses of the word occur, referring to the performer having "his own jet airplane" and being a millionaire. At the time such MTV male stars as Boy George, Softcell and the Human League either dressed as women or wore sexually ambiguous makeup.

While the full "Money for Nothing" track and its groundbreaking video both contain the offending verse, some versions of the single since 1985, for both sale and some airplay, have dispensed with the whole third verse. Shortening lengthy singles for reasons of airplay time — the full album cut runs 7 minutes and the video about 4½ — is common, regardless of content issues, in the U.S., Canada and elsewhere.

The reference to "chicks for free" and a later line about "banging on bongos like a chimpanzee" also has caused criticism of the song as sexist and racist.

Mr. Cohen said those words in the edited version of the song likely could stay because "the panel found no other problem" with the song besides the gay references.

Mr. Knopfler has said he wrote the song impromptu after overhearing some workers at an appliance shop, more or less saying what the song does, and using some of the same language.

"I borrowed a bit of paper and started to write the song down in the store. I wanted to use a lot of the language that the real guy actually used when I heard him, because it was more real," he said in 1985.

There was no immediate response to a request for comment from publicists listed at Mr. Knopfler's website.

"Money for Nothing" was a huge international hit, reaching No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the U.S., and the same position in Canada. It won the year's best video at one of the first MTV Video Music Awards, received the Grammy for best rock song by a group or duo, and was named one of the Top 100 guitar songs of all time by Rolling Stone magazine.

When MTV Europe began airing in 1987, "Money for Nothing," which begins with Sting's opening falsetto whisper "I want my MTV," was the first video played.

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:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: This song, because of that lyric, would be a fucking staple on my music station!
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Postby Melissa » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:55 am

I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:58 am

Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?
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Postby lights1961 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:07 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?



not in Iowa... KGGO in DM plays it a lot still... actually I like the song and also liked Dire Straits back in the day...

Sultan of Swing was their other hit that I remember...
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Postby Melissa » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:07 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?


Who knows :lol: I don't like that song even in the least bit, if I never heard it again it would be too soon :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:10 am

Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?


Who knows :lol: I don't like that song even in the least bit, if I never heard it again it would be too soon :lol:
Because it was a rip on your hair bands? :lol: Really, that's why I don't get why it's so offensive. They are calling the hair bands rich fags basically. :lol: I liked it because I took the humor from it. And I was an MTV freak back then. It was very MTV driven. It's a nostalgia thing.
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Postby Deb » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:16 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?


Who knows :lol: I don't like that song even in the least bit, if I never heard it again it would be too soon :lol:
Because it was a rip on your hair bands? :lol: Really, that's why I don't get why it's so offensive. They are calling the hair bands rich fags basically. :lol: I liked it because I took the humor from it. And I was an MTV freak back then. It was very MTV driven. It's a nostalgia thing.


It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:16 am

lights1961 wrote:
Sultan of Swing was their other hit that I remember...


So Far Away and Walk Of Life are 2 others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ50W3AOFjk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxVC0GB838
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:18 am

ridiculous.

this is along same line (though not as much of an outrage) as the fool who is republishing Huck Finn.
now we're going to go back and rewrite (CENSOR) everything from the PAST because of we deem something offensive NOW?

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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:18 am

Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:23 am

Deb wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?


Who knows :lol: I don't like that song even in the least bit, if I never heard it again it would be too soon :lol:
Because it was a rip on your hair bands? :lol: Really, that's why I don't get why it's so offensive. They are calling the hair bands rich fags basically. :lol: I liked it because I took the humor from it. And I was an MTV freak back then. It was very MTV driven. It's a nostalgia thing.


It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?
At the end they sing "I want my MTV". I always took that as kind of a dig at us viewers too! Being glued to our MTV. MTV zombies :lol: We made all those "faggots" wealthy :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:27 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?


Who knows :lol: I don't like that song even in the least bit, if I never heard it again it would be too soon :lol:
Because it was a rip on your hair bands? :lol: Really, that's why I don't get why it's so offensive. They are calling the hair bands rich fags basically. :lol: I liked it because I took the humor from it. And I was an MTV freak back then. It was very MTV driven. It's a nostalgia thing.


My hair bands? :lol: No, I didn't even know it was a rip on them. And I know it was an MTV thing then. I just don't like it because I never liked the actual music, don't like the guy's voice much, I don't even know the lyrics other than something about a microwave oven and chicks for free (that's how much I have never paid attention to it!) and I just think the song sucks :lol:

They have other songs I think are ok, just not a big fan by any stretch, nostalgia or not, I have LOTS of other nostalgic 80's things :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:28 am

conversationpc wrote:
Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.


Yeah that one is the one that reminds me so much more of the MTV era getting started and so big.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:40 am

Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:I never even knew that word was in that song :lol: Probably because I don't like that song and so I've never paid that much attention to it at all :lol:
most likely because MOST radio stations bleep it out, like 105.1. Even 96.5 bleeps it during the day, but interestingly plays the lyrics after a certain time at night. I guess they bleep it for kids?


Who knows :lol: I don't like that song even in the least bit, if I never heard it again it would be too soon :lol:
Because it was a rip on your hair bands? :lol: Really, that's why I don't get why it's so offensive. They are calling the hair bands rich fags basically. :lol: I liked it because I took the humor from it. And I was an MTV freak back then. It was very MTV driven. It's a nostalgia thing.


My hair bands? :lol: No, I didn't even know it was a rip on them. And I know it was an MTV thing then. I just don't like it because I never liked the actual music, don't like the guy's voice much, I don't even know the lyrics other than something about a microwave oven and chicks for free (that's how much I have never paid attention to it!) and I just think the song sucks :lol:

They have other songs I think are ok, just not a big fan by any stretch, nostalgia or not, I have LOTS of other nostalgic 80's things :lol:


I was just teasing you about your hair bands, geez!! :lol: But that is what it's about! How the "faggots with the earrings and makeup" are millionaires. I liked all kinds of pop back then. I think BECAUSE of MTV. It showed such a mix. And the video killed the radio star wasn't as much nostalgia for me because that was EARLY MTV. I didn't get glued until high school, with things like this dire straits song, and all the real 80's bands. I never said it was a great song! I just said it has nostalgic meaning to me is all.
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Postby lights1961 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:41 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:ridiculous.

this is along same line (though not as much of an outrage) as the fool who is republishing Huck Finn.
now we're going to go back and rewrite (CENSOR) everything from the PAST because of we deem something offensive NOW?

:roll: :roll:


I call this...were trying to outsmart ourselfs to thinking that were SMARTER Than our past.. and it aint so... were blinded by our self importance, instead of appreciating the past... some works are better left not to be desturbed...
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Postby Behshad » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:43 am

conversationpc wrote:
Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.


youre both right ;) While "Video Killed.." was the very first MTV video , "Money for nothing" was also the very first MTV video in Europe! ;)
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:44 am

Behshad wrote:
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Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.


youre both right ;) While "Video Killed.." was the very first MTV video , "Money for nothing" was also the very first MTV video in Europe! ;)


Was it really? I had no idea! So Europe had no MTV until THEN?
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Postby Melissa » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:47 am

So if that word is just now so offensive, are they going to ban the movie "Sixteen Candles" because of Molly Ringwald's line when she says "Yes, you're a total f*g" :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:48 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.


youre both right ;) While "Video Killed.." was the very first MTV video , "Money for nothing" was also the very first MTV video in Europe! ;)


Was it really? I had no idea! So Europe had no MTV until THEN?


Yes,,, they had the US MTV . But eventually MTV decided to create MTV Europe, 1986/87,,, and when that launched the very first video was "Money for nothing"
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:52 am

Melissa wrote:So if that word is just now so offensive, are they going to ban the movie "Sixteen Candles" because of Molly Ringwald's line when she says "Yes, you're a total f*g" :lol:


Probably :lol: It's interesting though! If you think about it, that word is RARELY used anymore! Is it a "time era" thing or is it a political correctness thing? Hmm..

I was watching Beverly Hills Cop yesterday and I was amazed at how a rated R movie at that time, WITH shooting, had no blood and guts!! When he shot people, there was no blood! They just fell down!! :lol: Funny how the violent movies aren't offensive to anyone, but yet "faggot" is a sin! :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:53 am

Behshad wrote:
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Behshad wrote:
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Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.


youre both right ;) While "Video Killed.." was the very first MTV video , "Money for nothing" was also the very first MTV video in Europe! ;)


Was it really? I had no idea! So Europe had no MTV until THEN?


Yes,,, they had the US MTV . But eventually MTV decided to create MTV Europe, 1986/87,,, and when that launched the very first video was "Money for nothing"


Interesting fact! :lol: So you got TWO MTV's to watch?
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Postby Behshad » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:05 am

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conversationpc wrote:
Deb wrote:It was the very first video played on MTV wasn't it?


That was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.


youre both right ;) While "Video Killed.." was the very first MTV video , "Money for nothing" was also the very first MTV video in Europe! ;)


Was it really? I had no idea! So Europe had no MTV until THEN?


Yes,,, they had the US MTV . But eventually MTV decided to create MTV Europe, 1986/87,,, and when that launched the very first video was "Money for nothing"


Interesting fact! :lol: So you got TWO MTV's to watch?


nope, cause once they started MTV Europe, it replaced MTV US ! 8)
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