Crazy ass mormons!

[Behshad]

By the way, how'd he get busted? Girlfriend pregnant? Video? Peeping faculty?

Guilty conscience. He confessed.

Maybe (like a real man ) he hates basketball and loves pussy ?

[Hollywood]

Any religion which claims to have deep-seeded core values, but was founded by a fanatical bigoted polygamist racist, is unto itself its own perpetual joke.

Smith died in a shootout, but they still paint him a "martyr."

In a shootout???? He was being held in a jail cell with his brother and unarmed when a mob stormed the jail overran the guards and shot him and his brother in a jail cell. If this isn't the definition of a martyr than what is. He died in defense of his beliefs, whether you or anybody else believed in them.

[verslibre]

Any religion which claims to have deep-seeded core values, but was founded by a fanatical bigoted polygamist racist, is unto itself its own perpetual joke.

Smith died in a shootout, but they still paint him a "martyr."

In a shootout???? He was being held in a jail cell with his brother and unarmed when a mob stormed the jail overran the guards and shot him and his brother in a jail cell. If this isn't the definition of a martyr than what is. He died in defense of his beliefs, whether you or anybody else believed in them.

They didn't shoot him in the jail cell. Somebody brought him a small pistol with which to arm himself before the (anti-Mormon) crowd got there. Then he fell from the window of the upper floor trying to escape.

So, no. Not exactly much of a "shootout."

[Michigan Girl]

Any religion which claims to have deep-seeded core values, but was founded by a fanatical bigoted polygamist racist, is unto itself its own perpetual joke.

Smith died in a shootout, but they still paint him a "martyr."

In a shootout???? He was being held in a jail cell with his brother and unarmed when a mob stormed the jail overran the guards and shot him and his brother in a jail cell. If this isn't the definition of a martyr than what is. He died in defense of his beliefs, whether you or anybody else believed in them.

I'm reading he had a gun and fought back, not saying it was right or wrong, but you are wrong!

[brywool]

Can't have premarital sex, but multiple wives are okay?
Might be time to reorganize the priority list...

[Behshad]

Can't have premarital sex, but multiple wives are okay?
Might be time to reorganize the priority list...

Basically they say if you gonna cheat on your wife , marry the other woman first

[Saint John]

Any religion which claims to have deep-seeded core values, but was founded by a fanatical bigoted polygamist racist, is unto itself its own perpetual joke.

Smith died in a shootout, but they still paint him a "martyr."

In a shootout???? He was being held in a jail cell with his brother and unarmed when a mob stormed the jail overran the guards and shot him and his brother in a jail cell. If this isn't the definition of a martyr than what is. He died in defense of his beliefs, whether you or anybody else believed in them.

They didn't shoot him in the jail cell. Somebody brought him a small pistol with which to arm himself before the (anti-Mormon) crowd got there. Then he fell from the window of the upper floor trying to escape.

So, no. Not exactly much of a "shootout."

In the end, virtually every one of these religious leaders is a shallow, lying, manipulative pussy. Sounds like this doucher was no different. I read up on him a bit and there's little doubt that he was a scam artist. Can't blame him, though. To make a scam work, you simply need idiots to believe in something and there seems to never be a shortage when it comes to religion.

[Clasicrockldy]

Can't have premarital sex, but multiple wives are okay?
Might be time to reorganize the priority list...

Mormon's did practice polygamy in the early days. Then, in the late 1890's, in order to have Utah admitted into statehood, one of the conditions of achieving statehood was to ban the practice of polygamy. The church president agreed to it. And LDS still ban it to this day. If anyone is caught having a polygamist marriage, they are ex-communicated from the church. Now the only polygamists you hear of are the ones who follow the old old ways (Fundamentalist LDS), or those who are not Mormon, but Christians who believe in polygamy.

[Enigma869]

I just want to know why so many Mormons seemingly have more children than I could ever keep track of! I always found that more than one wife and two kids would be more than I could ever handle or take care of adequately.

[Angel]

I just want to know why so many Mormons seemingly have more children than I could ever keep track of! I always found that more than one wife and two kids would be more than I could ever handle or take care of adequately.

Plenty of Mormons only have one or two kids, and lots of non-Mormons have eight, nine or twenty kids. And NO Mormons have more than one wife (well, none that are truly practicing Mormonism.)

[Clasicrockldy]

I just want to know why so many Mormons seemingly have more children than I could ever keep track of! I always found that more than one wife and two kids would be more than I could ever handle or take care of adequately.

I believe that it is a personal choice among the parents on how many kids they want to have in their family. If they have the means and emotional strength to support a large family, I see no problem with families that have lots of children. And it isn't just Mormons who have big families.

[Enigma869]

I believe that it is a personal choice among the parents on how many kids they want to have in their family. If they have the means and emotional strength to support a large family, I see no problem with families that have lots of children. And it isn't just Mormons who have big families.

For the record, I never suggested it was "just Mormons". What I did suggest is the Mormons I've encountered in my life have unusually large families (Much larger than any other families I've encountered), so I thought perhaps there was some "religious" reason why that religion seems to have larger families. I suspect if statistics were kept relating to religion and family size that it's not just my imagination that I've encountered this on more than one occasion. Incidentally, I don't disagree with your point at all that if a family can support all those children (Although I'm not sure who really can), then more power to them.

[Clasicrockldy]

I believe that it is a personal choice among the parents on how many kids they want to have in their family. If they have the means and emotional strength to support a large family, I see no problem with families that have lots of children. And it isn't just Mormons who have big families.

For the record, I never suggested it was "just Mormons". What I did suggest is the Mormons I've encountered in my life have unusually large families (Much larger than any other families I've encountered), so I thought perhaps there was some "religious" reason why that religion seems to have larger families. I suspect if statistics were kept relating to religion and family size that it's not just my imagination that I've encountered this on more than one occasion. Incidentally, I don't disagree with your point at all that if a family can support all those children (Although I'm not sure who really can), then more power to them.

I see what you mean, John. Sorry I misread it. I, myself, am amazed how large the Dugger family is, and how one woman can do what she does by homeschooling them, etc. The first Mormon family I ever encountered were my next door neighbours I had when growing up. They had 4 kids, 3 boys and a girl. My other next door neighbours were a family from Guam. I think they had 6 kids! Now that was a large family to me! That family had mostly girls, so I wondered how things got done when you had that many girls in one home and maybe 2 bathrooms in the whole house!

[Triple S]

see what you mean, John. Sorry I misread it. I, myself, am amazed how large the Dugger family is, and how one woman can do what she does by homeschooling them, etc. The first Mormon family I ever encountered were my next door neighbours I had when growing up. They had 4 kids, 3 boys and a girl. My other next door neighbours were a family from Guam. I think they had 6 kids! Now that was a large family to me! That family had mostly girls, so I wondered how things got done when you had that many girls in one home and maybe 2 bathrooms in the whole house!

I grew up in a family of 7 girls and 2 boys, and for the longest time we only had 1 bathroom! I remember we had a schedule in the morning - we each had 15 minutes. (and no, we are not Mormon or Catholic - not even close ) My Mom never worked outside the home until my Dad got sick - and somehow we managed. We ate well, had fairly nice clothes (although being the youngest I wore a lot of hand-me-downs - that might explain why as an adult I'm a clotheshorse ). Didn't go on vacations but that was OK - we kept busy and were happy. In those 'olden' days I guess we just didn't need (or want) a lot of 'stuff' like kids do now.

[StevePerryHair]

It's strange to me how people criticize family size. I think if you can care for your family, you want a big family, and you have the means, more power to you. I have 3 kids, which to me isn't a huge family at all. But I actually was ASKED if my 3rd one was "planned" by a co-worker way back when I was pregnant with my daughter.... it amazes me how today, people think anything over 2 is crazy!

[Saint John]

It's strange to me how people criticize family size. I think if you can care for your family, you want a big family, and you have the means, more power to you. I have 3 kids, which to me isn't a huge family at all. But I actually was ASKED if my 3rd one was "planned" by a co-worker way back when I was pregnant with my daughter.... it amazes me how today, people think anything over 2 is crazy!

I completely agree, Lynn. The Duggars have 20 kids and they're all seemingly well mannered, educated, the older ones are on the right path to success and they seem like wonderful people. They should be commended as people, as a family, as citizens and as humans. They seem to embody what a family should be and how self-suffiency, education and family teamwork should work ... just on a much larger level! Then you have people that can't take proper care of 1 or 2 kids. They should watch and learn from the Duggars.

[Ehwmatt]

By the way, how'd he get busted? Girlfriend pregnant? Video? Peeping faculty?

Guilty conscience. He confessed.

Wow! That is impressive in itself. Don't see that everyday.

There is absolutely nothing impressive about an adult man's goofy religion making him feel guilty enough to "confess" to having consensual sex with another consenting adult, unless you think it was equally impressive the way the Puritans' religion helped them weed out all them pesky witches back in the day.

[kgdjpubs]

By the way, how'd he get busted? Girlfriend pregnant? Video? Peeping faculty?

Guilty conscience. He confessed.

Wow! That is impressive in itself. Don't see that everyday.

There is absolutely nothing impressive about an adult man's goofy religion making him feel guilty enough to "confess" to having consensual sex with another consenting adult, unless you think it was equally impressive the way the Puritans' religion helped them weed out all them pesky witches back in the day.

considering he knew he would be probably be thrown off the basketball team if he confessed, and still felt that he needed to tell the truth, I'm impressed. A lot of people wouldn't do that. Don't judge those that believe different than you do. I'm sure there are many religions and cultures around the world that think we do some pretty strange things also.

[Melissa]

It's strange to me how people criticize family size. I think if you can care for your family, you want a big family, and you have the means, more power to you. I have 3 kids, which to me isn't a huge family at all. But I actually was ASKED if my 3rd one was "planned" by a co-worker way back when I was pregnant with my daughter.... it amazes me how today, people think anything over 2 is crazy!

Exactly, as long as they are taking care of their kids and the kids are growing and developing as they should, and these parents can do it all on their own like that, great for them. They're pretty strong people. I deal with drama-mamas at work all the time who can't handle ONE kid getting a stuffy nose at 2 a.m. People who can raise that many kids and make it look so easy amaze me.

[Saint John]

There is absolutely nothing impressive about an adult man's goofy religion making him feel guilty enough to "confess" to having consensual sex with another consenting adult, unless you think it was equally impressive the way the Puritans' religion helped them weed out all them pesky witches back in the day.

I disagree. I think it's pretty amazing that a black guy confessed to anything.

[Ehwmatt]

There is absolutely nothing impressive about an adult man's goofy religion making him feel guilty enough to "confess" to having consensual sex with another consenting adult, unless you think it was equally impressive the way the Puritans' religion helped them weed out all them pesky witches back in the day.

I disagree. I think it's pretty amazing that a black guy confessed to anything.

Touche sir

[Saint John]

Well, look what a little research uncovered. This Joseph Smith scam artist scape-goated everything by saying that the angel "Moroni" came to him in visions. He knew almost immediately that his followers were "Morons" all the way back then and the rest of you have been proving him right for almost 200 years. Nice work.