Too stupid to breathe

[Saint John]

The condom question is a good one. Since God now seemingly turns the cheek concerning pre-marital sex (judging by all the people of faith who have done it) why doesn't he get with the times when it comes to condoms? Abortions are bad but we can't use rubbers? What's up with that?

I don't think God ever said not to use condoms. Does God talk to you Don?

And just because people have premarital sex does not mean that God has decided it's OK.

It was ok for for that slut Mary.

Are you talking about Sister Mary, as in Suite Sister Mary? It wasn't her fault what Father William did to her! She was just 16, and on the run from home!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oUAekdWSO4

You're nuts, dude. Genius, but nuts!

[ebake02]

Seems like this conversation has turned into the energizer bunny. It keep going and going and going.....

[StevePerryHair]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I think you're reading Don's post wrong.

Don't you think Don can defend himself?

[RedWingFan]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I think you're reading Don's post wrong.

Don't you think Don can defend himself?

Geeze if you're going to try to be funny, work on your reading comprehension. Dan was addressing Dave and not Don. Do you need me to draw you a picture for this too?

[StevePerryHair]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I think you're reading Don's post wrong.

Don't you think Don can defend himself?

Geeze if you're going to try to be funny, work on your reading comprehension. Dan was addressing Dave and not Don. Do you need me to draw you a picture for this too?

You QUOTED Dan and told DAN that he is reading DON'S post wrong... who needs reading comprehension

And how about I draw YOU a picture, right here in the religious thread:

[S2M]

Stow it, Meanie!

[StevePerryHair]

Stow it, Meanie!

Would you like a picture too???

[Saint John]

Stow it, Meanie!

Would you like a picture too???

Only if it's not popular.

[StevePerryHair]

Stow it, Meanie!

Would you like a picture too???

Only if it's not popular.

I didn't word that very well Would he like me to DRAW him a picture!

[Angel]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I think you're reading Don's post wrong.

Don't you think Don can defend himself?

Scott, do you have a crush on Don, too! I thought I was the only one you had a crush on. I feel so crushed!

[RedWingFan]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I think you're reading Don's post wrong.

Don't you think Don can defend himself?

Scott, do you have a crush on Don, too! I thought I was the only one you had a crush on. I feel so crushed!

Well, I used to when he'd have those half-naked Asian chick avs. I haven't fawned over him since.

[parfait]

It's disgusting that you deluded theists can joke and laugh about what your supposed God has orchestrated, or just couldn't care to do anything with. These kids are, when born, condemned into either be killed in guerrilla wars or die of TB or HIV, while you corpulent fucks sits around in churches praying for your wife's to blow you more and that your boss will give you a raise at work.

All the while, missionaries are walking around in Africa, preaching the gospel of God and to to stay away from condoms. That's not funny. It's sick and ugly. Leap of faith, I guess.

Hypocrite...You've got no moral high ground to be castigating anyone for anything. Unbelievable.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there'es murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created. Oh, that's not entirely correct; he helped Ginger find her man.

While scientists work for HIV cures, improved cancer treatment or through their work at LHC, one way or another, improves the quality of life. There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

[verslibre]

I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty.

Man's doing, silly, not God's. It's been said that if you took all the money in the world and distributed it evenly amongst everybody, eventually it would end up in the same hands as before. The filthy stinking rich of this planet could virtually eliminate poverty if they wanted to, but they don't want to. In fact, among them are those who would like to see the population of the Earth reduced by a significant number.

While scientists work for HIV cures,

They're going to continue "working" for a long time.

improved cancer treatment

Fat chance! Cancer means big business, at least over here. Cancer treatments are very lucrative. They don't want it "cured." The best thing really is for one to maintain alkalinity in the body since cancer cells thrive in an acidic environment.

When the FDA tells a company like Diamond to take down all the research on their website with regard to the healthful benefits of eating walnuts (which makes suddenly makes them a "drug" and not a "food"), you know what kind of world we're living in.

[Ligzig]

he helped Ginger find her man.

Yes, I'm sure God played a huge part in that. I'm curious to know exactly how high that one is on Gods Priority list. I love all of the cherry picking that goes on as far as where God intervenes and biblical quotes.

[*Laura]

For Elohim to exist and be so involved with man at one point and yet later be derelict when Stalin was exterminating 20 million of god's children...

This is something that confuses me a LOT from a religious perspective. No matter how hard I tried to understand I couldn't find an answer to why God chose to become "invisible" and "deaf" when at one point he was present on Earth everytime he was needed ( at least that's what we know from the people who wrote the Bible). It's either we are tested ("let's see who continues to believe without seeing") OR...this whole thing is not religious at all but it's what I said a few pages ago...Humanity is an experiment - the alien scientists created everything then they left and are watching this experiment from afar without interffering, allowing this experiment go wherever it goes. And it's obviously going South.

Also, I couldn't help wondering what's the purpose of this experiment? When I read in the Bible that at the "end of times" there will be only 144,000 humans who will be saved and taken "into the sky", I thought maybe this is what they want - the "pure" results of their experiment.
Btw, I am convinced that the whole Bible is a huge metaphor as it was written by people who were way too "primitive" to understand an advanced civilization.

[Ligzig]

For Elohim to exist and be so involved with man at one point and yet later be derelict when Stalin was exterminating 20 million of god's children...

This is something that confuses me a LOT from a religious perspective. No matter how hard I tried to understand I couldn't find an answer to why God chose to become "invisible" and "deaf" when at one point he was present on Earth everytime he was needed ( at least that's what we know from the people who wrote the Bible). It's either we are tested ("let's see who continues to believe without seeing") OR...this whole thing is not religious at all but it's what I said a few pages ago...Humanity is an experiment - the alien scientists created everything then they left and are watching this experiment from afar without interffering, allowing this experiment go wherever it goes. And it's obviously going South.

Also, I couldn't help wondering what's the purpose of this experiment? When I read in the Bible that at the "end of times" there will be only 144,000 humans who will be saved and taken "into the sky", I thought maybe this is what they want - the "pure" results of their experiment.
Btw, I am convinced that the whole Bible is a huge metaphor as it was written by people who were way too "primitive" to understand an advanced civilization.

Where was God for the holocaust, Haiti, starving children all over the world, diseases, war, 9/11, or any other tragedy in history. Where was God when I went into a deep depression for 8 months and was searching for God? Looking for some help? He seems to only intervene when someone wants to find a date or when someone wants their favorite team to win the Superbowl, or when they want that new job at Best Buy, or for their child to pass the math test on Friday. There has been more tragedy in the name of God, then good.

I've actually been in your shoes before Laura, and I don't know you, but I totally understand your views. I can tell you from experience, you'll never be able to make sense of religion in the way you are trying to do now. You'll never find answers, believe me. I tried to look at it from every single angle from an agnostic point of view and it will just drive you insane. The best way to go about it, from an agnostic point of view, is saying "I want to believe there is something out there, but I don't know what it is" but I wouldn't waste time trying to decipher God and religion, or the bible. You will just sit around for hours saying "What if..." and "but why...." because you'll realize that God is not an omnipotent being and there are tons of logical fallacies in the bible. All you have to do is look at the world and see the results. This is not the work of an omnipotent being.

It's far more intelligent to look at things the way you are now. "God" doesn't have to be an old man in the sky that judges you, it can be whatever you want it to be. If certain thoughts comfort you, so be it. I don't have a problem with that.

[*Laura]

...whatever you want it to be. If certain thoughts comfort you, so be it. I don't have a problem with that.

And that right there is Free Will, no? I'm not trying to comfort myself, it's more about trying to find logic and sense in things that are obviously affecting our existence - science, religion, rules, behavior etc. I'm sure I won't find all the answers, but I do believe that our brains were designed to process information and help us do our own researches.

As a side note, but maybe a lil food for thought ( I know it made me ponder a lot ): awhile back I saw this thing in a store called "Ant Habitat". Just like the name says, it was an artificially built home for ants and all you had to do is put the ants inside and let them do whatever they want after you "offered" them the necessary conditions for life. As I was reading the instructions on the box I couldn't help wondering if this is what we are, too...An "inferior" species put to the test in someone's clever "lab". And I am not saying "inferior" in a derogatory way, just that we are less developed/advanced in comparison to "other" species.

"The Ant Habitat uses the same technology that NASA developed back in 2003. Their mission: take ants into space to see how successfully they tunnel when exposed to microgravity. The technology we speak of is a blue transparent non-toxic gel rich with nutrients to encourage an ant's healthy growth. This means you do not need to feed or water your ants. They have everything they need in the gel. You simply marvel at their agility."

[StevePerryHair]

It's disgusting that you deluded theists can joke and laugh about what your supposed God has orchestrated, or just couldn't care to do anything with. These kids are, when born, condemned into either be killed in guerrilla wars or die of TB or HIV, while you corpulent fucks sits around in churches praying for your wife's to blow you more and that your boss will give you a raise at work.

All the while, missionaries are walking around in Africa, preaching the gospel of God and to to stay away from condoms. That's not funny. It's sick and ugly. Leap of faith, I guess.

Hypocrite...You've got no moral high ground to be castigating anyone for anything. Unbelievable.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there'es murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created. Oh, that's not entirely correct; he helped Ginger find her man.

While scientists work for HIV cures, improved cancer treatment or through their work at LHC, one way or another, improves the quality of life. There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

[Ligzig]

I'm not trying to comfort myself

I didn't mean to insinuate anything. I was just adding it as flavor, as I really have no problem with comforting thoughts. There are some that find no comfort in the thought of no after life, or the thought of this being all there is. I don't understand this, but I believe it is one of the biggest reasons religion continues to thrive. It offers promise of continued eternal existence after death in a paradise, what could be better than that? About an eternity too many. One lifetime on this earth is all I need, and returning home to the universe after death is more comforting than an eternal existence of endless worship.

it's more about trying to find logic and sense in things that are obviously affecting our existence - science, religion, rules, behavior etc. I'm sure I won't find all the answers, but I do believe that our brains were designed to process information and help us do our own researches.

You are correct, which is why I spent over half my life trying to find answers and sort through similar thoughts and topics. The only problem is that logic, reasoning, and especially common sense, are incompatible with religion. Once you start to question things with religion or the bible, it all starts to fall apart quickly. Sort of like trying to figure out how Santa delivers to every child on earth in one night. Or the Tooth Fairy. Or how the Boogy man can be in every childs closet plus under the bed. Crazy ass boogey man. You're better off removing religion from the equation, but if you are a masochist, be my guest.

As a side note, but maybe a lil food for thought ( I know it made me ponder a lot Wink ): awhile back I saw this thing in a store called "Ant Habitat". Just like the name says, it was an artificially built home for ants and all you had to do is put the ants inside and let them do whatever they want after you "offered" them the necessary conditions for life. As I was reading the instructions on the box I couldn't help wondering if this is what we are, too...An "inferior" species put to the test in someone's clever "lab". And I am not saying "inferior" in a derrogatory way, just that we are less developed/advanced in comparison to "other" species.

"The Ant Habitat uses the same technology that NASA developed back in 2003. Their mission: take ants into space to see how successfully they tunnel when exposed to microgravity. The technology we speak of is a blue transparent non-toxic gel rich with nutrients to encourage an ant's healthy growth. This means you do not need to feed or water your ants. They have everything they need in the gel. You simply marvel at their agility."

I've read a few similar theories similar to this one. There are quite a few interesting science fiction stories out there that would really get your mind thinking about things outside of the box. I'm too lazy to find the links, sorry.

[Behshad]

It's disgusting that you deluded theists can joke and laugh about what your supposed God has orchestrated, or just couldn't care to do anything with. These kids are, when born, condemned into either be killed in guerrilla wars or die of TB or HIV, while you corpulent fucks sits around in churches praying for your wife's to blow you more and that your boss will give you a raise at work.

All the while, missionaries are walking around in Africa, preaching the gospel of God and to to stay away from condoms. That's not funny. It's sick and ugly. Leap of faith, I guess.

Hypocrite...You've got no moral high ground to be castigating anyone for anything. Unbelievable.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there'es murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created. Oh, that's not entirely correct; he helped Ginger find her man.

While scientists work for HIV cures, improved cancer treatment or through their work at LHC, one way or another, improves the quality of life. There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

[*Laura]

I'm too lazy to find the links, sorry.

Ahh bummer! I love reading stuff like that. Come on, you only have to move one finger on the mouse!

[Rip Rokken]

There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

This is foolish, and even though I'm pinning you down to a literalistic meaning that may not have been your exact intent, the statement needs to be looked at as it reads because of the broad judgment you make. Assuming you meant to use a common in place of that semicolon, you are making two statements that can be argued separately:

1) That you can't be reasonable and believe in God, and

2) That you especially can't be reasonable if you're a theist who interprets the Bible literally.

On #1, the verdict is out for many people as to whether there is a God or not. It can neither be proven nor disproven, just like how we haven't found the "missing link" that proves humans evolved from a lower species. In my opinion, it's arguably equally as reasonable to believe either given the evidence.

On #2, you're calling Bible-believing theists (hint: Christians) ignorant. People who put their faith into a religion that includes an afterlife strategy show a type of pro-activity, and pro-activeness, especially in planning for one's long-term survival, is a generally a sign of some measure of intelligence (in humans and animal species as well). The "ignorants" are the ones who live day to day without any endgame strategy, or at least, no thought or preparation toward long-term survival. Most people don't enjoy the thought of dying. Whether they are right or wrong, Christians make a choice based on hope and the information given to them, and backed by millions and millions of others around the world. If they end up believing wrong in the end, they are no less intelligent than any Wall Street investment mogul who gambles based on what they perceive to be very reliable information and ends up losing his entire fortune. The future can never be predicted beyond a shadow of a doubt, which is the reason we take chances. Basic Christian faith demands belief in one true God, and there isn't any hedging of bets or balancing of portfolios. If people have good reason to think this is the will of God, and they want to succeed, then they'll follow as instructed.

[conversationpc]

There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

This is foolish, and even though I'm pinning you down to a literalistic meaning that may not have been your exact intent, the statement needs to be looked at as it reads because of the broad judgment you make. Assuming you meant to use a common in place of that semicolon, you are making two statements that can be argued separately:

1) That you can't be reasonable and believe in God, and

2) That you especially can't be reasonable if you're a theist who interprets the Bible literally.

On #1, the verdict is out for many people as to whether there is a God or not. It can neither be proven nor disproven, just like how we haven't found the "missing link" that proves humans evolved from a lower species. In my opinion, it's arguably equally as reasonable to believe either given the evidence.

On #2, you're calling Bible-believing theists (hint: Christians) ignorant. People who put their faith into a religion that includes an afterlife strategy show a type of pro-activity, and pro-activeness, especially in planning for one's long-term survival, is a generally a sign of some measure of intelligence (in humans and animal species as well). The "ignorants" are the ones who live day to day without any endgame strategy, or at least, no thought or preparation toward long-term survival. Most people don't enjoy the thought of dying. Whether they are right or wrong, Christians make a choice based on hope and the information given to them, and backed by millions and millions of others around the world. If they end up believing wrong in the end, they are no less intelligent than any Wall Street investment mogul who gambles based on what they perceive to be very reliable information and ends up losing his entire fortune. The future can never be predicted beyond a shadow of a doubt, which is the reason we take chances. Basic Christian faith demands belief in one true God, and there isn't any hedging of bets or balancing of portfolios. If people have good reason to think this is the will of God, and they want to succeed, then they'll follow as instructed.

Once again, said much better and more appropriately than I would have said it. And, to add to that, the dummies are usually the ones consistently painting the other side as such.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe...

So because you don't chat with the Almighty, this makes it OK for you to take advantage of or even joke about doing it to drugged, helpless women?

[conversationpc]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I don't believe God sends innocent children to hell. No Christian that I know of believes that children who can't yet be accountable for their actions will go to hell.

[Saint John]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I don't believe God sends innocent children to hell. No Christian that I know of believes that children who can't yet be accountable for their actions will go to hell.

Then what's the point of the silly baptismal stuff?

[conversationpc]

So, how would you explain that to a child if a non christian friend died and your kid wanted to know if they went to heaven? I can't imagine telling the kid that Haji is gong to hell; is this when you need to tell a little white lie or how does it get handled?

I would tell the truth and say that I don't know.

If you honestly believe that there *is* a possibility of (your) God sending innocent humans, namely children, to burn in hell and/or not be eligible for Heaven, you should probably immediately denounce him and tell him to suck your crank. I would.

I don't believe God sends innocent children to hell. No Christian that I know of believes that children who can't yet be accountable for their actions will go to hell.

Then what's the point of the silly baptismal stuff?

No clue...No church I've ever been a part of has practiced infant baptism. Doesn't make sense to me that a child who can't even cognitively choose to follow any god could choose to be baptized. You'll have to ask a Catholic or a member of another church who believes in that crap.

[Rick]

It's disgusting that you deluded theists can joke and laugh about what your supposed God has orchestrated, or just couldn't care to do anything with. These kids are, when born, condemned into either be killed in guerrilla wars or die of TB or HIV, while you corpulent fucks sits around in churches praying for your wife's to blow you more and that your boss will give you a raise at work.

All the while, missionaries are walking around in Africa, preaching the gospel of God and to to stay away from condoms. That's not funny. It's sick and ugly. Leap of faith, I guess.

Hypocrite...You've got no moral high ground to be castigating anyone for anything. Unbelievable.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there's murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created. Oh, that's not entirely correct; he helped Ginger find her man.

While scientists work for HIV cures, improved cancer treatment or through their work at LHC, one way or another, improves the quality of life. There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

At least Christians pray for the people you speak of. What do you do? At least the missionaries are there trying to help, whether you think they do or not. They dedicate their lives to helping them. I can't think of a more unselfish act. Again, what do you do? Sounds to me like you go to college, work out, piss on women and practice atheism. Real meaningful and unselfish life there junior. When you do something to help the kids in Africa, I'll applaud you, until then, bashing those that do is, as Dave said, hypocritical. Especially when you use those same kids to further your argument.

[Behshad]

It's disgusting that you deluded theists can joke and laugh about what your supposed God has orchestrated, or just couldn't care to do anything with. These kids are, when born, condemned into either be killed in guerrilla wars or die of TB or HIV, while you corpulent fucks sits around in churches praying for your wife's to blow you more and that your boss will give you a raise at work.

All the while, missionaries are walking around in Africa, preaching the gospel of God and to to stay away from condoms. That's not funny. It's sick and ugly. Leap of faith, I guess.

Hypocrite...You've got no moral high ground to be castigating anyone for anything. Unbelievable.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there's murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created. Oh, that's not entirely correct; he helped Ginger find her man.

While scientists work for HIV cures, improved cancer treatment or through their work at LHC, one way or another, improves the quality of life. There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

At least Christians pray for the people you speak of. What do you do? At least the missionaries are there trying to help, whether you think they do or not. They dedicate their lives to helping them. I can't think of a more unselfish act. Again, what do you do? Sounds to me like you go to college, work out, piss on women and practice atheism. Real meaningful and unselfish life there junior. When you do something to help the kids in Africa, I'll applaud you, until then, bashing those that do is, as Dave said, hypocritical. Especially when you use those same kids to further your argument.

He does once in a while help out. They have this ritzy rich people telethon , where he can call in and for every pound of caviar, gooseliver or lobster tails he orders they donate a pound to hungry kids in Africa.

[Rick]

It's disgusting that you deluded theists can joke and laugh about what your supposed God has orchestrated, or just couldn't care to do anything with. These kids are, when born, condemned into either be killed in guerrilla wars or die of TB or HIV, while you corpulent fucks sits around in churches praying for your wife's to blow you more and that your boss will give you a raise at work.

All the while, missionaries are walking around in Africa, preaching the gospel of God and to to stay away from condoms. That's not funny. It's sick and ugly. Leap of faith, I guess.

Hypocrite...You've got no moral high ground to be castigating anyone for anything. Unbelievable.

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there's murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created. Oh, that's not entirely correct; he helped Ginger find her man.

While scientists work for HIV cures, improved cancer treatment or through their work at LHC, one way or another, improves the quality of life. There's absolutely no fucking way you can be a reasonable person, and believe in God, especially if you're a theist; interpreting the bible literally. Then you're deluded and ignorant. Simple as that.

At least Christians pray for the people you speak of. What do you do? At least the missionaries are there trying to help, whether you think they do or not. They dedicate their lives to helping them. I can't think of a more unselfish act. Again, what do you do? Sounds to me like you go to college, work out, piss on women and practice atheism. Real meaningful and unselfish life there junior. When you do something to help the kids in Africa, I'll applaud you, until then, bashing those that do is, as Dave said, hypocritical. Especially when you use those same kids to further your argument.

He does once in a while help out. They have this ritzy rich people telethon , where he can call in and for every pound of caviar, gooseliver or lobster tails he orders they donate a pound to hungry kids in Africa.

Oh, well my apologies Parfait, I didn't know you were such a philanthropist.

[Moon Beam]

Yes, I do, because I don't pretend to be talking to the creator of the universe, preaching his gospel and morals like he's a kind, loving guy, when in fact he's a hateful dictator, who's supposedly made a world where 60% of the world lives in poverty. Where there's murder and injustice all around. Yet you people love him, though ironically he hasn't done shit to improve the world that he created.

The evil in this world is done by our hands, not his.