Too stupid to breathe

General Intelligent Discussion & One Thread About That Buttknuckle

Moderator: Andrew

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:24 am

:lol:
Seems like YOU are trying to force your theories on us and youre now pissed cause we wont nibble.You want some Scientific arguments ? Here, simple :

The evolutionist ignores the problem surrounding the human female egg and the male sperm in the evolutionary theory. The female egg contains the X-chromosome and the male sperm contains either an X-chromosome for the reproduction of a male or a Y-chromosome for the reproduction of a female. The female eggs all develop within the ovaries while she is a baby (fetus) within her mother's womb. Evolutionists claim environmental factors cause small changes in the offspring in the evolutionary chain. However, the environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes within her eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring. Her body cannot go into the eggs contained within her ovaries at her birth to make an intelligent change. Females cannot be a part of the evolutionary theory for these reasons.

The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic and scientific proof. Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great example. There are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture. This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and elephants. These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:29 am

Problems with the Fossil Record


If the fossils are a true record of the evolutionary process then they ought to reflect that process. There should be a clear increase of complexity and plenty of fossils that show transition between species. But does the fossil record show that?

The fossil record does not show an increasing complexity. Evolutionist Dan McShea of the University of Michigan had approached this question in a detailed study of the backbones of creatures that evolutionists believe represent ancestor – descendant pairs. He wanted to see if the ‘descendant’ was more complex than the ‘ancestor’ on the average for each case. What he found was no trend at all. Other scientists studied the shells of ammonoids, a spiral shelled creature, to see if apparently related types got more complex higher in the rock strata and found there was absolutely no trend. Creationists would expect this result of these studies. McShea said: “Everybody knows that organisms get more complex as they evolve. The only trouble with what everyone knows is that there is no evidence it’s true.”
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby S2M » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:31 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Funny how you feel the need to insult science and evolution and expect me to respect your belief of nothing WITHOUT PROOF. That is the reason why I said the things I said in the first place.


So insulting "science" is on par with you or whoever saying "Jesus Fucking Christ!" only for the reason of insulting your opponent and nothing more?


Where did I say that? I'm not out to insult anyone for believing in God, but when you decide to participate in a public forum discussion about these topics, and you want to bring religion into the equation, you need to be prepared to have valid arguments. Why do all of you point fingers and play the victim card anytime you are cornered or questioned?


So the question remains...You purposely used the phrase I quoted above. Why, other than you know it's offensive to Christians? If that's not purposely insulting, I don't know what is.


C'mon, Dave....If someone blurted out Louis Fucking Pasteur do you think I'd actually be offended. Another reason why I can't stand religion.
Tom Brady IS the G.O.A.T.
User avatar
S2M
MP3
 
Posts: 11981
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:43 am
Location: In a bevy of whimsy

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:32 am

Ligzig wrote:It would be a waste of time. You are a lost cause, and I will not continue to have debate with someone who so clearly doesn't want to try to understand evolution or how it works.


Can you honestly say that YOU'RE trying to understand the other side of the argument or are you just trying to provoke, make fun of, etc?
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:35 am

S2M wrote:C'mon, Dave....If someone blurted out Louis Fucking Pasteur do you think I'd actually be offended. Another reason why I can't stand religion.


Come on, dude, that's hardly comparable.

One of my favorite quotes..."He who is never offended by anything, likely doesn't care enough about anything to be offended in the first place."
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Moon Beam » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:35 am

I don't understand half of whats posted around here but I do know what I believe in
and I give all the credit to God.
http://moonbeamsmindgrounds.blogspot.com/
Good, Bad Or Ugly, Live It, Love It Or Leave It.
User avatar
Moon Beam
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7824
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:45 am
Location: Here But Not All There

Postby S2M » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:36 am

It is more believable to imagine us as an accident(one in which we aren't able to fully understand), than to believe some great Imaginary Sky Wizard with a cosmic green thumb deposited adam and eve on earth and in 7 days all this was created. Then allows himself to be euthanized, only to rise 3 days later and go the way of the Dodo....and never return again.
Tom Brady IS the G.O.A.T.
User avatar
S2M
MP3
 
Posts: 11981
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:43 am
Location: In a bevy of whimsy

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:39 am

S2M wrote:It is more believable to imagine us as an accident(one in which we aren't able to fully understand), than to believe some great Imaginary Sky Wizard with a cosmic green thumb deposited adam and eve on earth and in 7 days all this was created. Then allows himself to be euthanized, only to rise 3 days later and go the way of the Dodo....and never return again.



Youre entitled to believe in what is easier for you to understand, no one is gonna put you down for that. But in return, you should respect other peoples beliefs and how they think we got here. Fair enough ? :wink:
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:42 am

S2M wrote:It is more believable to imagine us as an accident(one in which we aren't able to fully understand), than to believe some great Imaginary Sky Wizard with a cosmic green thumb deposited adam and eve on earth and in 7 days all this was created. Then allows himself to be euthanized, only to rise 3 days later and go the way of the Dodo....and never return again.


Do you realize that your god in your avatar believed in the supernatural?
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:42 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:It would be a waste of time. You are a lost cause, and I will not continue to have debate with someone who so clearly doesn't want to try to understand evolution or how it works.


Can you honestly say that YOU'RE trying to understand the other side of the argument or are you just trying to provoke, make fun of, etc?


I don't need to try, I have been there before. I was raised to believe in God, and I have gone to church and read the bible. I know what it is all about.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:45 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:It would be a waste of time. You are a lost cause, and I will not continue to have debate with someone who so clearly doesn't want to try to understand evolution or how it works.


Can you honestly say that YOU'RE trying to understand the other side of the argument or are you just trying to provoke, make fun of, etc?


I don't need to try, I have been there before. I was raised to believe in God, and I have gone to church and read the bible. I know what it is all about.


Going to church and reading the Bible in and of themselves doesn't make you a Christian or, for that matter, even really mean that gave you a real understanding of what real belief in God is all about.
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:48 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:It would be a waste of time. You are a lost cause, and I will not continue to have debate with someone who so clearly doesn't want to try to understand evolution or how it works.


Can you honestly say that YOU'RE trying to understand the other side of the argument or are you just trying to provoke, make fun of, etc?


I don't need to try, I have been there before. I was raised to believe in God, and I have gone to church and read the bible. I know what it is all about.


Going to church and reading the Bible in and of themselves doesn't make you a Christian or, for that matter, even really mean that gave you a real understanding of what real belief in God is all about.


Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:54 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:It would be a waste of time. You are a lost cause, and I will not continue to have debate with someone who so clearly doesn't want to try to understand evolution or how it works.


Can you honestly say that YOU'RE trying to understand the other side of the argument or are you just trying to provoke, make fun of, etc?


I don't need to try, I have been there before. I was raised to believe in God, and I have gone to church and read the bible. I know what it is all about.


Going to church and reading the Bible in and of themselves doesn't make you a Christian or, for that matter, even really mean that gave you a real understanding of what real belief in God is all about.


Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby SF-Dano » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:57 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:It would be a waste of time. You are a lost cause, and I will not continue to have debate with someone who so clearly doesn't want to try to understand evolution or how it works.


Can you honestly say that YOU'RE trying to understand the other side of the argument or are you just trying to provoke, make fun of, etc?


I don't need to try, I have been there before. I was raised to believe in God, and I have gone to church and read the bible. I know what it is all about.


Going to church and reading the Bible in and of themselves doesn't make you a Christian or, for that matter, even really mean that gave you a real understanding of what real belief in God is all about.


I think the vast majority of Christians or believers of other religions would say themselves, that they don't even know WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. There is mystery involved - things unknown to man.
Image
User avatar
SF-Dano
Cassette Tape
 
Posts: 1991
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2002 9:00 am
Location: Near Sacramento missin' my City by the Bay

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:58 am

Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:03 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby S2M » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:07 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.



Actually that is not entirely true. You have to have faith in what the scientists are relating about said science is true....
Tom Brady IS the G.O.A.T.
User avatar
S2M
MP3
 
Posts: 11981
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:43 am
Location: In a bevy of whimsy

Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:08 am

S2M wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.



Actually that is not entirely true. You have to have faith in what the scientists are relating about said science is true....


Science becomes his religion... science books his bible. :P
User avatar
StevePerryHair
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8504
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:07 pm
Location: Mickey's World

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:10 am

S2M wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.



Actually that is not entirely true. You have to have faith in what the scientists are relating about said science is true....


No, scientists do not simply write things in text books and put it out there for people to read as facts. It doesn't work that way. You see, unlike the bible....where things are written and then preached, and nobody asks questions or tests things, science does. There is a review system, things have to be measured and tested, there are facts in every text book and you can replicate results. I'll give you one thing though, a level of faith is required when you get into quantum physics.
Last edited by Ligzig on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:11 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.


:lol:

Very respectful. :lol:
That monkey that you supposedly come from, is still smarter than you. ;)

You have NO idea what I believe in. You think YOU have the rights to question everyone elses belief here, but if they question yours you go all whacko on us ? Next time use your reasonanble logic and try to understand that respect of belief goes both way. Now go get a pound of bananas and enjoy dinner, Bubbles ;) :lol:
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:15 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.


Do you consider yourself a moral person? Judging from the evidence in this post, my guess is that you don't. :D
Last edited by conversationpc on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:16 am, edited 2 times in total.
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:16 am

Ligzig wrote:
S2M wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.



Actually that is not entirely true. You have to have faith in what the scientists are relating about said science is true....


No, scientists do not simply write things in text books and put it out there for people to read as facts. It doesn't work that way. You see, unlike the bible....where things are written and then preached, and nobody asks questions or tests things, science does. There is a review system, things have to be measured and tested, there are facts in every text book and you can replicate results. I'll give you one thing though, a level of faith is required when you get into quantum physics.


So scientists didnt get their message to you through text books, what did they use ? Smoke signals? Telefax? Kindle ?? Telepathy?? Kinect ?? :lol: :lol:
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:17 am

Behshad wrote:That monkey that you supposedly come from, is still smarter than you. ;)

You have NO idea what I believe in. You think YOU have the rights to question everyone elses belief here, but if they question yours you go all whacko on us ? Next time use your reasonanble logic and try to understand that respect of belief goes both way. Now go get a pound of bananas and enjoy dinner, Bubbles ;) :lol:


Not even on the same level.

The reason I came into this thread was to defend against the ignorance already being spewed against science in the name of religion. It's okay to believe in God, or be religious. I have already said that. It's when you attack science with no proof that I felt the need to step in. I tried to be respectful, and every time I decided to bow out of the thread, someone decided to quote me and stir the pot.

My own personal faith and believe in God was as real as it can get. To say that I never had real faith or understanding in god, when you do not know me personally is ridiculous. I never denied anyone their belief. I can't take that away from anybody.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:18 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.


Do you consider yourself a moral person? Judging from the evidence in this post, my guess is that you don't. :D


I would say yes, not because I'm trying to prove something to the man in the sky, but because I genuinely want to be a good human being because that is how I would want to be treated. I live my life happily and with purpose. I don't need religion or God to validate my existence.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:19 am

Ligzig wrote:The reason I came into this thread was to defend against the ignorance already being spewed against science in the name of religion. It's okay to believe in God, or be religious. I have already said that. It's when you attack science with no proof that I felt the need to step in. I tried to be respectful, and every time I decided to bow out of the thread, someone decided to quote me and stir the pot.

My own personal faith and believe in God was as real as it can get. To say that I never had real faith or understanding in god, when you do not know me personally is ridiculous. I never denied anyone their belief. I can't take that away from anybody.


You weren't respectful at all. At least be honest, for crying out loud.
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:21 am

Ligzig wrote:
Behshad wrote:That monkey that you supposedly come from, is still smarter than you. ;)

You have NO idea what I believe in. You think YOU have the rights to question everyone elses belief here, but if they question yours you go all whacko on us ? Next time use your reasonanble logic and try to understand that respect of belief goes both way. Now go get a pound of bananas and enjoy dinner, Bubbles ;) :lol:


Not even on the same level.

The reason I came into this thread was to defend against the ignorance already being spewed against science in the name of religion. It's okay to believe in God, or be religious. I have already said that. It's when you attack science with no proof that I felt the need to step in. I tried to be respectful, and every time I decided to bow out of the thread, someone decided to quote me and stir the pot.

My own personal faith and believe in God was as real as it can get. To say that I never had real faith or understanding in god, when you do not know me personally is ridiculous. I never denied anyone their belief. I can't take that away from anybody.


I dont attack science , I question it . You cant answer, you get pissed, end of story :)
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby conversationpc » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:22 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:Do you consider yourself a moral person? Judging from the evidence in this post, my guess is that you don't. :D


I would say yes, not because I'm trying to prove something to the man in the sky, but because I genuinely want to be a good human being because that is how I would want to be treated. I live my life happily and with purpose. I don't need religion or God to validate my existence.


Being a good person is all almost anyone wants. That's what I want of myself and it's great that it's what you want of yourself. I don't have any issue with that at all.

I like a good give-and-take and even a good argument. This one's descended past the point of being a good argument and I think it's a good idea to call it off.
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:23 am

Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:Who are you to say what my understanding or relationship to God was like? Just because I am no longer blinded by the light doesn't mean I don't know what having faith is all about.


You seem to have all kinds of things to say about the motives and beliefs of those who do believe in God yet you feel threatened when someone questions yours? Unbelievable. I think there's a word for that...


Questions my what? I don't believe in God or religion anymore, what of it? You are playing a dirty game right now, and it's pathetic. I used to have faith for the same reasons you, or anyone else has faith. If you have any specific questions, ask them. I don't feel threatened. What I DO find offensive is your arrogance. Who the fuck are you to say how strong my faith was? Or what true faith is? Are you Jesus? No? Then feel free to fuck yourself.

Again, if you have questions, ask them. Don't try to corner me with stupid bullshit.

Behshad wrote:Your faith in God wasnt a real faith,,, you just did it cause of your parents, not what you felt inside... and good for you if you found something better. The problem is what you have found is as hard to prove or explain as your previous faith ;)


Fuck you. And fuck your God too. Who do you think you are? You have no idea about my past faith. I believed in God for over half my life.

Have fun living in the dark ages. I don't follow any religion or belief. Science involves no faith. I live my life by physical evidence and reasonable logic. Something you know nothing about and have a zero amount of in your body.


Do you consider yourself a moral person? Judging from the evidence in this post, my guess is that you don't. :D


I would say yes, not because I'm trying to prove something to the man in the sky, but because I genuinely want to be a good human being because that is how I would want to be treated. I live my life happily and with purpose. I don't need religion or God to validate my existence.


You need to try harder ;) :lol: :lol:
Image
User avatar
Behshad
MP3
 
Posts: 12584
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:23 am

conversationpc wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
conversationpc wrote:Do you consider yourself a moral person? Judging from the evidence in this post, my guess is that you don't. :D


I would say yes, not because I'm trying to prove something to the man in the sky, but because I genuinely want to be a good human being because that is how I would want to be treated. I live my life happily and with purpose. I don't need religion or God to validate my existence.


Being a good person is all almost anyone wants. That's what I want of myself and it's great that it's what you want of yourself. I don't have any issue with that at all.

I like a good give-and-take and even a good argument. This one's descended past the point of being a good argument and I think it's a good idea to call it off.


Which is what I decided to try to do a couple of posts back, so I would like this to be my final one in this thread.
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:24 am

Behshad wrote:You need to try harder ;) :lol: :lol:


Blow me. :wink:
Image
User avatar
Ligzig
45 RPM
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:29 am

PreviousNext

Return to Snowmobiles For The Sahara

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 5 guests