A Valentine's Day song for SP!

[tammy]

I heard this song on the radio a few weeks ago and wow, I don't think I've heard it since 1975 when it came out on the radio...it just sounds so "Very Steve Perry" to me...the soul, the phrasing, lyrics...I wonder if it is on his playlist... I just finally bought it on iTunes...a sexy song but the background girl is overthetop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NhWV36Z ... re=related

[whirlwind]

I get the feeling that Mr. Perry's last chance at not fading off into the sunset is to open his .com website as a Valentine's Day gift to his fans. He has dangled that, and new music, like a carrot, for years now and something finally has to give, especially after his most recent Q&A. I really think that a lot of his fans have given up on him at long last.

[Deb]

I get the feeling that Mr. Perry's last chance at not fading off into the sunset is to open his .com website as a Valentine's Day gift to his fans. He has dangled that, and new music, like a carrot, for years now and something finally has to give, especially after his most recent Q&A. I really think that a lot of his fans have given up on him at long last.

Nah, have never given up, just seem to have been kept busy musically with my other 2 faves who seem to be working their asses off lately. Would gladly welcome any new music from SP if/when he decides to.....but I am still getting some great vocal earcandy in the mean time so life goes on.....

[G.I.Jim]

I get the feeling that Mr. Perry's last chance at not fading off into the sunset is to open his .com website as a Valentine's Day gift to his fans. He has dangled that, and new music, like a carrot, for years now and something finally has to give, especially after his most recent Q&A. I really think that a lot of his fans have given up on him at long last.

Hi!

[whirlwind]

I get the feeling that Mr. Perry's last chance at not fading off into the sunset is to open his .com website as a Valentine's Day gift to his fans. He has dangled that, and new music, like a carrot, for years now and something finally has to give, especially after his most recent Q&A. I really think that a lot of his fans have given up on him at long last.

Hi!

Hi yourself! What can I do for you? Anything! Just name it.

[bluejeangirl76]

I get the feeling that Mr. Perry's last chance at not fading off into the sunset is to open his .com website as a Valentine's Day gift to his fans.

I'd rather something gold.

[whirlwind]

I get the feeling that Mr. Perry's last chance at not fading off into the sunset is to open his .com website as a Valentine's Day gift to his fans.

I'd rather something gold.

Hell, he owes everybody money. Getting gold would be like getting new music from him.

Hey BJG! Do you by chance play internet checkers with real people from all over the world? Does anyone here play internet checkers?

[Saint John]

Website should be up and open soon, and maybe he'll tell us what his plans are for the demos. My guess is he'll piggy back off of Journey's release like he's been doing (more accurately, he and Sony/Columbia) for the last 10 or so years. If he doesn't do it then, he'll never release them.

[whirlwind]

Website should be up and open soon, and maybe he'll tell us what his plans are for the demos. My guess is he'll piggy back off of Journey's release like he's been doing (more accurately, he and Sony/Columbia) for the last 10 or so years. If he doesn't do it then, he'll never release them.

He'll never do it, Dan. He doesn't have the confidence and he waited too long now. A few years ago he kept needing reassurance from the friends that he would air his attempts with and even tho they told him that he was still hot, he couldn't do it. Not wanting to do it is one thing but not having the confidence to do it is something all together different.

[Saint John]

Website should be up and open soon, and maybe he'll tell us what his plans are for the demos. My guess is he'll piggy back off of Journey's release like he's been doing (more accurately, he and Sony/Columbia) for the last 10 or so years. If he doesn't do it then, he'll never release them.

He'll never do it, Dan. He doesn't have the confidence and he waited too long now. A few years ago he kept needing reassurence from the friends that he would air his attempts with and even tho they told him that he was still hot, he couldn't do it. Not wanting to do it is one thing but not having the confidence to do it is something all together different.

I'm gonna disclose some personal and professional advice for Uncle Steve. My opinion is worth about as much as maggot puke, so keep that in mind.

Steve Perry needs to think about coming back and singing for Journey, or simply stay retired. Journey's fan base, one that he helped build into a small army, is his safe haven. Fuck the critics, fuck the fear and fuck being downtuned 1 whole step or more. We won't care! I find it disheartening as a fan that he seems very much afraid to sing because of what the perception might be. Those critics never gave Journey any credit and the fans had faith and believed in the band, what they sang about and how they did it live.

I know the argument that "he is his own worst critic" is going to be the default response, and that's bullshit. Give your sack a good tug to make sure you still have balls, pop some Prozac, shake the Unipolar Depression and pick up a fucking mic. You fail 100% of the time you don't try, and that's what I see the last 15-17 years as ... utter failure. He has purported, on basically an annual basis, how hard this is, and how he thinks about it all the time and how this, that and the other thing are keeping him from singing. The only thing stopping Steve Perry is selfishness. He's too selfish to possibly flop, face the fact that his voice isn't what it used to be and to face critics. I get that, but some resolution is needed here. This guy is a fucking tortured soul and it's obvious in his interviews. Fuck, dude, fail and call it a day or go out with a bang, but quit torturing yourself and get some resolution and closure! A return to Journey is the only thing that I see bringing him the safe haven of faithful, longing fans and the resolution he needs. Do a song, a show or shows, a one-off or a series of FFUSS (Farewell From Uncle Steve Shows), and ride off into the sunset.

Sincerely,

Shit For Brains

[Don]

Website should be up and open soon, and maybe he'll tell us what his plans are for the demos. My guess is he'll piggy back off of Journey's release like he's been doing (more accurately, he and Sony/Columbia) for the last 10 or so years. If he doesn't do it then, he'll never release them.

He'll never do it, Dan. He doesn't have the confidence and he waited too long now. A few years ago he kept needing reassurence from the friends that he would air his attempts with and even tho they told him that he was still hot, he couldn't do it. Not wanting to do it is one thing but not having the confidence to do it is something all together different.

I'm gonna disclose some personal and professional advice for Uncle Steve. My opinion is worth about as much as maggot puke, so keep that in mind.

Steve Perry needs to think about coming back and singing for Journey, or simply stay retired. Journey's fan base, one that he helped build into a small army, is his safe haven. Fuck the critics, fuck the fear and fuck being downtuned 1 whole step or more. We won't care! I find it disheartening as a fan that he seems very much afraid to sing because of what the perception might be. Those critics never gave Journey any credit and the fans had faith and believed in the band, what they sang about and how they did it live.

I know the argument that "he is his own worst critic" is going to be the default response, and that's bullshit. Give your sack a good tug to make sure you still have balls, pop some Prozac, shake the Unipolar Depression and pick up a fucking mic. You fail 100% of the time you don't try, and that's what I see the last 15-17 years as ... utter failure. He has purported, on basically an annual basis, how hard this is, and how he thinks about it all the time and how this, that and the other thing are keeping him from singing. The only thing stopping Steve Perry is selfishness. He's too selfish to possibly flop, face the fact that his voice isn't what it used to be and to face critics. I get that, but some resolution is needed here. This guy is a fucking tortured soul and it's obvious in his interviews. Fuck, dude, fail and call it a day or go out with a bang, but quit torturing yourself and get some resolution and closure! A return to Journey is the only thing that I see bringing him the safe haven of faithful, longing fans and the resolution he needs. Do a song, a show or shows, a one-off or a series of FFUSS (Farewell From Uncle Steve Shows), and ride off into the sunset.

Sincerely,

Shit For Brains

Despite what Shirley says, I believe Neal would love for Perry to ask to come back in so Schon could say publicly "NO". I think Schon and Cain see no big advantage in this and rather they would worry about the backlash from their current plokker fanbase.
I think Neal has his little kingdom on FB and all the accolades he would get from his herd of third world denizens telling Perry to fuck off would be something he probably thinks he would enjoy.
Good business sense? Maybe not but then again, we are dealing with two guys (Schon and Cain) who continuously throw cash into solo works that don't sell for shit so money wouldn't appear to be that big a factor anyway.

[whirlwind]

"Well, first of all, thanks, Dan, for those kind words."-Steve Perry

[whirlwind]

I feel that you're right on, Dan. I would bet that the majority of his fans would rather he got together with Journey for new music, and no doubt a lot of his "50" songs" would fit the Journey mold, before any new album he might put out.His Journey hits are what are most memorable.

[Deb]

I'm gonna disclose some personal and professional advice for Uncle Steve. My opinion is worth about as much as maggot puke, so keep that in mind. :wink:

Always do.....but thanks for sharing it anyway.

Steve Perry needs to think about coming back and singing for Journey, or simply stay retired. Journey's fan base, one that he helped build into a small army, is his safe haven. Fuck the critics, fuck the fear and fuck being downtuned 1 whole step or more. We won't care! I find it disheartening as a fan that he seems very much afraid to sing because of what the perception might be. Those critics never gave Journey any credit and the fans had faith and believed in the band, what they sang about and how they did it live.

You know as well as I do, that yes, people will care even people you know here will go off on his voice not sounding the same. Hell, you yourself are very vocal about thinking he sounds shitty on TBF. Far from it, I like his raw, more raspy emotive tone on it. And the average fan out there probably is going to expect him to sound somewhat the same as he did on the escape/frontiers. I can understand the struggle with that kind of decision (mind you I don't think he struggles with it anymore, IMO he sounds pretty much done when it comes to re-joining Journey again).......personally I would much rather see/hear him come out with a solo cd than to join Journey again.

[Saint John]

You know as well as I do, that yes, people will care even people you know here will go off on his voice not sounding the same. Hell, you yourself are very vocal about thinking he sounds shitty on TBF. Far from it, I like his raw, more raspy emotive tone on it. And the average fan out there probably is going to expect him to sound somewhat the same as he did on the escape/frontiers. I can understand the struggle with that kind of decision (mind you I don't think he struggles with it anymore, IMO he sounds pretty much done when it comes to re-joining Journey again).......personally I would much rather see/hear him come out with a solo cd than to join Journey again.

I don't think the issue of being a step or more down applies to him. He is one of the original co-creators of those songs and the guy that actually sang (most of) them originally. If you think he'll get flak in Journey, he'll get crushed outside of Journey. That's where the critics will have a field day with him. Journey is his safe house. He can do a song, a show, shows or a small tour and to a fucking fan ... he will be revered. That's why Def Leppard fans don't care that Elliott sounds like shit, Stones fans don't care about Jagger's voice and on and on. Brian Johnson of AC/DC is one fumes and they just averaged 68,000 fans per show. there's loyalty in a fan base, but not much outside of it.

Personally, I think he should a one-off 15 song set with Journey and then think about releasing a solo album and/or touring solo (or calling it a day). One show, Uncle Steve. Closure and resolution. Think about it, little buddy.

[steveo777]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

[Michigan Girl]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

[Saint John]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

I was just waiting for your response. Good to have you back. I enjoy the competition.

[steveo777]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

Why, because I don't live in some rootie tootie fantasy world and I call things as I see them? Did you forget the lube?

....and, yes, Dan, the bitch is back.

[Michigan Girl]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

I was just waiting for your response. Good to have you back. I enjoy the competition.

Thank you!!
You're a little off your game today ...you must step it up!!

[Michigan Girl]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

Why, because I don't live in some rootie tootie fantasy world and I call things as I see them? Did you forget the lube?

....and, yes, Dan, the bitch is back.

lol ...
Just think of me as a greased pig, I'm lubed!!

[whirlwind]

I really don't feel that a solo album will do it for him at this stage of the game. To most people he is known for his Journey hits and that goes double for the new fans that he has picked up since the Greatest Hits came out. His solo music is all but forgotten except by his old faithful fans.
He and Journey could rule if they made another, lets say, "Journey's End" album. It will be the biggest let down in the history of Classic Rock if a band that had that sound, lets it die on the vine. With the insanity that is happening all over the world, this attempt at peace between bandmates that made magic music is childs play.
His voice is still there, I'm not in any doubt of that. Like it was in the 70's, I hope not? More mellow and more beautiful than ever I'm sure.

[TRAGChick]

Steve Perry is the reason WHY I fell in love with Journey.
He's the voice that grabbed me.....I'll listen to whatever he chooses to let us hear....

Hell, man....do you know HOW HARD IT IS to have a "distinguished vocal sound"?

Steve has TWO ERAs of sound: Pre and Post Escape.
That type of vocal-feat is damned near impossible.

I've said it before; I'll say it again.....LOWER REGISTER FOR ME. \~/

I don't expect glass to shatter; I don't want it to anymore.

[Saint John]

Steve Perry is the reason WHY I fell in love with Journey.
He's the voice that grabbed me.....I'll listen to whatever he chooses to let us hear....

Hell, man....do you know HOW HARD IT IS to have a "distinguished vocal sound"?

Steve has TWO ERAs of sound: Pre and Post Escape.
That type of vocal-feat is damned near impossible.

I've said it before; I'll say it again.....LOWER REGISTER FOR ME. \~/

I don't expect glass to shatter; I don't want it to anymore.

I would say that he had 3 eras of sound. Pre-Frontiers, Frontiers-ROR (my favorite) and post-ROR (degradation to the point of the inability to sing many songs).

[StevePerryHair]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

I helped you out a little with him while you were gone.

[steveo777]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

I helped you out a little with him while you were gone.

I'm glad she's back. When you sat on my head I haven't been able to move all this time.

[Michigan Girl]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

I helped you out a little with him while you were gone.

By sitting on his head?!?!
Unique approach, Lynny, but I think he enjoys that stuff ...

[StevePerryHair]

Should he even come out to sing, even once, the critics will just say he should have stayed retired, once they hear him, is the gut instinct I have. However, I think we run about zero risk of him singing, so it's a moot point. I'm sure, even Steve understands this risk, hence the silence. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be different than that, but that ugly thing called reality does rear it's ugly head.

You're an ass

I helped you out a little with him while you were gone.

By sitting on his head?!?!
Unique approach, Lynny, but I think he enjoys that stuff ...

Yeah, maybe in his sick fantasies I just know that he missed you and I was a good reminder that he shouldn't relax too much, cause you'd be back

[Deb]

Steve Perry is the reason WHY I fell in love with Journey.
He's the voice that grabbed me.....I'll listen to whatever he chooses to let us hear....

Hell, man....do you know HOW HARD IT IS to have a "distinguished vocal sound"?

Steve has TWO ERAs of sound: Pre and Post Escape.
That type of vocal-feat is damned near impossible.

I've said it before; I'll say it again.....LOWER REGISTER FOR ME. \~/

I don't expect glass to shatter; I don't want it to anymore.

I would say that he had 3 eras of sound. Pre-Frontiers, Frontiers-ROR (my favorite) and post-ROR (degradation to the point of the inability to sing many songs).

Totally disagree. Unless you are basing that totally on range, if you meant degradation in that he couldn't hit his late 70s glass shattering highs, maybe. But vocally there is not an ounce of degradation in his delivery, phrasing, emotive ability, etc. I'll take this vocal tone over some of the early highs anyday. I absolutely love his more smokey rasp he eventually acquired to his tone. '94 You Better Wait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5HavjNLuo and '97 If He Should Break Your Heart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nED-F6PFA98

I can count on one hand the amount of singers that have actually really made me FEEL a song, and he tops that list. His range had very very little to do with what I like about his voice.

[*Laura]