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by **Rhiannon** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:38 am

FamilyMan wrote:
lights1961 wrote:since this is a concept CD... as explained before from Neal... Destination would be a great title....

why not "Conception"?

It may be more like "Inception"...

by **bluejeangirl76** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:03 am

Rhiannon wrote:
FamilyMan wrote:
lights1961 wrote:since this is a concept CD... as explained before from Neal... Destination would be a great title....

why not "Conception"?

It may be more like "Inception"...

by **Don** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:17 am

I bet it's a re-tread title like Revelation was. I think there were 16 other albums that had already used that same name.

by **Andrew** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:31 am

It's a good title I think.

by **Andrew** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:31 am

One word.

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:35 am

Andrew wrote:One word.

Resignation?

by **Don** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:56 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Andrew wrote:One word.

Resignation?

Think Inside the box.

by **Saint John** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:19 am

Don wrote:Think Inside the box.

Poontang?

(No offense, Cyndy. :wink:

)

by **Duncan** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:22 am

Ejaculation?

by **Don** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:24 am

Saint John wrote:
Don wrote:Think Inside the box.

Poontang? (No offense, Cyndy. )

Well, it is the right color. :lol:

by **Saint John** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:32 am

A little OT, but ...

Neal is sitting at home printing money. The dude is absolutely fucking loaded right now. Revelation put a few million in his pocket and he now owns everything Journey does from front to back. He owns Nomota, which gets paid by Walmart to manufacture the Journey albums. He produces it under the Neal Schon Production company and makes more money (more like not having to pay someone else). Nocturne goes out and does all of Journey's gigs and that of most other major artists. Then he makes about 15k per show when he's on the road. He also gets a whopping amount of money from each copy of the new album sold, royalties from the ever-selling GH and probably a little spare change from the Bad English days.

He's still sober and he's working with Herbie again. I would bet anything Herbie is the one that came up with the Neal Schon Productions idea. Herbie is stepping back in and is gonna show Neal how to make Journey that "brand name" that they were so close to achieving when Toastus Liquidatious stepped in and intentionally started tearing down what was already built. Herbie and Neal are gonna finish what they started 38 years ago. They're gonna have this machine firing on all cylinders really soon. And it'll be the first time worldwide.

by **Don** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:39 am

Saint John wrote:A little OT, but ...

Neal is sitting at home printing money. The dude is absolutely fucking loaded right now. Revelation put a few million in his pocket and he now owns everything Journey does from front to back. He owns Nomota, which gets paid by Walmart to manufacture the Journey albums. He produces it under the Neal Schon Production company and makes more money (more like not having to pay someone else). Nocturne goes out and does all of Journey's gigs and that of most other major artists. Then he makes about 15k per show when he's on the road. He also gets a whopping amount of money from each copy of the new album sold, royalties from the ever-selling GH and probably a little spare change from the Bad English days.

He's still sober and he's working with Herbie again. I would bet anything Herbie is the one that came up with the Neal Schon Productions idea. Herbie is stepping back in and is gonna show Neal how to make Journey that "brand name" that they were so close to achieving when Toastus Liquidatious stepped in and intentionally started tearing down what wa already built. Herbie and Neal are gonna finish what they started 38 years ago. They're gonna have this machine firing on all cylinders really soon. And it'll be the first time worldwide.

Neal is going to kick you out of his fan club, dude.

This is his band. HIS BAND!

by **Saint John** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:45 am

Don wrote:
Saint John wrote:A little OT, but ...

Neal is sitting at home printing money. The dude is absolutely fucking loaded right now. Revelation put a few million in his pocket and he now owns everything Journey does from front to back. He owns Nomota, which gets paid by Walmart to manufacture the Journey albums. He produces it under the Neal Schon Production company and makes more money (more like not having to pay someone else). Nocturne goes out and does all of Journey's gigs and that of most other major artists. Then he makes about 15k per show when he's on the road. He also gets a whopping amount of money from each copy of the new album sold, royalties from the ever-selling GH and probably a little spare change from the Bad English days.

He's still sober and he's working with Herbie again. I would bet anything Herbie is the one that came up with the Neal Schon Productions idea. Herbie is stepping back in and is gonna show Neal how to make Journey that "brand name" that they were so close to achieving when Toastus Liquidatious stepped in and intentionally started tearing down what was already built. Herbie and Neal are gonna finish what they started 38 years ago. They're gonna have this machine firing on all cylinders really soon. And it'll be the first time worldwide.

Neal is going to kick you out of his fan club, dude.

This is his band. HIS BAND!

It started out as Neal and Herbie's and it appears that it might end that way. Full circle. I like it.

by **Andrew** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:17 pm

Saint John wrote:
It started out as Neal and Herbie's and it appears that it might end that way. Full circle. I like it.

Herbie is NOT involved with Journey in any way.

by **Saint John** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:42 pm

Andrew wrote:
Saint John wrote:
It started out as Neal and Herbie's and it appears that it might end that way. Full circle. I like it.

Herbie is NOT involved with Journey in any way.

Behind the scenes. Giving Neal advice.

by **Andrew** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:57 pm

Saint John wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Saint John wrote:
It started out as Neal and Herbie's and it appears that it might end that way. Full circle. I like it.

Herbie is NOT involved with Journey in any way.

Behind the scenes. Giving Neal advice.

Sure. But that's a little different.

by **S2M** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:14 pm

Andrew wrote:You should all have your new Journey album in your hands on or around June 1.

There ya go! Exclusive

Which means I'll have it around May 1st.... :lol:

by **S2M** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:18 pm

Andrew wrote:Release will be international simultaneous.
Walmart might handle USA. Deals being done now.

The ONLY way NOT to lose money.....good job!

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:20 pm

Saint John wrote:Herbie and Neal are gonna finish what they started 38 years ago. They're gonna have this machine firing on all cylinders really soon.

I can't wait til this new cd comes out and sells somewhere between Red 13 and Generations. :lol:

The only thing Niel's band has been doing the past 15 years is basically the equivalent of peddling infomercial crap. Need some DeDe7, some Oxiclean? Now dude is peddling Shamwow's and tapped into another market.

Geeze Dan, I remember when we both felt the same way about Neil's band when they had Soto at the lead. Now they push little Arnel out front, strap together 14 cd's together for $10 and all the sudden they're world beaters again? I don't get it.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:05 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
Saint John wrote:Herbie and Neal are gonna finish what they started 38 years ago. They're gonna have this machine firing on all cylinders really soon.

I can't wait til this new cd comes out and sells somewhere between Red 13 and Generations.

Agreed. That ship has long since sailed. The brief window of opportunity to salvage their artistic cred and rebuild their brand was after 86, by bringing back Rolie and getting Chalfant. Instead, it's been one misguided decision after another. Even after JSS was sent packing and Arnel was hired, the promotional blitz was all about Perry and his voice. How can the current lineup ever hope to leave a lasting legacy when they run from their Santana roots and parade themselves as little more than a Perry soundalike group? The band has become the worst sort of parody. That said, I have no doubt the new album will be great.

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:29 pm

This band really needs to put out something great and win some accolades, perhaps a Grammy, if nothing more than just to shut everyone the fuck up. :lol:

by **Don** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:14 pm

I predict it will debut at #1 on Billboard's album chart. I will also predict that it won't outsell Arrival. With #1 albums only selling 47,000, This album only needs to debut with half of Revelatin's first week numbers to have a great shot. However it would need to maintain those numbers for at least 4 months to beat Arrival's total sales which it will be hard pressed to do with no additional pack in discs.

So I see a few accolades but if it doesn't sell well, the #1 ranking will be just a footnote, especially if Journey's Greatest Hits overtakes it on the album chart after a month or so.

by **S2M** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:31 pm

Seriously, this album will be lucky to sell 75,000 in the U.S.

Plokker numbers will pad the totals, of course.

by **Don** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:39 pm

S2M wrote:Seriously, this album will be lucky to sell 75,000 in the U.S.

Plokker numbers will pad the totals, of course.

If there aren't any major releases that week, 75k guarantees it to be #1. Of course it will probably be labeled as one of the worse number albums ever by Rolling Stone but what else is new? :lol:

Will it be considered a succesful album if it only sells 200,000 copies? Eh, that will be up for debate I guess. Lest we forget, the Manila DVD debuted at #1 also but after more than a year still no platinum (or gold) like Journey's other DVD releases.

A little surprised they're hitting South America before the album is released. I guess Sony can be happy about that, as their catalog can benefit from it if nothing else.

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:05 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
Saint John wrote:Herbie and Neal are gonna finish what they started 38 years ago. They're gonna have this machine firing on all cylinders really soon.

I can't wait til this new cd comes out and sells somewhere between Red 13 and Generations.

The only thing Niel's band has been doing the past 15 years is basically the equivalent of peddling infomercial crap. Need some DeDe7, some Oxiclean? Now dude is peddling Shamwow's and tapped into another market.

Geeze Dan, I remember when we both felt the same way about Neil's band when they had Soto at the lead. Now they push little Arnel out front, strap together 14 cd's together for $10 and all the sudden they're world beaters again? I don't get it.

It's NEAL dude!!! :roll:

And what's wrong with Shamwow? :lol:

by **Saint John** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:18 am

As of right now, the band id off from April 16th to June 4th. I'm hoping they use this time to hit the promotional circuit in the U.S. Perhaps the long awaited late night talk show and/or another stint on Ellen or Oprah. Is Oprah even still on duing the day?

As for sales predictions, that's a tough one. Hard to say not knowing price, promotion and/or package. As a stand alone CD, priced around $7, I would say that sales in the U.S. would ultimately end up in the 300-400k range. With good promotion, a bonus CD and an attractive price, I could ultimately see them selling 400-700k. Regardless, this will almost certainly be another million selling unit worldwide, just like Revelation. They're really doing a lot of traveling this year. They already have 15 countries on their schedule, and that's not even counting the Asian leg. Seems like they're really focused on being that "world band" that Jonanthan mentioned. I like it.

Website · by **steveo777** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:05 am

Saint John wrote:As of right now, the band is off from April 16th to June 4th. I'm hoping they use this time to hit the promotional circuit in the U.S. Perhaps the long awaited late night talk show and/or another stint on Ellen or Oprah. Is Oprah even still on duing the day?

As for sales predictions, that's a tough one. Hard to say not knowing price, promotion and/or package. As a stand alone CD, priced around $7, I would say that sales in the U.S. would ultimately end up in the 300-400k range. With good promotion, a bonus CD and an attractive price, I could ultimately see them selling 400-700k. Regardless, this will almost certainly be another million selling unit worldwide, just like Revelation. They're really doing a lot of traveling this year. They already have 15 countries on their schedule, and that's not even counting the Asian leg. Seems like they're really focused on being that "world band" that Jonanthan mentioned. I like it.

They do this so Arnel can go home and work his other night job. :wink:

by **Saint John** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:11 am

Per Arnel, The U.S. leg of the tour starts the second or third week of July.

by **whirlwind** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:14 am

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